Talk:Selena Gomez/Archive 1

Early Life??
I don't think her "Early Life" section should include the fact that she met Selena's family.

--Melazeee (talk) 21:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Why not ?( it isnt that important) It's important to mention that she met the family of the person she was named after. Of course, it would have been more notable if she had met Selena herself, but still how many people have met Selena's family ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.74.105.81 (talk) 03:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Its not that important, but if it should be mentioned then it shouldn't be in the "Early Life" section, which is what I was pointing out. --melaneeeee; (talk) 22:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

There are few facts that are incorrect. She was born in, Texas not in New York City. Also, her fathers name is Ricardo Joel Gomez, and her mothers name is Mandy Dawn Cornett. This information comes from the Texas Birth index 1903-1997 on www.ancestry.com. ---{User:Amynoah2000} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amynoah2000 (talk • contribs) 02:56, 30 January 2009
 * None of the birth info was sourced, so I removed it. Texas Birth Index would show us that someone named "Selena Gomez" was born on whatever date, wherever. We need a reliable source that says where and when this Selena Gomez was born. Ancestry.com is not a reliable source. - SummerPhD (talk) 13:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Family
I think her sisters names should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellylyn93 (talk • contribs)

Selena Gomez has no sibilings Madison is Demi Lovato's half sister no Selena's —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.150.44.217 (talk) 19:10, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * It is not notable, please stop requesting this. Also, please remember to sign your posts. --Pilotboi / talk / contribs 19:13, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

If you delete it again, I will report you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellylyn93 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Selena Gomez doesnt have any siblings... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.195.18 (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Selena Gomez DOES NOT have any other siblings. She's an only child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.94.247 (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

She is not an only child she has a sister named Madison she is a ragular in Dispret house wizes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimmy852 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the above was thinking of Madison De La Garza? Gimmetrow 02:06, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Named for Selena
The Express News article I linked in the previous section also mentions that she is named for the Tejano singer Selena, with Gomez's dad being a big Selena fan. I would think that would be an interesting addition, but am not really sure where it would fit in. - TexasAndroid 18:20, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

When was she born? Because it says she was born on 1992 meaning she has to be fifteen but her birthday is July 22 that would mean she is 15 going on to 16 which that would mean she can't be 16 but all the sites say the same information what's true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.35.54 (talk) 01:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Some people are mistaken that Selena's middle name is Kaleigh but, her middle name is actually Marie, like it says there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollistergirl89 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Selena was bprn in San Diego, California and her best friend as a child was Dana Lamb. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.63.225 (talk) 09:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Filmography
She played a small role as the girl from the water park in Spy Kids 3-D: Game Over. Is that significant enough to be added?--Pupperooni (talk) 02:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

She also played in 3 episodes of Hannah Montana, not 2. NicolasRH (talk • contribs) 01:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Just recentally she stared in a movie called another cinderella story staring singer and actor drew sealy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by contribs) 08:36 22 September 2008(UTC)

she also played gwen in the suite life of zack and cody —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.222.16 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 6 October 2008
 * And is already in the article. Gimmetrow 04:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

don't forget her role as alex russo in wizards of waverly place and who needs proof of that just watch the show on disney chanel!!!

Stub
can I add the stub tag to this article? I think it is too short. --Kushalt 18:11, 23 December 2007 (UTC) She is going to be starring in a movie with Demi Lavoto called Princess Protection Program. (They announced this on their YouTube show) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SelenaDCD123 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC) Her middle name is NOT Marie. According to Radio Disney, it's Kayliegh. (Don't know if that's spelled right.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.94.247 (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Myspace
Selena Gomez's Myspace Page Should Be Added So That People Can Contact Her And Listen To Her Music.

Www.Myspace.com/OfficialSelenaGomezMusic

(Ive Already reseach And Have Found Out Its The Real One Because She Has Proof) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShazzaBabyxo (talk • contribs) 02:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

This is not the real one! She and her friend Demi Lovato have a youtube account (therealdemilovato) where they post 'vlogs'. Someone sent a question asking if she had a myspace, and she said that her myspace was at www.myspace.com/selenagomez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.202.63 (talk) 16:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think the second myspace link is the correct one.Dvferret (talk) 22:56, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Its www.myspace.com/selenagomez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.115.178.51 (talk) 23:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Jesua, Selena didn`t sing If Cupid had a heart-he lip singed on Hannah Montana but she can sing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.195.18 (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Vanidlism?
the entry has been semi protected but who was vandalizing anyway? what did they say and why?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.202.63 (talk) 15:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

On june 4th, 2009 Selena Gomez' myspace was hacked and someone posted a blog on her myspace. She twittered that she was sorry to anyone who read it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emg123123 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

What the Heck?
We should remove the movie in 2008 that says that the title is unknown and that the role is unknown. that is just messed up. it doesnt cite a source, either. it would be fine if there was a source, but there isnt.Igglybuff63 (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Arwin! and What's Stevie Thinking
im just wondering why these were dropped.Igglybuff63 (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I know it doesn't make much since. -LLR

They should have a seperate page for the Suite Life of Zack and Cody's spinoff Arwin!


 * Because some people dont know what they are doing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dvferret (talk • contribs) 22:53, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Add a picture!
May someone please add a picture to this page! It will make it more informational and offcial. I'm surprised no one has yet. I would, but I don't know how! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccer5525 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Most people have already added Selena's image to this page, but they appeared to be fair use images. You must place free use images to biography articles, never fair use (copyrighted) images. --staka (T ・C) 20:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * What we need is a picture someone took and released for free use under an appropriate free-use license. See WP:IUP image use policy for lots of details. Most pictures easily available are pro photoshoot pictures and cannot be used as the copyright is held by the photographer and/or agency and they want money from the pictures so won't give them away like Wiki needs them to do for us to use them. This is a real problem for all bio articles - free use pictures are like gold if you can find one. --NrDg 00:19, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I happen to have an image of Selena right now, but I don't know if it is a free photo or not. I also don't know how to add it to the article. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I need a little help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soccer5525 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If you yourself didn't take the picture with your own camera we probably can't use it. If you just found it somewhere on the net you will need to link to where you found it and prove the the photographer released it for free use. If the picture was taken by a pro it will not be free use as we require as pros don't do that. Suggest you read WP:IUP before even thinking about uploading a photo for a bio article. --NrDg 23:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * So that means we cant use any off of the IMDB (not sure if they are fair use, free use,...)? Why cant they be fair use?  That seems a bit ridiculous.Dvferret (talk) 22:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

why don't we try google? all of the pictures on the site have been released for free use —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.70.92 (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean - images cached by google may be copyrighted and are not necessarily "free use" in Wikipedia terms. Gimmetrow 13:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

well they are cuz someone put thier pic on the internet, one of the biggest sights EVER knowing that anyone will be able to use them, isn't that free use???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.70.92 (talk) 02:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Images on the internet are not automatically free to use, especially by other websites, unless that freedom is clearly granted by the terms of the website. Gimmetrow 23:36, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

which is what is granted for google! free pictures,links and search engines. isn't that there motto??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mininoipod37 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Google doesn't own images on someone else's website - finding a copyrighted image through a google search doesn't make it non-copyrighted. Gimmetrow 14:45, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've found a free image, I'm now putting the image up. -- 'Kanonkas' :  Talk 07:30, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Middle name
I think you should put her real middle name-Selena Marie Gomez —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longhairedcutie (talk • contribs) 21:46, 16 April 2008
 * Do you have any reliable sources giving that middle name? If there is any reasonable doubt, we shouldn't have it. Most fansites seem to list a different middle name than you suggested. Although fansites are not reliable, information which doesn't correspond needs to be sourced or it won't be stable. Gimmetrow 22:02, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I got it from the magazine, Popstar!. It was a quick interview on a clipboard. You should look into it.

HER MIDDLE NAME IS MARIE PROOF: http://selenaweb.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=192&pos=10 THIS SURVEY WAS WRITTEN BY HER KAYLEIGH WAS A RUMOR THAT WAS NEVER PROVEN —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleykatherine (talk • contribs) 00:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I added Marie as her middle name a long time ago, and no one has deleted it. I'm surprised, but happy! Soccer5525 (talk) 12:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)Soccer5525

Who changed Selena's middle name to Anne? Is there proof her middle name is Anne? --Soccer 5525 ( Tk  • Ctrb ) 13:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It is stated on her IMDB web page that her middle name is Anne. This article does not include a middle name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.64.84 (talk) 12:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

IMDb is not a reliable source for anything disputed or controversial. Gimmetrow 15:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

On Selena's International Movie DataBase page, it states that her middle name is, in fact, Anne. 96.233.111.13 (talk) 21:30, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

More proof that it is Marie, check out the description for this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SSUGOM4v9gSpears154 (talk) 21:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Her middle name is Kayleigh. It says so in her biography —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.184.168.242 (talk) 22:45, 20 October 2008 (UTC) YouTube is not a reliable source. Edgehead5150 (talk) 04:32, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so I guess Selena herself is not a reliable source either. Because she made that video herself. Spears154 (talk) 04:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Selena made the video but we don't know if she's the only one with access to her channel. The video might have been uploaded by someone else who just added a middle name. Edgehead5150 (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC) Selena has 2 accounts, one is her own called TheRealSelenaGomez she is the only one with acces to the chanel, she also has one with Demi Lovato(i dont know what it is called)Lvato would not sobotage her BFF! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mininoipod37 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Placeholder
This article is receiving copyvio after copyvio. The placeholder seems to encourage that, and should be removed. Gimmetrow 22:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm conflicted. From an assume good faith perspective the placeholder does advertise a need for an image and someone might have actually taken a picture with their own camera that we could use. Practically all it seems to be doing is encouraging people to look for pictures on the web and upload them ignoring the free-use requirement. User:David Gerard appears to be on a campaign to add the placeholders. I think we should keep them and just remove the bad images. Pragmatically, I investigate all the added images and a lot of time it leads to a trove of bad uploads by an editor. --NrDg 22:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

She's Mexican
I'm a 100 percent sure that she's of Mexican descent. And besides the largest Hispanic group in the United States are the Mexicans.
 * She was born in New York so just as much chance to be Puerto Rico, Cuban, Spanish or other central or South American descent. Also people in Texas are more likely to be Tejano, not Mexican. Find a reference that explicitly mentions descent. --NrDg 20:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * She is half mexican and half italian. Just like in her show.
 * Where is the proof she is half mexican half italian? that sounds stupid. If you can get proof and cite references the information will be put in the article. But i thought she was born in Texas.. either that, or she was raised there.--Tiah12345 (talk) 09:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

she is half mexican half italian in the show wizards of waverly place... probably not in real life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.222.16 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 6 October 2008
 * Actual sources are mentioned in the article. Gimmetrow 04:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Selena Gomez is an American (U.S. Citizen) and is neither Italian or Mexican by Nationality. In this interview (http://blogamole.mtvtr3s.com/2008/09/23/exclusive-entrevista-selena-gomez/) Selena Gomez herself states that her Mother and Father are of Mexican Heritage and how she feels proud of how young latinas are looking up to her. The whole "half-Italian" statement seems to show up inconsistently from various news articles, and maybe Selena's mother has Italian ancestry (by way of Mexico), or article writers are confusing her character's biography (Mexican/Italian) with her personal biography. I think in the end Selena is just as American as any other Disney/Hollywood Star and not either Mexican or Italian by Nationality. --71.189.225.207 (talk) 22:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The reference http://www.fresnobee.com/262/v-textonly/story/754287.html states her father is from Mexico and her mother is half Italian "Because Gomez's father is from Mexico, she has been able to attend many family quinceñeras. But the actress, whose mother is half-Italian,...". The article also explicitly states she is an American actress. Ethnicity is different than nationality and ethnicity seems to be extremely important to Americans. Thus all the hyphenated-Americans that exist.This is confusing as that is also how dual nationals are described but in this case it just means ethnicity. I think the Italian ethnicity claim for Gomez is weak as it is no more than 1/4. Mexican ethnicity is pretty strong. --NrDg 22:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Selena Gomez is Mexican and Italian.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xopamelaxonicole (talk • contribs) 00:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read the rest of the discussion. Born in the US means she is American. Other references show ethnicity of parents and the ethnicity that Gomez identifies with. --NrDg 01:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
I noticed recently that this article has been protected due to vandalism. What happened? Soccer5525 (talk) 11:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)Soccer5525
 * It was previously semi-protected to June 1. If you look at the history after the last semi-protect expired check the number of IP edits that were reverted and the reasons they were reverted. Established editors can still edit the article. --NrDg 16:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)this is what happened to Demi Lovato too, someone came in and erased everything then add " WHO CARES ABOUT THIS BITCH!!!!!!!!!" no mean to swear, i am just quoting

Photo
Can't we add the pic of Alex Russo as Selena Gomez. I'm gonna add that pic just in case. Empezardesdecero1718 (talk) 00:15, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We can't because of our fair use rules. That photo can only be used for the character, not the actress.  Metros (talk) 00:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Guys, we really need a picture of her. I would put one but IDK know how to, I don't see the link where they tell me if they need a picture or whateverr. PLEASE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CuppycakeXD (talk • contribs) 01:55, 16 August 2008 (UTC) WE NEED A PICTURE!!!!! why don't we look on google for one of Selena as Selena not Alex,Stevie,Gwen(guest star on suite life of zack and cody) or anyone else, JUST SELENA! agreed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.70.92 (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If you wish to add a photo, you have to make sure you follow the IUP. Nabudis Shadow (talk) 03:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No we can't do that. If you just get an image from the internet and put it under here it has to be under fair use. Otherwise it's likely it's a copyright violation. Also note that on living bio's you shouldn't be putting up fair use images as it's very likely free images do exist. It did in this case exist a free image, as you can see on the article now. If you have any questions feel free to ask me on my user talk. -- 'Kanonkas' :  Talk 14:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

hmmmm well we have a great one now,but it does not have info on where it was taken,what is was taken for, or anything like that, is that ok? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Queen Me37 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The current image is fine. It has a free license and attribution to the original owner. Also see this and Cc-by-sa. -- 'Kanonkas' :  Talk 17:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

burnin up by the jonas brothers
SELENA GOMEZ WAS IN THE JONAS BROTHERS MUSIC VIDEO BURNIN UP AS NICK'S GIRL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.129.127 (talk) 02:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

eeh um WTF everyone knows (who saw the music vid) —Preceding unsigned comment added by KADcutie44 (talk • contribs) 06:00, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Selena Gomez is rumored to be dating Nick Jonas.

Clean Up The PAGE.
This page is an absolute mess!

First of all there needs to be a photograph. Second there needs to be more references, especially in the personal life section. It is stated that She makes YouTube videos with Jennifer Stone, but where is the proof?--Tiah12345 (talk) 00:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, she does not make videos with Jennifer Stone. Come to think of it, who is Jennifer Stone anyway? Still, she recently started making videos with Demi Lovato.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.139.248 (talk) 14:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Jennifer Stone is a costar of Selena Gomez's on the Disney Channel show, Wizard of Waverly Place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiah12345 (talk • contribs) 09:07, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

On YouTube, there is a video of Selena and Jennifer Stone on lunch break. But, Selena DOES make vids with her off-the-wall BFF, Demi Lovato. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.94.247 (talk) 13:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

changes.. im not an established user
her middle name is marie (said in a magazine and she put it in the info for one of her youtube videos-selena marie gomez) rumored to be dating nick jonas she makes youtube videos with wizards costar david henrie as well Iloveroo (talk) 09:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC) Yes, she has made like 2 videos with costar David Henrie from the Wizards of Waverly Place. I guess this could be mentioned in personal life.


 * Do you have a link to the "article" where she states her middle name? If you give us a link we can add it to the article. Also, you stated that she is "rumored to be dating nick jonas", we can only add true facts to wikipedia articles so that can't be put in. Finally, the info about the YouTube videos is already in the article. Edgehead5150 (talk) 15:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

jennifer stone
is her costar on wizards of waverly place (plays harper) and is in a couple of selenas videos on youtube.com/selgomez like the "leavin" one and dc games one Iloveroo (talk) 09:08, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh really?

I think this should be mentioned in her article, but written so people will understand better--Tiah12345 (talk) 09:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC) please put a link of proof here so i everyone knows it is true —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.70.92 (talk) 02:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Youtube
Geez, is Wikipedia a trivia site now, there is a WHOLE section about her youtube videos. Are they notable enough. Next the article might as well say what she wore in the videos. This article needs serious clean up. Is it really important to note every single video she does in her free time what is this, just because this girl's article is short because she hasn't worked enough to have a large amount of text seriously she is way too overrated for some reason. Atleast Miley Cyrus and the Jonas clan worked hard for thier headlines all she's done is star in a wizards show, barney and a cinderella story with a horrible soundtrack. --Isisnaa 19:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you read the section? It's about a specific event covered by FOX and MTV. Gimmetrow 21:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The other half of Selena’s Mother’s Ethnicity
Hey, just wondering if anybody knew the other half of Selena’s mother’s ethnicity. Her mother is half Italian but what’s the other half of her ethnicity? Her mother is half Italian and half what? I think this knowledge would be good for the article. So if anyone knows please include this in the article. Thank You.Maldek2 (talk) 08:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * In this interview (http://blogamole.mtvtr3s.com/2008/09/23/exclusive-entrevista-selena-gomez/) Selena Gomez herself states that her Mother and Father are of Mexican Heritage and how she feels proud of how young latinas are looking up to her. The whole "half-Italian" statement seems to show up inconsistently from various news articles, and maybe Selena's mother has Italian ancestry (by way of Mexico) but I think in the end Selena is just as American as any other Disney/Hollywood Star and not either Mexican or Italian by Nationality. --71.189.225.207 (talk) 22:34, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't anyone mention that she has a huge crush on Shia LaBeouf? Just saying, she's been telling evrybody a million times so.. K-K (talk) 18:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The fact that she has a huge crush on him isn't really relevant to the article. It's more a more trivial thing.Nikiangelz (talk) 18:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Selena Gomez Years Active controveresey?
On this page it says that Selena Gomez has been active since 2001 but there is no source for this. It also contradicts the fact that her first role which is mentioned started in 2002. This is a contradiction. Also her role in Barney from 2002-2005 is not sourced. There are no sources for any of her filmography and I have found reliable sources that are included in the article that state that she was only on Barney for two years. If there are no reliable sources for any of this, than are people making up this information? Also if as the article mentions her first role was on Barney in 2002 then how could she be active in 2001? Thank You for your cooperation.Maldek2 (talk) 22:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Fair enough - why didn't you just correct it? And what sources are you referring to? Other relevant sources:  Gimmetrow 01:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Protection?
If this article is semi-protected, how did this anon do this? Unschool (talk) 19:27, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

The semi-protection is just expired.-- Super Secret  19:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Singer-Songwriter
Do you think Selena should be under the category, American singer-songwriters? I think it's now apparent that she writes her own songs. Geekboy6 (talk)
 * Until we have a reliable source showing that she writes her songs i think the category should be left out. Edgehead 5150 04:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So magazine and web articles don't count as a reliable source? She even mentioned that she and David Henrie wrote a song for Wizards of Waverly Place on one of her YouTube videos. David mentioned that in a different video. --Geekboy6 (talk) 07:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Magazine articles aren't reliable because they can be fake, web articles from reliable websites can be used. Also YouTube videos shouldn't be used as sources. Edgehead 5150 08:06, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * She can have a hobby of writing songs, and she can even think of herself as a songwriter, but that does not make her a songwriter until she gets official songwriting credit on something published. If the song she supposedly wrote for her show got her songwriter credit in the show end credits, then we can classify her as a songwriter, using the episode end credits as a verifiable reliable source. --NrDg 15:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * So I guess we're going to have to wait until the Wizards of Waverly Place episode Plan B airs or until her debut album comes out before she can be known as a singer-songwriter, right? --Geekboy6 (talk) 17:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Pretty much. The infobox lists occupations. We don't usually list hobby-like activities under occupations. If you have a reference that says she likes to write songs that would be treated like any other thing she does that might be notable but it is not an occupation until she basically gets (provably) paid for it. If she gets songwriter credit on her album or credit on the show that means she is being paid for her efforts and then we could justify calling her a singer-songwriter (assuming she sings her own songs). --NrDg 18:19, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I just saw a video from of Selena getting interviewed. She clearly said in there that she's in the recording studio writing songs for kids and parents to love on her album. Does she qualify as a singer-songwriter now? --Geekboy6 (talk) 05:44, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. Just because she says she "writing songs" doesn't mean that she's actually writing them. Until a cd comes out with "Selena Gomez" listed as one of the songwriters she shouldn't be called a singer-songwriter. Edgehead 5150 06:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Hannah Montana
Ok, she was Mikayla for two episodes, but in a new series 3 episode 'Ready, Set, Don't Go', I swear I could see Selena in the bunch of people surrounding Oliver when he raps about Miley's new (non)driving lisence. I dunno if there is anywhere that proves this though. 202.7.183.130 (talk) 06:12, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You do need to provide a source before it can be included. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Feud with Miley Cyrus
According with Damicatz the sources about the feud with Miley doesn't are verifiable. (see this discussion) So we have to delete it. Renanx3 (talk) 15:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Is not verifiable". Anyway, I believe it's sorted now. --Charitwo (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't correct me, I hate it. Well, I don't understand: you remove it when I put in the Cyrus' section, but here, with the same things and the same sources you not remove, I really don't understand. Renanx3 (talk) 16:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Then perhaps you should type correctly? Take a second and review what you've typed, preview it and make sure it looks good, that's what the button is there for. I can't properly discuss this issue if I don't understand what you are saying. This makes no sense to me,
 * "but here, with the same things and the same sources you not remove,"
 * --Charitwo (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok sorry, I'm not North-American/English. Well, I said that you delete this on the Miley Cyrus page, but here, in Selena Gomez page, you didn't delete. I want know the reason. Renanx3 (talk) 19:20, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I did remove it, but someone added it back in. You shoild really learn check article history before you accuse someone of something. I wasn't about to start an edit war and revert his changes. --Charitwo (talk) 19:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * But you say that the sources are "sorted", Do you agree or you don't about put this information? Renanx3 (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * When I said sorted, I meant by my removing the information, it was sorted in the sense of being compliant with WP:NOT. Meaning I agreed, yes, we should delete it, so I did]. --Charitwo (talk) 19:45, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

This story was covered by People, MTV and Fox as cited, which are normally considered reliable sources for entertainment industry stories. The section also implicitly handles some other issues beyond the story (the youtube videos, relation to Lovato) that people would keep adding anyway. Gimmetrow 19:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the sources, it still doesn't belong, like Damicatz, wikipedia BLP articles are not tabloid articles. It's not encyclopedic, it's gossip. --Charitwo (talk) 20:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It's an event reported in multiple reliable sources. How is it a scandal? Gimmetrow 20:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * But I said it before: If wikipedia doesn't want gossips, we should delete ALL these things in the Miley Cyrus personal life's section, right? Because Miley's friendship, relationship and other things are gossips. Renanx3 (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Gossip, not scandal. Perhaps a more appropriate link to explain my reasoning. --Charitwo (talk) 20:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Vanessa Hudgens' nude photo was a scandal, don't? Renanx3 (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The section even describes it as alleged, meaning gossip, and includes two references from both parties stating it was a rumor and completely false. It does not belong. --Charitwo (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This whole issue is media created drama denied by all the parties involved, as per the references. It does not belong as explained above. I vote to remove it as it adds nothing of encyclopedic value to this article. --NrDg 21:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * How do I know I did not win it, I do not need to vote, let's just delete it. Renanx3 (talk) 15:13, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This reports an event: the videos and the statements by the principal players. Neither the story nor its coverage is derogatory and there is nothing about "privacy" involved here. It's not reporting a false story as true. The event has significant coverage by multiple independent reliable sources, which makes it prima facie notable. Furthermore, it provides a touch of human interest to the bio. Gimmetrow 04:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't, there is no consensus here to keep it. --Charitwo (talk) 14:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * So what we gonna do? Renanx3 (talk) 16:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

No concensus to delete, no strong policy reason to delete. Editor judgment call as to whether or not it belongs. One editor who strongly wants it in the article and restored it after it was deleted per WP:BRD. Until some consensus forms for deletion it does not harm to the article for it to stay in. --NrDg 16:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * In short... it will be deleted? Renanx3 (talk) 16:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Let it sit and see if other editors get involved. Revisit the issue in a few days. --NrDg 17:41, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Renanx3 (talk) 17:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I think we should vote by now to keep or delete it, because it will end with nothing resolved. 201.16.201.134 (talk) 18:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Make It Happen
Why was that song deleted from her songs? That song was clearly heard on the promo of the new Wizards of Waverly Place episode. Plus, she did that song with David Henrie. --Geekboy6 (talk) 00:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said in the edit summary, the Wizards of Waverly Place soundtrack does not show up on http://disneymusic.disney.go.com/index.html list of current and future albums so any reference to its existence needs a verifiable reliable source. The most reliable of them, the label's official site, does not mention it. If this was promo of the song and the credits were part of the promo, specify as a reference the episode the song promo was included in, need name of episode and date broadcast so this info can be verified by others. A better reference would be something published and that should eventually show up. --NrDg 00:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This was anticipated ever since Selena and David mentioned that on a YouTube video. This is the episode, Plan B. --Geekboy6 (talk) 01:52, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That episode has not been broadcast yet. In what episode and at what date did you see the promo? I'll add back what I can verify but I need to see the promo before I can do that. I have the first runs of the broadcast episodes on my Tivo so can check. --NrDg 02:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The promo started airing when Baby Cupid was on commercial last Sunday. It's still airing on Disney Channel. The episode will air right when 2009 begins on New Year's. --Geekboy6 (talk) 03:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I watched the promo. It is a promo for the New Years episode. The episode name was not mentioned. It showed Alex and Justin playing instruments and singing. What they were singing was not identified. There were no credits mentioned or shown as to name of song, who wrote the song and who the performers really were (it could have been lip synced though unlikely). This is not sufficient for inclusion in the article. When the episode airs and the end credits for the episode are shown, only then we could use this as a reference. --NrDg 15:14, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Apparently, the name of the song is "Make It Happen". So it's not under her songs because of the reason you gave it, that the Wizards soundtrack is not available in the website you gave? --Geekboy6 (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Website
I noticed that Selena Gomez is having a website up. Can we put it up yet? Here's the website. --Geekboy6 (talk) 20:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing there now so is not a useful external link. Also will need some form of proof that this is real and not a poser. --NrDg 20:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well the domain was registered in June.. by some guy in Los Angeles. I think it's Disney but whatever. It's not an actual site yet so we can't put it up. --staka (T) 00:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

SayNow/Duet with Demi
I just found a YouTube video that had what Selena said on her SayNow site. The video is right here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNgSGn_Guvg She just said that she just recently did her duet with Demi Lovato for Princess Protection Program. Can the info on the duet be under music yet? The duet is not going to be under her songs yet, because it hasn't aired. But the duet can still be mentioned under music since she mentioned it herself. And the name of the duet is "One In The Same" as she just told someone after a Wizards taping. --Geekboy6 (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Normally we don't allow linking to non-official YouTube channels as they, like in this case, contain a copyright violation - strongly doubt the uploader has the legal right to post the interview. Also don't know if the person is actually Selena Gomez in the audio, could be a fraud, although unlikely. If you can find the actual source of the interview and if that is on some site, like a radio station's, that owns the audio, that would be a good reference to use. --NrDg 21:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The uploader just got that from Selena's SayNow account: http://www.saynow.com/selenagomez but for some reason, the SayNow information is deleted. I'd figured I'd ask first because this seems like a classic example of "hearing it from the horse's mouth". You could upload this site http://www.selenagomezcentral.com/ where you can see a clip of Selena talking about her duet. --Geekboy6 (talk) 03:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately fansites like http://www.selenagomezcentral.com/ are just as bad as YouTube when it comes to honoring other peoples copyrights so we can't link to them either. If the copyright owner has removed the clip from their site we basically have nothing that we can link to so don't have any usable reference right now. I don't doubt the truth of what you want to put it the article - it is just that we can't until we have a usable reference. --NrDg 03:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I checked her SayNow site. The information is back. Click on what she said on December 20 from http://www.saynow.com/selenagomez when she clearly said something about her album and her duet. --Geekboy6 (talk) 19:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

American Christians
Why was Selena removed from that category? --Geekboy6 (talk) 18:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe NrDg explained it to you on your talk page. See this. If you need further help, then sure go ahead. --Kanonkas (talk) 18:31, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
 * To reiterate, for the benefit of others reading this discussion. See WP:BLP. Categories must be justified by well referenced article content in that article and "The subject publicly self-identifies with the belief ..." and "are relevant to the subject's notable activities" all of which which also needs to be referenced and shown in the article. She may have stated she is Christian somewhere else but if the article doesn't prove this and show that is meaningful it can't be a category. Note that incorrectly characterizing peoples religious beliefs can be insulting to them - we must be careful. --NrDg 05:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC) --NrDg 18:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

On her official MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/selenagomez) which is linked from her official website (selenagomez.com) it states her religion as "Christian-other". Case closed I'd say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.132.207 (talk) 17:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

MySpace
I think this could really be her MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/selenagomez even though the age is 96. I think she just made a typo when typing in the age. Plus on her official site, there is a link to that site as well as her YouTube and SayNow accounts. --Geekboy6 (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * 1 and 9 are pretty far apart on any keyboard - hard to be a typo. What would really be nice is some reliable publication giving at least one of her pages some mention as being official, then the rest could be vetted by that one. There are a LOT of posers. I am a LOT distrustful. Her Saynow page http://www.saynow.com/selenagomez is likely valid, though, and points to http://www.myspace.com/selenagomez. However, even if her myspace page IS real, how much do we really want to trust it for information when something pretty basic like her age is obviously wrong. --NrDg 03:13, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Her age may be wrong on the MySpace, but you don't have to put your real age (or name) on your account. So i think it could be used as a valid source for info it it is official. Edgehead 5150 00:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never used MySpace so I want to ask, do you put your birthdate in your profile or an actual age of yourself? If just an actual age, then it just means that she hasn't had the time to update or even fix it.--staka (T) 00:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you put your birthdate in, if I remember correctly, because it updates your age automatically. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Like NrDg, I'm distrustful. If there is any doubt as to the authenticity of a myspace, it should not be linked to. And even if we know it is authentic, I would hesitate to consider it a RS. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:42, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

It is linked from her official website (selenagomez.com). I think wanting any more proof is just clutching at straws. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.132.207 (talk) 17:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes
What are your thoughts on the recent changes on Selena's page? I noticed one of those references was a YouTube video. You think it's about time we added her duet with Demi Lovato? If you're using YouTube videos as references now, you can use http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXRC7ufGoJY as a reference to the duet Selena has with Demi. The name of the duet is One in the Same and once again, the reference is a classic example of "hearing it from the horse's mouth". --Geekboy6 (talk) 03:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Interestingly "hearing it from the horse's mouth" as a concept maps directly on primary sources. We can basically state that Selena Gomez said "xxx", but we can't take her statement as proof that "xxx" is factually accurate. That is why we prefer to use secondary sources who have a reputation for fact checking as references to the accuracy of statement "xxx". --NrDg 15:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Birth information
Edit removed a contributory copyright violation link to an image of a purported form filled out by Gomez where she declared her birth location and date. The image is from page 80 of the May 2008 issue of Bop Magazine, a fan/gossip magazine. The reference was removed as Bob Magazine is not considered a reliable source and the form has no proof that Gomez actually filled it out. I consider the likelihood of this being a fake as extremely small though and think the magazine as a reference (not the image link though) can be considered a reliable source for this particular set of information. --NrDg 16:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Cite:.

People Magazine is generally considered a reliable source. --NrDg 16:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Convenience links like the Bop magazine image are helpful to verify that a cite to an offline magazine is correct and not misinterpreted or made-up. We've all seen instances of that. On the specific content, there is no dispute about the birthdate here - essentially every article, and her own official sites, say the same thing - and I think it's a little excessive to insist on a footnote for this. On location, People may say one thing but other sources, sometimes considered reliable in the entertainment industry, say other things: profiles at MTV and US claim born in New York City and raised in Texas (Grand Prairie). (MSN-music too). Some of these may derive from older versions of this page. Gimmetrow 18:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Beezus and Ramona
Is it possible that we can put this movie in her film credits? There's been a lot of news about that. I think a source from E Online can be used. --Geekboy6 (talk) 22:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Sonny With a Chance
So Selena is guest starring as herself in an episode of Sonny With a Chance. The article http://www.oceanup.com/2009/02/selena-gomez-sonny-with-a-chance.html pretty much says it. Should this go in her guest appearances yet? --Geekboy6 (talk) 20:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * When you can find a reliable source, sure. Based on a fan/gossip site? No.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Middle name again
selena gomez's middle name is not marie it is kayleigh. bop mag.< /ref > CyrusSis45 (talk) 21:50, 19 February 2009 (UTC)CyrusSis45


 * see in this discussion page and add to the discussion there. Also would be nice to have the specific issue and page in bop mag to verify what they say. --NrDg 22:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

MySpace again
I know NrDG is very distrustful, but gossip sites always mention what updates have happened on her supposed MySpace. They mention whatever pics have been uploaded and what bulletins she's released. I think there really is a strong possibility that http://www.myspace.com/selenagomez really is her MySpace. --Geekboy6 (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Since the page is listed in the Celebrity Directory of MySpace, i think there's no doubt that that's her real page. -- Frehley <font style="color:000099;">Space <font style="color:000099;">Ace 18:06, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention this connection David Henrie's REAL site is www.davidhenrie.com On his site, he mentions his twitter On his twitter, he has talked to selenagomez On his twitter, he follows selenagomez selenagomez links to the myspace.

Ergo, it has GOT to be REAL. 75.179.161.245 (talk) 01:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Beezus and Ramona
I just put Beezus and Ramona on her film credits. I think it's pretty much confirmed that there's going to be a film based on the children's book and Selena is starring as Beezus. --Geekboy6 (talk) 18:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Wizards Movie
The link to the Wizards of Waverly Place Movie just leads me to the series' article. Can someone make a link to the actual article for Wizards of Waverly Place: The Movie? 98.232.58.47 (talk) 01:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. - SummerPhD (talk) 14:05, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Young Artist Award
Hey Selena just won a Young Artist Award for her performance in Another Cinderella Story. Can someone make the edit? --Geekboy6 (talk) 04:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

is she black
i saw somewhere that she is 1/16 black —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.126.149.253 (talk) 20:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC) I'm fairly certain that everyone is part black if you go back far enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.169.69.130 (talk) 10:01, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Is she black
you need to read what she says she says she is hispanic and Italian not black besides that you can tell just by looking at her--Sweetheart2009 (talk) 16:10, 8 June 2009 (UTC)sweetheart2009

song writing
In the artical they should mention how selena cowrote songs on the up coming album she cowrote a song called beautifully disturbed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetheart2009 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless you have a reliable source to confirm that she wrote the songs it can't be added. <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 22:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

More arguments about the middle name
Her Middle name is not Marie her character Alex Russo has the middle name Marie Selena's is Kayleigh like Kay-ley sorce is the actress herself. Katie92 (talk) 06:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)Katie92


 * The Wikipedia article for her character shows Alex Russo's middle name as "Margarita" not "Marie". You said that "the actress herself" is the source, but I've never seen or read anything where Selena has said her middle name is "Kayleigh". Can you give us a link to something where Selena herself says her middle name is "Kayleigh"? <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 07:31, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Her middle name is marie. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1411125/ Undertakerhbk588 (talk) 19:55, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

September 2009
I suspect the removed content about September was referring to. I would also like to suggest editors review about comma splices, since there seem to be a lot of them recently. Gimmetrow 04:50, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Who the hell screwed up the page.
Everything was fine until someone came and and combined things that needed to be seperate. Whose the moron that did this. RCR293 (talk) 07:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Music
I noticed the article lists her genres as Pop, Rock, and R&B, but I did not know she had recorded anything other than the Wizards of Waverly Place theme song and part of a song for her part as McKayla on Hannah Monatan. Does anyone have any information on this? Sundancin (talk) 00:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

She recorded a version of 'Cruella De Vil' for the Platinum Edition of 101 Dalmatians.

On Hannah Montana Selena did not sing the song, she was lipsynching a song by Julie Griffin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.189.97 (talk) 02:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

She has recorded "Everything is not what it seems" as theme song in Wizards of Waverly Place, "If cupid had a heart for Hannah Montana, and "Tell me something I don't know" and "Bang a drum" with Drew Seeley, and " New Classic" for the upcoming film " Another Cinderella Story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luvnickj (talk • contribs) 21:04, 11 August 2008

On Amazon.com her album has been titled as "Kiss And Tell" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxxie Blu (talk • contribs) 20:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Philanthropy
Under the Philanthropy section, it quotes Selena as saying that she wants to "encourage other kids to make a different in the world" but in the article she is quoted as saying that she wants to "encourage other kids to make a difference in the world." With the difference between the two as the word "difference". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Babyluigi123 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace
Best info I have seen is born in New York, raised in Dallas. Only reference I have seen is from a Sep 10, 2007 article in the Fort Worth Star Telegram with a google summary of "7 pm Sunday, National Geographic Channel Wizards of Waverly Place Born in New York City but raised in Dallas, former Barney & Friends co-star Selena Gomez ..." and a url of http://www.star-telegram.com/television/story/228147.html Unfortunately that url seems to lead to an archived story so we can't use it as a reference. --NrDg 22:21, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A San Antonio Express News article refers to her as "Texas-born". - TexasAndroid 18:16, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Born in New York??? Selena is my friend from Grand Prairie. We grew up together and my family is close with her family and I know for a fact that she was born in Texas. When I saw this article I called her and she said that Disney thought it would be good to say that she was born in New York to add more elegance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.118.121.169 (talk) 13:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Selena was born in dallas, Texas. She was born in 22 july, 1992. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luvnickj (talk • contribs) 20:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Selena was born in Texas, not New York City. Link: http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/20902?c=search&first=selena&last=gomez  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.17.38 (talk) 00:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Although familytreelegends shows someone with the same name and commonly-accepted birthdate, it's not definitive proof it's her. Most reputable sources say she's a "Texas native", but I couldn't find one which directly said she was born in Texas. On the other hand I couldn't find a source that said she was born in New York that didn't look like a Wiki derivative. Gimmetrow 01:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * FamilyTreeLegends is sourced from official birth and genealogy records, and every date and name on the site is correct. It is an official site. Look up anyone you wish who was born in California or Texas (The site covers some 10 states so far) and the names and birth dates will correspond. Jennifer Aniston is listed, Colbie Caillat is listed, among many, many others. The site is used to source many birth dates on Wikipedia, including Sara Bareilles, among others. There is only one Selena Marie Gomez born July 22, 1992 in Dallas, Texas, one is not listed as a California birth for that date, so the San Diego comment below is ludicrous. I'm not understanding why the site's authenticity as a source is being disputed.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.17.65 (talk) 23:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I think it's clear by now, that she was born in the Dallas - Fort Worth Metroplex and not in New York. I understand that was a publicity rumor - connected with Wizards of Waverly Place. However there is a question of how muc accurency we are going for. I highly doubt that she was born in Grand Prairie, she probably was born in Dallas and raised in Grand Prairie, as most babies from Grand Prairie are born in Dallas hospitals. But as the Metroplex is really like one big city, I think this may not matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.148.75 (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Well according to The Insider it sais she was born in New York, New York, and raised in Grand Prarie Tx. http://www.theinsider.com/celebrities/Selena_Gomez also http://www.celebritywonder.com/html/selenagomez.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torres27 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Band
It should be noted that according to Selena's twitter, her band will be called The Scene and they will collectively be known as Selena Gomez and The Scene. Also the first single will be released via radio disney on August 21st and Selena and the band are in the process of shooting the singles music video. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.116.76.6 (talk) 09:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Kiss and Tell album article
Shouldn't there already be an article for her band's "Kiss and Tell" album? The cover, the tracklisting, the first single, and the release date has already been released. I think there's enough information for an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.58.47 (talk) 19:58, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Picture
That pic of her is not the best can you please change it!!!!!!!!!!!!! --CarrieUnderwood 4Ever&EverJP (talk) 02:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The current image is the best free picture available. Until another free image can be found it can't be changed. <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 19:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Template???
Selena is not just an actress anymore. She is a singer shouldn't we change her template to musical artist. The actor template is good enough to fit the standards. She is becoming a musical artist and I think it is about time we change the template to that. What do you guys think?--Sprite7868 (talk) 02:11PM, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree and I will add that in. However, only because it gives more information about Gomez. Not because she's "not just an actress." <font face="Trebuchet MS, Century Gothic, Verdana">POKERdance talk/ contribs 19:28, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Debut Album release
There was recent news that Selena's debut album will be released in July. She did say that straight from her SayNow account and it has been announced in other news sites. Can we incorporate this change in the article yet? --Geekboy6 (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If the news source meets the reliable source requirements and what is added to the article accurately reports what the source says, then you should have no problems putting it in the article. --NrDg 17:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's coming out on September 29, 2009! (Blackguitar316) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackguitar316 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

"Moviie"
You spelled "movie" as "moviie" somewhere along the line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.211.243 (talk) 22:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Barney: Sharing is Caring
If you look on iTunes, you'll see a recently released Barney film with Selena Gomez credited as on of the actors (obviously it was filmed when she was much younger). It's entitled Barney: Sharing is Caring. Do we add this to her filmography page? If so, what year would we put it under? Sunshine ☼ (talk) 23:48, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

2009 Primetime Creative Arts Emmys
For Selena's awards, can you please add her win for the 2009 Primetime Creative Arts Emmys? She won the "Outstanding Children’s Program Award" for her work in Wizards of Waverly Place. Please take some time to go over this. There's proof all over the web that she did AND Selena herself documented a video of her reaction. Ishtherese (talk) 17:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)ishtherese
 * - Your "source" is unreliable and is in fact marked by the software as spam. Please provide a reputable source. <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;"> Intelligent  sium  17:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this a reliable source? It's from Selena's official Twitter page. http://twitpic.com/hj7dr and her video http://www.twitvid.com/C7B5F she posted on twitter. If so, update her Awards section to include her win for Outstanding Children's Program Award in 2009 Primetime Creative Arts Emmys for her work in Wizards of Waverly Place. Nico 00:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC) ishtherese

Not done: Welcome and thanks for wanting to contribute. Based on WP:SELFPUB, these aren't reliable sources because there is a reasonable doubt as to their authenticity. Regardless of whether they are reliable, though, they don't provide a source for the information you are asking to add. If you'd like to add this information, simply find a reliable news article or official website which includes a list of the Emmy winners. Someone servicing the editsemiprotected request will add it for you once you have provided a reliable source. Or you can leave off the editsemiprotected template and one of the other editors interested in this article may choose to do the research for you. Regards, Celestra (talk) 14:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I see the problem now; the show won that award according to this press release from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, not Ms. Gomez. Cheers, Celestra (talk) 15:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Controversy?
I propose we delete the controversey section as it is short and poorly written. Plus it's not much of a controversy - just girls wearing bikinis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.186.170 (talk) 18:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I think selena is fabulas!!! Stick with it peeps! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.0.148 (talk) 20:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Selena Gomez discography
I am proposing a new article entitled Selena Gomez discography. With several charting singles, now a debut album, participation in soundtracks and compilation albums and music videos, Selena Gomez has plenty of information for her own discography page. I however need conscientious, please share your opinion. --Ipodnano05 (talk) 23:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Only two of her solo songs have charted. --Randolph3 23:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Tell Me Something I Don't Know, One and the Same, Magic and Send It On on the Hot 100, New Classic under the Bubbling Under Hot 100 and Cruella de Vil on the Pop 100. That's five charting singles. Other discographies like Mitchel Musso's have less. --Ipodnano05 (talk) 05:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm all for it. Shes going to be releasing more music in the future anyways. It'll make more sense to release it now.Sunshine ☼ (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it's a pretty good decision for her own Discography page. She has released singles (all of which are charted too), done songs for various soundtracks and she's now even debuting her album. It makes pretty good sense for a discography page.


 * She already has many songs, and I think that she needs a discography page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.145.138.183 (talk) 03:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

With this I believe a discography page may be made, feel free to help and edit. --Ipodnano05 (talk) 20:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Oppose. 5 soundtrack appearances, 7 music videos, and 4 singles. Only two of her songs have charted. Keep it merged to this page for now. When she has more charted singles, perhaps then an article can be created. But not now. <font face="Trebuchet MS, Century Gothic, Verdana">POKERdance talk/ contribs 21:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * One and the Same, Send it On have also charted. Besides, charted songs aren't the only requirements needed. She has made enough music so far with soundtracks, singles and her album. So a Discography page can and should be made. --GalaxyTurboTwister


 * I think it should be done. She has been involved in several music projects, many of which have charted. The only thing I have a problem with is that her new music is under name "Selena Gomez & The Scene", so would her discography page have sections for The Scene and solo projects? Akcvtt (talk) 02:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Strongly oppose this. A discography page for 4 singles and 5 soundtrack appearances? Broken up and fragmented into a weird little pieces because she has never done an entire project on her own, so you are going to have a little table for TV show songs, and a little one for soundtracks, and one for done with a group, and one for this and one for that? Makes no sense at all to me.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I think we should once her album comes out--Debbie rocks (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I think it should be done. She has now 7 singles, 11 soundtrack appearances, a debut-album and 7 music videos...! other singers like Demi Lovato have not more singles. (sorry for the englisch, I'm from germany.)-- 84.150.202.197 (talk) 15:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that her discography should have it's own section. Ashley92995 (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Selena gomez Discography —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gagawiki (talk • contribs) 02:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I definately think that Selena Gomez should get her own discography page. Not having many charting singles, as some people are saying, isn't a good excuse not to give her one. I know some artists on here with no charting singles yet they get they own discography page. Besides if she had a discography page it would be able to give more information on her singles, albums, and contributions to soundtracks.--RockTheWorld09 (talk) 16:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Birthplace and race
Why dibt Hi!!! Though not a bid deal, one fact is incorrect. Selena is Mexican, definitely. And her MOTHER is half-white and half-Mexican. She is just Mexican. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angellebrad (talk • contribs) 18:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have heard that her mother, Mandy, was full Italian American, while the dad was Mexican American. And also, many biographies state she was born in NYC but moved to Texas as a baby? (PEOPLE.com says she was born and raised in Grand Prairie, Texas, which is what this article uses as a source.) ★ <b style="color:#ba6afd;">Dasani</b> ★ 23:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Erm I have no idea about what race her parents are but I know one thing for certain, Selena Gomez is American. She was born in America which by law makes her American, although if her parents were Mexican then you could say she has Mexican ethnicity, but she would still be classed as American.--RockTheWorld09 (talk) 16:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Excessive details must be removed
TV ratings are notable--yes. But they must be left to their individual pages. Sure, Wizards may be a big part to her career, but it does not imply that she must have all the details about Wizards in her career section though. The career section is simply a summary of her career. And this does not include TV ratings and the sort since they are not really RELEVANT to her career, but only to her shows. Another thing is that filming details should be left alone their own articles since it has nothing to do with the evolution of her career. Same with the tv ratings. You can't just simply say "the tv ratings made her attain roles out of Disney" because that would lead to suspicion on where did you get that info. Then, you can't just simply say that "THE WIZARDS MOVIE WAS THE MOST-WATCHED DCOM IN HISTORY" so? It should be left to its own article since the record it achieved is not only credited to Gomez. I hope other editors will read and understand this. Kikkokalabud (talk)


 * While I do agree with you on the 'tv ratings' I think that information such as: "The show debuted on October 12, 2007. The series has an average of over 4 million per-episode and the show's all-time highest viewership of an audience of over 6 million. " should be added. Ashley92995 (talk) 07:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Age..
Can someone update the page showing she is 18? 69.14.91.247 (talk) 20:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Age calculations are automatic based on birthdate. At this time, she has only been 17 for a couple of weeks.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

SHE IS NOT 18!! SHE'S 17! SHE TURNED 17 ON JULY 22ND!!!!

You are mistaken she turned 18 Last July STUPID! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.0.148 (talk) 20:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

No, ur wrong. in the first season of WOWP she was referred to as 14 years old. That was 3 years ago. Thus, she should be 17, turning 18 next year. DUH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.179.194 (talk) 01:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Her First Non-Disney Film
Okay when talking about Selena's new film Ramona and Beezus there are several mistakes that I can make out. Erm for one it is badly written so some of it doesn't make sense, like this bit: In February, 2009, Gomez began singed onto star as one of the two female leads in Ramona and Beezus a film adaption of the children's novel series by Beverly Cleary. There shouldn't really be a comma before '2009', and 'Gomez began singed onto' doesn't make a whole lot of sense - I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to say but is it meant to mean she's been signed to star as one of two female leads. Okay, second is that it says Ramona and Beezus will be Gomez's first non-disney film. Which isn't actually true. It will be her second as the film Another Cinderella Story, in which she plays Mary, was done by Warner Bros - not Disney. Please can you review this information as the first bit's hard to understand properly and the second bit's misleading.--RockTheWorld09 (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Correct the errors Hello! Goodbye! (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

The movie Selena will star in, "What Boys Want", will be about a teenage girl (Selena) who can read boys thoughts. I don't know, someone might want to add that. 8:17, 19 January 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackenziealice (talk • contribs)

Taylor Lautner
Should there be any mention in the personal life section that she is dating Taylor Lautner, or is that not relevant, or maybe not properly verifiable according to Wikipedia's standards? - 121.208.89.240 (talk) 07:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think so, since it's never been confirmed. 96.235.21.29 (talk) 18:25, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

she never went out w/ taylor. when being interviewed and asked whether or not she was dating taylor she said she was single. not sure wat that site is, but i think i could get it. hollywood just wants to create drama, and according to them selly should be dating so they create all this stuff just cuz they walked together and looked in each others general direction. i do that all the time w/ guys im not dating!! come on, you cant believe everything hollywood speculates for drama!!!! Dreamer 03:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs)

Recent edits
Kikkokalabud has been removing - what I feel is notable information to Gomez' page. While I do put into consideration that most film/tv information isn't always notable, some information is - like the information that currently appears on her page - like for example('s): The film's revenue, critcial recetion, records, etc, TV's ratings, viewership, start and end date, number of episodes in total, etc. Ashley92995 (talk) 23:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The information isn't being removed from Wikipedia, it's being removed from this individual article. That's why we have wikilinks. People that are interested in knowing more detail about something can click the link and see it. Including all this detail in the artist article actually makes it harder to see the information about the artist because it gets drowned in details about individual projects.&mdash;Kww(talk) 12:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Selena's personal life
You should of added about Her brakeing up with Nick Jonas.her mom had her at 16 if you dont believe me add it up her mom is 32 now which would make her 16 when she had her.I dislike the show but I like her I have Her poster on my door my friend is obessedwith her —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.229.42.85 (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * This article is about Selena Gomez, not her mother. No reliable source (gossip sites are not reliable) makes mention of any relationship with Jonas and the principals deny it. --NrDg 20:42, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

"brakeing up?" Oh, yes. You seem very credible. I believe you. < / sarcasm > You must not have been following the news too closely; there has not been any confirmation of a relationship between them. They made that video and then from that fans and journalists feeding off of fan frenzy began creating a relationship between them, much like with many male-female friendships in Hollywood. If there is something that Selena does, other than a quote, that could possibly, and reasonably, include the age of her mother when she was born, then I'm sure it will be added.75.179.161.245 (talk) 01:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't the fact that she wears a promisary ring and is saving herself until marriage be mentioned? It's obviously an important aspect of her personal life to her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.29.190 (talk • contribs) 16:18, May 29, 2009 (UTC)

On June 5th, 2009 Selena Gomez twittered, "I'm gonna move to Indiana. Is that cool Indiana?" Therefore, she is moving to Indiana. I got that from her personal Twitter account. That is really important because moving is a big change, especially moving across the country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emg123123 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Moving is not very important, and i honestly don't think shes moving just because she said so on Twitter. <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 21:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think you completely get twitter . . . I can't figure out how to explain how you know, but she WAS joking. There are certain things she says on Twitter, though, that could be put in here as fact, though they are not really encyclopedic.75.179.161.245 (talk) 04:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

In the newest article of Seventeen, Selena Gomez did admit to dating Nick and implied that he broke up with her and having a feud with Miley last year. Not sure if you want to add that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.11.186.170 (talk) 19:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

She is now an active member on Yahoo Answers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgomez22 (talk • contribs) 08:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Besides basketball, Selena Gomez is also a big fan of soccer. She is known to be a big fan of Real Madrid C.F.. Her favorite soccer player is Cristiano Ronaldo, who is one of the best soccer players in the world, also playing for Real Madrid. He happens to be Selena's second big crush after Shia Labeouf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanthegreat10 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Filmography
Selana also appeared in "The Hills" in Season 3 Episode 13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilyyt (talk • contribs) 23:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Complication album?
I assume this means "compilation" and should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.80.168.252 (talk) 21:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 07:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture
I realy hate the picture that is on the page.I would much rather have a picture were Selena is more natural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Girl 101 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

official website
why does the official website short cut go to face book she has an official website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltmssbb (talk • contribs) 01:56, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * She doesn't have an official website. She purchased a domain and had it redirect to Facebook (some people also do the same with MySpace). The link says selenagomez.com. Maybe she had one in the past. ★ <b style="color:#ba6afd;">Dasani</b> ★ 21:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yah, I was suprised by it, only like last month she had a official website www.selenagomez.com, which was one page that linked to her myspace, youtube, facebook, and twitter, but now it just redirects to her facebook account -Setsuna29 (talk) 02:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I suggest adding Selena Gomez & The Scene's Twitter to this section. http://www.twitter.com/SelenaNTheScene as confirmed by Selena's Twitter @selenagomez prior to her album release.Lacy628 (talk) 10:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Disney Fan Promotions
 * It would be more appropriate to put that on Selena Gomez and the Scene rather than Gomez's biography. Josh Parris 12:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Complication album?
I assume this means "compilation" and should be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.80.168.252 (talk) 21:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre <font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h <font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley 07:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture
I realy hate the picture that is on the page.I would much rather have a picture were Selena is more natural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Girl 101 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

"falling down"
i love the new song falling down.she is a geat singer!do yall think so?♥ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie2706 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC) how do you make a heart?? & yah, its ATHOME!! so is naturally!! and ALL her music...but this isnt a forum, you should write about just editing not just discussing the topic, if you know what i mean!! *dream on*dance on* 05:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs) Yeah, I love Falling Down! Selena is a great singer, but her band is great as well. 8:20, 19 January 2010

O.K.
Ok,I think 2 pics should be switched how do i do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Girl 101 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I PROTEST
the scene article should not have been taken off!!!! that was a GGOOOODD article!! i miss it!! COME BACK!!! *dream on*dance on* 05:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs)

PICTURE?
ok, so the pic in the Philanthropy section should be her main pic! its a great pic!!!!! *dream on*dance on* 06:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC) yah, im doing that *dream on*dance on* 06:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs) I agree, the picture in the Philanthropy section is really cute and is better than the main picture. However, notice that the Philanthropy picture is listed that it was taken in 2008 and the main picture is from 2009. It has to be current. So, yeah, I agree the Philanthropy picture is better, but it is not as current as the main picture (I think). 8:29, 19 January 2010 --Mackenziealice (talk) 15:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Philanthropy
I realy like the picture that is with philanthropy and if it could be switched with the main it would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Girl 101 (talk • contribs) 18:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Where she was born
Selena was born in New York City but almost right away moved to Grand Prairie,Texas I don't know where it says she was born but she was born in NEW YORK CITY. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pretty Girl 101 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC) I agree, I think there should be something about how she was born in New York City but then moved to Texas. 8:21, 19 January 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackenziealice (talk • contribs) Ya,I agree too!--99.199.56.80 (talk) 02:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC) I agree she was born in New York but she grew up in Grand Prairie, Texas

Giving the date she graduated is superfluous
@Dasani: why are you pushing for the date Gomez graduated from high school to be included in the article? I haven't seen such detail in other biographies of Disney actresses I've looked at, it's superfluous as the reference covers it well enough. AFAIK this is the only recent interview Gomez has done in which she discusses her education, and she doesn't mention that she is in her final year or her plans RE college. Ottre 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Bristol Palin and Jamie Lynn Spears were linked as such, so maybe it would be acceptable only to put month and date. The age is a little tricky as her birthday is a little later in the year than most people would have expected (same with Cyrus). ★ <b style="color:#ba6afd;">Dasani</b> ★ 23:16, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, a bit unrelated, but why is the interview quote in italics? Unless it is a foreign language, it is usually generally highly discouraged to use italics or bold in a Wikipedia article. I'm going to undo that right now. ★ <b style="color:#ba6afd;">Dasani</b> ★ 23:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The Bristol Palin article has no relevance. She is not an actress, so naturally her biography is going to be more topical than chronological. Based on some of the articles in Category:American child actors, I think the Jamie Lynn Spears article is an exception to the rule. I've gone ahead and changed it to the age when she graduated. Also, it's standard practice to put quotes in italics. You probably haven't seen it before because we are cutting down on the use of quotes in BLPs, they create all sorts of POV issues. Ottre 01:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It is probably more likely that grad. dates do not appear on other child actor pages because of the absence of a reliable source reporting the date, the absence of an editor finding and adding the date, and the number of *child* actors who have not yet graduated than because graduation is considered unencyclopedic. The WP:FA Emma Watson has a great deal of information on her education under "Personal life", littered with dates. I think keeping "May 2010" is fine, and more accurate than an age.
 * Also, would you mind linking me to the policy saying quotes should be written in italics? I haven't seen it, and it means a lot of pages need to be fixed! liquidluck ✽ talk  02:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't go "fixing" things. I italicize quotes on talk pages because it's my preference, but ITALIC says not to use them in articles.&mdash;Kww(talk) 02:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I didn't think it was policy. liquidluck ✽ talk  03:10, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Burnin' Up
Could it be noted that Selena, in fact, did make a cameo in Burin' up by the Jonas Brothers? If it could it would mean alot. Graceannhill (talk) 14:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Minor change
It would read better if it says her family "has" Mexican and Italian roots, not "had."Mst3kk3tsm (talk) 04:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed; I've made the change. Thanks for pointing it out. Voluntary Slave (talk) 05:08, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

yes it is better that way but does she really have italian roots? yes it says in her show wizards of waverly place it does but just beacuse it says in the show that she is a quarter italian doesnt mean that in real life is actually is a quarter italian!

Music: Hannah Montana: If cupid had a heart
Didn't she sing that song? 12.218.12.255 (talk) 00:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Lemony_Snicket
 * No she didn't. She did the physical performance, the vocals were performed by another person. --NrDg 18:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

But it sounds like her -LLR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.144.24 (talk) 21:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes she sang that song i have proof! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.160.97 (talk) 00:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

IT'S NOT SELENA GOMEZ AND IT DOESN'T SOUND A THING LIKE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.171.70.92 (talk) 02:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Selena sang in her Christmas 'O8 video greeting acapella. It's not possible that she has some sort of amplifier or any other technological stuff. Her voice there is good and sounds like her record. Why would she record an album if the singer is not her? It would be useless and pointless to release the record without crediting the real singer. So most probably, she sang the songs in her record and this song.

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooo not her! I'm a total righter not a total wronger. Did u buy her cd? Uh no! well ur wrong! That's not her! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.171.0.148 (talk) 15:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

IT ISN'T HER. LOOK IT UP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liittlegg (talk • contribs) 12:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

IT ISN'T HER IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN GET A CLUE STARRING LINDSEY LOHAN AND BRENDA SONG THE SAME SONG IS IN THE BACKGROUND —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.174.166.195 (talk) 00:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay I think people need to calm down here. I have no doubt Selena Gomez can sing the song, but the singer Julie Griffin has an album by the same name with the song on - here a link to it on Rhapsody - Rhapsody.com. If you have listened to Selena's other singles you might realise the voice on 'If Cupid Had A Heart' sounds different to all her other songs. Anyway I think you are straying from the point - Selena Gomez is a good singer - you should all be focusing on that not on petty issues like did she really sing the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockTheWorld09 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

i dont think whether or not she sang the song is "petty", and no, i dont think she sang it. BUT she has a gr8 voice, so i doesnt matter if she did lip-sync on one song. ROCK ON SELLY! *dream on*dance on* 00:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylor Lane (talk • contribs) I am not sure whether or not she sang the song, but it didn't sound like her. But, either way, I don't think it needs to be mentioned because, if she did sing the song, she only sang part of it. 8:42, 19 January 2010--Mackenziealice (talk) 15:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

That's not Selena. She has a fuller voice. And by fuller, I mean deeper. Watch/listen Falling Down here-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0avDwfyXb8- As you can hear, this voice is lower, more fuller sounding. And I agree with Mackenziealice, it's a great song. Graceannhill (talk) 14:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Selena Gomez and The Scene
Her new band, should it be included here or not? Selenafan35 (talk) 21:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC) Yes it should. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jassgirl (talk • contribs) 19:10, 18 May 2010 (UTC) - It should be noted with a link to the wiki page for the band. Graceannhill (talk) 14:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Selena and the Scene's Discography Should Be On Selena's Article
It should be included in Selena's aritlce with a link to Selena Gomez and the Scene's article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.58.47 (talk) 04:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Why? Eeekster (talk) 01:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

It doesnt nned to be there is a link to the actual page the information does not need to be restated here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.63.14 (talk) 10:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Taylor Lautner
She didnt date Taylor Lautner —Preceding unsigned comment added by XxCiCixX1000 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't see a mention him in the article. Do you? liquidluck ✽ talk  17:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

selena is a singer/actress —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.126.40.64 (talk) 15:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

If she did date Taylor L. It relly shouldn't be noted. Graceannhill (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Is Selena Gomez & the Scene section necessary?
The article Selena Gomez & the Scene mentions everything in the section you have. Wouldn't it be better to put: See: Selena Gomez & the Scene, instead of the little information you do have? People may not know that there is an article. Selenaismylife555 (talk) 04:50, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * There is now, and there always should have been. Thanks for the reminder. liquidluck ✽ talk  05:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

barney
I watched Barney when I was a little girl but I never seen an eposiode with Selena Gomez before what's up with that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.242.172.185 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The series had around 75 kids over its numerous seasons- maybe you missed her. liquidluck ✽ talk  05:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Place of birth
I was reverted after changing Gomez's birthplace, so per WP:BRD, I'm bringing the conversation here. People.com also says she was born in Texas, but I believe they are mistaken. and I discussed it a bit on my talk page and through edit summaries; he pointed out that IMDb and Aceshowbiz.com also say Gomez was born in Texas, but I doubted the reliability of those sites. Allmusic (source) and US Weekly (source -click "bio") both say she was born in NYC; There's also this scan of a J-14 article ("Growing Up Wasn't Easy" - "Though she was born in New York City, Selena was raised in Grand Prairie, TX..."), although I don't consider J-14 as reliable. liquidluck ✽ talk 05:00, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah the whole thing is a bit confusing. I'm going to do a bit more research on this myself right now.(Movieguruman (talk) 05:07, 11 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Thanks for commenting. Let us know what you find! liquidluck ✽ talk  05:09, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

www.selenagomezfan.com/facts.php says that she was born in Texas.(Movieguruman (talk) 05:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC))

www.nndb.com/people/509/000163020/ says that she was born in Dallas, Texas.(Movieguruman (talk) 05:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Fansites aren't reliable, but IMDB apparently also says she was born in NYC. liquidluck ✽ talk  05:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, one of the mini-bios (contributed by "Somebody") says she was born in NYC, while the other mini-bio (contributed by "anonymous") says she was born in TX. Regardless, not too reliable. liquidluck ✽ talk  05:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Alright, problem: In this youtube video, Selena says she was born in Grand Prairie, Texas (@0:43). I'm reverting my edits back to the original, sourced by People, but the video may be fraudulent (there's a lot of splicing in it) and it certainly can't be referenced. liquidluck ✽ talk 02:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Selena's proper name is Selena Marie Kayligh Gomez. Her Best Friend taylor swift —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.4.74.80 (talk) 18:37, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Selena was born in Grand Prairie according to my beliefs. Even on her youtube account, it says "Hometown: Grand Prairie" "State: Texas." Graceannhill (talk) 14:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Romokoco, 5 May 2010
Add Selena gomezs height too her height is 5/6

Romokoco (talk) 05:02, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your request. Do you know of a reliable source which says Gomez is 5' 6''? All information in Wikipedia articles, especially articles about living people, should be verifiable. liquidluck ✽ talk  05:37, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Well she said in her live web chat that shes 5/6 but this says shes 5/5 (http://hollywood.premiere.com/celebrity-Selena+Gomez) and I don't know which is true but shes around that area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Romokoco (talk • contribs) 08:07, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Romokoco, 5 May 2010
Romokoco (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Blank request, cancelled.  Chzz  ►  12:33, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Blue Peter Necessary?
Selena only did an interview on the show and performed a song, unless you are going to include all her other interviews, (The Ellen Degeneres Show for example.) in her filmography section I dont think it is necessary to have it in there because it was only an interview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.126.16 (talk) 00:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Selena Gomez in Jonas Brothers music video
I was watching Jonas Brothers music video "Burnin' Up" and saw Selena Gomez in it. If you do not believe, you can go watch the video for yourself. FanOfMusic (talk) 09:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

YES! Somebody else see's it! I made a section up at the top of the page. I see it too Nicholascma! Graceannhill (talk) 21:28, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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Singles
Umm,on her discography. where it says singles, there are other single she has recorded and selled - the following: Falling Down, Naturally. Those are not on the section. thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magictrixie (talk • contribs) 22:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Soundtracks
Should include "Kiss & Tell", which isn't included in the 2010 spot in the chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magictrixie (talk • contribs) 22:36, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato split
I know this made massive head lines just wondering why it was removed from the article :/ Not trying to be mean or anything but could this be The Walt Disney Company media spinners trying to cover up stuff? Pleze don't say anything mean, I'm just saying... If it's being featured in every teen magazine, it's noteworthy... If you don't include it its like rewriting history... Dreamtickz (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

-Honestly, in my opinion, it could be noted if wanted, but... I don't think it would make a differecne. Graceannhill (talk) 14:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it is fairly important to this person. I mean her and Demi were friends for 10 years and did a lot of stuff together so its importnt to note there friendship and what has happened to it in the last few months. Hoyleslr (talk) 01:07, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, though it could be seen to be speculative. But yes, it could be quite easily referenced considering the number of news sources, but I guess the question is "how does this affect who Selena Gomez is today?" because Wikipedia is a biographical article on Selena Gomez. ID0283658235 (talk) 04:30, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Selena Gomez a Christian?
Hi, I was reading the article and it says she is a Christian. I was not sure but does wearing a purity ring make you a Christian. I looked at the article and she talked about wearing a purity ring as a promise to God, but does that necessarily mean she is a Christian? Could she be another religion Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Bahai Faith, Jain, or anything else and still wear a purity ring as a promise to God, or is this not possible? Please let me know, and please let me know if there are any articles where Selena Gomez says she is Christian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.168.213.228 (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sources didn't support Christianity as a faith, so it has been removed.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:59, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * On her album thank yous, she thanks "My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for giving me my passion and life." If that's not confirming that Selena is a Christian, then I don't know what is. Pretty sure all Christians thank Jesus Christ. --Geekboy6 (talk) 21:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Selena Gomez is a Christian. When she said that wearing a Purity Ring is a promise to God and herself she ment that wearing a Purity Ring is a symbol that she won't make the same mistake that her mom made as a teenager and remain a Virgin until she gets married. And Geekboy6 all Christians do the right thing and thank Jesus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.68.211.187 (talk) 08:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure there is a little more to being a Christian than just wearing a purity ring and thanking God. Now I'm not saying that Christians dont't do that, I'm just saying that that isn't all there is to it. I'm also not saying that Selena Gomez isn't a Christian, she may be.  Its just that anybody can wear a purity ring and anybody can say thank you to God and not mean it.  So I don't think it should be added in the article because nobody really knows except her if she meant those things and if she truly loves and has accepted Jesus as her Lord and Savior.Kgreg10 (talk) 07:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, this is fairly definitive evidence regarding her faith orientation. That she stated that Jesus is her "Lord and Savior", is, per the Bible, admissibility in to the Christian faith, and demonstrates her religious orientation. But like I stated before, this is a biography; so the question is how does this alter who she is as a person today? Given that Barrack Obama page does say that he is Christian, I'd say it is somehow relevant. ID0283658235 (talk) 04:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Well that is stupid. We may as well remove anything saying someone is religous on Wikipedia. Because we dont know if they truly believe. For one thing she wears a purity ring. I have never heard of any other type of religion athiest or not ( NOT NON RELIGOUS PEOPLE ) wearing purity rings. Why would any eastern religion ever use something like this. Premarital sex is far more accepted in the east. I have never heard of any other abrahamic religion doing so. Anyway she is from the deep south of the U.S.A were around 70-80% of people are christian. Please dont take this as me being pro christian or pro purity ring because im not. Would it be much better if stars took the time to edit there own wikipedia pages... Hoyleslr (talk) 01:16, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * A recent interview with the Daily Mail says "Central to Selena’s focus are her family and her Christian faith," which I think would be an appropriate source to use if we want to say in the article that she is a Christian. I'd add it, but I'm not sure where we should put it.VoluntarySlave (talk) 02:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Genre
It should tell us what genres Selena Gomez sings for her songs, because maybe people need it if they're doing a bio on SelGomez.

Selena Marie Gomez born July 22 1992-December 19 2009 was an american actress she played the role of Alex on Wizards of Waverly place which premiered on October 12 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.32.29.13 (talk) 22:22, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Uh, I think she sings rock/pop. 75.145.56.73 (talk) 20:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Teefey vs. Teefy
I believe that Selena's parents' name is spelled Teefey rather than Teefy. The People article which is source 9 (here) spells the name Teefey. I am not sure if there are other reliable sources that use the Teefy spelling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.113.103 (talk) 17:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.255.118.40, 26 June 2010
editsemiprotected

Selena Gomez's parents last name is spelled Teefey, not Teefy.

76.255.118.40 (talk) 17:00, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Reliable source? <font face="Kristen ITC"><font color="#ff0000">C <font color="#ff6600">T <font color="#ffff00">J <font color="#009900">F <font color="#0000ff">8 <font color="#6600cc">3 pride 18:41, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

here are two sources to support this: People and The Daily Mail —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calciumwaste (talk • contribs) 05:12, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering is it time for maybe to give Selena her own awards page?

Honey Bee Real (talk) 18:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC) Malia

File:Selena Gomez.jpg

{She is the most prettiest people in the world}

In the 2010 most beautiful list selena gomez was in the list but its not mentioned on her page even though its mentioned on other poeples pages like Miley Cyrus and Taylor Momsen   - I have proof that she is on the list go to this link  http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978204256 and look at no.62

Edit request from Saadboy17, 11 September 2010
umm selena has 3 other videos not mentioned here. Naturally, Round and Round, and A Year Without Rain —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadboy17 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Dream Out Loud
I think it should have its own page as there is lots of information on this page that is not needed, it rambles on about it too much i think, this information would sit well on its own page, like the Stuff by Hilary Duff page for Hilary Duff. just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.58.160 (talk) 00:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from AriannaMesser, 27 September 2010
Change her picture. It's ugly.

AriannaMesser (talk) 22:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You'd need to find a superior photo that was also licenced under the GFDL, CC-BY-SA, or was uncopyrighted. -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 22:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors are suppose to be up to date, especially with biographies. I do not understand why her single "A Year Without Rain" has not been mentioned in the article, and it was released a long time ago. Not to mention, alot of other songs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.1.139.211 (talk) 21:16, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia editors are volunteers; they're not "supposed" to do anything. If you think the article should be changed, find a reliable reference, write the text, and submit a properly formed edit-protected template. -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 22:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

edit

along with everything else people have been pointing out, she is in the music video New Classic with Drew Seeley.

Edit request from Tasha2679, 24 September 2010
Please add to Selena Gomez's occupation that she's also an ambassador/entrepreneur and fashion designer. And can you please change her pictures... Can you also put something about her dating life too??

Tasha2679 (talk) 22:15, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

You need to provide specific changes, not general descriptions. Since she isn't an ambassador or fashion designer, those are clearly out of the question. If you can find sources for the other information, feel free to suggest specific changes using those sources.&mdash;Kww(talk) 22:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

no but he/she is right. Selena Gomez serves as the ambassador for UNIFEC. i have proof http://www.unicefusa.org/news/releases/teen-sensation-selena-gomez.html and she is the designer of her own clothing line, Dream Out Loud. i have proof hollywoodcrush.mtv.com/2010/.../selena-gomez-kmart-clothing-line —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saadboy17 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Shake it Up
She sang the theme song for Shake it Up, the song has the same name, yet there is no mention of it here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.64.97 (talk) 22:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Associated Acts
Currently, it is listed that Selena Gomez associated acts are 'Selena Gomez and the Scene'and Alison Marvel. But it used to be that her associated acts were: Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Forever the Sickest Kids, Drew Seeley [Yes she is in a movie with Drew Seeley, it's in a movie called somthing like 'Another Cinderella Story'](I think?), and maybe some others. I'm not sure which is correct, but I just wanted to point it out. 8:25, 19 January 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackenziealice (talk • contribs) When you see Selena sing If cupid had a heart it wasn't her it was someone who sang it a while ago like maybe five to ten years from 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Strider35712 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 7 July 2010 (UTC) sorry i accidentally posted the cupid had a heart in the wrong section! sorry!

People are dumb, of course that is not Selena Gomez, obviously someone else singing it and she's just lip syncing.

she dated Taylor LAutner, Why not mention? They both love bananas and they are just perfect. Currently she is dat ing Justin Drew Bieber —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.90.1 (talk) 16:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


 * - Duh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.182.11 (talk) 01:39, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Fry122, 19 November 2010
Selena Gomez has music videos "Naturally", "A Year Without Rain", "Round & Round" and "Falling Down"

Fry122 (talk) 06:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Please see Selena Gomez & the Scene →<span style="color:darkseagreen; font-family:'Trebuchet MS', Verdana, sans-serif;">Gƒoley Four  <font color="#FFAA00">(GSV)  23:31, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Gómez
Her name is in Spanish and thus requires the ortographic accent mark. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.93.130.8 (talk • contribs)
 * She doesn't go by that spelling. --Confession0791 talk 03:14, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit ReQuest
She is nominated for a Win Award on Actress Feature Film Ramona and Beezus. http://www.thewinawards.com/2010WINAwardsNom.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinterWonderland22 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Nominated for an Image Award
http://www.naacpimageawards.net/42/nominees-and-honorees/ for Outstanding Performance in a Youth/Children's Program (Series or Special) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WinterWonderland22 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from WinterWonderland22, 15 January 2011
She is nominated for a Win Award on Actress Feature Film Ramona and Beezus. http://www.thewinawards.com/2010WINAwardsNom.htm that should appear on the list of Awards she is nominated for

WinterWonderland22 (talk) 18:24, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Not done: I can't find any evidence that this is a notable award. This is unfortunate, as, looking at their website, their organization looks very positive and valuable. Unfortunately, without some evidence that this award is notable, I don't think we can include it here. I'll keep looking, though, and, if I can, will add info about it (ideally creating a new page for WIN). If you have any information about WIN from reliable sources (not press releases), could you bring it to me on my talk page? Qwyrxian (talk) 07:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

"Entrepreneurship"?
That's a strong word usually meaning one who is an originator or creator of a business. It seems equally likely, especially at these ages, that her celebrity status caused others to suggest ideas to her. Did the Beatles say "Let's put ourselves on lunchboxes"? I doubt it. So perhaps a better title would be "side businesses". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.14.106 (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Picture
I think It's about time to change her Picture, that's an old one.

This is from this year, the Seventh Hollywood Style Awards http://i53.tinypic.com/xp0t8p.jpg

yes i agree! and i like this picture too lilmissrusso 20:23, 7 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilmissrusso (talk • contribs)
 * Everyone that wants a new picture can feel free to grab a camera, take a picture of Selena Gomez, and release the picture to the public. We can't use copyrighted images.&mdash;Kww(talk) 20:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm agree with you. I would upload a picture of her, but I can't find any free photos in the internet. Could anyone grab a camera, take a picture of Selena, and upload it to wikipedia. Maybe someone find a free picture in the internet of her. Thanks a lot. --Simon.hess (talk) 20:44, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

American Latino Awards
I can't find any source that confirms American Latino Awards was assigned. Maybe it should be deleted from Awards and nominations. Digitalone (talk) 08:12, 23 January 2011 (UTC) and do not use this site because u CAN change some of the infomation on here

Edit request from ReachTutorials, 21 February 2011
edit semi-protected

There is some thing i need to add all the websites she goes on so people will know that there are posers in the world that try to be her i hope that you will acknowledge my request

ReachTutorials (talk) 04:54, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Not done. This is not specific enough, nor is it encyclopedic. <font face="COLONNA MT" color="blue">ICY <font face="COLONNA MT" color="orange">TIGER'S <font face="COLONNA MT" color="red">BLOOD 05:55, 21 February 2011 (UTC)