Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa/Archive 5

Rwanda FAC
Hi again guys,

Following a lengthy peer review led by User:Cryptic C62, I have now nominated Rwanda for Featured Article status. I would like to invite any contributions to the process and feedback from members of this project at Featured article candidates/Rwanda/archive1 if you have the time/inclination! Thanks &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:33, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Windmills in South Africa
I've created the List of windmills in South Africa. Assistance is needed with wikilinking various locations. Assistance sought from Wikipedians in Cape Town, Edenvale or Somerset West who can photograph the existing windmills. Stumps remained at Malmesbury and Durbanville in 1974, but I don't know if they are still standing. Mjroots (talk) 11:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The name of Ivory Coast/Côte d'Ivoire
There's a pretty big discussion over at Talk:Côte d'Ivoire regarding the title of that article, and whether it should be changed to Ivory Coast. This seems to be kind of a big decision that has the potential to stand as a precedent for many other titling questions in the future, so we'd like to get it right. If you'd like to read and/or participate in this discussion, you are quite welcome to drop by and do so. It would be have to get a solid decision made here, and to not have this question resurface every year, although I guess that's not the end of the world either. Anyway, thanks in advance. -GTBacchus(talk) 05:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject South Africa banner template
At WikiProject South Africa we're talking about using a separate project banner instead of WikiProject Africa - in the same way that the Zimbabwe, Algeria, Nigeria, etc. projects have their own banner. At the BRFA for the bot to make the change, one of the commenters expressed concern that WP:AFRICA should know that about 10,000 articles are about to go 'off its books', so to speak. I've tried to design the bot process (described at the BRFA) so that only specifically-South African articles will be affected. Any thoughts? - htonl (talk) 15:47, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I have been doing a large amount of assessment work on WP:RSA articles currently tagged with and the majority of those articles are South Africa specific and does not relate to the rest of Africa. I think it will be in the interest of both WP:AFRICA and WP:RSA to have them separated. Cross-border articles (eg. Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park) and articles that relate to Southern Africa (eg. Common Monetary Area) can still use the WikiProject Africa banner. --NJR_ZA (talk) 17:44, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Muhamadou Salieu Suso (Gambian musician)
I'm not sure how this musician's name should be sorted, and what the different parts are. Is part of his name a "last name"? Can somebody who is familiar with Gambian naming conventions help me out so that I don't mess up his name on the sortable list at Bronx Recognizes Its Own Award. Sometimes he seems to be referred to as Salieu Suso, or just as Salieu. Cloveapple (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Botswanan, again
The demonym for Botswana is "Batswana", and the adjective is "Botswana". It was last discussed here in 2007 and the consensus was not to use "Botswanan" on Wikipedia. However, an editor well-meaningly created Botswanan as a disambiguation page in 2008 (prior to that it was, in line with consensus and ENGVAR, a redirect to Botswana). I would like to restore this to a redirect but the article's creator has contested this. See the discussion at Talk:Botswanan. This also comes up periodically at Talk:Botswana and the consensus there has also always been that this is a solecism. I maintain that having an article, even a dab page, at this error is like having an article at virii or octopi and I would like to solicit your thoughts on how best to deal with this going forwards. --John (talk) 16:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I think having a Botswanan article is fine. The word is in widespread usage and is present in the major dictionaries, so the 'the word doesn't exist!' argument is baseless. I think the reason that consensus has been reached against it in the past is that such discussions largely attract people with a very strong view against 'Botswanan'; most people don't really care and just keep using the word, and it's not wrong. 'Botswana' in the adjectival sense may be correct in Tswana and is also usually used in English in Bots (though I've also heard 'Botswanan'), but to declare 'Botswanan' wrong is just a bit pretentious. It's like insisting on 'Setswana' instead of 'Tswana'. It's nice if people know 'Motswana' and 'Batswana' and use it, but 'Botswanan' is also correct and accepted. Why care? Rainbowwrasse (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

location of Al Wigh Libya
The coordinates given are 45 km east of the airport and base by that name and is an area of empty desert. Source: Google Earth. Carl G — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.97.232.102 (talk) 20:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thanks for the correction. --Banana (talk) 04:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Lango People
Hi, i just want to comment on the Wikipedia article about the Lango People of Uganda, more specifically on their origin. Contrary to what is presented in the article that the Lango identify with Luo people and refute association with Ateker, there is a school of thought that the Lango actually have the same origin, and have kinship, with the Ateker people, i.e. Teso, Karamojong, Turkana, etc. This origin, according to legend, is Ararat in Abyssinia (Ethopia). They adopted the Luo language as a result of association with Acholi. Evidence of this is that the Jaluo of Kenya refer to Kalenjins, Turkana, Karamojong as "Jalango". Also the original Lango language, Leb Lango, spoken by a few elderly people of Lango, has closer relationship with Ateker languages, Iteso and Nakarimojong, than with the Luo language.41.190.129.145 (talk) 08:49, 7 September 2011 (UTC)James Moses Omara-Ogwang, Kampala, Uganda

The "Lady of Garian" was drawn by Clifford Saber
Why is a photo of the drawing not included? While my dad was stationed at Wheelus (~1955-1957) we did as much exploring as we could with three young girls: the Roman ruins, the coast, the USS Philadelphia cemetary. The drawing made our trip to the barracks in Gharyan(sp) most memorable. Janwpb (talk) 20:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)Jan
 * Because no one has released a photo of the drawing under a free license.--Banana (talk) 03:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

South Sudan for Africa map
I see that the Africa article now has this note: <>  -- Jo3sampl (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The article now has an image the includes South Sudan. --Banana (talk) 04:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Request
I'm making a request to merge Second Ivorian Civil War into 2010-2011 Ivorian Crisis. Please make your inputs. B-Machine (talk) 16:09, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Sudanese article needs your attention
Hi all, I found Aggrey Jaden while doing New Page Patrol[you can help!], and since WP:SUDAN looks to be fairly inactive, I figured I'd bring it to your attention. Needs a total rewrite, and I have zero knowledge or expertise in the area. → ROUX   ₪  23:36, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've done some work on it, but it still needs some NPOV work. --Banana (talk) 03:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Mahdist flag RFC
Please comment at Talk:Battle_of_Omdurman, thanks,  Spinning Spark  08:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

The Democratic Republic of the Congo and The Republic of the Congo - use official names please
I know that this has been discussed in the past, but the political situation is much more settled now - names and flags have been established for the long term and so it's worth making the point of sticking to official names again.

Congo-Kinshasa and Congo-Brazaville are historical names; they are also names which are used informally in the capital cities of the two countries, probably because the people who live there think they represent the whole country. It's pretty similar to people in London, or Paris, who think they represent the whole of their respective countries. However, those names are not the official names of any country in present times. It's not even open to discussion really. This is an encyclopaedia - and the names of the two countries are The Democratic Republic of the Congo and The Republic of the Congo (with or without "the") and nothing else. We are going into dangerous territory if we think we can change things. Remember, Wikipedia is used by millions of people as a primary reference. Francis Hannaway 08:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Health in Kenya
The netrality in this article and the health section in the main Kenya article is questionable, particularly when discussing female genital mutilation. The facts are accurate but the tone of the articles should remain neutral for them to be considered academic sources. While the topics discussed in these sections are touchy, the word choice should ideally be less emotional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.178.222.251 (talk) 21:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, although I think some of the writing just sounds like a non-native speaker wrote it. I'll work on both of the articles sometime today. If you know anything about the subject, please look over my rewrite to make sure everything remains accurate. --Banana (talk) 19:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Niominka
The page on the Niominka of Senegal was recently moved by an editor to a new title "Serer-Niominka". I have petitioned to have it moved back to its original title. I would like to invite other editors for input. Walrasiad (talk) 06:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Serer people
Hi there. The Serer people article needs your attention. I believe it was rated a stub class mid importance a while back. Would you kindly give it a run over and any recommendations for improvement.

Thanks. Tamsier (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Concerns about User:Dierk Lange
I'm not sure if this is the proper place to put this concern, but I have noticed over the last few months that User:Dierk Lange has been extensively editing many articles on African history (such as Kanem-Bornu Empire, Oyo Empire, etc.) and referencing many of his additions with papers and article which he himself has authored. Now I'm not sure what the Wiki policy on this is exactly, clearly people are not allowed to reference things that they have published themselves, but some of these articles he cites seem to have been published in what appear to be real historical journals (Anthropos, Working Papers in African Studies, etc.), though I have no idea whether they are considered legitimate or not. Essentially Dierk Lange seems to be inserting significant amounts of his own theories into articles, now I don't claim to be an expert in this area, but frankly most of it does not sound like "Mainstream" history (i.e. theories about African kingdoms being founded by the Lost Tribes of Israel, or the ancient Assyrian Empire, etc. You can read all about it at his personal Website: http://dierklange.com/). Some editors have challenged his additions, but there hasn't really been much debate about it (as far as I can tell). As I don't know enough about the subjects, I've felt unable to really deal with it, but seeing more and more of Dierk Lange's theories being put in numerous articles seems (at the very least) to be Undue Weight. Does anyone else have the same concerns, and if so what should be done? --Hibernian (talk) 16:22, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What, nobody has any opinion about this? If no one here is interested where else should I take this? --Hibernian (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Usually when somebody cites a lot of sources written by themselves, that's a warning sign for the possibility of fringe theories &c. I had a quick look at some random edits and they seemed plausible, but I couldn't say more without closer investigation. Unfortunately, African history interests very few wikipedians, so if there were anything amiss, it wouldn't be spotted quickly. When I get spare time I'll barricade myself in the library and do some detailed research on a couple of articles to see how they compare to reliable sources...
 * Have you discussed this with Dierk? bobrayner (talk) 02:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Although this looks odd. Oyo empire still extant? Exodus from Syria-Palestine? These are... surprising. bobrayner (talk) 02:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. I haven't had any contact with Dierk Lange about this (or anything else), as I didn't really want to go accusing him of anything without getting some more facts and other opinions. I'm no expert on this subject, so I don't know if I would even be able to debate about it, but most of what he adds has a very strange look to me. I suppose the questions that need to be answered are; 1) were those articles and papers he's citing published in recognized academic journals, making them reliable sources? And 2) even if they were reputably published, to what extent should Wikipedia articles reference these theories, versus some other theory? (The question of Undue weight). --Hibernian (talk) 01:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

proposed edits to Kibale National Park
Kibale National Park is a national park in southwestern Uganda protecting moist evergreen rain forest. This park is 766 km in size with an altitude of 1100 meters to 1600 meters and very diverse landscapes across the land (McGrew, 1996). Kibale is one of the last remaining expanses of forest that contains both lowland and montane forests in East Africa. It is also extremely ecologically important in Africa as it sustains the last significant expanse of pre-montane forest in East Africa (Moukaddem, 2011). The park was established in 1993 to protect a large area of forest previously managed as a logged Forest Reserve (gazetted in 1932). The park forms a continuous forest with Queen Elizabeth National Park. This adjoining of the parks creates a 180 km (111 mi.) wildlife corridor. It is an important eco-tourism and safari destination, popular for its population of habituated chimpanzees and 12 other species of primates. It is also the location of the Makerere University Biological Field Station (MUBFS).[1] 1.) Location: Kibale National Park is located in the districts of Kabarole and Kamwenge, approximately 320 kilometres (200 mi), by road, west of Kampala, Uganda's capital and largest city. Fort Portal in Kabarole District is the nearest large city to the national park. The coordinates of the park are:00 30N, 30 24E (Latitude:0.5000; Longitude:30.4000). 2.) Locals and the Park: Two major tribes, the Batooro and Bakiga, inhabit the area around the park. They use the park for food, fuel, and other resources and with the help of the Uganda Wildlife Authority, manage to do this relatively sustainably. Tourism revenue from the park brings in money for the natives who live around the area. In the last century, the population around the park has increased by sevenfold. This is speculated to be because the park directly brings in revenue for those living around it and the tourism industry creates jobs. Also, many farmers believe that the soil is better for growing crops year round. This increase in the population has caused the area around the park to be divided and developed or turned into plantations and farmland. This fragmentation of the area outside the park has begun to affect the biodiversity inside the park (Hance, 2010). 3.) Biodiversity: Kibale National forest has one of the highest diversity and concentration of primates in Africa. Kibale National Forest has the largest number of endangered chimpanzees, as well as the Red Colobus Monkey (status: threatened) and the rare L'Hoest Monkey (Hance 2010). The park is also home to over 325 species of birds, 4 wild cat species, 13 species of primates, a total of at least 60 species of mammals, and over 250 tree species. The predominant ecosystem in Kibale is moist evergreen and semi-deciduous forest. Much of the forest was logged during its time as a Forest Reserve, and some exotic species of trees were planted in plantations (pines and eucalyptus). Since the national park was gazetted these introduced trees have been removed and logging has ended. 4.) Fauna Edits: The mammal fauna of Kibale is dominated by primates, 13 species of which live in the forest. The park protects a well studied habituated population of Common Chimpanzee, as well as several species of Central African monkey including the Uganda Mangabey, the Ugandan Red Colobus and the L'Hoest's Monkey. Other primates that are found in the park include the black and white Colobus monkey and the blue monkey (Lilieholm 1997). The park's population of elephants travels between the park and Queen Elizabeth National Park. Other terrestrial mammals that are found within Kibale National Park include red and blue duikers, bushpigs, warthogs, and buffalo. The carnivores that are present include leaopards, civets, golden cats, and two species of otters. In addition, lions visit the park on occasion (Lilieholm 1197). Bird life is also prolific. The park boasts 325 sited species of birds, including the Olive Longtailed Cuckoo, Western Green Tinker Bird, (Lilieholm 1997), noisy hornbills, two species of pittas (African and Green-breasted) and African Grey Parrots. The ground thrush, Turdus kibalensis) is endemic to Kibale National Park. (Lilieholm 1997). 5.) Primates: Primates are very common in Kibale National Forest. The forest has some of the highest abundances of species of primates in the area. Different species have different diets and many of the species are folivorous. One study actually found that black-and-white colobus monkeys (Colobus guereza) eat younger leaves over older leaves (this is thought to happen because the leaves have more protein and are easier to digest) (Chapman et al. 2004). There are many species of primates and these species persist in the less disturbed areas of the forest in their natural habitats. There are disturbances that are hindering some of these species. 5.1) Disturbance effects on primates: Many studies have been conducted to determine the effect of different disturbances on primates. Many of these studies have found that there is a decline in the amount of primates in differently disturbed regions. One study found that there was a reduction in primate number but that primate abundance was still high in the remaining forest of the southern corridor (Chapman and Lambert 2000). Some disturbances studied have been commercial logging, degraded agricultural lands, and fragmented forest. All of these studies showed that there is a wide variety of primates affected by different disturbances, and some are not affected by any. In all of the cases it shows that because of the variable effects on different species that all forms of human disturbance should be as minimal as possible, at least until further studies have been conducted to know the full effects of these disturbances. 5.11) Logging Effects: Logging effects have been studied specifically by a few people. Most studies find that logging seems to be having a negative effect on the species but there are some contradictions with that data and because of those contradictions and holes minimal logging should be done. Chapman and Lambert in 2000 found that some species of primates are found less in logged areas but others were unaffected. The species from the study are shown below:	- Chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes)= lower densities in all logged areas over unlogged 			areas	- Redtails (Cercopithecus ascanius) = lower densities in heavily logged areas lover 			lightly logged/ unlogged areas	- Red colbus (Procolobus badius) = showed a mixed density at different logged/ 			unlogged sites	- Black-and-white colobus (Colobus guereza)= showed a mixed density at different 			logged/ unlogged sites	- Blue Monkeys (Cercopithecus mitis)= could not get a proper density model with 			logging Another study conducted by Chapman and her colleagues in 2000 showed that many species of primates returned and came back to their original densities in lightly logged forest but in the heavily logged forest primates species were not able to return. This study helps support that Africa needs to develop a light logging system different from their heavily logging system they conduct now. 5.12) Degraded Agricultural Lands Effects: Degraded lands occur when land is cleared for agriculture and then abandoned after a few years. These lands are coming back at different rates and some are showing no possibility of re-growth. The effect these lands have on primates is still slightly unknown but some studies have started weeding out answers. Chapman and Lambert in 2000 found that most species of primates from their study were found evenly distributed throughout the entire forest, whether their was agriculture encroachment or not. 5.33) Fragmentation Effects: Fragmentation happens when a forest or habitat is broken into patches by outside disturbances. A fragmentation study done by Onderdonk and Chapman in 2000 showed an overall non-generalization on primates within fragments on the edge of Kibale National Forest. The species found in the fragments highlighted by the study are shown below: - Black-and-white colobus (Colobus guereza)= found in almost all fragments - Red-tailed guenons (Cercopithecus ascanius)= found in almost all fragments - Pennant’s red colobus (Procolobus pennantii)= found in some fragments - Chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes)= found in some fragments - Blue monkeys (Cercopithecus mitis)= absent from all fragments - Gray-cheeked mangabeys (Lophocebus albigena)= absent from all fragments 6.) Flora There are approximately 229 species of trees found within the moist tropical forests of the park. Some endangered timber species of trees include Cordia millenii, Entandrophragma angolense, and Lovoa swynnertonnii. The forest understory is dominated by shade-tolerant shrubs and herbs, which include Palisota schweinfurthii and Pollia condensate, in addition to ferns and broad leaf grasses (Lilieholm 1997). 7.) Forest Management Reforestation efforts A verified carbon standard project entitled “Natural High Forest Rehabilitation Project on Degraded Land of Kibale National Park” has been implemented in the park by Uganda Wildlife Authority in cooperation with Face the Future. According to the proposal, the project aims to sequester carbon and mitigate climate change through forest regeneration and tree planting on the degraded lands within Kibale National Park. Some of the project objectives include the restoration of degraded forest ecosystems, enhanced biodiversity conservation, prevention of soil erosion, education of and employment opportunities for local communities, and the regeneration of vegetation on the edge of forest areas to act as a buffer to interior forests. The project proposes to achieve these objectives through the reforestation of 6.213 ha within the park utilizing indigenous species including Albizzia quimmifera, Bridelia micrantha, and Croton megalocarpus. Seedlings of these species will be obtained from within the park, grown in nurseries, and purchased from local growers before being transplanted in the degraded landscape. Forestry Research in the Park Many studies have been conducted within the park to assess the factors influencing forest regeneration and forest management techniques. One such study’s results suggested that forest restoration could be achieved through preventing fires within the park and allowing natural succession to occur so that the grasslands formed due to human activity could naturally regenerate to forests. The results showed that plots within the park that had the longest history of fire exclusion had the highest species diversity of trees. Furthermore, species of trees that required animal dispersal of their seeds were far more abundant than non-animal dispersed species in the plot with the longest duration of fire exclusion. This suggests that seed dispersing animals were also more abundant in areas where fire was excluded. Lastly, the presence of seed dispersers and animal dispersed species of trees in some grassland plots suggest that suppressing fire and allowing natural seed dispersal to occur can encourage forest regeneration (Lwanga, 2003). Another study evaluated the use of exotic pine and cypress tree plantations as a forest restoration technique within the park. This study showed a high level of natural regeneration of indigenous trees within pine plantations most likely due to the use of these plantations by seed dispersing animals such as redtail monkeys, chimpanzees, duikers, and bushpigs, all of which were sited or tracked within the plantations (Chapman 1996).

Resources: Chapman, C. A. and L. Chapman, J. (1996). "Exotic tree plantations and the regeneration of natural forests in Kibale National Park, Uganda." Biological Conservation 76: 253-257. Lilieholm, R.J. et al. (1997). “Reasearch opportunities at the Makerere University Biological Field Station, Uganda.” Bulletin of the Ecological Society of America 78(1):80-84. Lwanga, J. S. (2003). "Forest succession in Kibale National Park, Uganda: implications for forest restoration and management." African Journal of Ecology 41: 9-22. Moukaddem, Karimeh. "National Parks do not Contribute to Poverty, finds decade long study." Mongobay.com 24 August 2011. n. pag. Web. 5 Oct. 2011. . Hance, Jeremy. "Forest Loss Occuring Around Kibale National Park in Uganda." Mongobay.com 28 June 2010. n. pag. Web. 5 Oct. 2011. . McGrew, William, et all. Great Ape Societies. Cambridge University Press, 1996. Print. "Kibale Forest." National Parks of East Africa. N.p., 2010. Web. 24 Sept 2011. . — Preceding unsigned comment added by UFwildlifers (talk • contribs) 18:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Ndegwu,a peaceful community
ndegwu,my home town,a rising giant.the most peaceful community in nigeria.a place where everybody is his brothers keeper.through community efforts we are able to have good road,good drinking water and electricity.our past and present ndegwu leaders have done very well.your labour shall never be in vain.in due time we the younger generation will honour you.my elders continue your good work..chris emeadi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.138.191.99 (talk) 18:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Kindly correct http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kikwete#Corruption_and_other_controversies ([5])...Parliamentary findings showed the Prime Minister(NOT Mizengo Pinda Mizengo_Pinda)(Edward Lowassa Edward_Lowassa) to be involved in awarding the contract to non-existing US-based company, and the Prime Minister resigned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.46.120.68 (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Comments requested at Flag of Western Sahara
Hello WikiProject Africa editors! Your comment is requested over at Talk:Flag of Western Sahara; there is an RfC underway there to help decide what the article contents should be. (There are a few different options, such as redirection, disambiguation, etc.) If you can take some time to share your opinion on the matter, it would be very much appreciated. —  Mr. Stradivarius ♫ 15:07, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Arch-Bishop Okoth Ojolla Girls School
Arch-Bishop Okoth Ojolla Girls School in Kenya has been nominated for deletion yet the sources that have been found suggest that the school is potentially interesting and notable. African schools are under-represented on Wikipedia and we would like to remedy this situation but we do not have any local editors in Africa at WikiProject Schools who can help. I wonder if anyone is able to help to improve this article and find further sources. Dahliarose (talk) 14:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

RfC on Religion in Africa
An Request for comment has been opened on Talk:Religion in Africa that may be of interest to members of this Wikiproject. We invite your input there. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month
Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Africa will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in African history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Airlines of Africa
I started a new article that may be very high priority: Airlines of Africa WhisperToMe (talk) 07:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

FAR
nominated Frederick_Russell_Burnham for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Rwanda FAC
Rwanda is up for second FAC. Please comment at WP:Featured article candidates/Rwanda/archive2. Thanks! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 10:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

African Film Festival of Cordoba - FCAT
African Film Festival of Cordoba-FCAT (formerly African Film Festival of Tarifa) released text contents under a CC BY-SA license (see right column on website) as part of the project Share Your Knowledge developed within WikiAfrica (GLAM).

I'm going to upload texts from their website in this category. --M.casanova (talk) 11:45, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Article Edit of "Water Scarcity in Africa
I plan on editing the current article on "Water Scarcity in Africa" and would like to add it to WikiProject Africa page. I will expand the current brief article to address how clean water scarcity effects health, opportunities for women, education, development, agriculture, and regional conflict. All of these issues are pertinent to WikiProject Africa and the article will discuss how the removal of a basic human necessity, such as clean water, devastates all aspects of African development. Without access to drinkable water, African nations are unable to support equal and comprehensive education opportunities, healthy living, reliable food sources, technological advances, and sustainable positive development. Additionally, the burden of locating clean water is put on the shoulders of women and children, and thus women in these regions are denied access to basic capabilities, which has led to an unequal gender participation in society. Africa's current state is one of the most glaring examples of our time concerning how the lack of clean water leads to the stalling and reversal of human progress. I would greatly appreciate any opinions on what should or should not be included in my article expansion. Thanks so much! Hmccann Hmccann (talk) 04:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The changes that you made are really great! You added some extremely necessary information about the issue and I really appreciate your focus on water scarcity as related to development. Furthermore, your addition of breaking the problem down by region is great because you showed how you can't look at water scarcity in all parts of Africa as a homogenous issue. Your contribution to the page made it a really valuable entry and quite related to WikiProject Africa and human rights. Juliabarrow3 (talk) 03:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)Juliabarrow3

Concerns about article on Bamileke People
I have just left a note in the Talk section of that article, explaining my concerns about material added to it (re-added in August 2011, after someone wisely removed it), that I think is of very questionable quality and reliability. It seems that someone named Dieudonné Toukam has written a book claiming that the Bamileke are descended from the ancient Egyptians. I have not seen anything in scholarly literature to support this, to say the least. D. Toukam does not appear to have any particular qualifications to make these assertions. I would like to ask those who have more background in African history to take a look at this article and find some more reliable sources for the history of the Bamileke, which I'd like to learn more about. Iris-J2 (talk) 19:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Maternal Health In Uganda
I will be contributing to the Health in Uganda Page under the section: Maternal Health. It appears that it is currently fairly concise and I would like to elaborate on health issues, gender inequalities in regards to access, as well as cultural implications that contribute to healthcare delivery and practices. The purpose of this contribution is to provide the information necessary to invoke change to improve maternal health in Uganda. Any feedback or suggestions on this would be appreciated. Thank you! Hmorris3 (talk) 17:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Africa & Science
I'm not sure what should be done with this article. See my message on its talk page. Graham 87 03:46, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Angola question
I am a student at the University of Utah. I am currently taking the course Gender and Economic development in the third world, course number 5560. As part of my course work I am researching maternal health in Angola. I have discovered that many articles discussing Angola’s history, economics, and past civil war already exist on Wikipedia. However, information regarding current health care and health problems is limited and I was unable to find any article devoted completely to the topic of maternal health in Angola. My goal is to post well researched information, including available statistics and current health problems and practices onto the maternal health in Angola page. This information is designed to give readers a better understanding of what the current situation regarding maternal health in Angola is and what are some of the contributing factors to the current problems. Information regarding maternal health in Angola is primarily obtained through organizations such as UNISEF and the UN. These organizations do a great job collecting and distributing information. However, information from Angola itself is difficult to find. I would appreciate any scholarly information that is available from different Universities and if possible published in Angola itself. Thanks Haskimas B Naskasi (talk) 23:14, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

African, Asian and Latin American Film Festival
African, Asian and Latin American Film Festival (Milan, Italy) released text contents under a CC BY-SA license (see footer) as part of the project Share Your Knowledge developed within WikiAfrica (GLAM). OTRS declaration sent.

I'm going to upload texts from their website like this one. --M.casanova (talk) 07:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Azawad/Azawagh/Azaouad
We're trying to puzzle out the relationship of these three names here, if anyone has any sources they could contribute. These articles are likely to get a lot of attention due to the separatist movement that's just taken Gao and Timbuktu. Thanks! Khazar2 (talk) 03:02, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

African Centre of Meteorological Application for Development
Hi. I just started African Centre of Meteorological Application for Development but this needs more work. I'll be working on it, but help is of course welcome! --Gerrit CUTEDH 21:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Splitting Prostitution in Ghana from Prostitution in Africa what do you think?
I think that Prostitution in Ghana should have its own article. I believe that there is now enough third person information to justify a solo article see sources below what do you think I believe enough information can e gathered expand on the sources provided. I also a few other articles should be split I have started a debate whether people agree or disagree the debate is at Talk:Prostitution in Africa please give your opinions. Dwanyewest (talk) 16:33, 2 May 2012 (UTC)




 * I tentatively agree and replied at Talk:Prostitution in Africa. Khazar2 (talk) 18:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Top-importance articles?
I have recently started looking over the articles in the encyclopedia "Africana" by Appiah and Gates. I tend to think that the articles directly relating to Africa in that source, which also includes a lot of entries on the African diaspora, would probably qualify as per general importance classifications as per WP:1.0 as "Top" importance to Africa, and, probably, to the projects for individual nations and other subprojects provided those articles directly relate to that individual subproject's scope. Would there be any objections to my going through and assessing those articles, including that importance assessment, on the basis of that work? John Carter (talk) 22:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd tentatively agree that this is a good plan, but it's hard to be sure without having read the book myself--does the index seem comprehensive, rather than idiosyncratic? The only hesitation I have reading the description is that it appears very much to build an argument of its own (such as playing up the importance of the black experience to South America), which may lead to certain topics being emphasized more than other scholars might. Still, it seems like any African person/place/concept that rates an entry here is likely to be major. I say go for it. Khazar2 (talk) 03:19, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree that there is a problem potentially with perhaps overemphasis on some aspects of the African diaspora, including possibly individuals perhaps only tangentially related to Africa or even the African diaspora, like, for instance, John Brown (abolitionist), who I seem to remember has a separate article in it. Those articles may be relevant to WikiProject African diaspora, but that is an entirely separate project. I would try to make an effort to verify that the articles actually relate directly to Africa itself, like lifeforms, cities, history, and the like, not to the broader field of the African diaspora. Having said that, if there is anyone here who is involved with that project as well, it might not be a bad idea for the relevant articles about the African diaspora to be considered as important to that project. But, in general, I think a reasonable basis would be to start with this, and maybe other reference books about Africa, to determine which articles might make "Top" to the Africa project, and then go to the individual reference books on individual countries, periods and the like to determine what might also qualify as being Top or High importance to those individual countries, based on the articles being included in those slightly more specifically focused volumes. John Carter (talk) 18:36, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Khazar2 (talk) 18:45, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Krahn people
I am not a member of this project, but I was working on a museum collection article for a Face mask (We people) at the Indianapolis Museum of Art which referenced the Krahn people stub. The stub however lacked references and some sections were quite short. In any event, I recently devoted a couple of days to updating that Krahn article and I would greatly appreciate feedback from more experienced members of this group that likely have a far greater breadth of knowledge on topics concerning African ethnic groups. I don't think the article qualifies as a stub anymore either, although I could be wrong. Any suggestions and/or edits are welcome. Thanks! --AngelKelley (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi AngelKelley, thanks for your impressive expansion here. I've gone over it for a few finicky manual of style points, but from what I can see it looks solid. I'm no expert in the area, though, so if anybody has more knowledge of the Krahn, they might still take a look... Khazar2 (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The edits look great Khazar2! Thanks you for the help and also for the award. Im still really new to Wikipedia so I really appreciate more experienced editors catching the style rules I'm not familiar with yet. Thanks again, AngelKelley (talk) 18:21, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Telephone numbers in Djibouti
Hello. Found some sites that says Djibouti telephone numbers have changed from 6 to 8 digits last March 2012. Hope someone could verify this. Thanks! references: http://www.howtocallabroad.com/forums/topic/djibouti-telephone-numbering-changes

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5482.htm

Antigravity3 (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This is more of a forum for collaborating on Africa coverage; you might try your question at Reference desk. Khazar2 (talk) 06:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


 * My apologies. But thanks for the directing me to the correct page. Antigravity3 (talk) 05:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Tshombé
Can someone please check the é on Tshombé per Talk:Moïse Tshombé and remove it if it is not correct. Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:38, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Report on the use of self-published sources
The first version of a report on the use of self-published sources is now available, in WikiProject Wikipedia reliability. Some of the self-published sources listed in the report pertain to this project.

Suggestions on the report itself (a discussion has started here), and help in remedying the use of the self-published items that relate to this project will be appreciated. History2007 (talk) 06:20, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Mercenaries, Gadaffi etc at History of Libya under Muammar Gaddafi
Hello. I have twice reverted the removal of the word 'mercenaries' at the page about the history of Libya under Gaddafi. Another editor says the reference I have used is 'a lie'. I just want to follow policy, and I would ask a few others to see what they think. Thanks. Dbrodbeck (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The article is a bit of a mess but that particular bit of content looks reasonable enough. I've restored, with an additional source... bobrayner (talk) 21:52, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I would not argue with the statement about the messiness of the article..... Thanks for looking.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 22:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Responded there. Khazar2 (talk) 22:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Never said it's a lie, but i only regarded as a misleading information, remembering it's no more meant to be believed, already described thought.Clarificationgiven (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I guess I misread this edit summary then . Dbrodbeck (talk) 14:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No you are right here.Clarificationgiven (talk) 14:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Perth requested-move notification
A requested move survey was started at Talk:Perth_(disambiguation), which proposes to move:
 * Perth → Perth, Western Australia
 * Perth, Scotland → Perth, Perthshire
 * Perth (disambiguation) → Perth

Background: There was a previous requested-move survey which ran from late May to mid June. There was a great deal of controversy surrounding the closure and subsequent events, which involved a number of reverts and re-reverts which are the subject of an ongoing arbitration case. There was a move review process, which was closed with a finding that the original requested-move closure was endorsed; however, the move review process is relatively new and untried. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Requested move of Côte d'Ivoire
There is currently a discussion on moving the article Côte d'Ivoire to Ivory Coast. Please join the discussion here if you are interested. TDL (talk) 02:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Requesting article
There is not yet a Sports in Botswana article. Anyone interesting in maybe creating one is more than encouraged to do so. John Carter (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The correct name for such an article would be Sport in Botswana. Roger (talk) 20:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

New stub: Bahutu Manifesto (Rwandan history 1957)
I noted that fr.wiki has a lengthy fr:Manifeste des Bahutu on the 1957 political treatise against Tutsi alleged oppression, so I created a basic stub Bahutu Manifesto. If anyone can translate French decently and is interested in Rwandan history, this could be an interesting article to translate. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Blatant advertisement!
Hi folks. I started List of African dishes and am writing here to request that you, reading this, please fill out the description of one single item. There are over a hundred, and I will go insane if I try to do them all myself.

I know that soliciting like this is probably not allowed, somehow. But hey, it's for a good cause. Many thanks in advance for your kind, lovely, helpful edit that you are about to make right now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I'd say it's exactly what these WikiProjects are for! I'll try to do a few myself later on today. Khazar2 (talk) 19:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Urgent help needed at John Atta Mills and John Dramani Mahama
Ghana's president has just died in office and been succeeded by his VP; unfortunately, both articles are in very poor shape, lacking major parts of both men's careers. (For example, Mills' article doesn't even have one sentence about his four years as president.) These articles are likely to be very high traffic today, and are potentially headed to the main page via ITN--would anyone like to help me and others in getting them up to speed? Even if you can just source a few sentences from a news article, it'd be a big help. Cheers, Khazar2 (talk) 19:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Question regarding Africa WikiProject banner and individual national WikiProject banners
I have been going through the various articles included in the Appiah/Gates "Africana" encyclopedia and tagging them for the relevant projects, as has been noted earlier. In the process of doing so, I have found that there are several national projects which have their own banners, and which have placed them in a selected number of the relevant articles. That's clearly fine, but it might make it harder for me to request bot tagging and autoassessment, based on other extant assessments, of articles related to a given country if the bot also has to check for the placement of various national banners as well as the Africa WikiProject banner. I guess the question then becomes which of the banners, the Africa WikiProject banner or the various national banners, should be used primarily if not exclusively for the relevant material. Any input on this matter would be most welcome, and probably sooner rather than later, to make it possible to expedite getting a bot to come in and basically find what we have. John Carter (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If the article is relevant to only one country, use that country's banner (if it has one). If the article is about Africa as a whole or concerns a number of African countries use the Africa Project banner. See the rationale given above in the WT:WikiProject Africa section. Roger (talk) 14:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Reasonable, but I tend to think that would probably not resolve the issue of the somewhat random usage of banners to date. Some articles for the WikiProject Cape Verde have been tagged with that project's banner, some others have the Africa project banner, even though many of the articles tagged by the Cape Verde banner might also be relevant to other countries. I'm not sure if the bot owners know how to check for the presence of multiple, divergent, banners in doing bot based tagging and, possibly, assessment based on existing assessments. WikiProject Zimbabwe, for instance, includes assessment criteria for WikiProject Rhodesia, which itself might have its own banner for all I know. And then there's the matter of WikiProject Ancient Egypt, WikiProject Egypt, the Egyptian mythology work group, and the like. I think it would probably make sense to have one banner used exclusively for each individual country, even in some cases if that would lead to multiple banners. But I do think it might help if we had clear, agreed upon standards for all African WikiProjects. I could remove the material from the Africa banner for those countries which have separate banners, but I would want to know which countries want to continue to use their own banners, because for the purposes of consistency it would be best to have only one banner used for each individual country or related project or subproject. John Carter (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merge of articles.
I proposed merging Ndur and N'Dour as the Serer people article identifies them as different spellings of the same name - and they have nearly identical content. Anyone want to comment - the only comment so far is an oppose by the creator of one of the articles.

I also intend to propose merging Joof and Diouf as they are again alternate spellings of the same name. noq (talk) 19:56, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable to me. Commenting there. Khazar2 (talk) 20:01, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Don't take too long over any merger. Be bold and make the move! ... then deal with the flack later. Francis Hannaway (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

President of Somalia
I'm looking for some attention to the discussion of who is the current president of Somalia, being argued by just myself and User:Middayexpress at Talk:List of Presidents of Somalia. Thanks. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 22:14, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Sénégal River

 * Talk:Sénégal River is showing on WP Africa main page alerts, 08 Sep 2012 – Sénégal River (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved by Hillcrest98 (t · c); see discussion - ....but would benefit from more eyes.
 * Another, not showing, is Talk:Ethiopian coffee dress In ictu oculi (talk) 05:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Demographics of Ghana
Can someone review Demographics of Ghana? Someone just deleted the demographics infobox -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 04:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

User: MarkMysoe
Can someone check out the edits made by ? He seems to be changing population numbers under the edit comment "typo" in many articles, and repeatedly in serial edits to the same article. There's also a lack of new references in supporting the new numbers. Also WPGHANA and WPCOTEDIVOIRE is being replaced by WPAKAN banners, and Ghanan and Ivory Coast categories are being replaced by Akan categories. -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 05:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
 * These categories cannot be replaced. Country and ethnic group banners must be used together. And it's completely unacceptable to have misleading edit summaries. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I was not aware of my edit summary of "Typo" was misleading. I guess I should be more specific on my edit summary, which I will. About the categories, I would also add ethnic categories along with the country category if that needs be. As I'am a member and founder of WPAKAN, I say that the banners of WPAKAN are strongly supported and dedicated to specific Akan related subjects, than that of WPGHANA and WPCOTEDIVOIRE, I would include the country banners along with the WPAKAN banners, if that is meant to be. At 76.65.131.248, the population numbers can be found at the following reliable references ( --> http://worldmap.org/ and http://www.joshuaproject.net/). At 76.65.131.248 please try and leave me a message first (on my talk page) if you have a problem with my edits next time before attempting to report someone behind their back. MarkMysoe (talk) 20:24, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I left a uw-wrongsummary template which you promptly deleted. Since you have been blocked on Commons for fraud (see Commons:Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_30; quoted in several deletion discussion on English Wikipedia as well) I wasn't sure if you are all that accurate. -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 11:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * He is allowed to remove most kinds of warnings (User_pages) as it is a sign he read it. Having said that, this is a concern that he had perpetrated fraud at the Commons. WhisperToMe (talk) 14:53, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * May I say that yes of course, I have read a message/warning and it is indeed a sign that I have read a message/warning, as WhisperToMe has mentioned. I archive messages to keep talk page short and organized. WhisperToMe, I would like to inform you that I was indeed blocked from Wikimedia commons on the ground of a few images permissions that were intended to improve articles on Wikipedia and were then branded as perpetrated fraud. I cant see what my work on Wikimedia commons with images has to do with my ability and accuracy of editing texts on Wikipedia, as mentioned by 76.65.131.248.


 * At 76.65.131.248, I can inform you that I have been editing on Wikipedia for a long while now, and have created and contributed to the improvement of dozen of articles. If I do not have the ability and accuracy to edit on Wikipedia I would not have created a Wikipedia account and be editing, which you have not bothered to create a Wikipedia account that would not take more than 5 minutes to complete. At 76.65.131.248, you had a problem with some edits that I made, and as I'am a genuine editor on Wikipedia with a registered account, I have then supplied you with the sources you wanted to confirm what I had edited ( --> http://worldmap.org/ and http://www.joshuaproject.net/).


 * At 76.65.131.248, I was wondering, and I would like to think, respectable administrator WhisperToMe, would also be wondering, why is it that 76.65.131.248, does not have a Wikipedia account?, it would not take more than 5 minutes to create a Wikipedia account. I cant understand how an anonymous editor is complaining and questioning the ability and accuracy of my edits, when I am editing as a registered editor and person, and the person that is complaining about that registered editor and person (MarkMysoe) is them self editing anonymously (76.65.131.248). I guess it is not a issue since it has not been brought up by anybody nor, respectable administrator WhisperToMe, except for me. MarkMysoe (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You're correct: it's definitely not an issue. While I agree that the ideal thing would be for the IP to create an account, there's nothing wrong with editing from an IP address, and they have just as much right to point out misleading edit summaries as any other Wikipedia user (especially since in this case, the IP was quite correct). Since you've agreed to be more specific in the future, I'm not sure there's any value in pursuing this further. I do want to thank you again, though, for your edits to this area. Khazar2 (talk) 19:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


 * As you are someone blocked for fraud, I would think you would understand why major changes to figures under the edit summary "typo" would draw attention. Especially since you didn't add or refer to what source you were using at the time. You may want to defend yourself at Possibly_unfree_files/2012_September_11, where your block for fraud on Commons has been brought up as a reason for deleting your contributions on English Wikipedia. -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 00:31, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm a little skeptical of the two sources provided, both of which are run by religious organizations. Are there really no better sources, like maybe the UN, who likely get their data directly from countries' own censuses? —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 06:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Who wrote the edits credited to User:MarkMysoe above? The owner of the account has that he doesn't have any access to the Internet whatsoever between the end of August and the end of September, so it must mean that someone else is controlling the account, right? --Stefan2 (talk) 19:44, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest inquiring on the user's talk page. Possibly MM's been hacked, but it seems just as likely that he got home from his trip early or got Internet access where he is. Khazar2 (talk) 21:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)


 * At AlanM1, those two sources are the best that I could use. If you can help me to find better sources I would be very grateful. I do not think the UN covers such area, but I may be wrong. At Stefan2, I can inform you that I'am indeed the one controlling my account that I created. I mentioned to one person, and not to more than one person (such as the sentence "informed us") that I will be away from a computer and internet from August ending to September ending (meaning that I will not always be at a computer or have internet access 24/7) and not meaning that I will not have any access to the Internet "whatsoever" as has been twisted. MarkMysoe (talk) 21:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

This user is continuing to edit disruptively: I have left this message on his talk page:
 * Start of copied message
 * Akanland does not appear to be a recognised geographical entity. Ghana is a recognised country. So please stop your disruptive edits such as this one in which you remove almost all mention of Ghana. I see that you have been advised about this before, and I will copy this now to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Africa and, if it continues, will report it at WP:ANI. Other similarly disruptive edits include this and this.  Pam  D  11:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * end of copied message

Including French in Algeria lede and infobox
Please see Talk:Algeria WhisperToMe (talk) 19:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Request for help
Hi! The WikiAfrica and Share Your Knowledge teams are glad to announce that many "African" pictures are being published on Commons, either donated by international institutions or by single photographers. You can help: please see the list of categories here, then you can either add relevant categories to the pictures or place them in relevant articles in your favourite Wikipedia. Contents are mainly about, but not limited to, Senegal, Ethiopia, Mali, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, South Africa. Thanks a lot! --Elitre (talk) 13:46, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I do some work on Malian articles, so I took a look. The problem is that most pictures appear to be without any context, making them difficult to match to articles. Is there a separate area to look for these pictures' captions? Or is the hope that we can identify what these are pictures of? Khazar2 (talk) 17:06, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I was mostly looking in the first section; it seems that the second section has captions for its pictures. If I see any that I can logically match to articles, I'll add them on--thanks! Khazar2 (talk) 17:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Text from Libingi

 * Suspected copyvio redacted:::

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Libingi (talk • contribs) 16:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you clarify your purpose in posting to the page? Not sure I understand from the above. Khazar2 (talk) 17:05, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

This is a background of Mbunda history, which I am afraid is not well covered on your pages. Perhaps with your added honest research the world will be well informed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Libingi (talk • contribs) 17:13, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! This would be a great area to expand. I've reposted your text to Talk:Bunda people--perhaps this would be a good starting point to add the material. I've also posted some Wikipedia policies to your own talk page that you might read if you'd like to edit the article yourself. A key one is "verifiability", which means that any new text should include references to reliable sources. Maybe you could add the sources to the Bunda people talk page, along with your text? Khazar2 (talk) 19:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * What about the source of the text itself? See WP:Plagiarism. Unless you wrote it (which would make it unsuitable for use unless peer-reviewed somewhere), posting it here un-cited is already an instance of plagiarism, and may also be a copyvio. —&#91;  Alan M 1  (talk) &#93;— 01:13, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * At least some of the text does appear to be from . Khazar2 (talk) 02:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Since the user hasn't commented about the source of the above text, I've removed it from the page. Khazar2 (talk) 11:43, 25 September 2012 (UTC)