Talk:Brad Ashford

Congressional Photo
Are we not able to get his congressional photo for the infobox? Guyb123321 (talk) 19:20, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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OR removed
I've reverted the addition of "the only incumbent House Democrat defeated by a Republican" to a sentence in the lead regarding Ashford's 2016 loss. The statement is supported by two sources:, which is only a list of members defeated in the general election, with their parties; and , which states "Just one Democratic incumbent had lost by Wednesday, Nebraska's Brad Ashford"; so was apparently written before it became known that Mike Honda had also lost his seat. This apparently prompted the editor who inserted the statement to add "defeated by a Republican", since Honda lost in the general election to another Democrat.

This, I think, is OR. To salvage it, we'd need a statement from a reliable source stating, in so many words, that Ashford was the only incumbent D who'd lost to an R. Otherwise, we could come up with all kinds of demonstrably true but not especially relevant facts: the only candidate whose name began with "A" defeated by someone whose name began with "B", and so forth.

Moreover, even if the statement can be properly sourced, it probably doesn't belong in the lead section, which should be a summary of the most salient facts in the article. Since there doesn't seem to have been a great deal of media attention paid to this fact, it doesn't appear to meet the most-salient test. Ammodramus (talk) 04:41, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Ok I see your reasoning. Ueutyi (talk) 06:01, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * However, I believe there is some merits of keeping the statement that Ashford was the only incumbent Democrat defeated by a Republican in 2016, since such events are generally rare, and Ashford was mentioned to be the only two Democrats who defeated incumbent Republicans two years earlier. By the same logic we should put a reference of Ashford losing in 2016 as the only incumbent Democrat by a Republican somewhere in the article, even if not in intro. Ueutyi (talk) 06:05, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * True re. the 2014 election; I've removed that unsourced statement.
 * I think that in articles on politicians, we need to be very particular about not including statements that aren't well sourced, and that means sourced as to notability and not just to factual truth. Anything else get us dangerously close to WP:SYNTH, and that's a long step in the direction of editorializing: "Of the $NUMBER incumbents who had expressed support for the Affordable Care Act, Ashford was the only one who lost to an anti-ACA challenger" inserted by a pro-ACA editor, for instance; or, undoubtedly, some similar formulation that could be devised by a pro-Republican editor to prove that the American public really supports the R agenda.  To avoid this, we need to rely on the most neutral possible sources to call attention to these statistical facts, and to avoid conclusions of our own, however innocuous they may seem. — Ammodramus (talk) 04:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Have a prosperous new year. Ueutyi (talk) 20:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Brad Ashford
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Brad Ashford's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Results": From 2014 United States House of Representatives elections in Nebraska:  From 2014 Nebraska gubernatorial election:  From 2014 United States Senate election in Nebraska:  

Reference named "primaryresults": From 2018 United States House of Representatives elections in Nebraska:  From 2016 United States House of Representatives elections in Nebraska:  

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:56, 2 August 2019 (UTC)