Talk:Natsume Atari

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Software company? [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 00:54, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * D If known good article must should more write well. Chris 01:33, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * No vote. Natsume is a video game company. It hasn't published any huge hits, but its Harvest Moon games are cult classics. This has the potential to be a keepable article, if someone wants to clean it up; if not, delete it, because sometimes an article like this is worse than no article at all, in my opinion. Garrett Albright 03:47, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a real video game company, and it's published a few noteworthy games. If I recall correctly, Harvest Moon got some press back when it first came out. Also, I rewrote the entry to be NPOV and a bit more informative. Harvest Moon itself probably deserves at least a small entry, too.
 * I notice now that Harvest Moon already has an entry. Even more definitely keep. (That, and I forgot to sign). Modargo 08:05, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable company. My brother owns a Harvest Moon game. Could do with serious expansion though. It barley escapes the substub label. No[[User_talk:norm|rm]] 12:08, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Doesn't remotely fulfil any of the criteria for deletion.  (actually an important games publisher.)--Tomheaton 16:16, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Yes, it needs expansion... but, hey, they developed the Harvest Moon games. seems notable - 'Natsume game' gets about 71,500 hits on Google. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 16:39, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. It indeed needs an expansion, but it IS a notable company. Nadavspi 19:20, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. Radman1 14:58, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)
 * KEEP! How about Googling these things before trying to delete them? Natsume's an important company in the games industry. Andre ( talk )A| 14:43, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Natsume is definitely a notable video game company. Take for example the classic Pocky & Rocky for the SNES. You should really Google or check for example Gamefaqs before trying to delete articles. The article should of course be expanded, though. Zelda 20:33, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

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Needs distinction between Natsume Inc. and Natsume Co., Ltd
this article refers to Natsume Inc. (USA) as a subsidiary of Natsume Co., Ltd (Japan, now Natsume Atari) and treats them pretty much as the same entity, but they currently aren't, and apparently haven't been for quite some time:

Interview with Natsume Inc. CEO Hiro Maekawa

"Natsume Inc. acts independently of Natsume Co. Ltd. There is a relationship between both companies but Natsume Inc. is not a subsidiary of Natsume Co. Ltd. Natsume Inc. is free to develop and license titles from any partners we see fit. Thus, all decision making starts and ends with the office in the U.S."

I recall reading somewhere that Natsume Inc was founded as a subsidiary of Natsume Co., Ltd but they became independent sometime in the mid-90s, but I can't find the source of this - but at a guess it's probably the 1994 date Maekawa took over the company or the 1995 date it was "re-organised" as per Maekawa's interview. 82.11.93.218 (talk) 22:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It's best to cover the split as a section within this article until there is enough reliable, secondary source coverage to write a separate article about whichever would split off. czar  22:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

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Split the US company into its own article?
This article is basically trying to cover two completely separate game companies, and the fact that their names are so similar and that they've changed their names as well just adds to the confusion, splitting it into 2 articles would be better in my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.37.33.132 (talk) 08:14, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree that the article should be split. These companies were once directly related, but it's been nearly 25 years since that stopped being true. The fact that both are still around as independent entities suggests they're deserving of their own separate articles. Damnedfan1234 (talk) 20:23, 16 November 2020 (UTC)