Talk:My Love from the Star

Title
Actual English title is My Love From Another Star see Dramafever and co. --87.148.75.102 (talk) 20:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree on the name 'My Love from Another Star'.Db9023 (talk) 02:51, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Requested move 5 July 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 (talk) 11:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

My Love from the Star → My Love from Another Star – News articles use it, according to Google News. Hulu uses it as well. --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 17:43, 12 July 2015 (UTC) George Ho (talk) 07:44, 5 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment in Google News results, proposed title is outnumbered nearly 5:1 by both "You Who Came From the Stars" and by the current title. (If you filter out -kdramastars -allkpop from all the searches - since some WP:RSN threads expressed concern about sites like those, e.g. here, it's more like 2:1 and 5:1 respectively.) 58.176.246.42 (talk) 05:36, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose. SBS' own international website lists it under current title:, as well as Korea's offiial tourism website. I think we should use the title SBS uses, since it is their product. How other websites translate the Korean original title is irrelevant, regardless of Google search results. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  09:02, 14 July 2015 (UTC)


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Plot & Episodes list
At Manual_of_Style/Film, we can read: Plot summaries are self-contained sections ("Plot", "Plot summary") in film articles that complement wider coverage about the films' production, reception, themes, and other real-world aspects, per Wikipedia's policy on writing about fiction. Since films are primary sources in their articles, basic descriptions of their plots are acceptable without reference to an outside source. As Wikipedia's policy on primary sources says, "... a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by a reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge ... Do not make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about information found in a primary source." Since the film is the primary source and the infobox provides details about the film, citing the film explicitly in the plot summary's section is not necessary. Exceptions to the rule include upcoming films and "lost" films (which are not available to the public to verify), for which editors should use secondary sources.

But it seems that User:Aoba47 has her own personal opinion. Pldx1 (talk) 21:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I am man so that is the first thing. My Love from the Star is a television series not a film so what you have cited above does not apply to this article. If you feel there are issues with my review, you can post a message on the GAN talk page or open another GAN request to get another user's perspective. Aoba47 (talk) 21:54, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * But you closed the GAN talk page within minutes of creation. Please see WP:GAN/I (Step 4): Other editors are also welcome to comment and work on the article, but a responsive nominator and reviewer can complete a review in about seven days. Reviewers can shorten/ extend the time limit if they wish but it doesn't mean minute. Thank You, Siddiqsazzad001   '''  05:12, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Dear User:Aoba47. You opened this review at 20:26, 25 January 2019‎ ... and you closed it at  20:29, 25 January 2019‎. This reflects poorly about your openness to a discussion, but I am quite sure this was not your intent. Now, you have been told that your comments are seen as questionable by at least two persons, and therefore must be discussed. (1) Are you really saying that a television series is not a primary source about itself ? (2) Your comment: the article should have the list of the episodes and summaries for each doesn't seem to be founded on any policy. Moreover, the series is not a collection of independent episodes, but a continuous flow that has been sliced for obvious reasons. Therefore, I think that the best procedure is that you strikes your closure and reopens the discussion for a reasonable period of time.Pldx1 (talk) 12:18, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * By the way, the joke introduced by User:Jool091 at 17:00, 23 March 2014, namely: Son Eun-seo as hwang jini (ep 4) should have been detected: there was a citation needed tag for a reason. Pldx1 (talk) 12:42, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

If either of you feel that my review was done incorrectly, then you are more than welcome to open up a new GAN and ask for another reviewer at the GAN talk page. I did a quick fail on the GAN, because I felt that there were too many issues to be addressed during a review. A quick fail can be done by a reviewer if they feel there are substantial issues with the article. I still maintain there are several issues with the citations. The references are inconsistent used in the "Cast" section as only some of the actors are cited, while others are not. Also, there are several instances of bare URLs that are not formatted properly. See references 52 through 55 as an example of this. Also, the citation needed tag should have been addressed before a GAN (and it still has not been addressed). And by the way, thank you for not apologizing to me for misgendering me. I will ping to get their perspective as they are very involved with the GAN process. I will not be reopening my discussion, and if you really feel that this is ready for a GAN, then just follow my advice above (by opening a new GAN and requesting for a reviewer on the GAN talk page). Aoba47 (talk) 14:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Since I have been pinged, I will do my best to respond.
 * The article clearly needs work in various areas: per MOS:LEAD, there shouldn't be any significant information in the lead section that is not also in the body of the article, so basically everything that is in the lead needs to be expanded upon in the body of the article, and some of information is probably unnecessary to the lead (given the article's size, the lead shouldn't be longer than two paragraphs), while other information from the body should be added there. However, this shouldn't take so very long to rectify, and would not be a reason to quick fail it. Nor is having citations in the lead. This is not at all unusual in terms of what needs fixing in a GA review.
 * Whether a film, television show, book, or similar work, on Wikipedia, it is considered its own valid primary source as to what has happened in terms of plot/synopsis, so sourcing is not considered needed beyond the work itself. Anything beyond a straightforward account does require secondary sourcing, but that doesn't seem to apply to the synopsis here. Again, not a quickfail consideration.
 * While there shouldn't be bare URLs, it's an easily fixable problem: there are automated tools, and even manual edits would take very little time.
 * There does need to be more sourcing for the cast. However, a single "citation needed" template is not a quickfail consideration; the criteria are very clear that it's large numbers of such.
 * I haven't seen many television series GAs, but I can't recall any without episode listings. Still, this is something I'd check with the TV wikiproject before deciding episodes should be insisted on, especially if there are existing GAs or even FAs without. However, basic facts about episodes, such as their running length, should be in the body of the article, never only in the infobox. The Awards section is completely inadequate, with only a link to a list article; a prose summary of the important accolades should be given here, and it should have more detail than what's currently in the lead.
 * The first thing that struck me about this nomination is that it had waited over nine months for a reviewer to select it. Under such circumstances, an article should be so far from ready that sufficient improvements couldn't be accomplished within a week after diligent work for a quickfail to be considered. (There are prose issues and others currently, but a complete review would uncover all the issues, something the article never got.)
 * Simply suggesting that the nominators open a new GAN strikes me as not very helpful: putting them at the back of a line that stretches up to ten months after they've already waited for more than nine is a very difficult pill to swallow. If Aoba47 would reopen the nomination and request a second opinion and/or a new reviewer to take a look, I think that would be a gracious solution here. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the response. If possible, could you reopen the nomination then and request a second opinion as I am not sure how to do that? I think that I have done it but I am not sure; if you believe that a comment in the nomination is necessary, then feel free to add one. Thank you in advance. Aoba47 (talk) 21:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I fixed some of issues per GA1: and .  Siddiqsazzad001   '''  05:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Siddiqsazzad001, it's a good start. Thanks. You'll want to continue working on changes, since although you've removed the citations from the lead, you need to insert that information and the sourcing into the body of the article. You'll want to revise the lead text per MOS:LEAD as I noted in my comments here, and address the other issues raised by Aoba47 in the original review and the rest of the things I mentioned above. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:26, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Cast
Hi! Will you please help me to add citation in the cast section? Because I am not familiar with Korean reference. :-) Siddiqsazzad001   '''  08:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Dear Siddiqsazzad001. YOU have taken the burden to put this article to the status of GA. My opinion was that your request deserved a fair review, giving hints about what is to be improved. Now you have obtained one. Its up to you to do the job now. By the way, this article needs some more details about the extravaganza that followed the release of this drama. A quick Google search leads, inter alia, to:  https://www.trazy.com/theme/mylovefromthestars ; https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g2024864-d3136736-r562839474-Petite_France-Gapyeong_gun_Gyeonggi_do.html ; https://www.habkorea.com/my-love-from-the-star-day-tour ; https://archidrama.wordpress.com/tag/my-love-from-another-star/ ;  etc. How to miss Jangsado ? How to miss chimaek ?
 * Concerning Korean references, this is simple. Either you read Korean, and references are as usual. Either you don't and you have to remember that you are asserting that each and any reference does the job and proves what is supposed to be proven. Pldx1 (talk) 12:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Moreover, any series is a primary source about itself: any reference to the credits listed at the end of any episode is a sufficient proof of the fact that such and such actor was involved with the series ! Pldx1 (talk) 13:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Seriously, "archidrama.wordpress.com". Actually, you don’t bother. I will fix that soon. Siddiqsazzad001   '''  16:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I fixed References. As you said, Awards section is completely inadequate, with only a link to a list article. I fixed that too. But what to do with the list of the episodes and summaries as Aoba47 mentioned? Is it required? Siddiqsazzad001   '''  16:07, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Siddiqsazzad001, I'm going to be bowing out now; no need to ping me further. I've just done some formatting and a partial copyedit of the article, adding a couple of "citation needed" templates that you're going to need to take care of with new sourcing. (The one about the Thai plagiarism is going to require a good, reliable source, if you wish to retain that paragraph.) In general, there does need to be additional work on the prose; the final couple of phrases in the Main cast entry for Do Min-joon are an example of what needs to be improved. I don't see that you've taken any information from the lead and added it to the body of the article: the producers and director and writer aren't mentioned at all (they'd typically be in the Production section at least, along with casting decisions and possibly the information about the stars having worked together previously and whether that had anything to do with their casting together here). As you'll note from my post on the review page, I don't know whether the episodes list would be required—the new reviewer can let you know that for sure—but in the meantime you could inquire at WT:TV. However, I did see that there is a, which would seem to indicate that television articles should generally have episode lists. The "Episode table" template will be handy if you do one. Best of luck going forward. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:19, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Siddiqsazzad001   '''  06:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Further comments
Great. The article looks far better now ! Allusion to chimaek craze is ok. And now, some details about Jangsado (aka Jangsa Island) would help to underline how the craze around this drama was country-wide, and not only limited to Seoul. Pldx1 (talk) 09:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Removed text
CC-BY-SA declaration; text in this section removed from the article because I'm removing plot details from the Cast section. I'm leaving the entire section here in case my removal breaks any existing references; and for the benefit of future editors.  Baffle☿gab  11:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Main

 * Jun Ji-hyun as Cheon Song-yi
 * Kim Hyun-soo as young Cheon Song-yi / Yi-hwa
 * A top Hallyu star who is very blunt and airheaded and believes that she is every man's type, until she meets her stoic neighbor, Do Min-joon. She soon develops feelings for him. In her youth she appears identical to Yi-hwa, who lived 400 years ago in the Joseon era.


 * Kim Soo-hyun as Do Min-joon
 * A very cold and distant being, during the Joseon period he loved a young girl Yi-hwa for liking him as his true self, an alien. After Yi-hwa dies while saving him, he waits to return home. Living a lonely and isolated life for centuries, he one day meets Cheon Song-yi, a girl who at her young age, looked exactly like Yi-hwa 400 years ago and whom he once saved. Min-joon and Song-yi fall for each other after he saved her life at a wedding.


 * Park Hae-jin as Lee Hee-kyung
 * Jo Seung-hyun as young Lee Hee-kyung
 * The youngest son of a chaebol founder, he is Song-yi's childhood friend who has an unrequited love for her. He believes one day she will love him, but decides to back down for a while, supporting her through thick and thin as a true friend.


 * Yoo In-na as Yoo Se-mi
 * Kim Hye-yoon as young Yoo Se-mi
 * Song-yi's childhood best friend. Underneath her sweet demeanor and melodious leverage, she is actually envious of Song-yi and has had a crush on Hee-kyung for a long time. She gains leading roles and sponsorship as a result of Song-yi's fall from the entertainment industry.


 * Shin Sung-rok as Lee Jae-kyung
 * Hee-kyung's older brother, the director and heir apparent of chaebol S&C Group. The main antagonist of the series, he is willing to silence people that know dark secrets about him.


 * Ahn Jae-hyun as Cheon Yoon-jae
 * Jeon Jin-seo as young Cheon Yoon-jae
 * Song-yi's younger brother, who is initially estranged from his sister due to her success, but nonetheless defends her against insults from his classmates. When her career hits rock-bottom, he moves into her home to support her. Yoon-jae develops a kinship with Min-joon because of their shared interest in astronomy.

Cheon Song-yi's family

 * Na Young-hee as Yang Mi-yeon, Song-yi's mother


 * Um Hyo-sup as Cheon Min-goo, Song-yi's father

People around Cheon Song-yi

 * Hong Jin-kyung as Bok-ja, a comic book store owner and Song-yi's high school friend


 * Jo Hee-bong as President Ahn, CEO of Song-yi's talent agency


 * Kim Bo-mi as Min-ah, Song-yi's stylist


 * Kim Kang Hyun as Yoon Bum, Song Yi's manager

People around Do Min-joon

 * Kim Chang-wan as Jang Young-mok
 * Min-joon's lawyer who serves as close confidant and "father figure". When he was young, he was saved by Min-joon during a suicide attempt and found out about his identity, being one of the few humans to accept Min-joon's nature instead of fearing it.

Lee Hee-kyung's family

 * Lee Jung-gil as Lee Beom-joong, Hee-kyung's father and the chairman of S&C Group


 * Sung Byung-sook as Hong Eun-ah, Hee Kyung's mother

Yoo Se-mi' family

 * Oh Sang-jin as Yoo Seok
 * Se-mi's older brother. A young and enthusiastic prosecutor who investigates Han Yoo-ra's death. He finds out about Do Min-joon's real identity.


 * Lee Il-hwa as Han Sun-young, Se-mi's mother

Others

 * Kim Hee-won as Park Byung-hee
 * A detective, who works together with Yoo Seok.


 * Lee Yi-kyung as Lee Shin, Jae-kyung's secretary


 * Choi Hyo-eun as Hyo-na

Special appearances

 * Yoo In-young as Han Yoo-ra
 * An actress, who is Cheon Song-yi's arch-rival


 * Yoo Jun-sang as Mr. Yoo (ep. 2-3)
 * Section Chief at Lee Hee-kyung's workplace


 * Serri as herself (ep. 3)
 * A junior actress


 * Subin as herself (ep. 3)
 * A junior actress


 * Park Jung-ah as Noh Seo-young (ep. 4)
 * A top actress, who held a cruise wedding


 * Jang Hang-jun as Park Min-kyu (ep. 4)
 * A director, who was a guest at the cruise wedding


 * Son Eun-seo as Hwang Jini (ep. 4)
 * A kisaeng during Joseon era


 * Kim Soo-ro as Lee Hyung-wook (ep. 5)
 * An auditor in Gangwon during Joseon era


 * Jung Eun-pyo as Yoon Sung-dong (ep. 6 & 12)
 * A Joseon realtor / Yoon Sung-dong's descendant in present time


 * Park Yeong-gyu as Heo Jun (ep. 11)
 * A doctor during Joseon era


 * Bae Suzy as Go Hye-mi (ep. 17)
 * Do Min-joon's student (parody of Dream High whom she starred alongside Kim Soo-hyun)


 * Yeon Woo-jin as Lee Han-kyung (ep. 18)
 * Lee Hee-kyung's eldest brother


 * Ryu Seung-ryong as Heo Gyun (ep. 19)
 * A poet during Joseon era

 Baffle☿gab  11:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sandara Park as herself (ep. 21)

DYK
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