Talk:Emoticon/Archive 2

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o/      Waving with the left arm (person is facing you)

\o      Waving with the right arm (person is facing you)

is wikipedia really the right place for such stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.226.49.235 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 14 February 2005 (UTC)


 * No. I edited the first to say 'waving' and removed the other. I didn't find the edit where these were added, so I'm a bit unsure what was there before, but that can be fixed later, I guess. -- Spug 07:37, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)


 * IMHO, and in the opinion of a lot of people, emoticons are only of any use to (a) children, (b) semi-literates, or (c) people with no sense of irony who can't identify a joke without help. I wouldn't mention this if it wasn't a fairly commonly held view among educated people (although others would perhaps express it differently) - so it probably merits inclusion in the article. Palefire 02:49, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)


 * Emoticons are used to communicate emotions and are used by everyone, from the uneducated and dim-witted to the most intelligent. Emoticons are a casual way of showing how you feel during a conservation, to say they are only used by children or illiterate people is just plain snobbish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.0.32 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 10 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Elitism does not define the correct usage of language. Besides, the internet is full of people who fulfill one or more categories and are extremely argumentative! Trust me, one smiley does not mean your Nabakov reference is lost here :) 213.86.59.92 13:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


 * o/ is an emote used in a lot of IRC channels for HEIL HITLER. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.20.28 (talk • contribs) 02:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Character Emoticons
Shouldn't there be a section for emoticons made with certain uncommon characters, such as :Þ, :&#916;, :&#950;, ... ? &#1090;&#601;z&#1108;&#1090;&#1110; — Preceding undated comment added 19:24, 22 March 2005 (UTC)

East Asian crying
I've been playing online games on servers with shared Japanese populations since 1997, and I've never encountered ;_; for crying, but I saw T_T all the time. I think that might be their choice on sans-serif fonts, as it indicates the eyes closed with tears running out of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.63.249.222 (talk • contribs) 20:39, 14 April 2005 (UTC)


 * I've seen ;_; used by native Korean speakers on Korean-based games before. --Psyk0 12:25, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

SPAM
we have spam on the external links section... like "First and Huge emoticon collection" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.60.224 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

SMILE
Ķσ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.29.39.1 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

RTL Languages
RTL (Right To Left) languages like Arabic use RTL order example:

&#1576;&#1587;&#1605;&#1577; :-) &#1581;&#1586;&#1606; :-( &#1571;&#1607;&#1604;&#1575;&#1615; &#1605;&#1581;&#1605;&#1583; &#1603;&#1610;&#1601; &#1581;&#1575;&#1604;&#1603;&#1567; &#1587;&#1593;&#1610;&#1583; :) &#1571;&#1605; &#1581;&#1586;&#1610;&#1606; :( &#1567;!

Note that the writing order is the same for example: :) is writen : first then ) but because the write direcation is RTL it will look like (:

if write the first example without using   it will look like

&#1576;&#1587;&#1605;&#1577; :-) &#1581;&#1586;&#1606; :-( &#1571;&#1607;&#1604;&#1575;&#1615; &#1605;&#1581;&#1605;&#1583; &#1603;&#1610;&#1601; &#1581;&#1575;&#1604;&#1603;&#1567; &#1587;&#1593;&#1610;&#1583; :) &#1571;&#1605; &#1581;&#1586;&#1610;&#1606; :( &#1567;!

note how it look like in the middel of RTL text

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zayani (talk • contribs) 07:49, 24 June 2005 (UTC)

Is ^_^ an anime smiley?
I've seen ^_^ used in anime otaku circles. I wonder if this should be considered an emoticon. &mdash; Rickyrab | Talk 30 June 2005 03:03 (UTC) and :)


 * Yes, that's definitely an anime emoticon.  ‡   Jarlaxle   June 30, 2005 03:04 (UTC)

Can't see white frowning face (U+2639)
Hey, I can't see the white frowning face (U+2639). I can see both the white and black smiling faces just fine. I am using Windows XP Pro with Internet Explorer 6. When I log on remotely to a Unix machine with Mozilla, I can see the frowning face. I'm guessing this is an issue due to not downloading unnecessary characters. (I can't see any Japanese or Chinese characters, but I'd rather have the 5MB of extra spce on my HDD. 8^) ) I wonder if anyone else with IE has this problem? -Hyad 05:07, July 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Hmm... according to Character Map, it doesn't exist. *does his magic* ☹! Internet Explorer's likely the problem. Trash it and go Firefox. --Ihope127 01:37, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Heavy metal emoticon
(\m/) ^_^ (\m/) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stormwatch (talk • contribs) 02:29, 23 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Now this is a vivid one! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsklee (talk • contribs) 13:40, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

list versus table
Currently emoticons are in a list, and each emoticon is separated by its description with "........", and the descriptions are made to line up in a column. However, alignment of descriptions can be a chore and it can potentially differ depending on OS, browser, and font. So how about using a table instead? Here's an example: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tokek (talk • contribs) 02:47, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Internet slang emoticon migration
The following is a list of emoticons removed from the Internet slang article. Please migrate these to the Emoticon article as appropriate. &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Internet slang emoticons
Commonly-used emoticons include:
 * :) &mdash; Used to express happiness or content
 * :( &mdash; Used to express sadness or discontent
 * :O &mdash; Used to express surprise or a sarcastic display of surprise
 * :/ &mdash; Used to express indifference
 * :o) &mdash; Used to express forum users' ignorance and vanity
 * :D &mdash; Used to express strong happiness or joy
 * >:( &mdash; Used to express strong anger or discontent
 * >:D &mdash; Used to express malicious joy
 * >:) &mdash; Used to express malicious contentment
 * :| &mdash; Used to express a "blank face" i.e. emotionless face or stare
 * -__- &mdash; disgusted, annoyed, etc.
 * -.- &mdash; disappointment, frustration, etc.
 * ^o^ &mdash; laughing, cheerful, joyous, similar to ^^
 * ^^__^^ &mdash; Angel
 * (^_^) &mdash; Happy face
 * [*_*] &mdash; Scared, in awe
 * &gt;&lt;)))*&gt; &mdash; something appears fishy
 * =^__^= &mdash; Cat face, blushing
 * -^__^- &mdash; Blushing
 * ^__^' &mdash; Embarassed, "Sweatdrop", common among anime fans
 * ^__^; &mdash; Embarassed, "Sweatdrop" common among anime fans
 * nn\\//o {|^.^|} o\\//nn &mdash; Headphone listening (peaceful)
 * \nn/ {|^.^|} \nn/ &mdash; Headphone listening (intensively)
 * ^///^ &mdash; Another form of blushing
 * =_= &mdash; tired, with bags under eyes
 * &lt;^__^;&gt; &mdash; symbol for embarrassment commonly used by anime fans
 * _|_ &mdash; an offensive emoticon signifying the middle finger
 * _W_ &mdash; "Whatever", "I do not care"- often used with...
 * _M_ &mdash; "Minger".
 * &#8249;^&#8250; &mdash; another form of the middle finger
 * nn ^_^ nn &mdash; classic double finger
 * ..i.. &mdash; yet another form of the middle finger (often seen in pairs)
 * ..!., &mdash; another form of the now infamous middle finger
 * mln &mdash; the robken version of the middle finger
 * t('-'t) &mdash; Flipping off with both hands (the "double deuce").
 * &lt;3 &mdash; "love"; ASCII art for a heart, the less-than symbol and the three resemble a heart tilted on its side.
 * &lt;/3 &mdash; "hate"; ASCII art for a broken heart, similar to &lt;3.
 * == &mdash; agreement; from the C equality operator; means "me too" or "what he said"
 * != &mdash; disagreement; from the C inequality operator; means "is not (necessarily) the same as" Sometimes also written as =/= as in mathematical notation.
 * ++ &mdash; Used after the manner of the C operator to indicate something "one greater" than itself, for example: "Awesome++"; also used similarly to the "doubleplus" prefix in Newspeak.
 * -- &mdash; Opposite of ++, indicating something "one less" than itself.
 * @ &mdash; "at". Some users go so far as to replace all "at" sounds in words with @, so "that" becomes "th@" and "cat" becomes "c@", for example. This occurs relatively rarely.
 * * (asterisk) &mdash; applied around a word or phrase to indicate emphasis or italics, or just typing in bold face. Singly, in chat, in front of a word or phrase at the beginning of a line means a correction to one's own previous typo. It recently started being used for an action. E.G *Jumps up and down*
 * _ (underscore) &mdash; similar to asterisk, but means underlining of a word or phrase. For example, "Do you _really_ think that?"
 * / (forward slash) &mdash; indicates italicized text, similar to the underscore for underlined text
 * -0_o- &mdash; an emotion expressing confusion, shock, drunkenness or a "high" state
 * 0.o &mdash; an emoticon expressing confusion or shock, signifying the user saying "WHAT!?!?"; also designating a drunken or high state
 * d(-_-)b &mdash; a face with headphones on that indicates listening or chilling out to music
 * Ô_ô &mdash; an emotion expressing confusion, shock, drunkenness or a "high" state
 * 9_9 &mdash; rolling eyes, used to express annoyance
 * XD &mdash; Laughing, Crossed Eyes
 * XP &mdash; Sticking Tongue Out while Laughing, crossed eyes
 * :O &mdash; "Oh" Emoticon
 * :O~ or *_* &mdash; Drooling/Admiring, foaming from the mouth. Commonly used when admiring something.
 * \o/ or \^o^/ &mdash; the 'yayman'. One can replace "o" with a happy emoticon graphic; and/or the "hand" with 'b' for a thumbs-up.
 * /o\ &mdash; more or less the opposite of the yayman, here the figure puts his hands on his head: 'Oh no!'
 * !!!111!!!11!!!11One &mdash; making fun of a noob, who may type this way.
 * !?!? or ?!?! or !? or ?! &mdash; showing surprise and confusion; can also represent anger or speachlessness depending on context.
 * ajkaf;lsdjfjdskl;afj (any random string of lowercase characters, usually from the keys in home position on the keyboard) &mdash; hysterical laughter or retardedness (implied of the recipient, or "I've jsut done something stupid)
 * (Y) &mdash; female genitalia
 * (.)(.)&mdash; breasts. One can replace the central ")(" with "Y" and/or represent nipples with "o" (large) or "*" (augmented).
 * 8==D; &mdash; male genitalia
 * {}==[]:::::::::::::::&gt; &mdash; sword
 * &gt;&gt;&gt; &mdash; arrow
 * \m/ (>.<) \m/ &mdash; somone
 * (_(_) or (_)_) &mdash; "mooning" someone
 * (_!_) &mdash; Nice Ass                                                       This site is inappropriate
 * `(]:{o &mdash; a French person (hence mustache) with a beret (optional)
 * <<^^>>vv &mdash; an eye roll.
 * E] - :-) =&mdash; expired
 * o_O or O_o &mdash; a confused look, the one larger eye represents a raised eyebrow.
 * o_o &mdash; an amazed look, usually exclaiming "wow", but not necessarily specifying an opinion on the subject
 * -.^ &mdash; A wink or an annoyed eyebrow.
 * +<|:-) &mdash; The Pope

<3 "invented by Rory Carson"?
I've removed the information about some chap called Rory Carson inventing the <3 symbol in 2002: it seems a little dubious to me, and I can't find any information about this amazing discovery anywhere else. Is there a reliable source for this datum? &alpha;&gamma;&delta;&epsilon;&epsilon; (&epsilon; &tau; c) 20:57, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
 * No. I used (and saw used) <3 before then, and that is invalidated by information in the article. --BDD 13:31, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Perhaps...the chap is from another planet and it was something like...you know, reinvented the wheel...:-)--JohanL 18:44, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Quick edit
The East Asian Style section really needs to refer to the Shift-JIS_art wiki article. Made minor revision to that effect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.82.81.30 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Posture emoticons
Why are the examples of “posture emoticons” exclusively of masturbation? —Frungi (not logged in) 24.51.217.233 04:20, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Complex examples
Something seems to have deleted most of these. MrVacBob 02:20, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

colonless smileys

 * A few people turn the smiley around, a "left handed" smiley (: This left-handed smiley can sometimes cause miscommunication though, since some hardcore net addicts tend to drop the : representing the eyes [leaving ) instead of  :) ] so what was intended to be a smile could be interpreted as a frown.

Is this actually true? I have never seen this. I know people do left-handed smiley's, but do people ever leave out the ':' character? Gerrit CUTEDH 20:35, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

History of :|
I think this section is really unnecessary. It's rather uninformative and, to me (an internet junkie), it seems dubious, non-notable at best. Thoughts? -- Hinotori 10:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Went ahead and removed it, but I added a "sarcasm" usage to the :-| emoticon in the table. I think that should work fine.
 * -- Hinotori 15:52, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Major error
The Lili reference was actually talking about the smiley, not about emoticons. This part of the Emoticon article has been referenced many times by outside sites and incorrectly made people think that the emoticon was around before computers. Another reason why Wikipedia, even if it were fully referenced, is still fallible. Ashibaka tock 03:36, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Regarding my changes
First of all, Anime style emoticons are used in many, many places, not just "anime forums." So I made a note of that.

Secondly, many anime style emoticons are often called "Kirbies," not just <(^_^)>. So I made that a note in the introductory section as well. (And it is notable as there are many people who refer to them as "Kirbies").

Thirdly, there was some inconsistency in the way the emoticons were presented so I changed them all to using parentheses and underscores when applicable and made a note in the intro that braces (for the outline) and periods and hyphens (for the mouth/nose) could be used as well.

Fourth, I moved some complex and basic emoticons back and forth. There were a few that weren't where they should have been.

Fifth, I moved the "Basic Examples" text to the "Anime Style" intro because it applies to both sections.

-- Hinotori(talk) 15:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)