Talk:Virgin Media

Split proposal
I propose that the section Virgin Media be split into:
 * Telewest (already present)
 * NTL (perhaps reinstating a version around this date)
 * Note: it appears that the merge was never discussed at NTL.


 * Virgin.net
 * Premium TV
 * Virgin Mobile

The article is currently too long, according to guidance at WP:SIZERULE. It should be reduced to a reasonable size. --Trevj (talk) 21:26, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I disagree that the article is too long per se, but am not against reducing the History section where the content exists elsewhere or could more appropriately do so. If a separate NTL article is created, which I would support, then undoubtedly the large NTL and Premium TV-related sub-sections of the History section in this article could be much reduced, although I would be against them being wholly removed as they provide useful and necessary context. Doing this would enable the overall length of the History section to be much reduced.


 * I would be in favour of the 'Telewest (1984–2006)' sub-section of the History section being reduced in so far as it duplicates content in the Telewest article, but again I would be against it being wholly removed and a couple of brief paragraphs does not seem to me either excessive or inappropriate.


 * The rest of the History section should in my view remain as is. The option exists to create a separate 'History of Virgin Media' article in time, although the steps above would reduce the short-term need for such a move.Rangoon11 (talk) 21:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Rangoon11's method seems good. I would also consider trimming the UKTV section and possibly summarising Virgin Media Television. Virgin.net and Premium TV might be better off included in the NTL article rather than as separate stubs. The Virgin Mobile section isn't in the history and already has its own article (Virgin Mobile UK). - Jasmeet_181 (talk) 17:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry - my proposal was a little ambiguous. I'm not proposing splitting the entire section (i.e. a Split section), although History of Virgin Media could be created if the amount of material to be retained is too much. I think that retaining concise histories of pertinent points is important. My main concern is that a lot of content was lost from NTL and should be reinstated at a new page, e.g. NTL (company). IMO this should ideally be done in such a way that the edit history for the company is not lost. Therefore, how about:
 * Replace (currently unused) NTL (disambiguation) with current contents of NTL
 * Move NTL to NTL (company)
 * Edit NTL (company) to the contents of a date such as that previously mentioned above
 * Place a note at Talk:NTL (disambiguation) explaining that some edit history for the dab is at NTL (company)
 * Edit NTL (disambiguation) to include NTL (company) in place of NTL:Telewest
 * Move NTL (disambiguation) to NTL
 * Edit NTL:Telewest to redirect to NTL (company)
 * Is there anyone around here who can shed some light on past edits? If so, this could save having to potentially trawl through any relevant discussions.
 * Is it possible that an admin would have the right privileges to tidy the mixed edit histories of the company page and the dab in a preferable manner? Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 19:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not an admin and so can't help with the technicalities but I agree with the proposal.Rangoon11 (talk) 22:06, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You'd need to put in a requested move WP:RM, as the number of pages involved won't make it a simple move. List them all as a single job. - X201 (talk) 16:06, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That can be looked at once others have had time to comment. I've posted a note on WT:COMPANIES and WT:TELECOM --Trevj (talk) 19:29, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Note: This discussion was copied to Talk:NTL on 11 May 2011, in preparation for a requested move. Please do not add further points here. Thanks. --Trevj (talk) 12:30, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Confused About Ownership
I am extremely confused about national identity of the company and the opening paragraph doesn't make it any clearer, the company doesn't appear in the listings of US Companies and SEEMS British from it's history apart from the fact it is primarily listed on the US stock market AND has it's HQ in America but it's operational HQ in the UK, so in retrospect what IS it's national identity? Twobells (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Its national identity is best described as Anglo-American. It is registered and has its principal listing in the U.S. but has its operational headquarters, a seconday listing and virtually all of its operations in the UK. Virgin Group has only a very small shareholding. Rangoon11 (talk) 10:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

UKTV section
This is full of future-facing statements like "They are also now considering HD versions of their channels in 2009," and pretty much none of the first para is relevant anymore. I also feel like the fact that it is no longer owned by Virgin Media should be mentioned earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.220.12.7 (talk) 15:47, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

New Packages
Packages listed in the broadband section have now moved on.

78.146.47.104 (talk) 16:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

news.virginmedia.com
FYI this isn't hosted by Virgin, the article is inaccurate, Virgin Media outsourced to Highwinds a while ago.

Non-authoritative answer:

Name:   virginmedia.svc.highwinds-media.com

Addresses: 81.171.92.236 81.171.92.222

Aliases: news.virginmedia.com

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Plain text password
Should we include a section about this? https://reclaimthenet.org/virgin-media-passwords-plain-text/ --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 16:14, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Not the only cable provider in the UK ?
The article states "Since the acquisition of Smallworld Cable in 2014, Virgin Media is the sole national cable company in Great Britain", but Wightfibre still exist on the Isle of Wight who offer cable connectivity (i.e. cable TV, DOCSIS Internet connectivity) and aren't a part of Virgin Media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.202.73 (talk) 15:19, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Virgin Media Pioneers into Virgin Media
Not notable on own merits Rogermx (talk) 20:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge - Agreed, not notable. Seth Whales   talk  06:01, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge Brief section in VM article is enough. Rema goxer  (talk) 21:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge for above reasons. cagliost (talk) 10:08, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * '''Merge' - Can use its own section rather than an entire article. Alexceltare2 (talk) 15:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Ownership structure
Based on the UK company register :


 * Virgin Media Limited (renamed from NTL Group Limited in 1991) – a company that is still operating – is majority-owned by Virgin Media Operations Limited,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by General Cable Limited (and minority owned by Virgin Media Senior Investments Limited),
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by Virgin Media Senior Investments Limited,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by Virgin Media Investments Limited,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by Virgin Media Investment Holdings Limited,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by Virgin Media Finance plc,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by Virgin Media Communications Limited,
 * ↘ which in turn is majority-owned by VMED O2 UK Limited.

This is to help get the ownership structure right in the lead section and in the infobox. — kashmīrī  TALK  12:55, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * For clarity's sake, Virgin Media O2 is not a company, nor anyone's trading name, but a brand used by some of the companies owned (directly or indirectly) by VMED O2 UK Limited. The brand as it appears now will be used for mobile telephony, consumer broadband services and business broadband services offered by a range of entities from the VMED group. — kashmīrī  TALK  13:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Virgin Media O2 is a company as per their own filing.
 * Formed on 1 June 2021, Virgin Media O2 is a 50:50 joint venture between Liberty Global plc (Liberty Global) and Telefónica, SA (Telefónica). The information provided in this release includes the financial information of VMED O2 UK Limited, a holding company that is not included as a restricted subsidiary for purposes of the facilities agreement and bond indentures governing Virgin Media O2. Disclosures may differ from reporting required under debt covenant arrangements. This release includes the actual IFRS results for Virgin Media O2 for the three months ended 31 March 2023 and the comparative prior year first quarter period. TagKnife (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Virgin Media Finacials
It looks like the finacials of Virgin Media hasnt been updated since 2012. Since Virgin media is a publically traded company these release to the public every quarter and could do with updating.

The latest release is 2023 Q3 https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/2023-financial-results/q3/

TagKnife (talk) 00:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Also noticed most of the details in the info box is outdated and can do with updating. TagKnife (talk) 00:54, 17 January 2024 (UTC)