Talk:Glen Waverley line

Year open
The year open in the info box is 1950, yet the stations opened in 1930, or to Darling by 1895. Perhaps they didn't run trains? --Michael Johnson 06:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Line guide
Hi all, I noticed that there is no line guide under the line guide section. Could someone please add one? Thanks LivingInTwilight (talk) 05:10, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 10 August 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (The only objections were about Sunbury line. Those have been resolved with the RM at Talk:Sunbury Line (Norfolk Southern).) (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 14:54, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

– Multiple melbourne train line articles were moved from railway line to just line as per WP:Commonname however most were kept as railway line, this move discussion is to move the 11 articles that weren't moved previously. NotOrrio (talk) 01:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Glen Waverley railway line → Glen Waverley line
 * Sandringham railway line → Sandringham line
 * Frankston railway line → Frankston line
 * Stony Point railway line → Stony Point line
 * Belgrave railway line → Belgrave line
 * Lilydale railway line → Lilydale line
 * Hurstbridge railway line → Hurstbridge line
 * Upfield railway line → Upfield line
 * Flemington Racecourse railway line → Flemington Racecourse line
 * Sunbury railway line → Sunbury line
 * Williamstown railway line → Williamstown line


 * Support per COMMONNAME. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:16, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per COMMONNAME. HoHo3143 (talk) 07:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: I feel like Sunbury line (Melbourne) and Sunbury Line (USA) are too similar, and could easily be confused with each other. Fork99 (talk) 07:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fork99 the one in the USA is just a freight line (from a quick look) so the one in Australia arguably more important. We could add a note saying "this is the one in Australia..." or something else. HoHo3143 (talk) 07:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The hatnotes already exist, just concerned about the names. Me personally, I would prefer Sunbury line, but if there’s enough ambiguity nor a clear primary topic, we might have to call it Sunbury line, Melbourne and the other one in line with however America does disambiguations, probably with parentheses. Fork99 (talk) 07:42, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fork99 I'm ok with the, Melbourne if it has to be done and the way that the Americans do it for their article. HoHo3143 (talk) 07:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * We need to address this issue of Sunbury using our own document, WikiProject Australian Transport/Naming convention and guidelines. -- ThylacineHunter  (talk) 13:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per above: Just wondering as a side question, are we (WP:AUSTS) planning on doing the same for Sydney, South East Queensland and Adelaide? For Sydney, since it also numbers its suburban lines, i.e. T1, T2, and so on, should those be part of the article name as well? Fork99 (talk) 08:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm planning to do Adelaide soon then Brisbane later. Sydney will need to be looked at for longer seeing as the situation there is a bit more complicated. Steelkamp (talk) 14:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support all except Sunbury; we shouldn't play around with capitalization as the sole difference. The US article is capitalized because "Sunbury Line" is considered a proper name, though that's vulnerable on MOS:CAPS grounds. I suggest making Sunbury Line part of this move request, with Sunbury line (Australia) and Sunbury Line (United States) as title. Mackensen (talk) 10:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Mackensen: Side note: we don’t use parentheses for dabs in Australia, the usual convention would be Sunbury line, Melbourne. Would Sunbury Line (Norfolk Southern) work in addition to Sunbury Line (United States), with one of them redirecting to the other, if required? Fork99 (talk) 10:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Fork99 Sunbury line, Melbourne in my opinion is better as it highlights the location better. I don't really care what the name of the article in the US is so long as it isn't just Sunbury Line (it needs something at the end). HoHo3143 (talk) 10:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, another thing about this is if Sunbury railway line and/or Sunbury Line / Sunbury line become a dab page, all links pointing to them will need to be changed to the respective new name. I can help with these AWB edits if needed. Fork99 (talk) 11:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If that's the convention in Australia then sure, and Norfolk Southern is probably a better dab in that case. Mackensen (talk) 11:24, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support as per COMMONNAME. I've got some examples from government and non-government sources following to show the proposed moves follow COMMONNAME. The following examples are for the Glen Waverley line, but each of the lines in this RM are similar.      . Steelkamp (talk) 13:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per above. Also I propose Flinders Street railway station and all other station articles in also drop the "railway", literally nobody I've ever heard refers to any of them with "railway" in the name (On a side note:I would argue that "train station" has always been more common than "railway station", but simply "station" is most common). -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 01:40, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Champion: We’d need broader consensus for that, plus we’d need to do that for every single railway station in Australia. I wouldn’t mind this to be honest. Though, we do seem to follow how the Brits and Kiwis do it, but if this were to happen, we’d then be following what the Americans do for their “stations”. Fork99 (talk) 01:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Despite the title of the aforementioned article, the lede sentence does describe FSS as a train station. -  C HAMPION  (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
 * There's no real uniformity on that. For example, Austrian and Swiss stations are "railway station", but German stations are just "station". Mackensen (talk) 03:28, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah I agree with would be a good idea, but it would take a lot of effort. In Melbourne for example, there's 220+ stations on the metropolitan network... HoHo3143 (talk) 03:30, 12 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @NotOrrio forgot to mention this but could we also include V/Line services in this? e.g. commuter services (like Geelong or Aarat) and intercity/long distance (Warrnambool, Maryborough). HoHo3143 (talk) 03:20, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I would do those in a separate RM, because many people have already commented here without considering those articles, and those articles are under different circumstances which merit their own conversations. Steelkamp (talk) 03:52, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Steelkamp yeah that's a good point. Maybe we can do it once this has finished and been completed. HoHo3143 (talk) 04:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:COMMONNAME. Alamein line already follows this principle. 🌶️Jalapeño🌶️ Don't click this link! 14:24, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Side note: that’s because only a few weeks ago, it was called Alamein railway line. This request is for the rest of Melbourne’s lines I believe. Fork99 (talk) 14:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.