Talk:Satan

Accusations of worship
Are Atheistic Satanists also accused of worshipping Satan? 70.27.84.88 (talk) 00:52, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * LaVeyan Satanism is atheistic, believing in neither a personal god nor a personal devil. Moxy 🍁 01:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2024
Jithin 2409:4073:2116:2D96:A959:2340:9820:993B (talk) 07:20, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tollens (talk) 09:00, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

"Satan had minimal role in medieval Christian theology"
This is demonstrably false, and conflicts with the numerous medieval portraits of Satan displayed on the page. Every medieval commentary on the Gospels, the Epistles, Revelation, Job and Genesis at least would mention Satan (or, the "devil").

St. Thomas Aquinas mentions of Satan:

https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~Job.C1.L2.n11 (the commentary on the Book of Job alone has 50 mentions)

https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.I.Q112.A3

https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.I.Q114.A4

https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.I-II.Q98.A2.SC

https://aquinas.cc/la/en/~ST.II-II.Q10.A2.C

Other Medievals:

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/120121.htm (St. Augustine)

https://franciscan-archive.org/lombardus/II-Sent.html (Peter of Lombard, and thus, all the medievalists and academics of the time who were required to write a commentary on the Sentences, would mention Satan; think of St. Bonaventure, William of Ockham, Bl. Duns Scotus, etc)

https://sacred-texts.com/chr/ans/ans117.htm https://sacred-texts.com/chr/ans/ans118.htm (St. Anselm)

There are of course many more, since Satan is a pivotal point to the entirety of Christian theology, and wasn't magically forgotten in the Medieval Era. Further, the source listed (https://books.google.com/books?id=pWYqgsRLXykC&q=Satan+and+Puritanism&pg=PA15#v=snippet&q=Satan%20and%20Puritanism&f=false) does not say or even imply that Satan had a minimal role in Medieval Christian theology, but rather his role was diverse. Further, the source is clearly incredibly bias against traditional Christianity, using classic polemics to attack Christianity, and as such I am not even sure why it is accepted as authoritative. LambdaLover (talk) 18:08, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Greetins,
 * I first wanted to explain that sources need to be read precisely, but since the sourc eitself has been discredited entirely as "attack on traditional Christianity", you first need to demonstrate that, as you are the one making the proposal. If this is not of any importance, when why mentioning it? If the source is misrepresented, as you said before attacking the source itself, when please continue to explain how the source is misinterpreted. Now, there is just a bunch of links when Medieval scholars mention Satan, and noone is surprised that this happened to be the case in a story focuing on Satan. VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 22:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)