Talk:2022 Sweden riots

Neutrality
This article lacks neutrality. It entirely blames Rasmus Paludan, but Swedish police and Swedish politicians have not blamed Rasmus Paludan for the riots. 82.147.226.240 (talk) 16:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)


 * This is somewhat true, I have tried to clean this up to an extent. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 22:42, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Dunutubble, Aye1399, I think the first paragraph of the timeline section is still written from a non neutral POV, probably because it is sourced to the Anadolu Agency. I have changed Dunutubble's citation need tag after to better source needed.
 * Evrik the Anadolu Agency article promotes the views of "Turkish-born politician Mikail Yuksel", so I don't agree that it is a reliable source here. TSventon (talk) 08:45, 23 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I have replaced the text based on the Anadolu Agency article with more neutral text from a Brussels Times article. TSventon (talk) 07:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Lack of sources supporting lede
At the moment, the lede sentence to the article includes "riots broke out in several Swedish cities by Islamists," however, none of the reliable sources on the page seem to support the involvement of Islamists. Of all the sources on the page, the only one I can see that outright mentions Islamism is this one, and that's because it's quoting an opposition politician saying that there should've been "100 injured Islamists" as part of a call for a harsher police response to the unrest. And if I do a search, the most I can find from reliable sources is the Minister of Justice saying that Islamists in other countries have spread anti-Sweden disinformation on social media in recent years, which contributes to inflamed tensions, not that the counter-demonstrators in this specific unrest were Islamists. NHCLS (talk) 22:12, 23 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Attempts to add the "Islamist" label are being pushed by a single editor who doesn't provide sources for the claim. Most news reports don't talk about the background of the rioters much but those that do usually say that the rioters tend to be youths from a Muslim or minority background. "Islamist" makes it sound like a a more organized event than it is. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 17:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The two preceding comments beggar belief. The riots were enacted by islamists.  Full stop.  Trying to parse this -- to use wikipedia as a islamist pro-POV propaganda site -- is ludicrous.  It is perfectly legal to burn a Quaran.  And, the only people who respond with riots are Islamists.  That's it.  Anything else is mealy-mouthed, red-herring, crocodile tears propaganda.  24.57.55.50 (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This seems like a WP:BLUE situation. If it wasn't Islamic extremists that freaked out and started rioting over their book being burned, then who did? Was it some completely detached, outside, nebulous group that decided to wreak havok because of this event? Or was it the followers of the religion that always riot when their book is publicly torched? You don't need a source for this info. Innican Soufou (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * According to most RS many of the rioters were likely to be youth from minority backgrounds. Not necessarily Islamist. Dunutubble (talk) (Contributions) 13:15, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * If the riots were being done by a group of Islamists, it should be easy to find a reliable source stating such. Maybe it was Islamists. Maybe it was a group of white nationalists trying to get them blamed for rioting. Maybe a group of whites who just wanted to riot. Not BLUE. Find an RS, preferably more than one, list them here, list the change you wish to make, and get wp:consensus. Adakiko (talk) 18:41, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Motivation for Riots
The article seems to imply that the riots were "caused" by the Quran protests. According to a reliable source (generally left-of-center in the US), the protests were likely used as a cover by criminal gangs to attack police, and did not necessarily have a purely religious motivation:

https://www.npr.org/2022/04/18/1093289012/riots-in-sweden

I'm starting this talk page preemptively in case there is disagreement. Note that NPR is generally a reliable source. DenverCoder9 (talk) 06:21, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Well done for finding this, and I agree it should be in our article. NPR seems like a reliable source, but to anchor such an important aspect, I would say more are needed. E. g. a few major Swedish outlets, say Sveriges Television and Dagens Nyheter. Also, the NPR article (like all other reports in English that I can find via Google) references Associated Press. Associated Press appears at the top of the NPR article, and NPR's "criminal gangs" content is taken word for word from . Might it not be better to cite AP directly? Also, do you think you could treat it in the body of the article as well? The lead should summarize the body, and to have this content so prominent in the lead while it hardly appears at all in the body is unbalanced. Perhaps a section of its own? Bishonen &#124; tålk 07:19, 15 August 2022 (UTC).

Granted permission by government and police?
We need to find out and add wether the riots were granted permission by the Stockholm government, or were granted protection by the police department. Thank you. 176.227.24.33 (talk) 04:02, 24 January 2023 (UTC)