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Template:Timeline of lighting technology

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 21:24, 23 June 2023 (UTC) Single-use template. Suggest subst and delete. Izno (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Timeline of lighting technology
 * Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Signal Battalions

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 20:35, 23 June 2023 (UTC) This template is insufficiently complex to need a template separate from Template:Military unit sidebar. I've already made it a passthrough to indicate how simple it is. Recommend subst and delete. (See also discussion on the 15th.) Izno (talk) 18:32, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Signal Battalions
 * Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Adopt-a-typo Talk/Support

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC) unused outside of one user's userspace, should be moved to userspace. Frietjes (talk) 15:03, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Adopt-a-typo Talk/Support
 * No need to move this to userspace, just subst and delete as dead. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Supranational Turkic Bodies

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:09, 23 June 2023 (UTC) Follow-up to Articles for deletion/List of Turkic dynasties and countries and its precedents deleting "Turkic" categories, templates, lists and articles. We can't define countries by language family, so we can't have any combination of "Turkic" with a set of countries. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:46, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Supranational Turkic Bodies
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Country data Xinjiang

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC) Country data templates are used for subnational divisions with flags, but Xinjiang does not have an official or unofficial flag. The Kokbayraq is the historical flag of East Turkestan and is used by East Turkestan independence activists. The latter would never describe the Kokbayraq as the "flag of Xinjiang". Likewise, the Chinese government would not describe the national flag as the "flag of Xinjiang"; it's just the national flag. There's no utility in having this country data either; in what scenario would having the Chinese flag next to only "Xinjiang" be necessary? Yue 🌙 07:10, 9 June 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  08:58, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Country data Xinjiang
 * Comment: I predicted this nomination in my edit summary upon creating the template. I created it to fix a listing at Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates. See Talk:List of countries with alcohol prohibition for one possible legitimate usage; the other usages are sandboxes that look like tests to me, or questionable See Also sections in Country data templates. This template may be redundant to Country data East Turkestan, which could replace it in some of the existing transclusions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Beano supporting character

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) C LYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 07:31, 24 June 2023 (UTC) Five transclusions. Created in 2021. Subst and delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.218.18.234 (talk) 112:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Beano supporting character
 * Keep or Merge. Template appears to be useful. Substing would result in Infobox being used directly in articles, which is undesirable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:29, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with a merge to Infobox character, per Izno below. I just didn't want it to be substed directly. I have changed "Keep" above to "Keep or Merge". – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Organisation purposes, and ditto with Jonesey95. --MonkeyStolen234 (talk) 15:42, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, convert uses to Infobox character. There's no reason to have this separate template. Izno (talk) 16:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete (without redirect) and convert to Infobox character. We've moved away from series-specific character infoboxes a few years ago. No reason to start this again. Additionally, do not merge any of this infobox's parameters. If any are wanted, they should be brought up at the template's talk page. Gonnym (talk) 17:06, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 08:45, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep Useful way to organise these articles. Eopsid (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per Jonesey95. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Repalce with the character infobox. There is no need for each character infobox for each work of art that has an article on fictional character. Not a single keep vote clarifies why we need character specific infobox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace with Infobox character. There's a bit of cruft that this template brings in that I don't desire. Infobox character is a preferrable replacement. SWinxy (talk) 19:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * delete per above, no need for anything more than infobox character here. if you can't get everything to fit, then there must be too much cruft. Frietjes (talk) 23:07, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete This seems clearly redundant to infobox character, and none of the keep !voters have explained why/how it isn't. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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Unused ZSU templates
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 12:21, 3 July 2023 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 17:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * OPBr ZSU
 * 3 OTBr ZSU
 * 17 OTBr ZSU
 * 57 OMPBr ZSU
 * 80 ODShBr ZSU
 * 95 ODShBr ZSU
 * 101 OBrO HSh ZSU
 * Still adding these to articles. Also some are new units created and will be added to battle articles later. Do not delete. Fang Luo (talk) 07:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Templates should be created when needed, not mass created and left unused. Gonnym (talk) 02:42, 29 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Will be later added in corresponding articles. Fang Luo (talk) 07:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , this is why the TFD process allows one week for comments and changes. Any of the above templates that are transcluded in articles at the end of the TFD are very likely to be kept. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:19, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Per the consensus about the unused templates (see original nom), I have deleted them. Regarding the templates that are now in use: as a question to the participants, how are these different than other templates (for example, the half-dozen used in the Battle in Shakhtarsk Raion infobox)? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 07:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete with prejudice, not just for being unused but for being a generally bad pattern. One, per MOS:ICONS, and two, because without that use case this is a case of trivial image linking. Izno (talk) 16:26, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This template also helps keeping track of battles involving these units. Fang Luo (talk) 09:48, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Links to those units can also provide that kind of tracking, if that is even at all necessary whatsoever. (It's not.) Izno (talk) 00:45, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I don't see a particular reason why there needs to be a template for these shields. That they are also links feels like they violate some MOS guideline. SWinxy (talk) 19:22, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per Izno. To answer Primefac's question, they aren't - I would support deleting those too. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Izno (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:International rankings of Australia
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 02:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC) All necessary information is on the article of the same name. No need for this anymore. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:52, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * International rankings of Australia
 * Delete has always been article content that does not belong in a template. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, shouldn't be a template. – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:48, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Lunar-geo-time
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC) Unused. Izno (talk) 01:09, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Lunar-geo-time
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 16:57, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
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