Talk:Aqua Teen Hunger Force/Archive 2

Changes
Too much of this article still reads awkward. I've made several changes to the opening few paragraphs, but more can and should be done. --204.52.215.8 22:29, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * oops, i forgot to log in. I'm the guy who made the changes.  --murrayjames 22:31, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Adult Swim: The new face of terrorism! OHNOES!
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21153657-13762,00.html

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/01/31/boston-alert.html

That should really be included in this article. I laughed so hard. If any Americans present are looking for refugee status to escape the seething stupid, I am willing to set up a tent city in my backyard. <3

Shake's Flavor
Shake is described as a pistachio flavored milkshake. Is there any basis to this? If the only rationale is the color of his shake when it comes out of the straw, it could easily be another flavor like mint or something. If no one has evidence to support this line I am going to remove it. -- Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk 22:05, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit- Originally he was chocolate flavored but that was in the pilot. As far as I know his insides are green which is not the color of pistachio but lime or mint.

It varies from episode to episode. In the more recent ones, his insides are blood red.

We're talking about Shake. Do you REALLY want to know what he tastes like??? My guess is something not fir for human consumption --Roninbk 10:25, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

I've added in lime as a possible flavour (gotta cover all your bases!) 09:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It is mentioned in the commentary for Baffler Meal that his flavour was most likely that of lime by the creators, as they cited the chocolate as being regarded too closely reminiscent of fecal matter by some of the people who viewed it. 75.2.15.162 06:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Page is too long.
I'm looking into a way to recify the breach of the 30-something kb limit, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Until this is taken care of Please stop adding content. Thanks.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 07:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Oni, I really appreciate your efforts to trim down and help organize ATHF - it is slowly becoming less of a mess. However, I think the pop culture section is particularly important here. Half of ATHF's relevance is as a semi-underground show. It's absurdity gives it that "old people don't get it" quality which gives other pop cultural appearances almost an easter egg property. (i.e. it says more when young soprano is watching ATHF than if he were watching Friends. Plus, the 32K limit isn't a hard one.  The key is a) is it easily readible and b) is it long because of meaningless info.  I think a) increased organization and b) internal edits like the ones you made, are a better strategy than just cutting out a whole section.  aww 18:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I have noticed a trend which tends to lengthen this page over and over again...and I think the quality of what it adds is dubious at best: there's a tendency to overanalyze characters by applying quotes, as in 'A is generally true, but there was this one time when B was said, and then another episode where C happened'. Ultimately, at its extreme, this becomes 'State everything a character ever said and did, and point out the contradictions.' If an assertion is really that muddled, maybe it shouldn't be said at all, or should be approached as 'Recurring themes which come up with Meatwad are whether he has a brain and whether he has parents.'


 * One point of ATHF is a degree of inconsistency of the characters, and this appears to be a (vain?) attempt to bring meaning to chaos which has little meaning. For example, yes, it's an open question whether Meatwad has parents, but the question has never been answered, and has almost purposely been given multiple answers by the writers. Skybunny 15:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to go through and cut out some of the repetition, examples, and general speculation, but it still needs more work. aww 19:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

if its all relevant info. Who's it hurting? Its not paper. --Xiahou 03:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Correction here
This line seems misleading: Both Plutonians are named after universities in Atlanta (Oglethorpe University and Emory University). Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that they are both named after prominent figures in Georgia history, being John Emory and James Oglethorpe? This makes sense, of course, because ATHF was created and is produced in Atlanta. Any thoughts? Ninja Joey 08:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It could be argued that way, in the "if A=B and B=C then A=C" sense, but I sincerely doubt given the nature of the show that the characters were directly named after the historical figures. In a sense, it would be more misleading to assert the direct connection. --Roninbk 10:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The Plutonians *were* named after Atlanta universities. The creators of the show say this explicitly (and make jokes about it) on the DVD commentary for "Space Conflict From Beyond Pluto" on Vol 1. murrayjames 21:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Change it.

Carl's occupation
I think in the Moonajuana episode, Carl mentions something about working in the styrofoam peanut manufacturing plant. Somebody want to confirm or deny that?

Carl says that he worked in a styrofoam peanut factory. A co-    worker there converted a toilet into a bong and Carl says: 'that bathroom was so awesome in high school.' So one would have to assume that he no longer works there anymore. Also, Carl has stated in a previous episode that he works out of the house. Whether he truly has a job of any sort is debatable. ChairmanSac 22:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Seperate Character Articles
I am not well versed enough in wikipedia to do so myself, but seperate articles for Shake, Frylock, Meatwad, and Carl should be created.

Another article should be created with all the ATHF villains and other various supporting characters. OR seperate articles for the recurring villains/characters (Mooninites, Plutonians, Dr. Weird and Steve, MC PeePants) - Illuminator of the Truth 16:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. This article is one of the worst I've seen for a popular TV show. The character sections are bloated and should be moved to seperate pages (or at least trimmed). At least 75% of the trivia mentioned is irrelevant to a proper understanding of the show. And the plot and character devices listed (from seemingly every episode!) don't belong here either. Why look for character/plot continuity in a show that constantly disregards it??? I'm frustrated :-) --murrayjames 22:51, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't understand the bits that try to devise 'connections' between the episodes either. There are none.  It's Aqua Teen Hunger Force.  Sometimes Meatwad is dumb, sometimes he's smart.  Sometimes Shake is nice, sometimes he's mean.  Sometimes Frylock kills everyone.  IT MAKES ALMOST NO ACTUAL SENSE, PEOPLE MGlosenger 22:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like to see separate pages for the 4 main characters, but the other recurring characters probably should be merged into Minor characters from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It would make the size of this article go down drastically (at this time it's currently 46K, which is too big). -- ZJH 03:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

If I can make a suggestion, I don't believe breaking off articles for separate characters is going to solve the problem under discussion - the growing length of character sections discussion. In fact, I think it's going to worsen the bloat problem. Consider the following inside the 'Carl' section:

''His devotion to the Giants recently surfaced in a Season 5 episode in which Bart Oates (former Giants center) is sent by "the machines" to kill actress Linda Hamilton. Bart tries Carl's patience and takes offense to the "Gnats" jersies that Carl had made by minorities in an illegal attempt to profit off Giants memorabilia.''

If you look at List of Aqua Teen Hunger Force episodes, there are only brief summaries of episodes, most lasting no more than 3-4 lines. Shouldn't most episode specific material be going into that article, rather than into character summaries, leaving the character summaries to focus on trends that last more than one episode?

Also, I've said it before on this talk page, and I will again; trying to create a "fully explained" picture of a character inside a series that deliberately contradicts itself episode to episode is an uphill climb, and could even constitute 'original research' by Wikipedia standards if assertions aren't citable or verifiable across episodes.

''Being made of ground meat, Meatwad is a shapeshifter. He can morph into an igloo, a hot dog, a star, and many other forms, although the hot dog and igloo are his two main shapes. He also has been shown to morph into a large thin square, usually in order to block someone from entering a certain area. On another occasion, he turned into a "meat bridge" for Master Shake. During his time as a circus attraction, he also came up with "Richard Nixon" and "Wayne Gretzky" forms, both of which in fact more closely resemble "Samurai Lincoln," a katana-wielding Abraham Lincoln. Along with his multiple forms, Meatwad can also form triangular arms.''

...so, for an example, is a complete breakdown of every form Meatwad has ever been, one per sentence, really necessary in Meatwad's summary? I would vote for most material like this being moved to episode summaries. If THOSE summaries get huge, individual episodes can get their own articles, too, like South Park has. Skybunny 04:44, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I also think that Shake, Meatwad, Frylock, and Carl deserve their own pages; there's certainly enough material present to warrant the change. C1k3 06:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The point I was trying to make above is that a good share of the "present material" doesn't, in my opinion, belong in the character sections at all. Once the articles are split away, it will probably be harder to do this cleanup because the material will be in multiple locations. I'm not saying the split shouldn't happen, but that a cleanup and reorganization is badly needed before the split. That would make the newly split articles shorter and more concise. I speak from experience saying that pulling material from split articles into a (different) single article is difficult and time consuming. Skybunny 20:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to see the characters have their own pages because they are very complex. - penu1timate

Trivia section may get yanked
If you want to ensure that your edits stay in the article, it would be best if you put the information somewhere under an existing section, or made a new more specific section if it wouldn't fit anywhere.

By definition, trivia is unimportant, and Wikipedia is supposed to be a storehouse of important information. By calling your section 'Trivia' you are saying it's useless. Trivia sections are also inevitably just a big unsorted list of miscellaneous stuff.. again, non-encyclopedic.

MGlosenger 12:08, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Most movie pages have trivia sections; trivia has become an integrated part of Wikipedia.

First episode page
I created the first article for an Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode, Rabbot. Feel free to expand the article; it could use the TLC. All the information that's there already was just pulled from existing articles (copied the "Goofs & Facts" from the main article and the description from the Episode List). --ZJH 12:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Attempt to compact the 'Carl' section
I've made an attempt to compact the 'Carl' section as a potential example for doing some of the others. I tried to use Wikipedia policy to guide me in doing this; please understand that I wasn't removing information with no rhyme or reason in mind.


 * If something in the article reads as speculation and can't be cited, it is speculation, and shouldn't be in the article according to Wikipedia standards. Examples: Carl also has an unseen friend named Terry (apparently a mutual friend of Dr. Weird's). Carl's hair in the flashback looks similar to the wig he bought from the clown society. Please see Wikipedia: Verifiability, and Wikipedia: No original research. Even if 'many' agree on a speculation, it is still a speculation.  More examples: However, in later episodes, Carl seems to have toned down his hostility towards the Aqua Teens and appears to be on better terms with them but still gets annoyed easily.  While seemingly a goof, some could see it as (given the non-sensical and inane nature of the Ghost of Christmas Past's stories) a factual error...  These examples read as 'What somebody thinks', rather than 'a fact' that can be cited.


 * While this is a personal opinion, I don't believe citing every example of something that has ever happened in the series makes a given article better. Wikipedia: fancruft has the following to say about this: It is of course possible to write in great detail on fiction in a way that is factually accurate, espouses the neutral point of view and is not original research, but historically, encyclopedias do this only in the context of representing critical points of view (e.g. when engaged in literary criticism). There were about eight different methods that Carl's house was described as destroyed in this article. It is my belief that two well described examples would be sufficient to make the point. Might it be a better strategy to talk about each case within the episode articles' plot summaries?

To summarize: I made my best attempt to trim the 'Carl' section based on these policies. Much of the 'complication' I saw in Carl's section seemed to be placed there by well meaning edits attempting to provide (ultimately uncitable) detail and speculation about said fictional character. User:Skybunny 23:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Title of Movie
According to a press release that was posted at Aqua Teen Central at, the official name of the movie is now "The Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters." KSweeley 10:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Boston Suspicious Packages 1/31/07
Aqua Teen Hunger Force was part of a bomb hoax in Boston, Massachusetts. The character Err was found on some of the devices.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,249110,00.html lFlippyl 21:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Damn, you beat me to it. -141.157.188.89 21:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Ignignokt was on a couple of them as well. They are right now blaming it on "college kids" and "a website". - SVRTVDude 21:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Fox news (WFXT) just said it was part of an out door marketing campaign by Turner Broadcasting. Looking for a source. --64.119.129.74 21:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Source here - Fox News, restatement from Turner --64.119.129.74 22:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * WBZ Radio just said "Turner Broadcasting System has issued a statement saying the 'were part of a multi-city ad campaign' for a cartoon series."
 * Photos of devices from earlier this year at  --64.119.129.74 22:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I took pictures of a marta station in atlanta with the signs, but I don't know how to add them http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MARTA_ATHF_zoom.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MARTA_ATHF.jpgVampiress144 00:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

How could one clarify this as a hoax when they have been in several cities for almost a month as an ad campaign? A scare is more like it, but a hoax, I think not. --68.209.227.3 02:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * So uh, a hoax is something INTENDED to deceive. Still, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this probably wasn't intended to be a bomb scare for the entire city of Boston, but rather an irregular marketing campaign for Aqua Teen Hunger Force.  Let's strive to be a little more intelligent here.   —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.19.178.125 (talk) 07:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC).

it wasnt a hoax.... OMG moonites flipping their middle finger on CNN ... priceless


 * I watching Adult Swim tonight and they put up a rather long apology (in the form of one of their Bumps) for the whole boston incident, shouldn't that be mantioned in the article? I forget exactly what the apology said, but i'm sure someone else does.151.203.180.63 04:44, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * If you can get exact wording, I say yeah. I would make a subsection under the event header. - SVRTVDude 04:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitly needs to be added to the article, listing the reactions from city officials and news agency on what is basically a clandestine lightbright machine. I still hear they are planning to press charges. For making them look like idiots, presumably. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.142.212.129 (talk) 05:51, 1 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Here's a copy of the [as] bump--the whole apology.  http://i18.tinypic.com/43cno5y.jpg --murrayjames 07:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This report: called "Many young Bostonians think city overreacted" talks about some peoples response to the incident.. in case anyone was interested in reading it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.154.149.2 (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
 * I'd like to see the "We’re the laughingstock", and the "police response “silly and insane" and "In the Seattle area, authorities thought the devices were “obviously not suspicious" parts quoted in the article, but I'm unsure were the info from this report should be placed, so if anyone thinks the info is appropiate, they can figure out where to put it. and add it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.154.149.2 (talk) 02:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

These guys are apparently being charged under [http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/266-102a.5.htm M.G.L. ch. 266 s. 102a.5]. The prosecutors going to need a lot of luck or a very friendly judge to avoid getting this thrown out. There's an unambiguous specific intent element to the crime they're charging these guys with:

Whoever possesses, transports, uses or places or causes another to knowingly or unknowingly possess, transport, use or place any hoax device or hoax substance with the intent to cause anxiety, unrest, fear or personal discomfort to any person or group of persons shall be punished by imprisonment in a house of correction for not more than two and one-half years or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or by a fine of not more than $5,000, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Id. (emphasis added) This is why the prosecutors are going through so many contortions to argue that the light-brites clearly looked bomb-like and anyone would have thought it was a bomb, etc. The reason they're doing this is that they need to show these guys were intentionally placing the devices to cause fear, unrest, personal discomfort, etc.; if the Commonwealth can't show this then it loses, because intent is a statutory requirement. It's not enough that these guys simply were trying to promote a movie or TV show or to create curiosity or "buzz" and that happened to make people panic and spend a lot of money. The judge apparently was (appropriately) skeptical that the prosecutors had evidence of intent. A reasonable prosecutor would realize pretty quickly that they don't have a case, but there's probably a lot of political pressure on this one and they're going to press it (wasting even more taxpayer money) or wait until the media attention dies down and then give these guys a very lenient plea bargain or simply drop the case entirely. If the judge (rightly) dismisses this before then the Commonwealth is going to have even more egg on its face.

emjaycue 03:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Separate Article?
You really can't be serious. This is just a small misunderstanding. This will be forgotten in less than a week. Why does this need a seperate Wikipedia article? I'm sad to say that the AFD for this article is probably going to last longer than the story itself. In fact, I'm officially requesting that article be merged into Aqua_Teen_Hunger_Force. Gdo01 03:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * This is not a small misunderstanding, at least not according to the city officials in Boston, MA. A man has been arrested.  Traffic in a major US city was paralyzed.  Millions of dollars were spent on the response.  It involves a giant corporation.  It speaks to salient issues of contemporary advertising, terrorism, and culture of fear in a post-9.11 world.  Plus (unfortunately), it's probably the most significant thing to happen to this show in its history.  I vote against the merge. --murrayjames 07:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe an early estimate was $500,000 spent on responding and temporarily closing down 2 bridges and an Interstate. Hardly traffic all across the city paralyzed. I agree that it's the biggest ATHF incident ever but it's a show that is relatively unknown anyway. Which is why the characters were mostly unrecognized by citizens. And I'm a fan! STFmaryville 07:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Have you ever been to boston? Believe me, the way that city is layed out, shutting down two bridges and an interstate for even a short time immediately causes a backup into the city from exit ramps, and since the city roads barely ever run parallel in grid formation like most cities, it spreads like a contagion.  Say you pour some grease down your sink drain.  If it clogs in the right place, and you flush your toilet, your bathtub is going to fill with icky-water.  Not that this is extremely related to the notability (I have my answer below for that) but I do believe simply to answer that, shutting down one single bridge abruptly can cause backups throughout that entire city due to its inefficient road layout.--  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 07:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I can see that too....most of the information is exactly the same....the image, links and all. Strong merge. - SVRTVDude 04:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. Just because the information is the same doesn't mean there should be a merge.  You could have a separate article (a daughter article) and have a very short summary here.  Ufwuct 15:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Since the Boston police is looking into holding Turner Broadcasting responsible somehow, and that there has been an arrest under a relatively new and untested (?) Boston law, this probably will be remembered for longer than a week. And this did receive a great deal of continuous coverage on the cable news channels, so it's a pretty notable event that could have long(er)-term ramifications. That said, though, I defer to the Wikipedia editors who handle the ATHF article regularly to do what they see fit. :-) (Disclosure, I was the one who created the page in the first place.) Purifiedwater 04:08, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well WP:CRYSTAL says we shouldn't predict that it will become more notable. I'm not suggesting any info be deleted just that so far this topic does not deserve a separate article. If the incident escalates into something more newsworthy, then we can create a separate article. Gdo01 04:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw one of the displays in Atlanta in December. Despite their locations, this is just an overeaction that may be forgotten (unless they put more focus on the dude who got arrested). This doesn't need a separate article. D4S 04:16, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I do think this incident will have "longer legs" in the media than some people think, especially when it's read in the New York Times today, etc., but definite MERGE for all the reasons stated. STFmaryville 07:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I recommend a let's "wait and see approach." So far the event is teetering on the edge of notability. It is not our job to make any assessments as to how notable it might become. That would constitute at best a violation of WP:NPOV and more likely a case of original research.-- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 07:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I support a merge. While this story involves the police and two arrests, it's still a viral marketing compaign gone wrong. There's similaries between this and the ridicule Sony went through with their botched viral marketing campaign for the Playstation Portable. A simple, well sourced blurb in the main article would suffice. - Throw 09:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I do not support a merge, you don't understand the gravity of the situation and how Boston imploded. There are going to be major lawsuits as a result of this, and the ATHF article is hardly the right place for this. A more centeralized, seperate article is proper. Yank sox  12:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * This was definitely national news on 1/31, and the governor's intervention lends a special significance to the event. Still, it's a little premature to be making predictions of lawsuits or incarceration. I think that a wait and see approach is best, but the current implementation has several flaws. First, the 2007 Boston magnetic light scare is not a good title for the event and it is not accurate (Aqua Teen Hunger Force promotional device bomb scare, or 2007 Boston bomb scare, or something without the term "magnetic light") Second, there should be a succinct summary of the event on this page, posting the full coverage on two pages is not efficient. ¯¯anetode-- 12:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yup I agree with this, it should be seperate and the current title is inaccurate, LEDs are not magnetic. Mike wiki 17:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge. I agree with one previous poster, that this is similar to the The War of the Worlds (radio) hoax (which, as you can see has its own lengthy article). Whatever the final consensus, it is certainly not necessary to merge now; let's wait and see. This was national news and the story still has legs. Officials are talking about fines and prison terms for those responsible. Also, this story was important even before we new of the ATHF angle and is somewhat independent from the ATHF topic. Again, let's wait before a merge. If the story dies down (which it is certainly now nowhere close to doing), then let's reconsider then. Ufwuct 15:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge Keep a summary in the main article, but have a seperate page, so that the main entry does not get oo long.Pumapayam 18:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge This incident has a scope well beyond just ATHF. While this article should mention the event, a separate article that details inevitable fallout concerning Turner and Adult Swim in general is a good idea. Xuanwu 18:50, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge While at some point in the future this might become just a little footnote to ATHF, at this point we don't know which way that cat will jump. While the story is evolving, it is impossible to know what the appropriate context for the story will be. --Thespian 19:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge For many of the reasons already stated.--66.240.89.45 19:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge If it dies down, it can be merged later. Besides, it's gotten so much national attention that it should be a separate article. Maybe the information in this article should be pared down (as it should just be a summary) so that those interested will go to the other article for more information. SailorAlphaCentauri 20:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge I heard about this on talk radio (Ed Schultz), they are discussing it at length and according to a lot of the people he was talking to, there will be some serious legal repurcussions, perhaps even some felony charges.Rglong 20:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oppose merge This is a big story, and a lot of people use wikipedia for in-depth info in news articles. When a user types in " 2007 Boston Light Scare", They'll click on a link about the 2007 Boston Light Scare, Not Aqua Teen Hunger Force. I know thats what I did. I vote to not Merge. Samnuva 21:02, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Do we need yet another article at ATHF Marketing Scandal ?? Can we at least pull that into here? Jjaazz 21:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Now that would seem like a worthy candidate for a merger (into 2007 Boston magnetic light scare, that is). Ufwuct 21:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Mooninites
There's basically no mention of the Mooninites anywhere on the page, except in passing. Searching for Mooninite redirects back to this page. Does anyone else think that they deserve at least their own subsection describing them in more detail? The Plutonions get more detail than the Mooninites, but on the show the Mooninites definitely have greater prominence.Gabefarkas 21:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed the redirect to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. That page does have info on the Mooninites. Gdo01 21:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Shorten the Boston Section
Now that there will be no merge, the section about the bomb scare needs to be considerably shortened, and no further news updates should be added to it at this point. D4S 16:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree 110%. There's no point in having half the article be about something that has it's own article. ZJH 04:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Pat McGroin
This must be a fictitious name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.17.26.4 (talk) 19:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

Chicken Gloves
What's a "chicken glove"? Demian12358 23:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * About three fiddy (ba-dum-bump). 76.18.92.82 06:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Name for bomb scare section
The section name here should include the word advertising in the title to make clear who/what the source of the scare was, i.e. the inciting objects were not made by fans, or by the show itself, so it seems like that bit of extra specificity is important. I changed it to "Boston advertising bomb scare" but I admit it's a little strange sounding, it almost seems like there was a scare regarding an advertising bomb which is of course not the intended meaning. Mike wiki 22:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The bomb scare in Boston was a result of advertising for the upcoming ATHF movie. This article leads the reader to assume that this was a television ratings ploy.

Cancelled
I shte hosw cancelled because of the boston bomb scare or what? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.89.43.27 (talk) 02:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC).


 * I'm assuming you ask "is the show cancelled?" Of course not.  First, Neither Turner, CN, nor AS has said any such thing.  Second, if anything this helped the show and will increase revenue on the movie. --  Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 04:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it hasn't helped the show either. For all the hoopla, it had virtually no impact on ratings at all. aww 16:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Cancelled?
does anyone remember around 3 years ago adult swim had commericals saying that aqua teen was cancelled? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.85.95.162 (talk) 06:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Yeah, they were driving down the road and they spontaneously combusted. Or at least in one of them; I think there was more than one commercial that they played at the time. I think one had Meatwad dancing around and he lit on fire while Frylock and Shake just stared. :: ZJH (T C E) 23:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Boston Reduction
Given that the Boston incident has its own article and there's a chunk of repeated material here, that particular section should be trimmed down to a paragraph. I'll probably take a shot at trimming it down to a summation soonish, but in the interim I invite anyone who thinks that it needs multiple paragraphs in this article to go ahead and speak up. Bitnine 18:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was going to attempt this just yesterday along with all my other little cleanups to the article, but I never got around to it and I've since lost my draft. My version went something like this:


 * On January 31 2007, devices depicting the characters Ignignokt and Err were mistaken as suspicious, prompting authorities in Boston, Massachusetts to close down major road and waterways to investigate. Turner Broadcasting System later admitted placing the devices in Boston and nine other cities as part of a guerrilla marketing campaign for the upcoming movie and apologized for the misunderstanding. Turner Broadcasting has agreed to pay $2 million dollars to settle any criminal and civil claims relating to the incident, and the general manager of Cartoon Network, Jim Samples, has stepped down.


 * Not exactly what I had written down, but pretty close. Feel free to change the section in any way you seem fit, but I think shortening this section would definitely move this article closer to FA status. :: ZJH (T C E) 19:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Frylock in Sealab
In Sealab 2021, episode "Predator". The solution to get rid of the monster was to become really fat, I think. If one looks closely at the assortment of food on the table, Frylock can be seen, (look for a box with french fries that looks like Frylock, maybe on the far corner). Shouldn't that be stated in the "Cameos and appearances" for this article? If someone has the DVD or any other recoded source of the show please check? I think I am right. Speaker180 13:04, 14 August 2007

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