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 * Irish Willow new article Irish Willow. slight problem with a ref.  any suggestions for the article? Lugnad (talk) 09:13, 1 May 2015 (UTC)


 * RNLB Mary Stanford new ClemMcGann (talk) ClemMcGann (talk) 08:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ST Leukos new ClemMcGann (talk) 23:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Working on The Sinking of the Rochdale and the Prince of Wales ClemMcGann (talk) 02:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


 * New Irish Oak (WP:IMAR) ClemMcGann (talk) 11:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * MV Kerlogue new ClemMcGann (talk) 20:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * John Roach (shipbuilder)‎ stub ClemMcGann (talk) 19:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Kingstown Lifeboat Disaster added ClemMcGann (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Category: Shipping companies of Ireland was inexplicably deleted on March 5 by User:Betacommand. No reason was given. Do we need this category? - Alison ☺ 15:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we should have articles on more companies. Their flags (of the seven war-time companies) are paraded on the third sunday every november.  I am of the opinion that we need or will need that catehory.  Was any reason given? ClemMcGann (talk) 23:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Possibly it was seen as a duplicate of Category:Shipping companies of the Republic of Ireland Is this part of the row over Republic of Ireland for renaming to Ireland (state) on this talk page ? ClemMcGann (talk) 00:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cat was restored by Brown HairedGirl (talk) -- ClemMcGann (talk) 02:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

New Project
Yayy!!! - Alison✍ 12:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * My thanks ClemMcGann 14:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Penlee lifeboat disaster
Twenty-five years ago today, just before Christmas, 16 lives were lost in the Penlee lifeboat disaster. The RNLB Solomon Browne went down while rescuing the Arklow-bound, Dublin-registered Union Star on its maiden voyage. The captain, captain Henry "Mick" Moreton had his wife and two teenage daughters on board. Does this disaster fall within our project? ClemMcGann 20:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Your call, Clem. I'd say "yes". - Alison✍ 20:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW - we need to fill in the details around the project here. I've not done it yet but might hit it over the holliers :) - Alison✍ 20:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Clem, can I suggest "No". My reasoning being that whilst Union Star would come within the scope of the project, Penlee lifeboat disaster would not. The ship was Irish-registered (within!) whilst the disaster is named after the lifeboat which is British. But that is only my opinion. I would suggest creating a ship stub for the Union Star. And that would be within the scope. Frelke 22:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I see that Union Star is redirect to Union Star, Missouri so we would need a dab page. Frelke 22:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I adding it - if there are objections, I'll withdraw ClemMcGann 20:21, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Awards
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The way forward
Hi guys (and gals) Where are we taking this project? Have any of you any suggestions? One thing I thought about was to take any maritime related stuff off the WP:IWNB to-do list and add them here. Another idea was that we might have our own shortcut (can we do that?), say WP:IMAR.

In the first instance I think we could pad out the to-do list and then maybe categorise the items and prioritise?

Any suggestions/comments? Frelke 20:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd say move the maritime stuff over to hear and add a mention of this project on their main project page. Our goals and to-do list needs updating but I've not had the time here (Macworld is tomorrow & I'm mad-busy :) ) Categorize and prioritize, definitely but anyone here should feel free to go ahead and fill out the project page as they see fit - Alison✍  21:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Ha! We already have WP:IMAR. I missed that. Well done Ali. Frelke 20:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Way ahead of ya :-) - Alison✍ 21:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Bord Iascaigh Mhara
I just did this one. Apparently, there was an article from last year but it was deleted for copyvio. Can someone more knowledgeable look over this and maybe correct/expand? - Alison✍ 19:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent stub. And it reminded me to add an infobox to Irish Lights. Maybe we should do a variation of the infobox for Irish Maritime organisations? 21:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Project log
I wonder if we should have a project log. Not sure how to do it. Any suggestions? Frelke 07:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Done! :-) Here's the link. Feel free to update this - Alison✍ 17:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Related categories
BTW, I am working on the related cats at the moment. I'm not going to leave it like that. I'm just collecting the info together in one place to try to make sense of it. Frelke 07:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! - Alison✍ 17:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Scope
I have reworked/reworded the headings in the scope section. I also removed 'empty' headings. I know many people like to keep placeholder headings in. I'm one of those that doesn't but if any of ye would prefer to keep em in, I won't object. I'm just doing as it says in the book - Be Bold. Frelke 20:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Good News
The Maritime Museum has been awareded 2.8 million euros, by government, to restore the fabric of the mariners' church. Work will be supervised by the OPW. Contract has been awarded to Sisk. The downside is that it will be closed to the public for the next 12 months. However if any active member of this project needs access, then do email me ClemMcGann 09:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

RMS Titanic FAR
RMS Titanic has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 03:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

CFD Port categories
Hi. I have kicked off a serious CFD about port categories. Any comments/input appreciated. Frelke 07:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Please explain terms like
Can you please explain terms like USS ,HM, HMS ,RMS, MS in the intro of ship articles as some people don't know what they mean so have Royal Merchant Ship Oceanic or RMS Oceanic as the intro , is their a parent maritime project and will request this here also  Gnevin (talk) 01:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * These terms, 'MV' 'LE' 'RMS' etc all have wikipedia articles. it would add a lot of duplication to the articles.  having said that, I recall someone concluding that ships such as LÉ Emer (P21) | LÉ Aoife (P22) | LÉ Aisling (P23) | LÉ Eithne (P31) | LÉ Orla (P41) | LÉ Ciara (P42) | LÉ Niamh (P52) | LÉ Róisín (P51) were French!! because of the LE prefix.  I did define RMS in RMS Leinster. You could ask the folks at WikiProject Ships for an opinion.  Slainte  ClemMcGann (talk) 03:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Will ask but i dont see why the stand GAA club policy can't be followed such as Dublin GAA

The Dublin County Board of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) (Cummann Luthchleas Gael Coiste Contae Ath Cliath) or Dublin GAA Gnevin (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * like RMS Leinster ? ClemMcGann (talk) 17:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest i don't like the RMS Leinster intro ,i'd prefer the GAA style above or Alison's style below Gnevin (talk) 22:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Folks, I've just done this to the LÉ Aoife article. How does this work as a solution to the problem. It's discreet and doesn't interrupt the flow of the first line. Thoughts? - A l is o n  ❤ 18:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine my me; and thanks. however Gnevin asked about "terms like USS ,HM, HMS ,RMS, MS" which are outside our scope. I see the post on WikiProject Ships.  Lets watch and see. ClemMcGann (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, the little note is all you really need to clarify Gnevin (talk) 22:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * wonderful, first bertie gives Old Mariners' Church €3.2m, now this !!
 * Welcome aboard, may WP:IMAR have a calm sea, fair wind and a star to steer byClemMcGann (talk) 01:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Tweak to Template:Irish_maritime-stub
Since Maritime is a disambiguation page, I removed the link in the Irish_maritime-stub template. If this is problematic, please adjust as you see fit or let me know. Cheers. H aus  Talk  01:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

B+I
B+I Line See outline article if anyone interestedDurrus (talk)
 * Nice - I might be able to get pics of the war lost munster and innisfallen - ClemMcGann (talk) 00:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You see? ClemMcGann (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty goodDurrus (talk)

Irish merchant seamen database 1918-21
Email just received:
 * Subject: Irish merchant seamen database 1918-21
 * Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:54:19 +0100

Clement, I wanted to let you know that we launched www.irishmariners.ie yesterday. It lists 11,000 Irish born merchant seamen from the 1918-21 period, which is, I believe, about half the total number. Have a look at it. I thought that the reason why the identity card scheme was introduced (to detect conscription avoiders) would appeal to an Irish audience. I would be grateful if the Maritime Institute website would provide a link to my website. best wishes David :ClemMcGann (talk) 14:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Brendan
Evidence supporting Brendan the Navigator reaching America has been deleted. Perhaps we need a separate article on the voyage? ClemMcGann (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Lighthouse at Hook Head
I've been fleshing out the lighthouse on Hook Head, but it's not clear that it should be called Hook Lighthouse or Hook Head Lighthouse or something else. I'm inclined to move it to the latter name, but I'd rather have some confirmation before I do this. Mangoe (talk) 17:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The definitive list of lighthouses on the CIL site calls it Hook Point, which is a new one on me. I've never heard it called that. Not sure what to suggest now. Crispness (talk) 20:36, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Drat. Now I'm not sure either. Naturally the people administering it as a tourist attraction call it "Hook Lighthouse", giving us three equally balanced "official" names. Mangoe (talk) 21:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Can I suggest that we use the CIL 'official' name for the main article at Hook Point Lighthouse and redirect the other 2 into that? Crispness (talk) 06:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose that can be done, though I suspect that anything we do is going to be second-guessed. (sigh) Mangoe (talk) 15:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Canals in UK vs Canals in GB
There's a discussion at WikiProject UK Waterways about whether it would be useful to have a page listing Canals of the UK, or whether it would work better to have Canals of Ireland and a separate list for canals of GB. Contributions are welcome. --VinceBowdren (talk) 13:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

George Halpin
Hi, I've added an article for George Halpin (senior) which may be of interest. I should be getting together something on the Ballast Board at some time in the future. Svejk74 (talk) 11:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

LÉ Muirchú
Is incorrect. Muirchú was never a LÉ prefix ship. This only came in in December 1946 when Irish Naval Service was established with purchase of 3 corvettes from RN, replacing Muirchú All wartime ships were commissioned as Public Armed Ships. The article is incorrectly named ClemMcGann (talk) 23:49, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II
and timeline suggestions, opinions, advice welcome ClemMcGann (talk) 20:06, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Irish Mercantile Marine during World War II is GA - ClemMcGann (talk) 23:18, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Coffin ship
Hi, i'm not sure if anyone will read this or if it is the right place to put this.

Maybe the article Coffin ship (under the scope of your WikiProject) should be split, to mark the difference between the "irish" coffin ships, and the overinsured so-called "coffin" ships. I may be wrong. Just an idea :) Benzband (talk) 15:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I shall be proceeding to split the article, however i would appreciate input on the names : i propose creating coffin ship (insurance) for the over-insured ships and keeping coffin ship for the Irish ships. benzband  ( talk ) 16:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ (with hatnotes). benzband  ( talk ) 16:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Sinking of the RMS Titanic
I've written a new version of Sinking of the RMS Titanic, which I'm intending to nominate for Featured Article status with the aim of getting it onto the Main Page in time for the anniversary of the sinking. If you have any comments on the new version, please leave feedback at Talk:Sinking of the RMS Titanic. Prioryman (talk) 23:27, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Shannon-Erne Waterway
I have recently expanded this article, which I notice falls within the remit of this project. I left a note on the rivers that feed it on the talk page (Talk:Shannon-Erne Waterway), and wondered if anyone can help with information. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Convict Ships
New articles on ships which transported "convicts" to Australlia circa the 1798 rebellion. Britannia (1774 ship) Anne (1799 ship) Marquis Cornwallis (1789 ship) William (1770 ship)  Boddington (1781 ship)   Friendship (1793 ship)   Minerva (1773)  Sugar Cane (1786 ship)  Queen (1773 ship)  Lugnad (talk) 19:59, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
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MS Ulysses listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for MS Ulysses to be moved to MV Ulysses. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 22:48, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you check this?
As you are in WikiProject Irish Maritime: Talk:Lightvessels_in_Ireland ※ Sobreira ◣◥ (parlez) 09:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Passengers of the RMS Titanic
I opened a proposal to trim the passenger lists at Passengers of the RMS Titanic a few weeks ago. We've only received a few responses. so I'm reaching out to related Wikiprojects for more input. Editors are invited to join the discussion here. Thanks –dlthewave ☎ 20:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Lloyd's Register Foundation, Heritage & Education Centre uploads 5000 documents to Wikimedia Commons
Hi WikiProject Irish Maritime,

The Lloyd’s Register Foundation, Heritage & Education Centre have just uploaded 5005 documents from our Ship Plan and Survey Report Collection to Wikimedia Commons that may be of interest to you and relate directly to Irish ports and maritime history. The ingestion is comprised of 16 boxes and accounts for 1082 ships across 184 unique places of build.

The documents include original handwritten correspondence from Lloyd's Register surveyors, ship plans and even a small selection of photographs. Examples include an annual report for Fiery Cross, a wreck report for Highwave, and cabin plan for the City of Simla.

In addition to the Ship Plan and Survey Report Collection, we are also beginning to ingest every edition of the Lloyd’s Register of Shipping until 1909 as well as a percentage of the First and Famous Collection, the world’s most iconic ships from within our collection. We will be sure to keep you updated on the progress of this next step.

Browse the full collection here.

We would really welcome some support with the resources and encourage you to share our documents on Wikipedia.

Thank you for all your help.LRFHEC (talk) 11:16, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
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Project-independent quality assessments
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Good article reassessment for Whiddy Island disaster
Whiddy Island disaster has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)