Talk:Mu Online

Fansite links
Is it really necessary to include fansite links in the article? As far as I can see they don't add anything to it and it just feels like ads.--Overcow (talk) 17:33, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup
Some issues I'd like to see cleaned up here. I marked this thing with advert and inappropriate tone for the following reasons: The article needs some simplification in my opinion. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 13:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There's a few cases where the article goes a bit advertisatory like "Mu runs in a OpenGL engine, allowing lot of old computers playing in the great graphics at immersive experience." Bah, computer games have offered "immersive experiences" since 1992, what's so special about this? =) Just one example of all that. Also, some inapproriate tone, not really that much though ("...for extra fun...").
 * This article is HUGE and I think a lot of stuff about this could be cleared up - don't just explain what Mu Online is, explain how Mu Online is different from other MMORPGs and the rest will follow. For example, now there's an example on how the noto system works ("Outlaws and Heroes"); a lot of other games have had one too (Ultima Online, anyone?) so all you need to explain, in basic terms, is how it works on general terms. You don't need to expect that the reader has never heard of MMORPG terms. You're looking at an encyclopedia. Use some cross-references and links.
 * The item section is a major bore, if you don't mind me saying. People come here to get a light overview of some things, not detailed examples on how some things work in the games. They come here to see "this game has some 'leet items, such as (a couple of examples)...", not complete description of the whole shebang. Wikipedia is not a game guide; such information might be more appropriate for Wikibooks.


 * Can't agree more, this article is way to big and in a way way to bad. Tagged it.--Overcow&#39;s talky page&#123;&#123;fix&#124;link=Wikipedia:Contents&#124;text=citation needed}} (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Edit things based on Global
Some things are released in global, such as set items, but stop editting things because of your experiences in private servers. They are not credible so base information on global, since that is what this article is based on. Woopow 02:57, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * If you had any experience in private servers, you would know that they simply emulate all the latest features added by Webzen's developers. New features in private servers aren't just magically "hacked" in; this would take ridiculous amounts of human effort. Any professional new features present in private servers are new features straight from Webzen's developers. These new features are released in Mu Korea and Mu Philippines months before Global. I can't understand why you are trying to undo any mention of features not yet present in Mu Global. Any experienced Mu player should know that Global is always kept behind on updates. Why should we pretend features don't exist until they're implemented in Global? All the features we see on Mu Korea will be implemented in Mu Global, because they're both Mu. Mu Korea is just more of a "beta" server because it always has the latest versions; all the features are carried on to Mu Global after a few months. Any Mu server is Mu. Sampalmer4 05:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * You keep removing the sentence stating that ancient items are currently unavailable in Global Mu. Is this because they are actually available? Sampalmer4 05:22, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Just to note, this article is about Mu Online in general, not specifically about Global. About private server, Mu pservers are major and removing all mention of them is a POV.  This has to discuss everything about it, not only the "official" information.  -- Prod-You 16:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The actual problem is on naming the sets. Taking as an example the last Elf set, I've seen it named Scorpion, Sylpidray and Sylpid Ray. We can't really name it properly because it varies with the game version, and naming it from the last version avaiable isn't an easy task. We would have to get the name from the Korea version, but it is rare to find someone able to do that translation.
 * You're right. We should stick to the names that are used in global, now that its actually changed to an "official" (not beta) servers.  If there are other major naming differences with other versions it might be best to mention them. For example, we say its Sylpid Ray, but note that it could also be called Scorpion. -- Prod-You 19:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The problem with not editing things based on global is that private servers are modified. I see people editing the article saying "dark lords are the strongest characters," they are unfair, etc. and that Crywolf has strong monsters that no one can beat where really it is an event map. The information based on a private server is too inaccurate and varies too much between all the different servers, and for the most part is very inaccurate for a real mu server. Woopow 21:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

If a feature is currently in one of the 'official' Mu versions, it should be mentioned. Naming should be done based on Global, unless there is no name, then it should be from whichever 'official' version has it. This could mean the name is in chinese, korean, or whatever other language (perhaps with a direct english translation). Translated names from private servers should not be here because anyone can name the items anything they want. Private servers should only be mentioned to say they exist and lots of people play them; in game information should not be taken from pserves and put up here. -- Prod-You 17:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Here here.--KX36 (talk) 08:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

About linking to specific private servers
Firstly, Wikipedia isn't meant to be used to advertise. The concept of having a link to a good private server isn't a bad idea, but considering that everyone has access to editing Wikipedia's articles, things could get out of hand; all server owners would want to post their private servers here to leech from Wikipedia's huge amounts of traffic.Sampalmer4 05:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * There are very few pserves that even stay up for a notable period. There are maybe 1 or 2 i know of that have been up for very long, and I doubt they'd come to wikipedia to advertise since theyre already quite large, so in the end, pserve links shouldn't be here. --Prod-You 03:26, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Advertising
217.123.198.161 13:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm running one of the major pservers, and I have been online ever since September 2005. Currently we have got working features that the 'official' muglobal does not have yet, such as the crywolf event, such as full season 2 support (kanturu maps / kanturu event). Etc.

I don't know if I should add my server here, since mine is really major. We just cleaned up, and we had 278,000 accounts that we wiped, to migrate to the season 2 database.

Just your thoughts on this one...
 * To note, he is talking about FrienzMu. I am somewhat against the fact that you are using sourceforge without sharing any source but it is a fairly large server so may be notable.  I am moving it out of the official section though, since it isn't official.  -- Prod-You 17:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think any private servers deserve specific mention, just perhaps a mention that this game attracts a lot of unofficial servers. When you say features that aren't in the official server; you're only talking about K2's "global" server; which is behind the asian servers anyway. you have to remember that although the most played in the western world is global, the asian ones do have support for these new features before you and theirs actually works well because it isn't hacked up from a very old file set to imitate features which that file set doesn't support.--KX36 (talk) 08:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Criticism
Why is there nothing in this page about criticism of this game, this page strikes me as a little to commercial...almost like an advert for the game rather than a wikipedia article. i would write one myself as i used to play the game but i am not yet that confident in my writing skills. some topics which could be put into the criticism section could include lack of questing and other methods to add to the storyline, general repetitivness of the game as well as the levelling difficulty which is far more difficult than in other games. -- Zendainc 17:06, 27 march 2007 (PST)
 * Have you got any published criticism to cite or just your own complaints. I can barely find anything objective published at all about this game.--KX36 (talk) 07:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * About 1998 I play a MU MORPG- ZEN web was not active, beside Lorencia,Noria maps- Lost tower maps ends at number 7. Strongest mob was Balrog. Version 0.65d-there is someone remember correct numbers? - I had one partner from Chile- Quadcannon and one from Brasil -Petrivaci, connection was ftp-modem 14k phone line. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.35.21.111 (talk) 11:26, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

? since when did K2 make Mu online?
I noticed that the article states that K2 made MU. This is incorrect, Webzen was the developer/producer. K2 is just the publisher now. Fixed it.MuRocks 06:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Come again?
The "payment" section is written like an advertisment. Someone fix it quick.. =)

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Seasons
There are a few mentions through the article of three "seasons"; but no explanation of what this means. I assume it means major revisions of the game. I think someone should write a history of the game with what's in each season. This should be very feasible as if Global is on season 3 now as the article seems to suggest, what's in season 1 and season 2 should be unchanging. This could be as simple as lists of features added and removed during seasons 2 and 3, but would have to have some prose about season 1 (i.e. anything before season 2).--KX36 (talk) 08:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

K2 Network
I noticed there was an editor removing links to K2 Network from Mu Online. If they are no longer involved with the project (and their website doesn't indicate this), that's not the appropriate means of saying so, especially if there's no reliable source claiming this. Rather, they need to be listed as a former publisher, along with a link - and even so, they don't aren't necessarily delisted from the infobox.

As a side note, there's also no need for the large number of external links to the individual site. This is about Global Mu Online, and the translated versions can still exist on the forign-language Wikipedias. --Sigma 7 (talk) 17:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)