Talk:81st Academy Awards

George Carlin
Anybody else hink it's weird that during the In memory section of last night's show they didn't pay tribute to George Carlin? He was in a few movies and was undoubtedly more famous and popular than 90% of the people on the list. 216.165.95.64 (talk) 18:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * And Eartha Kitt! That was such a dick move, seriously Academy --Mattgcn (talk) 13:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Heath Ledger
no doubt heath ledger will get like a million oscars for batman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.169.5 (talk) 13:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heath Ledger didn't play Batman, dipshit 219.89.136.203 (talk) 08:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * He's not a "dipshit" ... I am pretty sure that he meant the film Batman, not the character Batman.  (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC))
 * He'll probably get nominated for Best Supporting Actor (for The Joker).--Snowman Guy (talk) 18:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

May Heathy win! He deserves the award more than anyone for his brilliant performance as the Joker. Can't top that. Today we'll be getting the nominations, and I'm 100% confident he'll be on there for Best Supporting Actor. I wish he were alive and well today so he could see how much he has been honoured :( Today is one whole year since he passed away and we all miss him so much... Rest in Peace Heath LedgerRestinpeace Heath (talk) 22:50, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Ledger's possible nomitation.
Please stop adding the possible nomination of Heath Ledger. Wikipedia is not a Crystal Ball. As for what the stars of the movie may want, every movie believes that it should be nominated for a boat load of awards. Jvsett (talk) 07:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Reference by Nine Inch Nails' Year Zero
Is it worth mentioning that NIN's Year Zero project has this in a fictional history timeline?Mondochrome 16:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mondochrome (talk • contribs)

"Controversy" section is getting too bias
Lots of personal opinion seems to be written into the controversy section on snubbed films. It may need a rewrite or more references. Comments?--Snowman Guy (talk) 21:49, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * And now the section is all gone! -Mardus (talk) 03:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The controversy section is becoming controversial. Is that irony? 69.223.72.135 (talk) 04:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Yup, btw, how was "The Dark Knight" snubbed? Appears to have been given a fair shot IMHO

LEAKED WINNERS!!!
Someone better take the winners list off ASAP! Or put a spoiler alert up! That almost ruined the whole Academy Award ceremony for many people! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.11.92.111 (talk) 07:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia does not use spoiler warnings. See Spoiler.  Tempshill (talk) 20:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Presenters
Someone removed all the presenters. Why? They ad alot the the information about the awards show.

Where are the presenters for Best Actress?

In Memoriam
Is it possible to add a section listing those persons who passed on screen during the in memoriam section.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:21, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe so. This is on the other Oscar ceremony pages. I don't think there's anything wrong with putting it on this page.--Snowman Guy (talk) 14:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * What page are you talking about.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * 80th Academy Awards, 79th Academy Awards, 78th Academy Awards, 77th Academy Awards, etc.--Snowman Guy (talk) 19:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Did they really not include Heath Ledger in the In Memoriam section of the program? Or was the an oversight by whomever made this list? Or maybe did they not include him because he was a nominee / winner? Just found this curious--can someone verify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.161.232 (talk) 06:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I was thinking this very same thing myself. Then, I wondered ... maybe Heath Ledger was included in last year's "In Memoriam" section ...?  But, I can't remember, to be honest.  Does anyone know?  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC))


 * Well ... according to 80th Academy Awards ... apparently, Heath Ledger's death was indeed commemorated last year.  (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 07:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC))

Who is editing this page
Seems like some primary kid is trying his/her hand. You really suck! Please maintain some quality or else get the hell out of here!

The Previews
Could we add a section that at least mentions which movies were previewed in the credits. If someone recorded it or something, it won't be hard to get that information.


 * I think it could be added to the "Premise" section. I recorded the awards, and here are a list of some of the previews:


 * Night at the Museum: Battle of the Smithsonian
 * Terminator Salvation
 * The Boat That Rocked
 * Public Enemies
 * Monsters vs. Aliens 3-D
 * Up
 * Angels and Demons
 * Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

I'll watch my tape to find out the others.--Snowman Guy (talk) 19:45, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

British Films
Is all this boasting about Britain relevant to this article? Other nations have won this many awards in the past, and this sort of stuff does not appear. Wallie (talk) 18:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

The 81st Academy Awards was also dominated by British presence, and it was reportedly the best British showing for years, with British films and British actors taken 11 prizes, including eight awards for Slumdog Millionaire and Best Actress for Kate Winslet. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown personally congratulated the winners on February 23, 2009, and stated "Last night was a great night for Britain," and "Britain is showing it has the talent to lead the world."
 * I putted this content to this article because the UK media seems to be making this a big deal and the British prime minister Gordon Brown commented on it as an achievement for the British film industry. The British had high hopes for this year's awards  apparently, and it paid off.--Teamjenn (talk) 19:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As mentioned, other countries have had success too. This is never mentioned, as it is only local news for that country. Anyway, I thought this was an Indian success too. All sorts of countries win Oscars. It is about the films, not the countries. Wallie (talk) 20:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Last analog broadcast
I removed a line in the intro stating this was the last analog transmission of the Academy Awards before the change to digital. My removal was reverted, and I just undid the reversion and took the discussion here.


 * Not relevant to the Academy Awards at all. Won't change their production methods at all; they will still use both HD and NTSC equipment, and the only impact the digital transition will have is over at the broadcast towers.
 * Doesn't affect how it'll look to consumers. It would be noteworthy, possibly, to mention that Such-And-Such an Oscar presentation was the first in HD, because that changes the way the show is seen, presumably how it's blocked and shot, and there was some concern by the makeup artists and such; but the transition to DTV changes nothing.
 * Relevant to America only and not the rest of the world.
 * WP:CRYSTALBALL. We don't know whether the digital changeover will be pushed back again.

To put it in perspective, consider how it would look if every yearly event (the Super Bowl, the Golden Globes, the Brit Awards, the Puppy Bowl) had this line in the article. It's a true who-cares-er. If it has any place in any article, it's the "Trivia" section. Tempshill (talk) 20:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Request for new article sections
I believe that "Notable Comments" and "Notable Events" sections should be added to the article, similar to the page for the 80th Academy Awards.--Snowman Guy (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is the Seattle Times listing of notable quotes if anyone thinks we can use these.--Snowman Guy (talk) 05:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

"snubbed" films and people
The Controversies section has some alleged controversies in it about people and films that were "snubbed". I think this is garbage and should be removed. The number of nominees is limited to 5 in each category. Of course many people and films are "snubbed". Merely providing an inline citation saying that someone or some film was "snubbed" isn't proof that it's interesting, notable, or a controversy. Tempshill (talk) 20:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hugh Jackman reception
Some of the positive comments about Hugh Jackman's performance should be posted. Presently, only the most negative press comments have been reported on Wikipedia.

Perez Hilton called the performance "wonderful": http://perezhilton.com/2009-02-22-kudos

E! Online said that "Jackman nailed it": http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b100915_Best__Worst_of_the_Oscars_Hugh_Jackmania.html

AP said "the key word was charm": http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hwiPkj4bev1WjqS0L6C2-5REeW1gD96H28FG1

Newsday's reader poll had Jackman with a 66% rating of "Excellent": http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/movies/ny-oscars-jackman-poll,0,1006624,post.poll

Entertainment Weekly's reader poll reported that 70% of readers thought Hugh Jackman should return: http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/02/oscars-09-what.html

Roger Ebert said of Jackman: "I had a feeling Hugh Jackman would be a charmer as host, and he was.", and of the show itself: "It was the best Oscar show I've ever seen, and I've seen plenty."1

"Hurray for the Recession Oscars, the sincerest, sweetest, most heartfelt Oscars ever!"2


 * I really think the reception was more "mixed" than "mostly negative".--Rehumanist (talk) 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that all of the above reviews should be mentioned in the article.--Snowman Guy (talk) 04:54, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Broadcasters
Can we get a full list of television broadcasters of the show? NorthernThunder (talk) 03:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

First since?
This made the telecast the first ceremony to include a short film since the 79th Academy Awards for 2006, which incorporated a short film directed by Errol Morris.

That's just one year without a short film. This statement is overdramatic. It's as if there were 15 years without one. JBFrenchhorn (talk) 23:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Premise
This is a sentence from the section "Premise" : " This made the telecast the first ceremony to include a short film since the 79th Academy Awards for 2006, which incorporated a short film directed by Errol Morris." Huh? This is the 81st ceremony, and it is the first ceremony to feature since the 79th? Doesn't that just mean they skipped a year? Why is the sentence phrased as if to sound like they're doing it for the first time after a hundred years or something? I didn't know if I should remove it, because it obviously made sense to all the editors who have been through it so far. Could someone clear this up for me? Ckannan90 (talk) 13:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Sid Ganis
During the ceremony broadcast, they focused on Sid Ganis and mentioned that he is leaving his position as AMPAS President. Shouldn't this be incorporated in the article somewhere? Thoughts? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC))
 * I think it should be mentioned. It could easily be added to a "Notable events" section once it is created.--Snowman Guy (talk) 18:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

American bias
Baz Luhrmann, who has been dismissed in the past by the Australian media as a postmodern for his adaption William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, put together a performance for Jackman hailing the comeback of musicals. This divided the critics, with one Australian journalist saying it was "perhaps overstated" and others applauding the (apparent) focus upon a younger audience.

My addition to the "other controversies" section has been deleted twice now. Luhrmann is a prominent Australian director, and this is not original research as it was a certain take on film canon. Please explain. Ottre 19:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Performers
Under the "Performers" section, this article refers to James Marvel as "Last-minute addition Violinist". Does anyone know what that means exactly? Does it mean that the show just added him in at the last minute? If so, how do we know that? And, if so, is that important? Can't he just be listed as "Violinist"? I assume that in a live show like this, there are many "last minute" things that happen in order to pull it off ... no? Any insights? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC))

Academy Award for Technical Achievement
The February 7 Technical Awards ceremony is still a part of the 81st Academy Awards. Yet, this article barely mentions it. Is there anywhere that we can find a list of winners? Or more information? Shouldn't this ceremony have more information included in this article, since it is part of the 81st annual Academy Awards? Any insights? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC))


 * I compiled the additional awards for 2008 and will add them to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/81st_Academy_Awards_nominees_and_winners Kid Bugs (talk) 18:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Missing awards
I miss many awards. All the music, sound, technical awards, and the ones for the short movie and short documentary. Did I overlook something, or should I just go ahead adding them? T om ea s y T C 23:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. This article details only the major awards.  There is a separate article that details all of the awards.  As this article states:  This is a breakdown of winners of major awards categories only. For a complete list of nominees and winners, see 81st Academy Awards nominees and winners.  You should find everything you want in that article.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:58, 8 March 2009 (UTC))

Disputes over Heath Ledger's statuette
"Following talks with Ledger's family in Australia, the Academy ruled that his previous domestic partner Michelle Williams could not accept the award as the two were not married. They then decided that Ledger and Williams' three-year-old daughter, Matilda Rose Ledger, would own the award. However, due to Matilda's age, she will not gain full ownership of the statuette until her eighteenth birthday in 2023.[29] Until that time, Michelle Williams will hold the statuette in trust for Matilda.[30] Ledger's family attended the ceremony and his parents accepted the award on stage on his behalf.[31]"

OK, it says that the Academy wouldn't give it to Michelle because she wasn't his legal widow, and then it says that she will hold the Oscar in trust for their daughter. Well, how can she hold it if the Academy ruled she can't have the Oscar on Heath's behalf? Wouldn't his family hold the award in trust until Matilda became an adult, not Michelle? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 03:49, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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Anita Page
Wasn't there a tribute to Anita Page at this oscars? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.210.110 (talk) 03:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

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