Talk:Khalili Collection of Hajj and the Arts of Pilgrimage

Amir al-hajj, kiswah, mahmal
Some redirects/additions/clarifications needed round here. Fortunate you have the expertise available! Johnbod (talk) 23:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi John, hope you're well. Thanks for taking a look at the article. Could you say a bit more about what changes you're recommending? kiswah and mahmal are introduced with sentence definitions in this article and I'm working on a draft explaining more fully what a Mahmal is. I seem to remember linking the concept of Amir al-hajj in an article, but that term doesn't seem to be in this article, unless I'm missing something. Can you give an example of where you'd like a clarification? MartinPoulter (talk) 13:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC) If the comment is about variant transliterations, I agree it's confusing to have both kiswa and kiswah etc. I'm just aiming for consistency with the sources I'm using, which might mean I use spellings that differ from wikilinked articles. Different legitimate sources differ in how they render the original words. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Recent move of this article
Hi @Ravenpuff, can you explain why you moved this article without seeking any discussion, to a name that isn't used in any sources? This is already an article that's been heavily reviewed, not like it's some new stub that might be mistitled. As you can see from the official site, the article "the" is not used before "hajj" in the name. It's referred to on that page as "The Nasser D. Khalili Collection of Hajj and The Arts of pilgrimage" or "The Hajj and the Arts of Pilgrimage Collection" - note the emphasis. See this page about a catalogue referring to the collection with "The Khalili Collection of Hajj and the Arts of Pilgrimage comprises some 5,000 objects covering all aspects of Hajj,..." See also this remark from the chair of Sotheby's. Surely naming things what they are called is important, and surely a decision like this should not be made unilaterally. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Very grateful for your quick response to this @Ravenpuff - great work! MartinPoulter (talk) 15:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I never ended up replying to this. I didn't come across the use of the collection's official name on the website at first, so I thought the title was ungrammatical, but now that you pointed it out I was happy to move the page back. Thanks! —  RAVEN PVFF   · talk  · 23:06, 21 June 2024 (UTC)