Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pennsylvania/Archive 4

Hershey Creamery Company
I'd done some massive work on this article to greatly expand it from a stub to its current fuller state, however its seriously lacking in imagery. I haven't been able to find a single free use image in Flickr, Google images, archives, anywhere of any of the creamery facilities. Any members in Harrisburg who might be able to go by the Hershey Creamery Company and take a picture of its headquarters, and maybe someone in Lower Swatara who could get a picture of that newer distro facility they opened there? It would really help improve the article before a GA run. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 14:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Possibility of Wikipedia:Wikipedia Loves Art at the Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh
You may be interested in this. Hope to see you there! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:39, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Corruption of Wikipedia article history
The article history for Galeton, Pennsylvania, has been modified with no recorded article modification history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Galeton,_Pennsylvania --64.181.88.206 (talk) 02:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Milestone Announcements
I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 22:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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Dab help
At three miles island the location of the plant is given as "three miles downriver from Middletown, Pennsylvania" and "Londonderry Township, Pennsylvania", but both of these links go to disambiguious pages. Could someone please link the terms to the correct Middletown and Londonderry Township pages so I don;t have to guess where to go? TomStar81 (Talk) 23:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed PHMC closures
On 4 March 2009, the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission (PHMC) released a study of its 22 museums and historic sites, here: "Planning Our Future: Sustainability Committee Final Report". It recommended discontinuing operations at six of its sites, four of which are National Historic Landmarks. Proposed cuts to the PHMC budget mean these sites could close as early as July 1, 2009:
 * Brandywine Battlefield (NHL)
 * Bushy Run Battlefield (NHL)
 * Conrad Weiser House (NHL)
 * Fort Pitt Museum
 * Joseph Priestley House (NHL)
 * US Brig Niagara (museum ship)

Contact information for the Governor and Director of the PHMC are here for anyone interested in commenting on the proposal. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 04:08, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Townships
I'd like opinions on moving many Pennsylvania township articles. Some months ago, Omnedon and I moved all Minnesota townships to "_____ Township, _____ County, Minnesota". Prior to this time, they had been in a format similar to those of Pennsylvania: townships with unique names were at "_____ Township, Minnesota", while those with duplicate names were already at "_____ Township, _____ County, Minnesota". We did this in the interests of consistency: it's much simpler when all the townships have the same naming format. What would all of you think about moving most Pennsylvania townships so that they're all located at "_____ Township, _____ County, Pennsylvania"? Nyttend (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - I think this would help - as it is when writing about a township, I am never sure if the name is unique or not, this would avoid red links and dab links. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 13:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've no strong opinion either way, as my edits only incidentally touch on PA townships (usually while trying to link to the hometown of some historical person from PA). But another approach to consider to avoid redlinks is to simply make sure a complete set of redirects are in place. That way, you could always be certain that a link in the form "_____ Township, _____ County, Pennsylvania" will not be a redlink and will go to the correct page, while also leaving the short form as the actual title for those pages that don't need disambiguation. I believe this approach is somewhat more in line with avoiding unnecessary pre-disambiguation (as in the protracted TV show naming controversy and as had been a frequently point of contention in US city naming conventions. older ≠ wiser 21:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Support – I would like to see more consistency on place articles. This would definitely pinpoint in which part of the state the township is located. Will you be updating each county navigational template to avoid redirects? Maybe a bot could fix all redirects. ~ All is One ~ (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Only for townships. We should not do this for municipalities, boroughs, and cities, which almost always have unique names already. --M @ r ē ino 15:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comments — I've never meant to suggest moving anything but townships: boroughs and cities (plus the town and the town wannabe) should definitely remain where they are. As for the redirects — as the one who created the majority (or at least the plurality) of all county templates nationwide, I'm always sensitive to redirects, so don't worry about them.  I'll be sure to update links for any county that I move, and I know that Omnedon was always careful to do likewise.  Nyttend (talk) 02:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless the duplication of names across the state is fairly significant (>50%), there is no compelling reason to do this. One can always just create redirects to the name that includes the county. What fraction of townships would not need the county name for disambiguation? --Polaron | Talk 03:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe support - Can this be done without breaking a lot of wikilinks? For example, all of the pages in the Category:Pennsylvania House of Representatives Districts and Category:Pennsylvania Senate Districts are linked to townships, and I'd hate to see all those links broken. Otherwise, a great, but tedious to implement, idea. --A. Gorilla (talk) 02:57, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose This goes against the naming conventions for locations. Adding the county name is only done when there are multiple locations in a state with the same name.  TJ   Spyke   18:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

PA House & Senate Resources
Articles regarding the Pennsylvania State Senate and the Pennsylvania House of Representatives have passed some major milestones recently. First, every State Rep and Senator who served from 2000-now has at least a bare-bones article. However, these articles still need to be fleshed out, and everyone is invited to help out. Every State Rep article has at least an archived external link to an official PA House profile. This can be used for biographical data. The Senator articles still don't have this, but such links can be found here: (1997199819992000200120012002200320042005200620072008). The article for Thomas W. Dempsey is a good example of how these can look.

Second, every PA Senate district and PA House District have articles. However, most of the senate and many house articles still need a table of representatives. That data can be found here. The article for the 83rd district is a good example of how these can look. I would invite everyone to help us out!--A. Gorilla (talk) 03:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Thurlow, Pennsylvania
This seems to have been a historical locality just south of Chester, PA, but I can't find any modern references to it. Did it disappear, and if so, what happened to it? Assistance appreciated. Gatoclass (talk) 01:47, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The USGS GNIS lists only a "Thurlow Station, Pennsylvania" here. The corrdinates are within the modern city of Chester, PA. If you go any further south you wind up in New Jersey or perhaps Delaware. Will keep looking, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:09, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thurlow Station is on this 1913 state map of Delaware County here. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is a link to Ashmead's 1884 "History of Delaware County" on the Thurlow farm / estate here and on the following pages. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looks like it was just a railway station. Thanks Ruhrfisch, well sleuthed :) Gatoclass (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Standard Steel Casting Company, Thurlow, Pennsylvania, was the largest plant in the country for the manufacture of open hearth steel castings. This concern made all the most important castings for battleships, cruisers and ordnance for the United States Government. They also made locomotives, e.g., TRAINS, railroad tracks and much more. Thurlow, Pennsylvania is mentioned in several other articles in this encyclopedia!!! Thurlow, Pennsylvania should not be deleted; rather its location which is now Chester, Pennsylvania, should be indicated in the article with an explanation (or a historical note perhaps). It has value to Historians and Genealogy Researchers. My LONG ancestors who invented The Long Rifle settled Longstown, Pennsylvania. Longstown (Union County, Pennsylvania), is now New Berlin. A quick dip into Linn's Annals reveals MANY such changes.

If this encyclopedia is to serve its purpose, deleting the name of a town because its name was changed means it never existed, right? WRONG!!!

Respectfully,

Tiyang Tiyang 02:15, 4 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiyang (talk • contribs)

GA Sweeps invitation
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PA Roads needs help
I have a request of the project. Right now, the highways in Pennsylvania (under project WP:Pennsylvania Roads), and well, it is almost dead. We need help expanding over 350 stubs, and it would be very helpful, as some of the more important stuff needs help too. If you could possibly give input, ping me on my talk, or post here. Thanks.3 1/2 years of Mitch32 10:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Tepper School of Business
I have done the GA Reassessment of Tepper School of Business as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found that the article does not meet the current GA Criteria. My review can be found here. I have put the article on hold for one week pending fixes. I am notifying all the interested projects of this. If you have any questions please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Bloom Brothers Department Stores
Please review/comment at Articles for deletion/Bloom Brothers Department Stores. NVO (talk) 04:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Research list
I have spent a few hours collecting and categorizing research sources relating to the politics and government of Pennsylvania. It is located here: User:Blargh29/Resources. Is there a place under this Wikiproject where such a list could be appropriately housed? I just wanted to record these resources somewhere, for future use. In a related inquiry: is there enough interest in Pennsylvania's government and politics to warrant a taskforce or sub-project?--Blargh29 (talk) 05:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have created the WikiProject Pennsylvania/Politics and Government and the related resource page. Maybe in the future, this could become a full-fledged taskforce within the WikiProject Pennsylvania--Blargh29 (talk) 01:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Township categories
Three Pennsylvania townships had their own categories before we began moving the township articles to include county names; consequently, I've nominated them for renaming. Please offer an opinion at Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_July_14. Nyttend (talk) 13:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR for article Franklin B. Gowen
nominated Franklin B. Gowen for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.Cirt (talk) 18:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

New image for Award
I stumbled upon your on a user page. It was so cute i couldn't resist the urge to try to make a better one, even though I'm no graphist. I hope you will like the new version, but feel free to reverse it if you don't. If you like it, i can do the same for the, i've kept the xcf file for that. Ksempac (talk) 12:49, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of State Route 1002 (Lehigh County, Pennsylvania)
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:State Route 1002 (Lehigh County, Pennsylvania)/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. You are being notified as the talk page has a banner for this project. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Northeast Philadelphia
I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process after the original re-assessor had to drop out. I have found some concerns with the referencing which you can see at Talk:Northeast Philadelphia/GA1. I have placed the article on hold for a further seven days whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 02:20, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia Sun Oct 4!
 You're invited to the

Wiki Takes Philadelphia

October 4, 2009

Time: 12 pm

Location: Drexel Quad (33rd and Market) University City, Philadelphia 'RSVP (view/edit this template'')

Wikipedia Takes Philadelphia is a photo scavenger hunt and free content photography contest to be held all around Philadelphia aimed at illustrating Wikipedia articles.

Scheduled for Sunday, October 4, 2009, the check-in location will be at the Drexel University quad (between Chestnut and Market, 33rd and 32nd) at noon, and the ending party and photo uploading (location to be announced) will be at 6 PM. To reach the Drexel quad, walk south from Market Street at 32nd Street into the campus.

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--Pharos (talk) 09:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Pennsylvania GAR notification
Pennsylvania has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:41, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Pittsburg, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania
Can anyone help take a look at Pittsburg, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania? I've started a discussion on the talk page Talk:Pittsburg, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania questioning whether this town exists. Thanks. —Mrwojo (talk) 05:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Larry Ceisler
Some individuals might wish to voice their opinion about the article Larry Ceisler at Articles for deletion/Larry Ceisler.--Blargh29 (talk) 01:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Relevant SVG Request
I have asked for someone to vectorize some of the images from the articles of List of Pennsylvania state agencies. Maybe someone here has some of the skills? Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop--Blargh29 (talk) 05:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Rendell cabinet template
I have compiled all members of Ed Rendell's cabinet in a template. All of these articles are stubs and could use some expansions. They all have some relevant sources that could be used in the expansion. --Blargh29 (talk) 06:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

New Pennsylvania government stubs
On Village pump (miscellaneous) there is a proposal to add a great many (1,700, more or less) new Pennsylvania government stubs with a bot. I suspect that the volume would be overwhelming. Please check it out, and comment appropriately.--DThomsen8 (talk) 17:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * After getting more information, I support the writing of a bot to create these articles. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:34, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The discussion has moved to Village pump (proposals).--Blargh29 (talk) 23:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Lists of municipal authorities
Here is a short how-to on the way to create the Lists of municipal authorities:
 * First, download data on the special purpose governments in Microsoft Excel .xls format from the Census of Governments website. Then, edit and trim the superfluous columns and other non-pertinent data. Then, run some  commands to get the data out of the ALL CAPS format and into a more usable "proper" capitalization. You will probably have to run some find/replace searches to turn the Mcc, Mca, and other strings into McC and McA. Some of the government names had some descriptors in (Parentheses), which are probably added by the Census. Delete them, so you have the proper title.


 * Then, create a test table with the different columns that you want to see in your list. This will give you an idea of what kind of format you need your final data output to be in. Then run a  commands to collect the various columns into 1 cell per row, with the requisite "||" characters into a form that was easily plugged into the Wikitable code.


 * Then, you have to go through all the redlinked cities and direct them to the best place. Use your best judgment to see where the targets ought to be--either by creating redirects or piped links. You might want to create a wikilink for the "function" column. You can use a search/replace command to change a large number of these to an active state at once. At this point, you should have a decent and properly formatted list of special purpose governments.--Blargh29 (talk) 04:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Project maintenance
I have added Article alerts from the User:ArticleAlertbot and placed a request for automatic Wikiproject tagging at Bot requests/Archive 45. That might jump start this project--Blargh29 (talk) 07:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * For the next step in this process, we need some folks from the project to look through this list of categories User:Blargh29/Subcats of Category:Pennsylvania to see if there are any categories that will have pages that shouldn't be tagged with the WikiProject Pennsylvania tag. --Blargh29 (talk) 17:24, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

List of United States federal courthouses in Pennsylvania
List of United States federal courthouses in Pennsylvania is now being put together. I would estimate that there are about a dozen federal courthouses missing from the list (the older ones of which will be found here), and would appreciate any help in getting this done. Cheers! bd2412 T 03:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Milestone for Pennsylvania political
Each person who has served in the Pennsylvania State Senate and Pennsylvania House of Representatives since 1969 now has at least a stub article.--Blargh29 (talk) 06:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)