Talk:Grey DeLisle

Grey's Last Name
How do you pronouce Grey's last name?--70.58.240.56 19:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Who cares?
Smith Jones 20:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I care! I wrote that post! Anybody?--70.58.240.56 02:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Apparently, it's pronounced "DeLyle" Zidane4028 09:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

@Smith Jones, it was a valid question.75.190.150.3 (talk) 16:01, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:BLP
There's a big dustup about citation on Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Although I am among many opposing an editors behavior with regard to the policy, the debate was on my mind when i bounced to this page. Because this page specifically mentions some trauma in childhood and career difficulties, I believe that regular editors should find citations for this page. I'll try to look in in a week's time to check on this. If no progress has been made, I'll tag, then escalte as needed after that. If the matter is resolved in the week, I'll thank you all and go away. ThuranX 19:47, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Ambiguous pronoun
In second sentence under 'Trivia", who is 'she'? Ms. DeLisle or Ms. Strong? --86.91.42.242 03:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Note from Grey
I am friends with Grey and she wanted me to post something about her birthday because everybody keeps changing it to one that is not right. Right now it is right but me are Grey feel they are going to remove it again. i posted a statement from Grey to l wiki members and an admin removed it because they call it nonsense!! Grey wants it there. Can I repost it there and if yes how can i post it without getting removed again.- Sheila

AnyBody?-Sheila

Searches at Intelius for "Grey DeLisle" and "Erin G Van Oosbree" both corroborate DeLisle's assertion through her official myspace site of a 1973 birthyear and refute IMDb's incorrect Aug 12, 1972. Intelius is a respected for-profit public records database. ClaudeReigns 22:55, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I have to pay to look at that site. I tried to fix it on IMDB but they keep inoring it. I am telling you the truth that I am friends with Grey DeLisle. -Sheila

That's awesome that you're friends with Grey. It doesn't help with the whole sourcing standard at wikipedia (we can't accept your word as Gospel if you just say "Grey told me") but it does help greatly in verifying our information. But anyone can use the basic search feature at Intelius which verifies a person's age. Grey is clearly 33 and not 34 according to all the public records which they possess under both her birth and present names. So the 1973 birth is correct, and I will continue to revert edits based on the mistaken 1972 date. We do need to support ALL statements in a Wikipedia article with sources, especially since Grey is a living person. There's a lot here that isn't sourced and we need to be able to point to articles, interviews, and such as verifiable sources of fact. Let me know what reliable, verifiable sources you can pull together and I will keep looking from my end. ClaudeReigns 10:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for that!! I know that is hard to believe somebody who comes up to you and say they are friends with a famoud person amd Grey wanted me to point that out that the internet has her born August 12, 1972!! Thanks for you help!! I forgot to also tell you that I run Grey's Official MySpace Page -Sheila

Hey, I want to say that we should definitely keep an eye on Grey's official website for resume-type stuff. Just found some things we can add there. The official pages are "primary sources" which can be used for one thing: establishing the notability of the subject. So now I'm going to add some citations, too! ClaudeReigns 11:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much for everything!! One little problem problem with the official site, It has not been updated in months, It does not say anything about Jefferson Texas Hammond, Her new son. -Sheila

Messed Up
I messed up on the side bar for Grey!! I wanted to changethe color and i can put it back to were it was before!! Can somebody help me with that!! -Sheila

Citations and Tone
There are a few statements which I can still not cite reliably.
 * "Since 1998, Grey DeLisle became one of America's most beloved and well-respected voice actresses."
 * "She has even learned how to speak Japanese, thanks to fellow voice actors Janice Kawaye and Keone Young, for her role as Yumi on Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi." (Although I did confirm through a magazine article that those are her co-stars on that show and that the cartoon features Japanese singing) A statement of notability such as "Grey DeLisle is one of few Americans working as both a voice actor and vocalist in Japanese for musical anime, as evidenced by her work in Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi" could be included based only on content from a primary source like an official website.  Hint Hint.

These citations originate here and although the article has an impeccable 10.0 rating on that website, user reviews are not considered encyclopedic for our purposes. All statements originating there should definitely be examined for encyclopedic tone. We may have to consider removing unsourced peacock terms like "most beloved" and "well-respected" even though within the small voice acting community it certainly is true. WP:V states clearly that statements need to be both true AND verifiable.


 * Statement about friendship with Tara Strong almost certainly true, but I cannot find a published source to say so.
 * And statements about Tex's birth are only confirmed by the Official MySpace page.

Primary sources like an official page are only useable for certain statements of notability. See WP:V. Any secondarily published sources, even through Sugar Hill Records or Sandie Schnarr Talent, for example, will do for a secondary source for facts and quotes surrounding Tex's birth. I would really hate to see any the facts and agreeable opinions present in the article removed for lack of sourcing. Let's try to come up with what we can right away. ClaudeReigns 10:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Wait are u trying to say that we are lying about Tex? Murry has pics of him on his myspace and Grey's and her official site has not been updated im months.-Sheila

No, silly, read me again. I'm saying it's true but it also needs to be verifiable through the Wikipedia sourcing rules. The myspace sites don't represent independent fact-checked sources. If we can't source these properly, then anyone can come by and delete anything that hasn't been sourced according to WP:V. I don't want that to happen and that is why I'm asking for your help. ClaudeReigns 13:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Ronaldscott reveals himself
I'm the one who restored the verify and advert tags yesterday. Apologies for not logging in. While much cleanup has taken place, there is still a great deal of content that prevents this article from being regarded as a legitimate encyclopedia article: -- Ronaldscott 22:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
 * "Grey DeLisle had a difficult childhood" -- POV
 * "DeLisle was heavily into goth bands like The Cure" is unsourced and is also irrelevant
 * "In her comedy routine, DeLisle was able to imitate voices very well" -- POV
 * "one of America's most beloved and well-respected voice actresses" -- POV, this is also povasserted but I list it here for the sake of completeness
 * "She has even learned how to speak Japanese" -- the word "even" presents tone problems, it qualifies as a superlative in this case.
 * "They were even featured in an episode of" -- again the word "even" presents tone problems
 * "On January 31, 2007 their first child Jefferson Texas "Tex" Hammond was born at 6:00PM (PST) in Los Angeles, CA. At birth, he was 20 inches long and weighed 7 lbs., 8 oz." -- this is an irrelevant biographical detail. The exact time of the child's birth and his birth weight is far too much detail and again makes this article appear to be a fan page.
 * "Many thanks for all of the love and good wishes..." -- this has absolutely no place in this article. It does not inform and is irrelevant.  It belongs on a fansite or an official site, not an encyclopedia article.

Ronald, Steve Leggett seems to be an active, notable, and often-cited reviewer in the music industry. If you think his claims are POV we can certainly attribute them, but remember, this ain't science, it's entertainment. The biographer's assessment of Delisle's childhood and voice impressions ought to stand as is. I will strike incidences of "even" as per your concerns. I'm waiting for Sheila to possibly bring other citations before striking other entries here. I consider motherhood to be a significant biographical detail, and Delisle's perspective on it to be unique among female professionals. There's an upcoming interview that will probably suffice for citation on all these facts here. I'll strike the fanlove from the quote, but her perspective on working while pregnant ought to stay. ClaudeReigns 14:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I was going to strike the first part of the quote, but after looking closely, my attempts to make the statement clear about her perspective on working in 'Toonland' are horribly choppy without the full quote. You may feel that it is a bit warm and fuzzy, but it does have an encyclopedic function, and for lack of a better edit, I'm letting it stand and supporting it. I'm curious about your unstated PoV. Do you work for a Hollywood agency? Your userpage is awfully... mysterious. Your IP address was also mysteriously French (suggests a proxy). Specifically, it'd be helpful to know if you've worked for any agencies that have targetted voice actors for violation of non-compete clauses or a game company in competition with products which bear Delisle's voice. (Moby Games has had a developer named Ronald Scott) Though you claim your account is "to fix minor grammatical errors and revert vandalism." your contributions are scant at best for a Wikipedian knowledgeable enough to issue a "final vandalism warning". What gives? ClaudeReigns 15:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

For Pete's sake
Let's leave conspiracy theory out of it. I'll address your points one at a time and you can make up your mind.

First of all, I am not challenging the factual statements in the article. Steve Legget's credibility is not at issue; it is the word "difficult" in reference to her childhood and the words "very well" in reference to her abilities as a voice imitator that I take issue with. You will not that Legget himself writes in a less POV style than this article; striking the statement that Ms. DeLisle had a difficult childhood, and modifying the statement that she could imitate voices "very well" to something referring to her natural ability would probably address my concerns for those two items.

The reference to "goth bands like The Cure" is biographically irrelevant according to Wikipedia biography standards, which call for biographies to only include information that is, and I quote, "relevant to the subject's notability." I don't think that her musical interests as a young person are relevant to her notability, which stems from her profound ability. Nor is the statement sourced; it appears to be original research, which is obviously verboten.

Of course motherhood is significant; the baby's exact dimensions and time of birth to the minute are not relevant to Ms. DeLisle's notability. They should be struck. Surely you don't really believe those belong in an encyclopedia article; if you do, I can only appeal to tradition. If you could provide other highly-regarded articles that include details of that nature it's possible I could be convinced.

A direct, unsourced quote, regardless of its subject, also has no place here. Source it, and it can stay, though it probably should be modified to a statement regarding the quote rather than the quote itself. Otherwise you're on pretty thin ice in leaving it here.

Lastly, regarding your questions about my pedigree: I am a completely professionally disinterested software developer working in Portland, OR (and I'd be happy to provide more detail to you outside of Wikipedia, perhaps via email or IM, if it's necessary to establish my identity to your satisfaction.)  I happen to be a fan of both DeLisle (mostly because of her work on Avatar and Clifford) and Wikipedia; I'd like her article to not be a disgrace on herself or her fans. My IP isn't French; it's Canadian. My corporate internet connection (I was editing from work) runs through our Vancouver, BC office. Lastly regarding my account and my contributions, the vast majority of my edits are not attributed. I often edit without being logged in. I chose to log in for this discussion. And as far as my knowledgeableness regarding the final warning I issued to that renob vandalizing various pages, I simply read the policy regarding vandalism notices and followed it. If you'll notice, the recipient had received several warnings prior to mine and the final notice was warranted.

I am contributing in good will; let's work together and get this right. Ronaldscott 21:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Examine if you will Bach and his walk on foot described in his article. Nothing notable about it. It's just crucial to understanding who he is. The Beatles were influenced by skiffle music. Nothing notable about that either. It's just good biography--helping the reader understand the notable subject. You are quite simply wrong about biography being limited to statements of notability. That is only true for primary sources and not secondary sources.

The details about the baby were already trimmed down by me before your last Talk post. Knowing that you have a passion for protecting against vandalism is important. Why not help out by getting this page protected? Maybe you can ask the administrator that ridiculed Sheila's attempt to correct previous misinformation in the article. If you have something useful to add in namespace, be bold. I think I'll pass on sharing the conclusions I've drawn. Your use of a proxy (and dishonest explanation ) makes me less concerned about responding point by point. I've used what suggestions you've made which seem helpful, and cheerfully ignore the rest. Please note: I am in no way interested in pursuing an email relationship with you. Thank you. ClaudeReigns 05:18, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Passive-aggressive snark is inappropriate. I have not attacked and do not intend to attack you. Please don't respond by assuming I'm dishonest. I repeat: I didn't use a proxy. I simply edited from work. Perhaps Monday when I go in I'll run a tracert and figure out why it's coming out in France. We're a large, transnational corporation and we have have a French office. It's possible that somehow I'm getting routed through it. What, perchance, do you feel I'd have to gain by using a proxy? What edits have I made that make you suspect bad will on my part? It's not as if I'm attacking the subject's character or questioning her ability or stated body of work.

In any case I've been nothing but civil and will continue that policy.

I will not argue the point of notability, because it's contentious in a far greater sphere than this one. We'll get nowhere on that. It was a mistake to bring it up, and as of now I drop it.

As for the points about POV and poorly-sourced or unsourced claims, these are factual and stand on their own merit. There are many unsourced claims in this article by any established standard. I refer you to WP:BLP, which as an experienced editor you are no doubt already familiar with. Biographies continue to be a sensitive subject; they are the subject of much stricter control than other areas of Wikipedia. Rather than following the recommended standard, which calls for immediately deleting poorly-sourced and unsourced claims, I attempted to engage the historical editors, including yourself.

Similarly, there are many statements in the article which express an subjective opinion about Ms. DeLisle's life, career, or ability. These are by definition POV statements. I believe they violate WP:NPOV. As an example, do you truly believe the statement "Grey DeLisle had a difficult childhood" is NPOV?

In any case I will limit my contributions here to grammar corrections until consensus is reached, if you will engage me without accusation. Ronaldscott 05:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

A biographer has the privilege and prerogative of making the assessment that a subject had a difficult childhood, without going into the details that less notable essayists have about alcoholism and abandonment on the part of her parents. Were those sources citeable, they would instead be included with more particulars. The biographer instead it seems chose to treat the subject with less detail and some sensitivity. That is why he's paid to do what he does and we are not. If you choose to mention the particular biographer and quote his specific assessment to ensure proper attribution of a statement you consider PoV, you're welcome to. Your concern here is with tone. Feel free to edit tone. I will act as a content defender with all sources I deem to be verifiable including... ClaudeReigns 06:33, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I also agree with the removed "beloved and well-respected" assessment. I hope I'm not coming off like a DeLisle basher. What brought me to this page in the first place was my respect for her incredible range and ubiquity. I feel like my kids have grown up with Grey DeLisle performing a starring role in their lives. Ronaldscott 07:30, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Grey Delisle's Official MySpace Page
Owing to the exceptional development that several sources previously thought to be reputable (imdb in particular) are now proven to be unreliable for the purposes of establishing fact about Grey Delisle, I recommend that at our earliest convenience that we ask for a white-in of this website for purposes of citing statements of fact about the subject. While I acknowledge that assessments and bias from this website are unapologetically PoV and not to be used, Grey Delisle's Official Myspace Page has been the most helpful source of events, and surprisingly verifiable. Verifiability is the bottom line for inclusion of material into Wikipedia. It was ignored here before with predictable results. The facts concerning the recent birth of Tex are immediately verifiable by the provision of a photograph by the family--and the release of a statement accompanying it implies direct consent by the subject, Grey Delisle, which should satisfy any doubts that those words were written by the subject. So it's true and verifiable. But is PoV a concern? The source, Grey Delisle's Official MySpace Page, did make a statement about those words. Those comments were striken in favor of a more neutral tone by simply attributing the words to Delisle. The words are in quotes and not represented as neutral. Finally, notability is important. It isn't a requirement for secondary sources which fact-check (and we are definitely asserting that the site has proven to be the most reliably fact-checked source). The event of a birth is conceded as notable by the infobox itself. Because the event is notable and we have a factual statement surrounding that event (Grey did say those words about that notable event) the quote is to be included. Note that we never do rely on Grey Delisle's Official MySpace Page to provide us with criteria about what is notable. We merely rely on its two editors to tell the truth and provide factual information. All opinion contained within, however, is to be counted as such and not encyclopedic. ClaudeReigns 06:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Deleted unsourced material. All statements in the article should now be sourced and verifiable. It fulfills NPoV to my satisfaction. ClaudeReigns 07:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!!! -Sheila

Birthday Changed Again
somebody changed her birthday again and I fixed it but is there anyway that nobody can change it again. -Sheila

They did it again!!! Can somebody stop this please? Her Birthday is August 12, 1972 but people keep changing it to August 24, 1973 which is wrong!!! -Sheila

Ok I know my error she was born in 1973 not 1972 opps-Sheila
 * Okay, I spotted an IP making this change from 12 to 24, with the summary being "She personally said that her DOB is 24 August 1973(IMDB is unreliable)". I've reverted it, but it sounds like there may be a source for it... Tabercil (talk) 23:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This could do with being cited. I'm quite confused as to what her actual date of birth is. IMDb has 12th August 1972, www.trueknowledge.com/q/facts_about__grey_delisle has 24th Aug 1972, Apple have her as August 24, 1973. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 01:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Photo Still
I have a photo still of Grey that she gave me promission to use but i dont know how to tag it. Can somebody help me so it will not be removed. -Sheila 13:58, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

If you still have contact with Mrs. DeLisle, could you please tell her that I am a JumpStart fan and I thought her voice for DeeDee the Duck in JumpStart Toddlers 2000 was cute. Could you also ask her when she did voice work for JumpStart Toddlers 2000 in 1999? If you can do that, that would be great. 68.117.8.110 (talk) 02:40, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Spelling of Credit
In her Avatar: The Last Airbender credit, the spelling of Kaya is incorrect (Drop the first "A": Kya) as it appears in the credits for the episode The Southern Raiders, thanks. Joeyaa (talk) 21:00, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Animated series
can we put her work in like date order--gdaly7 (talk) 17:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

doesn't make sense
I don't know how this makes sense. How can someone be of Hispanic and Mexican descent, when Mexicans are Hispanic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.145.87.237 (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Filmography Sorting
How is the Filmography section sorted? It's not chronological or alphabetical...is there some pattern in the chaos that I'm missing? CoW mAnX (talk) 20:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Voicing Carrie (The Amazing World of Gumball)
Does she do it? Or is it Jessica McDonald? The creator (Ben Bocquelet) said on his twitter that she is voiced by Jessica McDonald, so I would guess she is voiced by Jessica McDonald.72.234.253.27 (talk) 19:31, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Adventure time wiki... a source for information?
Hi, I'm new here and I had recently been online when I found that in the external links that the Adventure Time Wiki is a source. Um, just a favor, can anyone please remove that? I had tried to remove it but couldn't if anyone could do that, i'd appreciate it. It's very inaccurate and that's like if I cited the Avatar wiki or the Generator Rex Wiki as a source, which can be edited by anyone. Thank you for your understanding and I hope this problem is fixed. imdaawesomest (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Changing the picture
I see Grey Delisle wants the article picture changed. No biggie, however, to do so, editors should remember the guidelines, info availabe at WP:IMAGES on uploading, copyright issues and all that.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The constant editing of Grey's Wiki
Ive noticed for the past few days that Grey's Wiki keeps getting edited due to her newfound Tumblr popularity. I have to admit that Im amused by these recent developments (I had a big hand in the uploading of Grey's unique Wiki photo), but is this going to be something that could cause her Wiki to be locked? Even though its not at all negative, wont constant changes like that cause the page to be protected? I dont think I want to see that, just in case Grey has some big projects on the horizon. Haverhillanthony (talk) 20:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand the meaning of page protection. This means only confirmed, logged-in users can edit, and for a period of time, not permanently. It's unfortunate that it had to be done, but vandalism isn't something that Wikipedia tolerates. If Ms. DeLisle does have new information to be added here, it can still be added. Sang&#39;gre Habagat (talk) 22:44, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Mass Effect 3 work
How do you guys confirm that Grey was indeed the voice of Kahlee Sanders in Mass Effect 3? --98.110.178.245 (talk) 17:27, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Controversy
Is her recent Tumblr controversy worth mentioning? I imagine she lost a lot of fans from it (myself included).--Pokélova (Pokémon Lover) (talk) 19:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Above all, if no reliable source cares enough to mention it, it can't be mentioned. It would be a violation of WP:BIO. Sang&#39;gre Habagat (talk) 04:01, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What Tumblr controversy? Could you paste a link to a news story here? Doc   talk  07:41, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It won't even make as much as a single blip on any news feed, I'm afraid. This is just not newsworthy. Sang&#39;gre Habagat (talk) 09:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked into this. Aside from being a complete non-"controversy", there appears to be absolutely nobody talking about it, outside of a handful of people on Tumblr. It's nothing.  Chickenmonkey  21:31, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Search: grey delisle tumblr controversy (it's in "suggestions") you find

Grey DeLisle VoiceActress/Singer/Serial Killer - An Open Letter To The Social Justice Mafia of Tumblr Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 03:20, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

This is no controversy. She spoke truth that got on your nerves. Sorry, but not everyone thinks like you. Devilsblight86 (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

She spoke whose truth exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.108.96.73 (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Career success Section
Convert this section: Career success into a Table. 64.128.27.82 (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Fire Nation Princess
Under occupation it lists Actress Voice actress Singer-songwriter Fire Nation Princess I think this should be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.25.206.175 (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Grey DeLisle-Griffin
Grey changed her twitter name to "Grey DeLisle-Griffin". She told me that eventually she'll be known as Grey Griffin instead of Grey DeLisle. But for now her name that she'll be credited with, is "Grey DeLisle-Griffin." Haverhillanthony (talk) 19:08, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, but until a reliable source uses the new names, I don't think the article should be moved? Sang&#39;gre Habagat (talk) 01:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

I just GOT a reliable source. The credits to a Gravity Falls episode called "Bottomless Pit" featured the brand new surname. It is under additional voices. Sadly, you have to look closely but fortunately, I cane read the fine print so this is official. I do not have a screen-cap of it, so if anyone can, please post it so we can get this name change underway. I asked Grey DeLisle on Facebook (I don't like Twitter and Tumblr) if it can be changed... soooooooooo... we'll seeeeeeeeeee... imdaawesomest (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.24.45.49 (talk) 02:14, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * She used DeLisle-Griffin on some credits, but more recent credits show Griffin. Still, the majority of her work has been under DeLisle. -AngusWOOF (talk) 19:02, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Pronounciation of Surname?
If a pronunciation guide is given for her surname, shouldn't it be in those IPA symbol things? I don't know how to do them, but I understand it would be similar to 'de:lail' or something. Can anyone help with this? magentafeelings (talk) 18:39, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm coming up with greɪ dɪˈlˈaɪl but I am not sure if this is 100% accurate. I got a good IPA for grey as the color, then spliced the "del" in "deliver" with "isle". ClaudeReigns (talk) 19:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Official Photo
The "Unauthorized Photo" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grey_Delisle.jpg of Grey from 2009 was still in use on several of the foreign wikipedia pages. I went back in the history of this page to find where it resides and replaced it with the "Official Wikipedia" photo in 12 places on foreign wiki sites... there is one last foreign wikipedia page where I was not allowed to do it for some reason (I couldn't understand the warning message from the site since it's not in english). Hope someone finds this helpful (you know... no ones ever given me a Barnstar before hint hint).--Dr who1975 (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

She wants this photo to be restored. It seems that Grey jas a good sense pf humor while those who run Wikipedia do not. Devilsblight86 (talk) 00:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Filmography credits for Griffin - limiting the "credited as"
For each filmography table, do not list "credited as Grey Griffin" or "credited as Grey Delisle-Griffin" more than the first time or two that she starts using it. It should be clear based on the year that she has changed her credited name, and that she hasn't swapped back and forth for different projects. 2012-14 Delisle-Griffin, and 2014- for Griffin. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 21:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Appropriate image?
Though I think it's funny, is really an appropriate image for an encyclopedia article? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, it is the only image available that is free for use, and I don't see any particular problems with it anyway. Snuggums (talk / edits) 20:59, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Can't see any fundamental problem with using this. Though it would also be perfectly proper to replace it with an alternative free use image if one becomes available: the subject's preference for using this particular image is not a strong argument. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * A little strange (and funny) but considering it is the only free image available, I see no reason not to keep it on the page until a better one comes along. There is no policy against its use. Meatsgains (talk) 01:23, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Neutrality
This article reads almost as if she wrote most of it herself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.4.62 (talk) 21:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Voiceover roles missing/Inclusion question
Grey voiced Ducky/Ugly Duckling from Season 3, Episode 3 of The Adventures of Puss in Boots. And this link says she voices many other roles from this series, yet only 2 are listed: link I'm ignorant of the rules of inclusion, but are the smaller voiceover roles omitted because they aren't recurring roles, because of lack of citations, or simply because nobody has added them yet? 97.67.82.1 (talk) 22:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably due to lack of proper citations and nobody adding them. I will say however that IMDb (what you provided) is full of user-generated content and thus not a reliable source. See WP:WikiProject Film/Resources for more. Snuggums (talk / edits</b>) 22:58, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The minor ones are grouped in "others". She voices a bunch of them according to her entry on Behind The Voice Actors, which confirms those roles with green check-marks that lead to screenshots of the closing credits. Of the roles in the show, only Vina and Sphinx are notable major characters that appeared in press kits and writeups about the show. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:22, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars Film Credit
About the listing in Filmography, where the Feature Films are. DeLisle is credited as Asajj Ventress in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. For one thing, the film is listed as being from the year 2003 when it came out in 2008. The other thing is that Grey DeLisle didn't play Asajj Ventress in that movie. Nika Futterman did. As far as I'm aware, DeLisle wasn't even in that movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.144.113.5 (talk) 15:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It turns out the wrong link was in place and it was actually referring to a 2005 compilation of the 2003 animated series. I've corrected the link to Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003 TV series), which she was featured in. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:12, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Arkham Series
It appears that her large role as Catwoman in the Arkham Series is not in her filmography. Klayman55 (talk) 12:09, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Klayman55

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Heroes of the Storm
Is there a reason why Li-Ming isn't listed as a character voiced by her in HotS? After Nova, the edit page just says " !-- Li-Ming -- " which makes me think its not supposed to be there for a reason. The HotS wiki has her credited, and shes listed as voicing "Wizard - Female" in Diablo III, which is who Li-Ming is supposed to be. 2602:304:CC09:7700:81C5:B2A3:A3D9:B0B0 (talk) 05:03, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It was probably edited out due to lack of mention in the given citation(s), though we'd need better sourcing than a fanmade wiki. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 05:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Any updates? If anything, it's not just Gamepedia article, it's also IMDb.--Adûnâi (talk) 01:14, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That's nowhere near good enough either as IMDb is full of user-generated content with no editorial oversight for factual accuracy. See WP:WikiProject Film/Resources and WP:Identifying reliable sources for more. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 01:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Omitting English dub on some sections.
AngusWOOF you are missing the point, Afro Samurai was an Anime, along with Bayonetta and When Marnie was There. I just don't see the reason to omit English dub if she seldom does anime. Jennifer Hale also is the same thing, she doesn't do to much anime, yet she was in the Cowboy Bebop movie along with the second Naruto film and the Marvel Anime: X-Men--AnimeDisneylover95 (talk) 16:11, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * This would be the same as adding "voice role" to cartoons. It's not necessary. There is no expectation that if it's an anime, it is assumed to be dubbed in Japanese. American voice actor who dubs everything in English would dub overseas material such as anime, video games, and live-action dub in the same manner. If you want to split that out under "ADR dubbing" because the technique of doing it after the original recording is done, then get a subsection going for that. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:18, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Also, Afro Samurai, while being an anime, was dubbed in English first and presented to Japan in English with Japanese subtitles. Samuel L. Jackson's filmography doesn't need to say it's a voice role, since it's a cartoon, nor does it need to say it's an English dub unless he happens to be fluent in Japanese and there would be some confusion over that. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 20:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Frankly I just disagree on simply removing the English dub note on everything given that she had no background doing anime voice-over, unlike the likes of Laura Bailey, Steve Blum, Kari Wahlgren, Ben Diskin. And to be honest, THIS IS FOR ANY PARTICULAR VOICE ACTOR THAT HAS MADE AN APPEARANCE IN AN ANIME BUT DOES NOT DO IT FREQUENTLY (e.g. Fred Tatasciore in Naruto/Naruto Shippuden, Jessica DiCicco in Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works, Michelle Rodriguez in IGPX, Maile Flanagan in Naruto).

Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines credit
Article seems to be neglecting her role in the video game VTM: Bloodlines as Jeanette and Therese Voerman. I would make the change myself but I am a newb and would probably mess it up. Is IMDB a good enough source? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438550/fullcredits/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by PD711 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The role would need something much stronger than IMDb; see WP:WikiProject Film/Resources for more. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 18:12, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems IMDB is a more reliable as a source than Wikipedia then. I came here to confirm that she was voicing a certain character in Bloodlines after hearing her voice, only to find the entry missing.. and the one for Li-Ming too (mentioned in another talk section above) when it's obvious she's reprising her role from the character in Diablo 3.  Check IMBD, everything is listed. Hell, I've found a LOT of information on IMDB not on wikipedia, in much greater detail too. Anyway, what IS a reliable source then? A screenshot of the damn game's credits? As far as I'm concerned, IMDB is verifiable enough, especially since there's a monetary barrier to making an account.  The game was from 2004 for christs sake, it's been 13 years with this information out there, let's get this info added. If this video of the credits with her name listed isn't enough of a source, I don't know what is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cir3_8YUZY&t=2m23s - DAOWAce (talk) 11:54, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Video game credits are fine to use as long as one knows which citation format to use, though I'm personally not sure what that template is. Perhaps can help with that. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 14:47, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * If you're referencing the actual video game screens such as the closing credits, use . Behind The Voice Actors collects a bunch of those screenshots, noted with the green checkmarks, so you can use those particular entries as well. For Bloodlines, I only see her name with Voice Over Actors, so the specific role needs another source, like a self-published tweet from the actress or better a review from a news article covering her characters. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:39, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * She's also in the game manual but again under Voice Over Actors, nothing more specific. I do see her in Jeff Zannini's resumes. That one seems to copy IMDb credits and slaps a bio on top of it. If that's acceptable then we could use that reference by putting it as a corner reference on the table, see Dee Bradley Baker filmography. I found a review that pointed out her performance on the video game title as the "Malkavian countess", but it isn't clear whether that's specifically Jeanette?  <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:57, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Dragon Age: Awakenings
She voiced Velanna in Dragon Age: Awakenings, which was released in 2010. I could have sworn it was on her page at some point but I don't see it now. Sources would be Wikipedia itself... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Characters_of_Dragon_Age#Characters_in_Dragon_Age:_Origins_.E2.80.93_Awakening http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217221/ Google (if you type in Velanna voice actress...) I'm not sure what else I'd need to provide but she is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.13.170.74 (talk) 01:04, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia itself and IMDb are not reliable sources. Please find another one. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:06, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

She is listed in the credits of the game itself, so I'm not sure how much more proof I should have to give. Here is a video. She is listed as Velanna at 11:30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeeaTdBKbR0 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.9.148.171 (talk) 09:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)


 * That will work. I'll add that in. <strong style="color:#606060;">AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 15:58, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2018
Would like to change the photo. I manage Grey personally. She has a new photo she would like uploaded. Mach1mgmt (talk) 05:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
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Paradise PD
Would someone who has more experience editing wikipedia care to update her credits for the new netflix show Paradise PD? I would but I often question whether my edits are done correctly when I edit wikipedia pages. Her main character she voices is Mayor Karen. The imdb page for the show has what you need: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8235236/?ref_=nv_sr_1  Jambristol (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * IMDb isn't a usable citation per WP:WikiProject Film/Resources and WP:Identifying reliable sources; we need stronger referencing than that. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 01:37, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * This will work: https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1010061/Paradise-PD-Netflix-cast-series-cartoon-Brickleberry-Bullet-Randall-Crawford-Tom-Kenny http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/02/netflixs-paradise-pd-season-1-review  AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Use whichever reference you deem fit for wikipedia. I didn't realize imdb is mostly user-submitted material. Jambristol (talk) 01:56, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The closing credits don't list her character name, just has her listed under Co-starring, but IGN and other regular news media sources do. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 01:59, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

split filmography
(moved from Talk:Tara Strong filmography)

Should A Filmography Guide For Fellow Voice Artiste Griffin, Grey Be Created?

Is it a good idea that a filmography page for Grey Griffin should be created? I know that it is in her page under the Filmography section of course.

But due to the sheer amount of voicing credits she has, it might be taken as a yes. Her most recent role in the main character variety as of this writing is Puppycorn in the Cartoon Network series Unikitty. And yes, this is the umpteenth time that she voiced a guy.

Lastly, what happened to her only live-action role in the Fox periodical situation comedy series That 70s Show as a prom chaperone-type person? Did it get deleted? Most likely it did.

Sincerely,

67.81.163.178 (talk) 21:22, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * No objections to Grey's filmography having its own page given her vast amount of voice roles. <b style="color:#009900">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 21:39, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ Please contribute at her filmography page. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 22:32, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 December 2019
"Comedian" in her occupation section needs to be removed, no such info in her "Career" section states that she ever did any comedy throughout her career. This info is false and therefore it needs to be removed from her occupation section. 2600:1000:B045:4FBC:D62:2E80:3101:53C1 (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2020
"Comedian" in her occupation section needs to be removed, no such info in her "Career" section states that she ever did any comedy throughout her career. This info is false and therefore it needs to be removed from her occupation section. 2600:1000:B018:C6EA:A02D:6D9C:6FCF:AD19 (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "[In 2018] she released her debut comedy act", "In her late teens, she [...] entered the world of comedy" – Thjarkur (talk) 00:19, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Parents Shouldn’t Be in InfoBox
Kendall and Kylie are the daughters of Kris and Kaitlyn (formerly Bruce) Jenner and are very well-known TV personalities slash models. Because of this the aforementioned parents are placed in info box. But in the case of this female voice actor who may be high-profile, hers should not be placed there with an invisible comment such as Notable parents only. They must be erased with said hidden note in their place.

67.81.163.178 (talk) 13:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)


 * ✅, no invisible comment needed. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 14:01, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2020
Credit Grey DeLisle in the 2004 videogame Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, for here role as Jeanette Voerman and Therese Voerman 2001:818:EADE:D700:6DFA:4A7C:B370:CFD3 (talk) 20:14, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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Autoharp
Grey DeLisle doesn't just sing, she also plays the autoharp when performing outside of voice work. That's the only instrument she plays. Can you add that?

--73.15.231.170 (talk) 01:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

"DeLisle" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2021
Add a credit for her work voicing Padme Amidala in the Star Wars: Clone Wars 2003 microseries. Vonmor (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2021
I would like to have the category "Hispanic and Latino American actresses" added to the page, as DeLisle is of Mexican descent. 2601:199:4181:E00:CC0C:C7F0:8359:F26 (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * it doesn't appear to be something she's prominently noted for. Just because something can be verified doesn't necessarily mean it's worth adding a category for. See WP:Overcategorization for more. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 15:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * She is credited with voicing Latina characters in Back at the Barnyard (Juanita) and El Tigre: The Adventures of Manny Rivera (Frida Suárez). --73.123.30.85 (talk) 15:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * The ethnicities of her characters is irrelevant and has no bearing on my previous comment. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 15:52, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Grey DeLisle has COVID
Grey DeLisle has COVID-19. Here is the source. 71.31.236.74 (talk) 15:39, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That was from two weeks ago and Grey might have since recovered. In either case, when she's far from the only person to contract it even among those who are vaccinated, this just seems like a run-of-the-mill occurrence and I don't see how it's worth a mention per WP:NOTNEWS. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 15:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2022
Add voice acting in "The Legend of Vox Machina" as Delilah Briarwood 73.185.200.121 (talk) 07:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Semi protected edit request
On the Early Life section, please add that she grew up in a Mexican-American household and that her grandmother was Mexican. https://mobile.twitter.com/GreyDeLisle/status/1568264053172346881 https://mobile.twitter.com/greydelisle/status/1347106122176450562 208.127.190.114 (talk) 17:46, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ thanks for the tweets! <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 18:34, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Information based on one joke tweet
It says she accidentally confessed to cheating. The source is an article and the source of that article is one tweet that she made that appears to be a joke. 2601:2C3:C586:1650:248D:FC37:F188:1D2 (talk) 23:37, 1 October 2023 (UTC)