Talk:Kulintang

earlier comment
Hi, I'm gonna change a few facts here. Kulintang, or sometimes "kolintang" in Indonesian dialect, is truly a traditional music of (North) Sulawesi, but not of Sumatera island. And Sabah is a province of Malaysia. Thank you XoXo 06:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Overhauling article
I'm going reformat this article, "Kulintang", first adding more information with more references, then pictures, maps and diagrams within the next two weeks. Please bear with the initial mess as this occurs. PhilipDM 01:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Overhauling completed. text, sources, images, and audio added to article. Please address any other issues below. PhilipDM 20:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Good article
I just came in from the DYK, and the article impressed the socks off me. It is well written, well sectioned, and very informative: it contains more meat than is found in some books. There is cultural context, history, technique, media files, and even a table of major performers in nice format, not to mention the numerous informative illustrations. The reference section is outstanding. I speedily passed the article as Good, but I really think it ought to be Featured. Kudos for the excellent work! Freederick 10:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually I was consulting someone else about moving this article to feature status but we were worried about the references. We were considering removing some since editors sometimes don't like too many. Also... the article is still in the process of being peer reviewed but considering your comment, we may consider bringing it up for a feature review and see what happens.


 * Thanks for the acknowlegdement. Really worked hard on this one. PhilipDM 10:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Chalempung
This is listed on the related instruments list. Is it another spelling of the celempung? Rigadoun (talk) 16:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I found a few spellings of this gong instrument when doing research. I'll give you the reference sources if you need them
 * chalempung of sumatra from Cadar in "The Maranao Kolintang Music"
 * caklempong of the Malay Minangkaba of Negeri Sembilan from Matusky in "Musical instruments of Malaysia"
 * caklempung from Matusky in "An Introduction to the Major instruments and forms of Traditional Malay Music"
 * celempung of west malaysia from Frame in "The Musical Instruments of Sabah." PhilipDM 20:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Headless?
What on earth does it mean that "this music was catered for by acephalous societies"? The only interpretations I can come up with don't give me any insight into why there's no tradition of written representation. 66.93.144.192 05:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi. I'm the one who wrote this piece and I believe the sentence, "Compositions were passed down orally from generation to generation negating the need for notation for the pieces", the sentence right after the first, clearly satisfies your question. Basically, for those who play this music, there was no need to write it down. This applys not only from kulintang tradition in Mindanao but for the more well-known gamelan tradition as well. If you ask the people who play this music traditionally they will answer the same way. For instance, if you talk with master kulintang musicians like Master Danongan Kalanduyan like I always do, he has always stated he learned this music by experience... there was never any thought of having to learn it via notation like Westerners do. And that's why there exist no there's any "tradition of written representation" in kulintang music. PhilipDM 21:37, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I understand the point being made about notation (I'm a gamelan player myself), but the introduction is baffling. I'm not sure I've ever encountered the word "acephalous" before, but obviously enough it means "without a head".  So an acephalous society is what, a society without a well-defined leadership class?  Leaving aside whether that is accurate or not, how does that relate to the issue of written music representation?  I won't presume to edit the article, but it seems to me you ought to either drop that phrase entirely or else expand on whatever idea you're trying to get across.66.93.144.192 12:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Photo
Is the instrument in the center of photo a kulintang? zafiroblue05 | Talk 18:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Judging from the wooden instrument on the left, that would be a kulintangan in the middle then. Those among the Maguindanao and Maranao do not play that xylophone-type instrument (it would be shaped differently)... however, towards sulu and farther into indonesia, you will find elements such as that on the left. I cannot however identify the exact group via this picture though but it is definitely within the realm of kulintang tradition. PhilipDM (talk) 19:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps
This article has been reviewed as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Lampman (talk) 13:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Nekara Redirect
Hello, I'm indonesian, and I know exactly that Nekara is different from Kulintang. Nekara is kind of ancient Indonesian bronze drum. Thanks you :) --54Irviene (talk) 08:20, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Kulintang on Earth Music Album
Kulintang is one of the instruments included in the Earth Music Album of Ato Mariano.--121.54.58.128 (talk) 19:53, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Kulintang Music Album
Kulintang Music Album was recorded by Ato Mariano in 1996.--121.54.58.128 (talk) 19:57, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

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Maranao
What is maranao 112.202.212.93 (talk) 04:52, 23 February 2022 (UTC)