Talk:University of Exeter

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Holland Hall
The article Holland Hall has been listed as an article for deletion. See Articles for deletion/Holland Hall. The discussion is moving towards merging it into University of Exeter. There seems to be no consideration of the fact that there are pages for five other Halls at Exeter and that University of Exeter Halls of Residence exists. The page was badly written and obvious vanity from a Holland Hall resident. I have have had an attempt to make it better. If you want to keep this article, and perhaps all the others on Halls at Exeter (and indeed the many articles on Halls elsewhere) go to Articles for deletion/Holland Hall and vote to keep it. Give reasons. Votes without reasons are often ignored. I have done what I can, but I have no real interest in Exeter University. I just have an interest in articles on Halls and Colleges and came across this deletion notice by chance. --Bduke 21:30, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Exeter University Gilbert and Sullivan Society
I've nominated the article in question for a merge into this article. To be honest, I'm only doing this as a courtesy. I have a feeling it's going to be deleted eventually. I'm not sure that any of the Society article content has a place in this article, let alone its own. --Maxamegalon2000 18:31, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * It couldn't be that hard to create a new section called "student organizations" as part of the "today" section and smerge the G&S society in there. &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge in of University of Exeter Halls of Residence

 * Disagree. Articles on Halls are difficult as they get vandalised by members of the Hall. I got these on my watch list when an article on Holland Hall was up for deletion. The result of that debate was that University of Exeter Halls of Residence was created and ALL articles on Exeter Halls were merged there. In some other universities since then the same process has happened but in other cases several individual Hall articles still exist. I take the view that Halls can be notable and that they deserve more than just listing on the main University page. If this longish article is merged into University of Exeter then either that article will be unbalanced or too much information about the Halls will be lost. Leave them both as they are. It was a reasonable compromise earlier in the year. --Bduke 23:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In support of the above, several of Exeter's Halls are the old family homes of historically important local families, and in the case of Reed Hall, is also the home to an early botanical Garden. I believe that interest in Halls of Residence goes beyond their connexion with a University. --Dan 17:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Disagree Space conditions merit this article on its own. The information if Verifiable and not Original Research so why the rush to merge things. Ans e ll  03:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

University ratings
(I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on WikiProject Universities.)

There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities. Timrollpickering 22:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there any reason for some of the results in the table have the equals sign in front or behind them? If there is then it should probably be stated on the page so viewers can understand it's meaning; if not, would be worth taking them out. SiCoe (talk) 13:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

University of Exeter Userbox
I have created a University of Exeter userbox. Just add to your user page for the userbox  --Benjaminevans82 01:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Current news involving the Christian Union
This is generating both controversy and frankly a lot of ignorance in the media at the moment. If anyone wants to have a bash at sourcing this and keeping it accurate and bias free (which I may not be able to given my blog comments on this) this feel free to use the sites I've linked to in my blog posts on this matter:


 * http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com/2006/11/on-christian-unions-and-students.html
 * http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com/2006/11/bishops-jump-on-bandwagon.html
 * http://timrollpickering.blogspot.com/2007/01/christian-union-looking-for.html

In particular you'll find links to a site that's deeply critical of the UCCF doctrinal statement and challenges the assertion that it's just "what Christians believe". Timrollpickering 20:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

We need to tone down the CU sutff. This wiki is about Exeter University, but 1/4 of it is dedicated to the CU - an imbalancement to say the least.

Split Students' Guild
While part of the University, the Guild is fully independent, and contains a large number of societies. Some of these societies are notable in their own right, such as Xpression FM and Exeposé. The Guild manages millions of pounds of facilities (shops, pubs, etc). Its management has sometimes been controversial within the University, and this year has come into the glare of the mainstream media with the Evangelical Christian Union disputes. I think the Students' Guild should be split into it's own entry. --h2g2bob 15:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree- h2g2bob has raised a very good point. I agree the the Guild does warrant an article in its own right. I have had a quick look at other British university student union/guild articles on wikipedia and Bristol, Birmingham and Oxford are all quite good. I particularly like the info box on Bristols.--Benjaminevans82 22:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Disagree- Theres very little else to say about the guild than whats already in the article. The societies attached to it are hardly noteworthy and its going to act as an invitation for students to vandalise the page regarding their club/soc. Also currently I feel the student media pages are circling the AfD drain, so it may be worth merging them into one "student media at exeter" article.


 * Disagree its not really notable and if anything should be cutdown rather than forked. Sherzo 15:57, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree- Someone has gone and deleted the very good Xpression FM page despite it being one of the most comprehensive sources of information on the Station on the internet. I think it should be restored. Guild life, and particularly the Radio station can be the most significant part of a students experience at Exeter. The station is a member of the Student Radio Association, many of which have their own seperate pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_Radio_Association Seddonism 19:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Sitting on the Fence The Xpression FM article came to the attention of an AfD over a month ago (see Articles for deletion/Xpression FM) because at the time it had a long list of non-notable people associated with the station, and no references for the rest of the text. The article was later trimmed (by me) but unfortunately had already attracted enough negative attention to cause it to be deleted. If the Guild is split off, I'd suggest being very careful that it doesn't become a directory of staff/students, soap box, or list of societies.Chriswiki 20:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree The Students' Guild is a completely separate and distinct organisation and will soon become a full charity (like most Students' Union/Guilds) under the recently amended Charities Act. The Students Guild is one of the leading Union/Guilds in the UK in many different areas.  THe Guild Affiliated Organisations (X-Media[X-tv, Exepose, X-pression FM and X-net], Community Action and Exeter RAG Charities Appeal) are national leaders inparticular for their support and development opportunities and help produce some of the most employable graduates in the country.  On top of this Community Action provide one of the highest numbers of student volunteers in the UK to community groups and RAG raises £70,000+ per annum for nominated charities throughout the UK.  The knowledge of a great organisation could be displayed here for best practise in Unions as well as other organisations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmeldred (talk • contribs) 21:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Disagree It really isn't notable on it's own - how's it any different from any other student's union? Certainly keep the section on it in this article, though perhaps cut it down a little, but no, it really shouldn't be forked off, 'else it'll be an obvious candidate either for a speedy-delete per A7, or an AfD that'll likely result in deletion. The Islander 00:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree I would normally agree that SU's aren't notable enough on their own for their own articles, but I believe this one is by virtue of the ECU controversy (which has recived widespread national coverage).


 * As said ECU issue may now be set to re-ignite, it should be born in mind that this section may grow bigger, and it takes up a fair chunk of the article page as is. Man from the Ministry (talk) 01:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Disagree. Just take a look at AfD. There are several UK Student Unions up for deletion and I do not see them being kept. At least wait and see how that works out. --Bduke (talk) 01:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment Surely that isn't really relevant? Just because another Student Union isn't notable doesn't mean that all SUs are unnotable. The Exeter Students' Guild has been involved in events that have been the subject of national reportage and may need its own article, to prevent this section bloating the University article. Man from the Ministry (talk) 01:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

recent developments
guys, the university is undergoing a £235 million change, not £130 million (this is an old figure from last year - lets use the new one).

More CU
"On 26 February 2007, the Guild issued a statement saying that Ben Martin is now willing to follow the Internal Complaints Procedure.[32]"

Who is Ben Martin and what is he following Internal Complaints Procedure for??

CaptinJohn 11:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * From recollection of press reports he's something like the CU Social Secretary and the main agitator on this issue. Timrollpickering 12:20, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Contradictory statement
In the introduction it says "British newspapers currently tend to rank Exeter among the top five education institutions in the UK" yet in the Academic Ranking section none of the UK rankings show it even in the top 10. 134.226.1.194 (talk) 17:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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 * I've removed the above image from the article: it's only a slight variation on the University's main logo, and I don't feel that it meets WP:NFCC. — mholland (talk) 19:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Earliest evidence
The statement about the 'earliest evidence of university education' dating back to 1225, is, I humbly submit, a load of wank, as none of the evidence supplied refers to a university. If contrary evidence is not supplied, it should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.80.30.68 (talk • contribs)
 * Well, it certainly needs a source, but that could be forthcoming. It refers to "for the formation of a centre of ecclesiastical learning". That does not sound different from what was going on at Oxford at that time. Was Oxford described as a University then? I say it is interesting and should be kept if sourced. I will add a "citation needed" tag. --Bduke (talk) 00:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

'A source could be forthcoming'. What kind of investigative rigor is that, Bduke? A source 'could be forthcoming' that Fred Astaire engaged in cannibalism, but that would be no grounds to put it on his Wikipedia article. About Oxford University - yes, this was specifically described as a 'universitas'. As for it being 'interesting', that is also a 'Loch Ness Monster' type criterion which has no relation to whether it's true or not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.142.159 (talk) 19:57, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I do not think describing an entry as a load of wank is appropriate. As for Oxford, I am not at all sure that the first groups of scholars to go there were described as a 'universitas'. That is one reason why it is so difficult to point to an exact date of its foundation. There are few sources for the early scholars. Nevertheless I believe you are correct that St John's Hospital School had no resemblance to a university. The history here mentions nothing revelant. --Bduke (talk) 23:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Alumni
Can anyone confirm for sure that Zara Phillips actually studied at Exeter? When I enrolled in 2000 it was rumoured that she was due to arrive and study some equine related degree and stay in Mardon Hall where I was placed. That never occurred and I don't believe she ever enrolled.

Googling the subject often comes up with the same one liner of "Zara later enrolled at Exeter University and qualified as a physiotherapist" so I think most sites are just quoting off one another. One site lists her education as "Equine Physiotherapy from the University of Exeter" which is a course I am not even sure they offer.

Does anyone have any reliable information on this? HalfSugar (talk) 00:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * She not appear to be listed in the on-line Alumni Directory, not that that proves anything. Pterre (talk) 15:22, 1 June 2011 (UTC)


 * This telegraph piece implies that she didn't attend. (it does seem to be a single voice saying that though) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.217.237 (talk) 09:54, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Edits Concerning University IT Services
Edits that did not meet Wikipedia standards were removed by University of Exeter staff. In particular, they did not meet one of the 'Five Pillar's' of Wikipedia, namely that content should be neutral and that "personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong here", without at least indepedent references or citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richpb7 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Restructure of this article
I'd like to propose a significant restructure of this article. The article is quite inconsistent with other UK universities (see the Wikipedia entries for Durham, Southampton, Warwick, Kent, etc), and this makes the article difficult to make major revisions to. The article is in need of significant updating, most references date back to 2006/2007 or even before (with a few exceptions), e.g, 2001 RAE. So now would be a good time for restructure before making updates. I've already made some amendments to the intro section.

I've performed some sandbox testing, and these headings would be consistent with other articles, and allow a platform for modernisation. Most of the existing content could be moved quite easily into these headings. However, these are just my thoughts and this is not my article. So please share your views and opinions below.

1 History 1.1 19th Century 1.2 20th Century 1.3 21st Century 2 Campus 2.1 Streatham campus 2.2 St Luke's campus 2.3 Tremough campus (University of Exeter, Cornwall Campus) 2.4 Recent developments 3 Organisation and administration 3.1 Academic colleges and departments 3.2 Governance 3.3 Coat of arms 4 Academic profile 4.1 Admissions 4.2 Rankings and reputation 4.3 National Student Survey 4.4 Research and collaboration 5 Student life 5.1 Students' Guild 5.2 Halls of residence 5.3 Sport 6 Notable people 6.1 Current and former members of academic staff 6.2 Alumni 7 See also 8 References 9 External links

BornSeller (talk) 16:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine by me, thank you for your effort. Might be worth involving WikiProject Universities if you haven't already. :) ~ Kimelea   (talk)  17:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * BornSeller, why don't you just go for it! It's the best way to work on Wikipedia, make bold edits. You can't "break" anything, if someone disagrees, they can revert it back and we can have a discussion then. The fact is that the article has only been edited about 50 times in the past 6 months, so it's not a high traffic area, so knock yourself out. I think it would be a good change by the way.  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 09:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments Kimelea and Worm. The bold edits advice is good (it just initially seemed to me to be a bit arrogant making substantial changes without some form of community discussion). The pointer to WikiProject Universities project is invaluable - the standardisation and other principles are exactly what I was trying to achieve - I just didn't realise it :) I'll go ahead with some forthcoming changes when time allows. BornSeller (talk) 10:51, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The new look is really good, a major improvement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.187.6 (talk) 22:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

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Admissions?
I may have misunderstood something but it seems to me that "Admission to the university is very competitive, with an average of more than seven students applying for every undergraduate place" and "The university gives offers of admission to 90.8% of its applicants" are incompatible. Is one or other or both wrong? MongogramForCandy (talk) 13:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)