Talk:List of Mario television episodes

Disambiguation for episode names
What should be used for each series? For Super Mario World, the only page to have one is Party Line, which uses (SMW episode). Yet with SMB3 and SMBSS, there's (AoSMB3 episode), (Nintendo), (Super Mario episode) and (Mario episode). I think that we should use (SMBSS episode) for the Super Show, and (AoSMB3 episode) for SMB3, as (Super Mario Bros Super Show episode) and (Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episode) are kinda long. But whatever we use, it'll still require organizing the SMB3 episodes a bit.--Narlee 03:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Even though I need to ask Plainnym for permission has he/she has spent time working on the articles, a good decision would be (AoSMB3 episode) or simply (Super Mario Bros 3 Episode) as some countries (such as Netherlands and Germany use that name while the UK syndication package is Adventures of Super Mario (both SMB3 and SMW as well as Season 3 of Captain N)). (SMBSS episode) is good enough for the Super Show but bare in mind that some countries (e.g. original UK airing [before tapes and DVDs], Spain, France, etc.) call that show Super Mario Bros. (a few airings do not have the live action segments and just use the cartoons).

If this sounds confusing, it is. --Yawachary 22:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I think that even though different countries have different names for the shows, the show's actual title should be used, but abreviated, as the names are a tad long.--Narlee 01:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Infoboxes
I have noticed that the Super Mario Bros. Super Show episodes have an infobox. Can I add them to the Super Mario Bros. 3/Super Mario World episodes (as I have some info)? --Yawachary 21:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Well don't use the SMBSS infoboxes for SMB3 or World, as they have sections that apply strictly to the Super Show, like the plumber's log and Bowser's alter-ego. If you want, I can make up seperate infoboxes for the other shows, just tell me what you want in them, and it shouldn't be a problem.--Narlee 01:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Okay, just the production code, airing number, air date and the writer/writers as there is not much other information (the directors are the same). (This might not be relevant, but for Super Mario World, there could be a mention of Captain N episode as they aired at the same half hour and use the same credits but that might be a bad idea.) --Yawachary 18:25, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Template:Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 episode and Template:Super Mario World episode. Enjoy! =) I haven't gotten around to using them in any pages yet, so let me know if there are any problems.--Narlee 00:55, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Song Covers
Should we note which popular songs were used in the appropriate episodes (for example, Bad in King Mario of Cramalot)? - NES Boy 01:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately in the DVD version, all the confrontation songs for the most part have been replaced with the ripoff of "Motor City Here We Come" from the SMB3 series (Disk 2), and another generic battle song (Disk 1). This can be confirmed by watching a VHS recording of "Bad Rap" then watching the DVD version's final battle. I happen to have both. I happen to also have both versions of King Mario of Cramalot. The VHS version has Bad and the DVD version has two ripoff songs in its place.LReyome254 21:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The Character Names
The Super Mario Brothers Super Show uses a much different set of names that we currently use. Princess Peach was, at the time, named Princess Toadstool and was referred to as Toadstool. Futhermore, Bowser was never called Bowser in the cartoons. Instead he was always called Koopa. I belive that for the sake of reference to the show we should use the names used in the show, not the ones that are currently used. Mr. Whitman 05:34, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

It's done
Every episode now has an episode synopsis and trivia/goofs sections complete. If anyone has the missing Live Action segments that were not included in the DVD release of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, please write up articles for them. Mr. Whitman 05:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

You can access the "lost segments" on Yahooligans, you just need to to where to go; heres the link to the Yahooligans player. Just copy and paste the following numbers at the end of the address, after getting rid of the numbers already there. Each number shows one-third of the episode.


 * Koopenstein: 47682, 47683, 47684
 * On Her Majesty's Sewer Service: 47645, 47647, 47648
 * The Trojan Koopa: 47697, 47698, 47699

By the way, The Unzappables doesn't have it's live-action segment, it just has a Club Mario episode in place of it. -- Lord Crayak

I've written in new episode synopsises for the episodes that you posted. However, I was unable to get screen shots for the episodes. If that can be done then things will be near perfect. If not, then it's okay. Mr. Whitman 05:55, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I had to edit a portion of the synopsis for Stars In Their Eyes because the wrong action was described LReyome254 14:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

The pictures
The pictures are great, but not well placed since they (in Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.4) cover up some of the lists. It doesn't look very good with the space that   makes. What to do about it? --Najoj 23:09, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Episode notability
All of the episodes of this series fail the notability guidelines for television episodes. The way for these articles to be improved is through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. That is unlikely to happen, and these only contain overly long plot summaries, trivia, and quotes. Per that, they need to be a small part of this list. If there are no objections, these will be redirected soon. TTN 19:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No objections; fully endorse. —   pd_THOR  undefined | 21:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. The guidelines should be followed. magiciandude (Talk) (review) 00:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * i do NOT agree. We spent a lot of work on these, and this is a lot of infomation. If we take these out, then we will lose all that information. What's the point of Wikipedia without information!?! I believe this should stay the way it is. Willy105 13:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I imagine some quantity of time was spent on these articles, and they do contain a lot of information. If deleted, then some of this information will be lost to Wikipedia.  What's the point of Wikipedia without this information?  Can you provide an argument for keeping this lot of non-notable, un-sourced information; an argument refuting the points listed above?  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 12:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I also do not agree on this! These are good summaries, and are very useful to anyone looking up information on the TV show. Deleting the pages will defeat the purpose of wikipedia.64.39.133.135 11:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that's all they are: plot summaries; TV Tome would also be useful for people looking for this information. Deleting these pages would be in line with the points noted above by ; have you read them?  —   pd_THOR  undefined | 12:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

SInce they don't contain sources or a reception section, I say redirect. The Prince of Darkness 14:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

what rubbish was that?i have no idea what your saying.Mariofan1000 15:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * We're arguing that the multitude of episodic articles linked to from this article do not merit inclusion based on Wikipedia policies. —   pd_THOR  undefined | 12:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

These pages should not be deleted. 64.39.133.135 11:58, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you ... have a rationale for your stance? —   pd_THOR  undefined | 12:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not right. How can Wikipedia be the place to learn about stuff when everything keeps being deleted?64.39.133.135 11:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not deleted, it's merged. You can still view the articles in their histories. The Prince of Darkness 23:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Errr, yeah, the result is all the information (at least 2 or 3 paragraphs per articles) is now gone, and accessible only if you know it used to be there. I doubt this was the best course of actions. The pages included broadcast information, credit information, and a good plot summary. Instead, now there is only one sentence that barely covers the subject matter. And should people want to add more information, the list will become impractical. The fact that the information might have been unsourced should not detract from the separate articles, it should instead motivate people to find sources for the subject matter. While individual episodes may seem non-notable, the whole that they were was very much notable. It was part of one of the longest videogame inspired TV show ever. And to explain the whole, you have to explain the parts. I believe that this merge was the wrong one, but instead of doing what I believe should be done and undoing the changes, I will wait and see. This discussion was far from over when the merge was done, and I believe it was done wrongly under the idea that consulting the history of a redirect page is practical, desirable or even common.Youkai no unmei 15:43, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Lets bring it back
From the arguments above and that Jason Scott has proven that large amounts of time and wasted effort goes into deletion debates, I think it should be restored and kept while being less concerned with the question of notability, and instead focus on whether or not the summaries are factual. Who else thinks it should be restored?

The point is that Wikipedia is not paper. This means Wikipedia hasn't the same space limitations as a paper encyclopedia. The deletion discussion takes the more disk space than the article, because you will still have the article's history in addition you now have a history for the deletion discussion. There is a lack of open-mindedness at how the content criteria can be interpreted as these articles are perfectly acceptable for Wikipedia in this view. Some shows have pages which give a factual description of every last person on the cast. Those are not deleted, so why delete these summaries? --MahaPanta (talk) 16:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Images
Could you please bring the images here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.234.53 (talk) 09:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Split
I suggest these get split into there serpareate shows of List of Super Mario World episodes, List of The Adventures of the Super Mario Bros 3 episodes and List of The Super Mario Show Show! episodes.--Andy Chat c 19:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Why? They seem perfectly fine together to me. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 22:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Makes it much easier to find as if you are looking for the episde list of super mario world doing a search for that wont find it easily plus it jsut daft all merged--Andy Chat c 06:46, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd've thought all search terms for when people look for lists of one programme would redirect to here, so I don't see how it can be harder to find. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 13:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

nope that only works if you create a page ie the ones above and redirect but as there red means they do not exist so people would need ot look for mario episode and that wouldnt be my first search term i look for super mario world episodes, but clearly people do not think it be best and it was only a suiggestion :)--Andy Chat c 18:45, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Family Channel Show
I see no mention of the old Robertson-era Family Channel cartoon featuring Mario and the gang. All the shows mentioned here were on other channels, but I know there was also a Family Channel show. There should be an Article on it. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 06:00, 25 November 2010 (UTC) -That was just a rerun package of the shows that are lusted here72.231.136.240 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:39, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Real original airdates
Found a couple from October 19, 1991 and November 2, 1991. "Battle of the Baseball Know-It-Alls" originally aired on October 19, and "Party Line" originally aired on November 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH2GOPXDwxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw64VkO_iTo71.95.250.236 (talk) 19:57, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Club Mario
In regards to the recent IP edits, which I also mentioned in the talk page of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, they attempted to add episodes from the repackaged series, "Club Mario". I told them not to include it as a separate section since it's a repackaged version of TSMBSS. Even after telling them my rationale, they reverted my edits claiming that "I specifically told you what was different, the original live action parts which ARE NEW, do this again you will most likely get banned" - as seen here. I will wait until my 3RR to undo the changes. If they want to revert the edit - I will redirect them to the talk page so that we can discuss it - since the addition of "Club Mario" was not discussed here at all.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

For Your Information each of the new live action parts are unique and do have names found here:. Several have been found and could have descriptions written. STOP DENYING FACTS!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:1595:8210:300A:2C71:4357:DA7F (talk) 02:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I am not denying facts. It is an interesting resource, but they can't be used per WP:Original Research.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 02:39, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify what WP:Original Research is, "The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist." Also, "To demonstrate that you are not adding OR, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article, and directly support the material being presented. The citation you gave me does not directly state that Club Mario exists as a series. Instead, it only lists a bunch of copyrights owned by DIC Entertainment - in alphabetical order. Looking into the citation more, it does list two versions of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show. For example - "The adventures of Sherlock Mario (Club Mario) By Eric Allaman" and "The Adventures of Sherlock Mario (1989) By Haim Saban & Shuki Levy". However, since no additional secondary citations exist to prove that they are 100% distinct from each other, it's best to merge the information on list of "Super Mario Bros. Super Show" episodes. I even provided citations proving the existence of the series on top of the list of episodes, and even fixed the links in the main Wikipedia article.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:27, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Put the songs back they obviously exist  There does not need to be a source for EVERYTHING!! Do you have source for the air dates???? I didn’t think so!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:1595:8210:7DE9:A20A:8E60:B221 (talk) 17:10, 17 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I know they exist, but they aren't notable enough to put in the article, per WP:Notability and WP:OR.  Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 21:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to refocus this list
In the wake of this discussion that merged The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! with The Legend of Zelda (TV series), the TLOZ episode list got orphaned and I was looking for a new home for them. This list would be the most logical target, if not for the name. It occurred to me that collecting the three Mario animated shows into one list doesn't actually make a lot of sense. SMBSS is a completely different continuity. SMB3 and SMW are more closely related but they're still separate shows with distinct titles and settings, so they're not really connected in the same way that multiple seasons of a single show are. Thus, I propose: Axem Titanium (talk) 17:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Merging the Legend of Zelda episode list into this page and retitling it to "List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! episodes"
 * 2) Splitting the episode lists for SMB3 and SMW to their respective pages, which are not terribly long, and show pages with episode lists directly on the page are fairly common


 * We shouldn't be listing the episodes at all unless we have reliable sources to warrant it. czar  01:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I can’t say “YouTube Poop!”
I wanted to say that the episode “Mama Luigi” is a common source for YouTube Poops, but your filter won’t let me use the word “poop.” 162.236.20.218 (talk) 03:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)