Talk:List of Apple products

Should Claris Be Included In Apple Products
As a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple, should Claris software be considered Apple software for the purposes of this timeline? If not, what stand-alone software products was Apple actually releasing during the 90s, besides AppleShare?--Mac128 (talk) 03:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

End Of Life Product Totals
Would love to add the EOL total units sold for each of Apple's discontinued product lines: Apple 1, Apple II, Apple III, Apple IIGS, Apple Lisa, Apple Network Server, Newton. Anyone got the numbers?--Mac128 (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Bad link
The link to the Altair should be towards Altair_8800 instead of Altair, which refers to the star of the same name.

CielProfond (talk) 21:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Why is the Altair 8800 mentioned at all in this graphic? There is no other mention of it on this page, and the Altair Wikipedia article doesn't mention Apple anywhere. They seem to be entirely unrelated. I'd delete it from this graphic, but I don't know how to do that.

74.71.66.176 (talk) 18:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Newer Photos
Anyone?!!! I don't know how to do that. someone please do it. all the images in this page are ages old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.207.217.219 (talk) 02:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:05, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Timeline of Apple products → Timeline of Apple Inc. products
 * This article should be moved for consistency with other Apple Inc. articles. ~ Nerdy Science Dude  (✉ message • changes) 03:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Support. The current name has ambiguity with "timeline of products made from apple fruit". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Magic Mouse
The Mighty Mouse is the most recent input device according to this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluber buton (talk • contribs) 17:32, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Missing something
February 24, 2011 MacBook Pros. The ones from 2010 need to say "February 24, 2011" instead of "current" because they aren't sold directly by Apple anymore. 166.205.136.118 (talk) 04:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Timeline missing laptops
The timeline appears to be missing laptop products. --68.102.163.104 (talk) 12:02, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Colour Codes
The colour code on the timeline list is confusing, random, and inconsistently applied. Does anyone have objections to removing them? - AustinSJ (talk) 09:38, 5 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Please do. I was so confused when I looked at it just now. There's no explanation what they mean, and at first I thought they were introduction of product lines, but later on in the timeline that just turns out to be all products introduced, practically. --David Munch (talk) 13:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

This isn't a sob story
Year 2011 has "Steve Jobs leves forever" Please change to "Steve Jobs dies" or somthing a little less sad/fate supporting" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.153.28 (talk) 19:31, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you meant 'leaves forever'. Yes, this is more appropriate for a children's book or a fansite.  It does not help Wikipedia's image or the author of the image.Sanpitch (talk) 21:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

http://www.iheart.com/#/live/1469/?autoplay=true — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.54.83.186 (talk) 17:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I have a better page for a link.
The current link for Apple ColorMonitor IIe is this. A better link would be this. I tried changing that & I couldn't figure out how to. Can someone do this? Evoogd20 02:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

2013 iPhone Dates Off?
Per this site: http://aaplinvestors.net/marketing/events/  announcement of 2013 iPhone line happened on Sept. 10 not 20, as listed on the page. Should this change be made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jotade11 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that List of products discontinued by Apple Inc. be merged into Timeline of Apple Inc. products. The discontinued article is just a list and contains no specific dates whilst the timeline does and I don't see the need for both articles. MB1972 (talk) 21:35, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge - The articles have basically the same information, merger is the best solution. MB1972 (talk) 12:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge - I don't know how to execute it, but sounds like a good idea, better to have one information dense list than two very similar ones duplicating each other. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:03, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge for the reasons given above.—Totie (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Merge I don't know why this went quiet: this needs to happen Grantwikis (talk) 07:14, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge as the Timeline is an improved version. AnAwesomeArticleEditor (talk) 17:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

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Mac mini
Why is Mac mini referred to here and on the Mac mini page as Mac Mini? Mac mini is the name of the product. Is there a Wikipedia formatting rule that takes precedence?

2601:647:4C02:E880:B09D:7742:68E4:B123 (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Merge from discontinued products page
I have completed folding in information from List of products discontinued by Apple Inc.. This wasn't a trivial task, since that article listed a number of products that were missing from this article -- like, dozens of things. While most of it has gone fine, there are a number of products for which we still have no concrete introduction dates, and/or they haven't been put into the article:


 * Apple OneScanner, Apple ColorOne Scanner, Apple Color Scanner 600/27, Apple Color Scanner 1200/30 (probably 1990-1997)
 * Apple Multimedia Kit: promo picture (1993-1995?)
 * Apple Presentation System: user group mention; Apple Rescue of Denver (1995?)
 * Apple Graphics Tablet info (1979?)
 * Apple 80 column card (early 1980s)
 * Macintosh Processor Upgrade Card (mid 1990s)
 * Several Apple Mouse and Apple Keyboard revisions
 * Apple Numeric Keypad (1983)
 * A variety of older monitors listed in Apple displays
 * Most of the Apple Newton models

Most of the Performas don't have concrete end dates, either. This is back in the days when inventories would sit unsold for weeks or months in warehouses or at retail stores, and Apple hasn't documented the dates they stopped manufacturing them, or when the last ones were sold.  Warren -talk- 08:00, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

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Shading within tables
If I understand correctly, the shading of products within tables should match the graphical timeline at the top. If this is the case, it looks like there's a lot of work to do? Most of the products are still unshaded. Abobeck11 (talk) 04:59, 10 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Not at all; that's just for the timeline. Really not a fan of these timelines BTW, they always lolk hideous, run off the edge of the screen, and individual products are very hard to tap on mobile; we should find a way to replace it with something better.
 * Colors should be avoided in tables, for accessibility reasons. Many of our table rows are unreadable for colorblind users and others with accessibility needs. Someone skilled at regex should just get rid of all those colors, they add no information to readers. DFlhb (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Air Pods (3rd generation) pls
What Air Pods (3rd generation) 113.165.6.218 (talk) 12:22, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Turning this page into a virtual museum
What do people here think about turning this page into a "virtual museum", with mostly pictures? Right now, we're contrained to one or two pictures a year, so that images fit within each section, but it's such a waste of an opportunity; this article could be really fun and far more educational to browse, and help younger readers get a great idea of how tech evolved over several decades.

We should have a sort of "museum" section, full of pictures for all the products we have open-license pictures of, and we can keep the detailed tables as-is in their own section.

WP:IGNOREALLRULES! DFlhb (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Clearer idea:
 * First section: Virtual museum, with templates sorted in subsections by year; the captions link to anchors that are in the tables. So, go to 2020 in the "virtual museum", click iPad Pro, get taken to the "iPad Pro (4th generation)" line in the corresponding table, where you can see more info. Click on the product name in the table and you get taken to the main article on that product.
 * Second section: practically identical to what it is currently, but with no colors (for accessibility and since they're not useful), and with anchors.
 * DFlhb (talk) 21:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Discussing ways to improve this list
My "virtual museum" idea was creative, but ultimately I don't think it was a good idea under WP:NOTGALLERY.

Here's a better suggestion: remove all headers, and turn this into a single list, which can be easily sorted (ascending, descending). Remove colors from the table, which make it unpleasant to read, and add a "Family" column ("Mac", "iPhone", etc), so the table can be sorted by that column. That should make it easy, for example, to sort all products by release date, then by type, if someone wants to see all products grouped by product line but still arranged chronologically within each line DFlhb (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems like a good suggestion. I liked having the images limited to a single one per year just for bare illustrative purposes, and definitely want to avoid the gallery feel to it, but they can all be removed if you would really prefer to do so. —GoldRingChip 16:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I do like the "one per year", so I'll hold off for now. The article would likely be too tedious to browse if it was just one long unbroken gray table. DFlhb (talk) 02:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would be too tedious if one long table. I dislike tables that are arbitrarily broken by years (or decades, etc.) because they don't solve any problems other than the tedium.  So I don't know the solution.  Therefore, let's think of a better idea and wait. —GoldRingChip 19:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Table Colors
What exactly do the colors mean in the table? I was able to guess  that each color refers to the category of product, but guessing shouldn't be necessary. A key should be added or the colors should be removed. 2603:6080:3804:7C8D:D658:9894:8028:4E26 (talk) 22:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Magic Keyboard for iPad
No entry for iPad keyboards? 154.160.14.86 (talk) 06:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)