Talk:Carl XVI Gustaf

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Requested move 13 January 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOWCLOSE. Don't see any reason for this to waste any more time than it already has. (closed by non-admin page mover) estar8806 (talk) ★ 22:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

– No Carl XVIs and Gustaf VIs outside of Sweden per Talk:Charles XI of Sweden. 176.33.241.125 (talk) 18:47, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Carl XVI Gustaf → Carl XVI
 * Gustaf VI Adolf → Gustaf VI


 * Strong oppose They are/were called Carl Gustaf and Gustaf Adolf, respectively, and hence their regnal names are Carl XVI Gustaf and Gustaf VI Adolf. This move request can be closed immediately. --Marbe166 (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. 162 etc. (talk) 19:44, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
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Clarification for amateurs, apparently
So, the long (and partly fictional, as I learned) list of the kings of Sweden uses a peculiar naming system with double given names (but only numbering the first given name)... however, the name of Carl XVI Gustaf has one further peculiar feature: he is the first listed here, in English text as Carl -- instead of Charles. I wonder why? Also, I understand that the names Karl/Carl/Charles are cognates -- but the missing explanation why he is addressed like this (opposed to the approx 15 previous gentlemen named Charles) is striking. Please note, of course, that I might very well be a moron not knowing this but the Internet (google-wise) seems to be not really bothered by the conundrum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.65.37.74 (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
 * It is generally accepted that we do not translate royal names (using English exonyms) after the year 1900, because people then began to gave legally registered names with legal spellings which it no longer would be appropriate to translate. What you may have misunderstood is that none of these men were named Charles but their names were translated in English and French usage. Re: Swedish kings, what also can be confusing is that, in Swedish, they have often been spelled Carl while living, but traditionally Karl after death. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:48, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the extra info! I knew that none of them was named Charles "at home", and the 20th century boundary for non-translation also makes sense, it was just hard to put together the pieces since he seems to be the first in this line to whom all the aforementioned criteria applies. Also, fun fact: in my native language, both the wiki-guideline and the common understanding is that kings and queens are "entitled" to have traditional (and thus, translated) names for continuity sake. 62.65.37.74 (talk) 15:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Pronunciation in Swedish
Re: recent reverts - Wikipedia is not a foreign language school. There is no need to clutter up the opening of any article text with pronunciation that is not relevant to an article in English. How to say Kawhl denn sextohndeh Guhstahf is certainly not relevant. SergeWoodzing (talk) 14:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)