Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 September 11



Template:Mosques in Vietnam

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 September 18. ✗ plicit  23:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Mosques_in_Vietnam
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Template:Jamie Lawson

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 21:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC) WP:NENAN, only three targets. Muhandes (talk) 20:22, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Jamie Lawson
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:32TeamBracket-Compact-info

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 21:50, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Redundant to 32TeamBracket-Info. – Pbrks (t • c) 15:53, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 32TeamBracket-Compact-info
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:6TeamBracket-NPB

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 14:54, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Color purely decorative and does not meet WCAG AAA standards. Replaced with 6TeamBracket-info. – Pbrks (t • c) 01:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:17, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 6TeamBracket-NPB
 * Every NPB template I've ever made is based on an MLB equivalent (in this case template:10TeamBracket-MLB) and without fail, all of the NPB templates are eventually deleted while the MLB ones are never touched. I do not understand it and it is incredibly frustrating. --T orsodo gTalk 02:38, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I recently started a discussion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball (as well as WikiProjects Football, NBA, and NFL) about their colored brackets. While WP:BASEBALL has not responded, at WT:NBA, they have agreed that the colors serve no purpose and should be removed. I intend on removing their colors if I do not receive a comment, and if it is reverted, I'll start an RfC, most likely. – Pbrks (t • c) 03:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete per nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:The 80 Greatest Redskins
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:23, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Per WP:TFD, "The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view" - inclusion on this list appears to be subjective to the creator. See above reasoning for similar "90 greatest Commanders" list. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The 80 Greatest Redskins

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 * it's a list created by the team/franchise itself - https://www.commanders.com/team/history/80-greatest-redskins Diddykong1130 (talk) 03:19, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * See reply for Template:Washington Commanders 90 Greatest - if wikipedia stipulates that unique honors like this won't be reflected in templates then that decision should be made across all NFL teams. It doesn't makes sense that some NFL teams have unique templates while it's "arbitrary" for other NFL teams. Diddykong1130 (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Washington Commanders 90 Greatest
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 22:22, 18 September 2022 (UTC) Per WP:TFD, "The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view" - inclusion on this list appears to be subjective to the creator. My mistake (per below). However, I'm still not sure if Wikipedia should be mirroring this via a template. It's not clear to the reader that this is based on a list that the franchise publishes, and it still seems somewhat arbitrary to have a list like this for one team. OhNo itsJamie Talk 02:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Washington Commanders 90 Greatest

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 * it's a list created by the franchise - https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-announce-inductees-to-greatest-players-list Diddykong1130 (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it's any different than other NFL teams having templates that are unique only to themselves. Look at Template:PatriotsAllDynasty, Template:Patriots2010s, Template:Patriots50th just as other examples of unique honors that a NFL team created for its former personnel/players Diddykong1130 (talk) 04:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - I fail to see how it is "arbitrary" to keep when we have plenty of similar ones for other teams. I also fail to see how a reader is going to assume it's a fan list written up by a Wiki editor. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 13:11, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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 * Comment I think a bigger question is if the list of the honorees are featured on a list on the main articles for each of these NFL teams, do these navboxes just duplicate a list? While there is a navigational purpose for sure, I think there is an issue that needs to be addressed with the respective projects if these templates merit being created in the first place because these are not significant awards or honors like making the team or NFL Hall of Fame. These are basically just team honorifics. And all these lists on the mainspaces for these NFL teams should be moved to an award/honor article for each because it makes the articles bloated. Something similar for baseball teams in Category:Major League Baseball team trophies and awards or Category:Major League Baseball team records. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:37, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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