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Template:Torku Şekerspor riders

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Team is defunct, so the template is no longer required. Craig (talk)  22:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Torku Şekerspor riders
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:56, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:22, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Memorial Tournament honorees

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 June 19. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:04, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Memorial_Tournament_honorees
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Miscellaneous Sports Templates 2

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Just like the first set, unused, red linked, a lot of them are unfilled with any information and are transcluded on a respective page on the same topic. The first three just redirect to the standings sections to the mainspace article. The ones titled for 2020 are now useless because the events were cancelled due to the pandemic. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2020-21 OHL standings
 * 2019-20 OHL playoffs
 * 2019-20 OHL standings
 * 2020 AUS football standings
 * 2020 African Nations Championship Group A matches
 * 2020 Atlantic 10 Conference women's soccer standings
 * 2020 Belarusian Second League Overall table
 * 2020 Big West Conference men's soccer standings
 * 2020 CFL East Division standings
 * 2020 CFL West Division standings
 * 2020 CWUAA football standings
 * 2020 China League One table
 * 2019 Myanmar National League table 2
 * 2019 NCAA Division I & II men's volleyball Independent standings
 * 2019–20 SHL Labelled Map
 * 2018 Summit League Women's Volleyball Standings
 * 2018 World U23 Wrestling Championships
 * 2018–19 Atlantic Hockey standings (men)
 * 2018–19 Football Superleague of Kosovo table
 * 2018–19 SHL Labelled Map
 * 2018–19 Scottish League One table
 * 2018–19 Turkish Women Basketball League Standings
 * 2019/20 Richmond dual premiership players
 * 2018 Kazakhstan Premier League managers
 * 2017 SEC volleyball standings
 * 2021 IFL standings
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 * Delete all per nom. GiantSnowman 18:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: mass noms like these are impossible to evaluate and discuss properly. At the very least if the OP wants to group them, then the one deletion rationale should apply to every one in the group. E.g., Template:2018–19 Scottish League One table looks used and the season completed, but the sheer amount of noms in this group makes it difficult to discuss. Seany91 (talk) 18:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2018–19 Scottish League One table isn't transcluded in mainspace. I'm pretty sure all of these are coming from Database reports/Unused templates. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 19:12, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm getting them from the unused templates database. The issue with these sports templates is that there are way too many. It's safe to assume they won't be used anywhere on Wikipedia. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep per discussions for the first set of mass noms. Re-do individually if necessary. Seany91 (talk) 07:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep for exactly the same reasons as the other "Miscellaneous Sports Templates" thread. You can't just bundle loads of random templates and expect users to know if all of them will be used in future or not. Joseph<b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)


 * @WikiCleanerMan, I understand that nominating each one seems pointless, but from experience here, people are mostly going to vote keep without taking the time to check. Better to split into individual nominations (or a group of the same type, like the 3 first ones). Gonnym (talk) 10:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Gonnym, I'll do that later today for Miscellaneous 1 and 2. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:37, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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Template:2018 European Athletics U18 Championships
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:36, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Unused template with no valid article links. No anticipation that article series is to be created in the near future. SFB 21:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2018 European Athletics U18 Championships
 * Delete per my original nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:18, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence that any of the link articles will be created ever. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:19, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC) All filled with redlinks and unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:27, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships Men's singles WH1 Group B standings
 * 2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships Men's singles WH1 Group C standings
 * 2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships Men's singles WH1 Group D standings
 * 2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships Men's singles WH1 Group E standings
 * 2019 BWF Para-Badminton World Championships Men's singles WH1 Group F standings
 * Delete they exist as tables in one article, and templates are for tables that will be re-used many times, which these will not. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk)
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Template:Delink/phase 1 a
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:26, 13 June 2021 (UTC) These aren't used anymore, probably not used since 2014 when the template switched to a module. Gonnym (talk) 15:34, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delink/phase 1 a
 * Delink/phase 2
 * Delink/phase 2 a
 * Delink/phase 3


 * Delete per nomination. User:GKFXtalk 15:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete: no current or future use. Terasail [✉️] 19:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Nuremberg S-Bahn
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 June 13. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Nuremberg_S-Bahn
 * Nuremberg_public_transport
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Nuremberg S-Bahn/R-Bahn templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:05, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * VGN color
 * VGN lines
 * VGN stations


 * S-line/VGN left/R1
 * S-line/VGN left/R11
 * S-line/VGN left/R12
 * S-line/VGN left/R15
 * S-line/VGN left/R2
 * S-line/VGN left/R22
 * S-line/VGN left/R24
 * S-line/VGN left/R25
 * S-line/VGN left/R26
 * S-line/VGN left/R34
 * S-line/VGN left/R35
 * S-line/VGN left/R4
 * S-line/VGN left/R5
 * S-line/VGN left/R6
 * S-line/VGN left/R61
 * S-line/VGN left/R7
 * S-line/VGN left/R71
 * S-line/VGN left/R81
 * S-line/VGN left/R9
 * S-line/VGN left/S1
 * S-line/VGN left/S2
 * S-line/VGN left/S3
 * S-line/VGN left/S4
 * S-line/VGN left/S5
 * S-line/VGN right/R1
 * S-line/VGN right/R11
 * S-line/VGN right/R12
 * S-line/VGN right/R15
 * S-line/VGN right/R2
 * S-line/VGN right/R21
 * S-line/VGN right/R22
 * S-line/VGN right/R24
 * S-line/VGN right/R25
 * S-line/VGN right/R26
 * S-line/VGN right/R3
 * S-line/VGN right/R31
 * S-line/VGN right/R34
 * S-line/VGN right/R35
 * S-line/VGN right/R4
 * S-line/VGN right/R5
 * S-line/VGN right/R61
 * S-line/VGN right/R7
 * S-line/VGN right/R71
 * S-line/VGN right/R81
 * S-line/VGN right/R9
 * S-line/VGN right/S1
 * S-line/VGN right/S2
 * S-line/VGN right/S3
 * S-line/VGN right/S4
 * S-line/VGN right/S5

templates for the Nuremberg S-Bahn and various regional services. Superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Nuremberg S-Bahn. All transclusions replaced. There are 50 dependent s-line data modules that should also be deleted. Mackensen (talk) 12:22, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Support, per nom. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 15:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Str mid
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Slow template which is redundant to /str sub/. (Slow as in it has an expansion depth of about 15 for some reason and takes 3 times longer than in a quick test.) Similar argument to TfD May 29 § Str crop. NB the subtemplate str mid/core has usage independent of the main template. User:GKFXtalk 10:03, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Str mid


 * Delete. Not needed given the module options. -DePiep (talk) 10:07, 6 June 2021 (UTC) (creator, 2013)
 * Comment will you be moving str mid/core to take over str mid after deletion? It shouldn't remain at a subpage location if there is no parent template. It is also wholly lacking in documentation. -- 67.70.27.180 (talk) 03:55, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * From the single usage I have seen it’s not something we would plausibly want to keep, as it took a huge number of parameters just to calculate a substring. I was just noting that it will need checking separately before it actually gets deleted. User:GKFXtalk 06:15, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * All uses might be from Template:Cite Mullié and Template:JCW-CRAP-rank, which don't use the /core template directly. There doesn't seem to be any direct use of it independent of the main template. Gonnym (talk) 10:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Found it: Special:Diff/1027387906. As you can see it isn't something we would keep separately, I suspect the main template was substed for some reason. User:GKFXtalk 16:53, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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Miscellaneous Sports Templates
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC) First set of many random sports templates that are unused, unlinked, filled with either bold and/or red links with no clear navigational or informational purpose. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2006 AFC U-17 Championship qualification Group K table
 * 2007-08 National Division Three North Table
 * 2007-08 Northern Division North 2 East Table
 * 2008-09 National Division Three South Table
 * 2008-09 Guinness Premiership Table
 * 2009 USL Second Division Standings
 * 2012-2013 ENC Div1B Games
 * 2012 Lone Star Conference Women's Volleyball standings
 * 2012–13 CHA standings (women)
 * 2013 Bikini Basketball Association standings
 * 2014 Bikini Basketball Association standings
 * 2013–14 North One East Table
 * 2014 Asian Games football convenience template navbox
 * 2016 PLA playoffs
 * 2016 WFA Colonial Division standings
 * 2016 Olympic Table Tennis Schedule
 * 2021–22 TFF First League table
 * 2023 Rugby World Cup pool stage key
 * 2021 Chinese Super League table
 * 2021 ACC men's spring soccer standings
 * 2020–21 Israeli Premier League regular season table
 * 2020–21 Hero Indian Super League Points table
 * 2020 nine-pin bowling Single's World Championships events
 * 2020 Thailand Women's Quadrangular Series
 * 2020 Thai League 3 Upper Region
 * 2020 Tahiti Championship Table
 * 2020 Sun Belt men's spring soccer standings
 * 2020 RSEQ football standings
 * 2020 OUA football standings
 * 2020 Myanmar National League table
 * 2020 Major League Soccer Western Conference table with PPG


 * Oppose deletion of 2021 ACC men's spring soccer standings and 2020 Sun Belt men's spring soccer standings. Both of these templates are part of a standard set of standings templates for NCAA Division I men's soccer; see the subcats of Category:American college soccer standings templates. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete all per nom. GiantSnowman 18:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: mass noms like these are not helpful and impossible to evaluate. I doubt the OP nor GS above me went through every single one and also checked where they are linked and used. The MLS table one, for example, looks populated with info correctly. Seany91 (talk) 18:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep this is a collection of templates from multiple sports that have no connections with each other, and so it is inappropriate to nominate them all together. Renominate them separately or in groups by same/similar sports competitions. But we can't make a blanket assumption for 25+ completely different templates. I support deleting 2020 Thailand Women's Quadrangular Series (as it never happened, this was the TfD nomination I saw)- but have no knowledge on most of the rest of the templates, so couldn't give a fair opinion on them. Which is why we shouldn't be bulking together random sets of templates into 1 TfD. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 21:08, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, these templates are incorrectly tagged, as the TfD discussion on many of these templates points to a completely different discussion e.g. Template:2008-09 Guinness Premiership Table, Template:2006 AFC U-17 Championship qualification Group K table, which both link to a discussion about trains in Nuremberg, Germany. Please tag these templates correctly, and be more careful in future. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 21:11, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Fixed. And for your argument for deleting just one should also apply to all of them as they are unused and won't be used in the future. Hence why I bundled all of them together. They are just taking up space for no other purpose. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * My point is that because I don't have any knowledge on what most of the other competitions listed here are, I can't make a proper judgement on whether they are likely to be used or not. If the competitions actually happened, then they're completely different to the one template I've commented on. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 21:58, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * For most of the templates that have information about a certain year for a specific division, there already exists the exact same information on the article, thus rendering the need for an individual template useless. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:06, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This comment from shows why these mass noms should be speedy kept and redone if necessary. Many sports-related templates duplicate existing info in articles for precisely navigational or summarizing purposes (e.g., sports standings/tables, navboxes). Clearly he has not been involved in actively editing sports-related articles and is just mass nominating templates based on some categorical misunderstanding. Seany91 (talk) 07:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * There is no misunderstanding. These templates haven't been used for the purpose they were created for. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Restructure this. This sort of heterogenous mass TfD for unused templates is not a bad idea but the voting is messy already and will probably get worse. It should probably be in a table with columns for support and delete so that any templates worth saving are clear. Broadly, I am in favour of deleting unused templates if no-one speaks for them, but any good templates should be kept and ideally put on an article somewhere. User:GKFXtalk 22:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep all. I added two to existing articles. Checking naming conventions and current/prior season years for usage prior to TfD seems like a minimum. Doubly so in a heterogenous mass nom like this. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You should wait for the Tfd to close before adding any templates to pages. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No they shouldn't wait, there is no reason for TfD to get in the way of normal editing. If the templates are able to find a useful home as a result of this nomination that is a good thing. User:GKFXtalk 17:50, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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2021 NFL Templates
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The result of the discussion was speedy keep (withdrawn). (non-admin closure) User:GKFXtalk 17:56, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
 * 2021 AFC East standings
 * 2021 AFC North standings
 * 2021 AFC South standings
 * 2021 AFC West standings
 * 2021 AFC standings
 * 2021 NFC East standings
 * 2021 NFC North standings
 * 2021 NFC South standings
 * 2021 NFC West standings
 * 2021 NFC standings
 * 2021–22 NFL playoffs

No reason to have templates for a specific season. No precedent I can think of in other sports leagues or in the NFL. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I'm recanting these nominations. I made an error in assumption with my nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:45, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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