Talk:List of Rock Band track packs

Track Pack compatability?
Are the track packs compatible with both Rock Band and Rock Band 2? Might be helpful info, I just know that I was looking here for it and couldn't find it. Lyriani (talk) 11:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * When the track packs are downloaded via redemption code, which is found on the back of the manual, the track packs are listed under the game "Rock Band" not "Rock Band 2".
 * So yes, one can play the downloaded track packs from both Rock Band 1 and Rock Band 2. 69.132.168.44 (talk) 01:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Page name?
Upon announcement of Vol. 2, should we rename to either List of Rock Band Track Packs or List of songs in Rock Band Track Packs? Oren0 (talk) 16:30, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Given that each is going to be a distinct purchasable product, I think just calling it as it is now is fine, as "Rock Band Track Pack" is a reasonable search term (that should be redirected here). --M ASEM 16:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the first one would be the best suited in the long run. A base description of common elements in the lead, plus an infobox with cover, summary of game info, and song list for each one would probably be appropriate. -- TRTX T / C 22:18, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Compatibility with PS3
Would the Rock Band Track Packs be compatible with the PS3? Because I can't get my PS3 online, and i'm thinking it would save me alot of time to just grab the PS2 one, and hope it works on PS3... Might be good for other people to know if it'll work on PS3 or not. --4.154.241.184 (talk) 01:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You'll have to ask around in gaming forums. Though I would guess if RB from PS2 is compatible the Track Pack would be. -- TRTX T / C 03:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly not unless you're using the PS2 version of RB rather than the PS3 one, and I'm not sure even then. The versions are very different. Oren0 (talk) 03:38, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The cover for Trackpack 1 says you don't need RB, meaning it's essentially its own game. Since the PS2 version uses the same instruments as the PS3, I don't see why you couldn't play it on the PS3.-161.133.8.248 (talk) 18:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Stages?
Saw the edit today. Can somebody source the "Staging" system on the trackpack vs. the "Tiers" used in the main game? I'm curious to see if they actually changed the difficulty categories in Quickplay. -- TRTX T / C 13:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Pack 2
|here. There's no other info, so I don't think it warrants in clusion just yet. -- TRTX T / C 18:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Formatting
We really need to work on formatting this page so it will look better. The chart is overlapping the sidebar on my computer (Windows XP, 1024x768, Firefox 2) -- Rabin 16:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
 * What I think would help would be to have a page on Rock Band expansion games and then seperate the song lists out to a different article. The odd formatting is being caused by the table running up against the VG box. -- TRTX T / C 12:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I really think that would be a good idea. We might be able to do that once the 2nd track pack is released. (Off topic: I hope "Dirty Little Secret" and "Still Alive" are on the Track Pack 2) -- Rabin 00:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC Expansion?
Walmart promotional materials are describing an AC/DC expansion pack. No information as to if it's a disc or just promoting DLC to go with the release of AC/DC's new album. I thought I'd archive it here for now and see how people felt. This to me seems more credible than the listings for RB Pack 2 that have been popping up on IGN, but I still don't think it's enough to go on for inclusion. -- TRTX T / C 12:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Needless to say this is now a confirmed product exclusive to Wal-Mart/Sam's Club. Hard to tell if this will be DLC or not. --M ASEM  05:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

New Fender Guitar Effects in PS2 version
I own this particular game, and I noticed that the original Rock Band and Track Pack Vol. 1 have some slightly different options which can be selected with the Strat's FX switch.

Rock Band: Doubler, Slap Back Echo, Medium Echo, Long Echo, Dry (No Effect)

Rock Band Track Pack Vol. 1: Doubler, Slap Back, Echo, Chorus, No Effect

Is this notable? -- Rabin 00:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Shrink Pack 1 boxart image?
Is it within the imagine guidelines to take the one we have permission to use and shrink it somehow? I think if we did that it may help with the formatting issues we've been having. Maybe 75-80% of the current size? -- TRTX T / C 14:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Track Pack 2 will be available for 360
Unconfirmed, since it's not from HMX's mouths, but: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/rock-band-track-pack-2/achievements/

xbox360achievements gets the list from microsoft's site. THIS IS NOT THE AC/DC PACK, BUT A SEPERATE PACK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.175.52 (talk) 22:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Should Some one put in the release for rock band track pack vol.2???
i was wanting to know if someone should post info about rock band track pack vol 2. if you want more information, go to gamestop.com and search track packs. it stats that track pack vol 2 will be on the ps3, ps2, nintendo wii, and xbox 360. please some one return a note thing. this is my first time stating something in a discussion. so sorry if any errors. ~ slashaxl94
 * There is no additional info aside from a few random online listings. -- TRTX T / C 02:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Vol 2.
For the record, I don't like running with a new section built entirely around reports from online stores. These are not official sources, which are typically used for confirmation of new titles and content. I've restructured the article to sound more encylopedic, but I personally would rather have waited until there was more word from Harmonix... -- TRTX T / C 19:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 * To be fair, it's not entirely built around reports from online stores; it's simply that, at the moment, the Gamestop link has the most information, and most likely will until Harmonix decides to put out the official press release. Mind you, this is not the first time, nor is it likely to be the last, that Harmonix is beaten to the punch on their own announcements.  In any case, there is additional verification of the game's existence, achievements, and release date from other sources, which have been linked as references in the article. RevolverMadeOfVelvet (talk) 00:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

images
With TP2, as the cover is pretty much exactly the same save for being red instead of blue, a cover image is inappropriate per WP:NFCC requirements - there's no significance of a nearly-duplicate image which is only used to ID the game cover. --M ASEM 02:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing in WP:NFCC explicitly states that it would be inappropriate. If your rationale for removal is line 8, I would argue that it is important to be able to distinguish the two from each other, especially if there will be further Track Packs with further variations. RevolverMadeOfVelvet (talk) 15:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alternately, if you are referring to 3a, I would also argue that one item (in this case, the first volume's cover) cannot convey significant information in regards to the second volume's cover. It would be different if they were patently identical, but as they are not, I feel it should stay. With that said, if you choose to remove it again, I won't reinstate it; I'll leave it in your hands. Deal? RevolverMadeOfVelvet (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Revolver. I think it's important enough to include. Plus, the info box just looks so...empty, next to the other two.Mayy (talk) 02:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC art gone?
I noticed a bot swept in overnight and removed the image due to it being deleted. Was there a non-free problem? -- TRTX T / C 12:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It appears that it was removed by Stifle under WP:CSD#I6. RevolverMadeOfVelvet (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC Live reversion
There is an anon-IP who is insisting on deleting the information in the tables, despite two editors reverting, as well as multiple warnings. I have reported this user for violations of WP:3RR. I will also be requesting semi-protection until the IP user issue has been resolved. -- TRTX T / C 17:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well now we've gone and gotten the page fully protected. We have a longstanding practice of using in-game titles for all tracks/artists and this is just another example. I don't think anyone but this single IP has expressed disagreement with this practice. Hopefully we can get this page unprotected. Oren0 (talk) 20:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Great...now it's protected in the incorrect version even. Oddly enough this IP made the EXACT same edits.  And then when the second IP here was reported for 3RR...this IP magically appeared and made the same revision.  There's definately something shady going on here. -- TRTX T / C 23:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * What a lame thing to resort to sockpuppetry over. Hopefully we should get the article unprotected soon though. Oren0 (talk) 00:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

The sad thing of this whole situation is that it really isn't even an edit war...as the IP edits aren't being accompanied by talk notes or even an edit summary. It comes off more at this point as bullheaded vandalism and intentional inclusion of factual errors. -- TRTX T / C 00:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Explanation of consensus
It has been pointed out to me by the protecting admin that it's not clear what exactly these reversions are about. On this page and others in Category:Music video game soundtracks and its subcategories, situations often come up where a song's title, artist, or other information is listed differently in the game as it is elsewhere. As a convention, a large number of editors have agreed that the only way to avoid confusion is to always list things as they appear in the game. As far as I know, no regular editor in the music video game area disagrees with this. The IPs have not offered an opinion on the matter, nor have they explained why they believe this doesn't apply to this particular instance. Barring an explanation as to their reasoning, the IPs are simply edit warring to get their revision and have no intent of reaching consensus or compromise, which is why semi-protection should suffice. If these guy(s) want to be civil, we'd certainly listen to their input. Oren0 (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I did some digging, and one of the best examples of where this has been discussed before is here. There are others buried in the older archives on that page, but those are often buried in the middle of other discussions. -- TRTX T / C 00:29, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Further digging - Another example here. -- TRTX T / C 00:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I have unprotected the page; let's see what happens. Could I suggest however, that "Song title" as a heading for the table may be one source of confusion and that "Track Listing" or somesuch may more accurately reflect the fact that the table contents are taken verbatim from the game documentation. CIreland (talk) 01:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Exporting already downloaded songs?
Are there any references anywhere that indicates what happens if you use the export key for Track Pack 2, but have already downloaded say a couple of the songs on the disc? Best, --A NobodyMy talk 20:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there a source on this? -- TRTX T / C 05:20, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I'm wondering. If the songs are exportable, but you have already downloaded some songs previously (albeit not all on the Track pack) then does it create any problems?  I notice that similarly the SingStore has songs that appear on volume one available and I am wondering if that too creates a problem just as I see some of the new songs listed at List_of_songs_in_the_Karaoke_Revolution_series also appear on Karaoke Revolution Present American Idol Encore.  In any event, I think that if we can find sources on whether these create any issues that such things would be worthy of including (I actually looked at these articles hoping to find answers myself and I figure if I came to the articles trying to figure this out, then perhaps others did too.  Best, --A NobodyMy talk 05:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

AC/DC expansion: European release dates.
Just saw over on Play.com that they've got the AC/DC expansion up for sale with release dates for all 4 versions. According to them, the PS3 and  360 versions are coming out this Friday (19th December 2008), and they both retail for £29.99. They also say the Wii verions will cost £29.99, but that will come out on April 24th 2009. Same story with the PS2 version, but they say that will retail for £19.99.

MightyJordan (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Genre "vandal" frustration
Now that the official Rock Band is listed as a source, and linked to in the article. I'd like to ask that editors performing reversions to please begin using the "Deliberate factual error" warning template on the user page. It's getting incredibly frustrating having to revert the same two or three changes multiple times a day due to the same users who ignore talk pages, editor's notes, and the article content itself... -- TRTX T / C 23:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

ESRB rates "Rock Band Track Pack: Classic Rock"
Here. A few song lyrics, but right now not enough info for inclusion. -- TRTX T / C 21:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Joystiq article. Confirms four song titles (based on lyrics).  Still don't think there's enough to go on. -- TRTX T / C 21:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Update: Screenshots confirm more songs, including "Bad to the Bone". -- TRTX T / C 19:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Rock Band Track Pack: Classic Rock announced
HMX Confirmation. I'll need some help scooping info from the Press Release to update this section of the article (including the Info box) -- TRTX T / C 18:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Rock Band Track Pack: Classic Rock cover art
http://www.hardgame2.com/x360/noticia-45104.html

http://www.juegos.tv/blogjuegos/los-clasicos-regresan-de-la-mano-de-rock-band/

http://www.gamersdailynews.com/game-6799-Rock-Band-Track-Pack-Classic-Rock.html

http://www.gamefly.com/products/detail.asp?pid=136655

Danny10orama (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Images
At this point, I think having a cover for each game (3 which look exactly the same save for color and words and one that duplicates the artwork for the AC/DC album) is unnecessary and against our non-free content criteria. One image for the first game makes sense, but not for the rest. --M ASEM (t) 21:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the AC/DC art is valid. How often do movie based games share boxart with a film poster?  It's different enough from norm toi keep.  I wouldn't argue with the rest coming down. -- TRTX T / C 22:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

country pack
game stop has just told me that the rock band country track pack is going to be relesed just lettin you know —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.10.224 (talk) 01:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Any official source? Estemshorn (talk) 01:26, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There is only the GameStop listing thus far. I've been keeping an eye on ESRB site info, since they were also the ones that put out the first info about the Classic Rock pack. -- TRTX T / C 04:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Gamestop listing? i can't find it.. can you give a link?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estemshorn (talk • contribs) 04:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It was online briefly, but now it's not. The only time I've seen it since is in their in-store upcoming games booklet.  (Release date of July 21st or thereabouts) -- TRTX T / C 13:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Pearl Jam
It could be a good idea to indroduce what the pearl jam live track pack is about and tell that the tracks are decided by votes. Have a look : http://ps3.ign.com/articles/981/981822p1.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.4.158 (talk) 04:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is not necessarily a standalone track pack. It could be DLC, a standalone game, or a track pack.  Until that's clarified, it can't be added. --M ASEM  (t) 05:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Country Track Pack Cover Art
Could someone put up the cover art for this? This link http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74182 has it... 24.79.137.132 (talk) 22:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Metal Track pack coming 2009
An official HMX promotional video being shown at E3 includes a Metal Track Pack (feat. Screaming for Vegeance) in it's lineup of games for 2009. Link/video here. I would say it's legit, I'm just waiting for somebody to pick it up for a better ref than YouTube. -- TRTX T / C 14:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * An IP editor is attempting to remove the content. The "eyes closed" achievement is a joke regarding a song consisting entirely of talkies and how easily those can be beaten.  Please do not remove this content. -- TRTX T / C 00:04, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Rock Band Green Day
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/992/992980p1.html

Green Day: Rock Band track pack is coming someday... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.4.158 (talk) 06:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The specific comments said by Green Day leave much to be desired of exactly what they mean, and it makes no sense to guess if it is a track pack, DLC, or something else. --M ASEM (t) 06:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, we are going to have to wait on official confirmation until we can say that it is a track pack or something else. ESTEMSHORN talkSign 08:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Another song confirmed for Country Track Pack
The game's achievement list confirms "Suds in the Bucket" as a playable song. Groudon199 (talk) 21:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Adding. Looks like HMX is starting to get smart about leaking songs this way... -- TRTX T / C 00:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Metal Track Pack out now?
According to this statement, the game ships today. Does that mean it's out? Because that's almost a month early... -- TRTX T / C 22:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

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