Talk:Eschatology

Hindu Theology
This article has Shiva destroying after Kalki has cleaned house at the end of Kali Yuga and then creating the next go-round. My understanding is that Shiva's 'job' is to destroy everything so that Brahma can start creation. I'm not an expert in the Vedas but some clarification should be sought. --Piepie (talk) 08:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * By my superficial reading, it appears Shiva is an incarnation of Kalki. -- Beland (talk) 03:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hinduism is not a coherent religion, it has many and often conflicting teaching/s narratives. (That's because it didn't really exist until the 19th century, when Westernised Brahmin intellectuals felt the need to systematise the religion in order to be "modern". Something very similar happened in Theravada Buddhism, successfully in Thailand, not so much elsewhere). Achar Sva (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Other non-mainstream belief systems?
I for one would like to see this page talk about less well-known eschatology beliefs. For example, the Hopi Indians, the Magic Bill Community, etc. There is a lot of great info there. What say you people? --HelsonBeado (talk) 11:09, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * That'd be great, but it'd have to be well sourced. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:05, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I feel that this page should be left for major world religions, or generalities within spiritual movements, wikipedians looking for further information would do well to research the individual religions themselves. Anthalamo (talk) 08:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree that not including indigenous religions, and the complete lack of coverage of American, African, and Australian religions (even if only in aggregate) is a sign of systematic bias we should work against. I couldn't find any info on Hopi mythology about their eschatological beliefs, and I couldn't find any info on Wikipedia about "Magic Bill". I've tagged the article and hopefully knowledgeable editors can fill in the blanks with well-source pointers. -- Beland (talk) 04:44, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Modern eschatologies?
The introduction has the sentence: "Most modern eschatology and apocalypticism, both religious and secular, involves the violent disruption or destruction of the world, whereas Christian and Jewish eschatologies view the end times as the consummation or perfection of God's creation of the world." a) What modern religious eschatologies are we referring to? b) The only instance we mention that could be construed to be modern secular eschatology is Marxism (though that's not so modern in my view). Is that single case sufficient support for this statement? Joja lozzo  22:36, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * This text has since been removed from the article. So has any reference to Marxism, which as far as I can tell does not have anything to do with the end of the world. -- Beland (talk) 04:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Eschatology equivalents in science and philosophy
The section Eschatology equivalents in science and philosophy

has no reference to a single philosopher ( I suppose someone will scurry to find a quote from Heidegger and then argue that he was a philosopher of science )

There are no discussions of eschatology in philosophy since the rise of modern science outside "philosophy of religion" unless you look in the likes of Paul Ricoeur.

What PhD Comprehensive exams in astronomy have included even the question "What is meant by eschatology in theology ?"

Best bet: define what you mean by "equivalent" and find a philosopher and scientist with a refereed publication defending that claim.

Lots of luck outside "Southern Journal of Philosophy" et al.

99.245.191.116 (talk) 20:20, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Order of religions in Linear section
The various religions seem to be treated alphabetically; surely it would be better to do it chronologically, since there's a clear evolution from Judaism (the 2nd temple period) to Christianity to gnosticism to Islam? Achar Sva (talk) 23:17, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree with the observation and I completely endorse the suggestion to organize the list chronologically rather than alphabetically. warshy (¥¥) 16:31, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe it is pretty much done. I can't believe how easy it was. Wiki technology is really something else!... warshy (¥¥) 17:27, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Not so fast. The Christianity thing is rather large, and includes all those small additions at the end. And the entire Christianity thing comes, obviously, before Islam, Bahai, and Rastafari. Now it may be done. Thank you, warshy (¥¥) 17:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Article issues and classification

 * The article fails the B-class criteria (#1, #4, and #6) as there are unsourced statements (#1) in 2012, 2019, 2020, and may contain original research (2016), among other things. Reassess article to C-class. --  Otr500 (talk) 07:57, 19 February 2023 (UTC)