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Arizona Coyotes, Gila River Arena and related page discussions
Hey Zzyzx11, thank you for your messages. Complete beginner in figuring out how to be a valued contributor. Want to use my knowledge of sports and sports business topics to especially those articles.

My recent edits were based on resources I haven't figured out yet how to list, but doing a few formatted edits on the fly while learning. But I don't want to create an accuracy issue.

Gila River Arena name change was approved by the Glendale City Council on September 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM Mountain Standard Time. Video link to meeting may be available at GlendaleAZ.com at the time of this note.

Additionally, the Arizona Sting information was originally updated after looking at the NLL sites and statistical pages. This was in regards to the time they actually ceased operations.

Still need to learn ASAP how to site references, including any reordering of them in corresponding to the correct source articles.

The Gila River Arena name change press conference is scheduled for September 10th at 12:00 PM Arizona time, so I can insert the appropriate edits for you later in the evening, including revised versions of what edits you had undone.

I can do the same in linking Gila River Arena information to related pages for the Arizona Coyotes, Arizona Rattlers, Phoenix Suns and US Airways Center.

Let me know when you can. Thanks! Bigapplemayhem (talk) 05:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

PS: I plan to return home by around this time on Wednesday night after spending the day in New York City. I can help out at that time.

RfC concerning the article name for Broadway
Because you were involved in a previous discussion on the subject, or related to the subject, please see RfC: What is the best name for the article about the street called "Broadway" which originates in Manhattan? BMK, Grouchy Realist (talk) 02:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

USPLACE discussions
Thank you very much, for completing the archive of previous discussions about USPLACE at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names). There are actually a few other recent ones; I wondered if you left them out deliberately or just didn't know about them?

April 2012: discussion, not officially made into an RFC or officially closed: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2012/June

The November-December 2012 discussion was actually not closed as "no consensus"; it was closed as "maintain status quo (option B)". (Same effect as "no consensus" but not phrased as "no consensus"; can be read as a positive endorsement of status quo.)

RFC June 2013, speedy-closed without full discussion: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)/Archives/2013/June

I'll leave it to your judgment whether to add these or not. Thanks again, it's good to have this record available since the discussion comes up with such regularity! --MelanieN (talk) 22:38, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * There have been numerous discussions, so I have not yet gotten around to make a thoroughly search on all the archives, given the time I had in real life today. Listing all of these was based on this comment I made during the ongoing debate now. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:00, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your digging. Most of the ones you added were "before my time" so it was enlightening to me to see the history. Thanks again.--MelanieN (talk) 15:27, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Siskiyou County
When you "reverted all the edits on the Siskiyou template", did you perchance save the several towns that have wikipages that weren't included on your template before? The town names that were on the page really didn't match the ones in the template and I spent quite a bit of time sorting it all out. I'm sorry it wasn't to your liking, there were no instructions on the template talk page - indeed there was nothing on there - but at least I left you a list of all the towns, CDPs and unincorporateds. Would you take a look at all the communities please and be sure that none got left off that should not be? Since I don't have your experience in this regard, your checking the facts that remain being accurate would be most appreciated. 04:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * - I have included only the links to existing articles from your list, and not the "red links". As I stated on the talk page, this is a navigation box for navigation between existing pages, and should not really be a full list that includes every single "red link" that is unlikely to be created within the next month (see the second paragraph of WP:REDNOT). Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The towns listed on Siskiyou County, California should also now include all the ones on your list. However, as I also stated on the talk page, the "populated place" phrase is too general because sources seem to also classify cities as "populated places". I have made the relevant changes on that, and on the corresponding town articles. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:57, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Photomontage, opinion
Greetings Zzyzx11: I see the photo montages you've been adding to various places including Humboldt County, California. I do not think this montage is as informative or useful as a single photo at the top of the article. The montages make very small pictures in an area which was already small, making it nearly impossible to see on a computer, let alone my phone or tablet. (Yes, I looked on all three platforms, on the phone it is an unintelligible blur.) I think the montage reduces the educational benefit of the image in the infobox and suggest you make photo galleries instead. I have not yet reverted this edit as you listed it as a test edit. I would request that at least for Humboldt County, you return it to an image that is big enough to see on all platforms. Thank you! Ellin Beltz (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * - Feel free to revert it. As you saw in the edit summary, it is a test edit. Some people like these montages, and some don't. See the debate on Talk:San Francisco/Archive 7 for example. After such montages were successfully put on pages such as New York City, Chicago and Washington, D.C., a couple of people supported having one on the San Francisco page as well, but others were against that. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not against all montages, per se. My concern is that the images in the Humboldt one (see your Mendocino edit for contrast) are so small that they become unrecognizable and thus detract rather than add to the article.  I live here and I had trouble figuring out what the pictures represented.  I did revert your edits, and I also removed the image "One Log House" because that building is in Mendocino County, not Humboldt!   Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well noted. I'll just use File:Humboldt Bay and Eureka aerial view.jpg on that page for now. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 23:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a good image to use. I looked at the possibilities and couldn't decide, but I think you have made the best choice!  Cheers!  Ellin Beltz (talk) 06:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

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Re: your comments on an RM discussion
Hello Zzyzx11.

A couple of weeks ago, you and another editor commented on an RM at Talk:Alpine skiing at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Men's Super-G. It has since been updated with answers and sources. Maybe you'd care to re-visit the RM and comment further?

Thanks

HandsomeFella (talk) 08:18, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Only five individual sources seem like a small sample size to make a further opinion on the appropriate WP:COMMONNAME at this time. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:55, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Considering that three of them are consistently using lower-case, one would think that it would be enough to establish that "super-G" is not a proper noun. How often do you really see real proper nouns written in lower-case? It's the other way around that most often is the problem. But allright, I'll see if I can add more sources.
 * HandsomeFella (talk) 12:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * There are now 20 sources altogether. HandsomeFella (talk) 14:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

RM - stadium name change
A RM for Rangers Ballpark in Arlington was recently closed without moving, based in part on the notion that Globe Life Park was not demonstrated to be the WP:COMMONNAME. As you weighed in on the AT&T Stadium move last year, I thought you might want to revisit this decision. Woodshed (talk) 11:32, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The rule of thumb is to wait at least a month before initiating another RM, which conveniently coincides with the first weeks of the MLB season, which should be enough time for all the reliable sources to adjust. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 15:02, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Chagres and Fort San Lorenzo
Thanks for achieving by other means what I had attempted to do 14 mths ago. However, it would be good if you could put back the fort picture which has been lost. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 04:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:03, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Emmy picture
I suppose most people wouldn't notice, but the picture that was previously in the Emmy Award article (File:EmmyAward.png) is a "generic" Emmy picture with a blank label section, whereas the one you replaced it with (File:Emmy statuette.jpg) is an example of a Primetime Emmy. Since the Emmy Award article is about all types of Emmys, I wonder if the other picture wasn't a better choice. (Also, you may note that I partly reverted another of your edits on that page, since the way you wrote it seemed to introduce potentially non-neutral editorial commentary that seemed to assert that the NATAS Tech & Eng awards are more important than the ATAS Primetime Engineering awards.) —Mulligatawny (talk) 12:31, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Feel free to revert that too, but as you mentioned, there is really no informational difference to the average reader. The Emmy statuette is really the same, no matter what ceremony it is presented in. The only difference is zooming in on the plaque engraved on each statuette's base, listing its winner, award category, ceremony, and so forth. Because File:EmmyAward.png is marked as a non-free fair use image, it is restricted by the policies on Non-free content criteria, while File:Emmy statuette.jpg is not and can be used in various other Emmy-related articles. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

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Robin Williams
Thanks for catching this! - I'm wondering if it's a good idea to still list Williams but just clarify. In many cases people are thought of "living" in a community if they have a mailing address with the city name even if it's outside the city limits. In the Houston area there are many areas with Katy, Texas mailing addresses but the actual city of Katy is small WhisperToMe (talk) 18:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * See the related conversation on Talk:Robin Williams. There is confusion by non-US readers when they see "unincorporated" in the cited source, but the Tiburon article states it is "incorporated". If you have something better worded, or a source that is more clear, I'll be open to that option. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * If I can cite a source stating the exact home address, it can be combined with a US Census Bureau map of the town of Tiburon and that is enough to determine whether something is in the city limits WhisperToMe (talk) 18:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Apparently an IP posted an edit request on Talk:Robin Williams, but it was unsourced. If I look that specific address up, Google maps shows that it is in Paradise Cay, California. If that is in fact the correct address, I'm curious about how you would word that on the Tiburon, California page. Most unincorporated communities in California have specific names (and thus often have separate existing Wikipedia articles), like Paradise Cay. I'm not sure that is the same in Texas. Zzyzx11 (talk) 20:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Julia Child and Ross, California
Her article stats she attended a boarding school in Ross for several years. wouldn't that make her a resident? I am sifting thru the refs on her article now. John from Idegon (talk) 22:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Found a solid book reference to her attendance at the boarding school so I put her back. John from Idegon (talk) 22:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There are just way too many editors (especially anonymous IPs) adding to these "notable people" lists without providing a source. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * At least on place articles they are usually at least actually notable. On school articles which is my specialty, it is usually some dude labeling the girl that shut him down the night before a slut. Happy editing! John from Idegon (talk) 22:50, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Template:Infobox venue
I understand the concern about it being now highly-visible, but could you leave it semi-protected for the next day or two? I'd like to be able to respond quickly if there is any problem or feedback as a result of the merge changes. -- Netoholic @ 06:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have not been online until now. For any technical issues or bugs, I would have hoped that you had tested thoroughly on Template:Infobox venue/sandbox before making it live. There are other editors with the template editor permission that have it on their watchlists. So far, it looks like Frietjes found a bug, and was able to correct it. I have not seen any other complaints or issues since I applied the protection (almost 23 hours later) As for any issues regarding the cosmetic changes you boldly added while merging the templates (such as moving the Tenants section above the Construction section) that would most likely need further discussion to determine consensus instead of a need for a quick edit. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:12, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

CAinttop
If you're adding material like to FAs and GAs, could you add a source for it as well? Adding unsourced material causes the risk that the article will be demoted. --Rschen7754 02:30, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm also concerned about your edits to the template, adding additional postmile support. We only use postmiles when state mileages are unavailable, because postmiles are nearly useless for the general reader, and also cannot be converted to kilometers. Please discuss before making such a change next time. --Rschen7754 06:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It was purely done as a bold test. I did not like the results anyway. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:31, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Rt31914
I wasn't expecting that, but thank you.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 18:30, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you remember Sockpuppet investigations/AS92813/Archive? I suspected Rt31914 from the start when he first moved some stadium articles a few days ago using similar comments as the socks of AS92813, but needed him to make further edits to confirm my suspensions and block him. And that on Forever End was it. I'm surprised though that he either failed to notice or chose to ignore the subtle hints and references I made on my previous comments on his talk page that I suspected him. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Is him too?— Ryūlóng  ( 琉竜 ) 18:41, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * That looks like a different person, posting something about the U.S. Democratic Party. That is more noticeable and has been blocked by another admin. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I never really paid attention to what was going on at Forever Red but looking in the history I do see a bunch of IPs that match his previous WHOIS data.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 18:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * If you noticed, I set Forever Red to semi-protection to limit his IPs. That is the best I can do. If I do full, that will do collateral damage to regular users. It is better to indefinitely block sleeper sock accounts that get through. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just been dealing with so many other sockfarms in the past few days I've lost track. The guy who thinks there are people with conflicts of interest with editors of some article I never heard of and claims to be a viking. The guy who wants everyone to be sure that Taiwan should be called "Republic of China (Taiwan)" and that it's a sovereign state with 103 years of independence. And now some guy who wants Hong Kong to be under a list of countries on articles on mass transit systems.— Ryūlóng ( 琉竜 ) 18:59, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

GeoGroup
I'm not certain what you are testing here. I am not of the opinion that adding coordinates benefits that table, but I admit to curiousity as to the purpose behind it. Resolute 00:50, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Template:GeoGroup is used to generate a raw generic map of all the coordinates on an article of section, in KML format, that can be exported to Google Maps, Bing and other similar applications. If you click on the first link in the GeoGroup box on the page now, "Map of all coordinates from Google", Google Maps will then display all the coordinates from that section (in this case, all the NHL teams) on the map. This is an alternative to logging into Google Maps and creating a map directly from there, which someone did to make a map of KHL teams (and a link to that map was added to the bottom of Kontinental Hockey League). Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm, okay. But how does it benefit this article to create a third party map that duplicates the image already in the article?  Particularly given that table is already cluttered?  Is there any way to make that column invisible? Resolute 01:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It provides an additional free map in a different format that others can export, use and modify. Not everyone has or knows how to use an image editor, but everyone can access Google Maps, Bing and others. And no, I do not think it will work if it is invisible. I was meaning to test this back in February before the GM column was added in March, but never got around to do it until now. The inclusion of this GM column already makes the table too cluttered already. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:01, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Glendora, Dottie Walters – Bestselling Author and Motivational Speaker
I noticed you reversed another editor's update for the reason that the proposed link to the person's name was missing. That is fairly common, there are numerous Wikipedia articles which meta link to non-existant pages, it is not usually considered to be a fatal flaw, it is often used as a holding place.

The editor that added the text could have been asked to provide a page to complete the link. In fact I will do so and see if the editor will add a page and then restore his or her proposed update to the Glendora page. Thanks! Damotclese (talk) 16:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * True, but as Srich32977 replied on your cross post on Talk:Glendora, California, a reliable source needs to be added to both show that this person is notable and actually lived in Glendora. Many anonymous users tend to spam these "notable people" sections with original research, names that are not-notable, or cannot be verified. A so-called "red link" may be removed if a case can be made that Wikipedia should not have an article on that subject. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:45, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

2012 NFC/AFC standings template editnotices nominated for deletion
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Super Bowl Fifty-three
Can you do the honors and delete this consensus/AfD rounding attempt to create the article? Thank you.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:43, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * What sources and content can you cite to warrant a new article? Unless there is something substantial, it will be deleted again per WP:CRYSTAL. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I misread your request. Clearly an attempt to circumvent the page protection. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:48, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, the version was clearly false. I do not think the league has announced finalists yet for the host site. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:55, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for your kind message.

Once ABC World News Tonight gets a permanent weekend anchor, then the page should include "with David Muir". The ABC World News Tonight website officially includes the name "with David Muir", they also use it on their social media pages. I suggest you add "with David Muir" once they get a permanent weekend anchor.

Thanks!

Agentdunhamfbi (talk) 01:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)Agentdunhamfbi


 * I decline. Per Wikipedia guidelines, the most common name used by reliable sources should be used, not the official name (see Article titles) Whatever is listed on the official web site is irrelevant. For example, http://variety.com/2014/tv/columns/david-muirs-journey-begins-on-abc-world-news-tonight-1201296423/ primarily only uses "ABC World News Tonight".


 * Furthermore, article titles should be as concise as possible, and consistent with other similar articles (see Article titles). Like the CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News articles, the current name of "ABC World News Tonight" is concise enough, because it contains information on both the weekday and weekend editions, and that is essentially the primary title used 7-days a week. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:28, 7 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Zzyzx11 - Thank you for clarifying my mistake. I did not know, but now I do. Thank you and happy editing!

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A kitten for you!
Thank you for helping me getting started on Wikipedia! You are a great help!

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Re: Gilliam
- Gilliam (talk) 03:16, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Stanley Cup Playoffs
Well for example and to ensure accurate playoff appearances I used for (the Montreal Canadians) List of Montreal Canadiens seasons I went thru and counted myself every playoff appearance they have had beginning with their time spent in the NHA to the NHL from 1913-2014 making it a total of 84 Playoff appearances and as well as this link provided Hockey Teams With the Most Playoff appearances it was last updated in January 2013 but to ensure the accurate number I used the List of seasons pages for the teams too make the most accurate number JMichael22 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

NFL Playoffs
Also for the NFL playoffs I used this link provided Most Playoff Appearances -- NFL Teams and to make things easier and to make the most accurate number since the link was last updated in January 2012 if you look at the Infobox for an NFL team they have listed the amount of playoff appearances for the the teams which is how I got my information for each team and for any further questions about the NFL or Stanley Cup Playoffs please feel free too message me back at anytime thank you JMichael22 (talk) 14:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
 * See WP:BLOGS. Reliable or official source like the official NFL record and fact book should be used, not a blog hosted on the blogspot.com web site. Different self published sources may use different criteria than what reliable sources or what the NFL and NHL officially say, such as whether to count the Cleveland Browns' time in the All-American Football Conference or the Edmonton Oilers' time in the World Hockey Association. Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Anaheim (train station)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Anaheim (train station), has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Fettlemap (talk) 03:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Infobox tram network
Hi,

I'm curious about this change. px supports a fallback size if none is specified, which was set to, the default image thumbnail size. My understanding was that images shouldn't be manually downsized beyond this without due cause. Is there a particular reason to prefer 200px? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * , whatever was happening on the several articles I was looking at after you made your alternations, the  was not working and all the images were rendering to their normal size (even if was over 1000px) and not a thumbsize. I only picked 200px because that was the default on the infobox before you made that edit. I re-saved your edits on Template:Infobox tram network/sandbox for now, and when I currently test that on Special:ExpandTemplates with the code for Streetcars in New Orleans, for example, it renders the image File:FEMA - 20722 - Photograph by Robert Kaufmann taken on 12-21-2005 in Louisiana.jpg to its full 3300 width. I was not sure what the cause is. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:17, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I have also posted the side-by-side comparison on the testcases page. [ Again, I'm not sure, on your version, what is causing the image to expand to its full size of 3300 px. Thanks.


 * That's... odd. You're right, it doesn't seem to be working. I'll have a look. Thanks! Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed: a silly syntax error (missing a pipe on the second image row). I've re-deployed. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Protection of Russell Hantz
Hey there, I was wondering your thoughts about removing the pending changes protection from the Russell Hantz article. It doesn't get much activity in the first place, and if any IP's come along looking to make some fixes, it wouldn't hurt. If the sock issue pops up again, I'm sure we can re-protect it, but time has passed and it's likely not needed anymore.  G loss  05:35, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Pending changes is specifically intended for infrequently edited articles. There is no evidence (at least that I am aware of) that pending changes "scares" IPs away from making a fix, pending a review. Furthermore my experience with sockpuppets is that about 9 months is not enough time (especially if it is one that may periodically monitor this very talk page...). Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Tennessee Titans colors
The Titans are switching their primary colored jerseys to navy blue beginning with the season, per Paul Kuharsky of ESPN and Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean. I updated the NFL primary, NFL secondary raw and NFL tertiary raw color templates, however, I'm not sure if the NFL staff footer template also needs to be updated, which I believe only an NFL WikiProject administrator can edit. Several Titans' templates, including the main Tennessee Titans and Titans staff templates, still appear with the predominant light blue background, however, the infobox colors on the 2015 Tennessee Titans season article seem to be updated. Though light blue was the Houston/Tennessee Oilers primary color, navy is now the Titans' primary color. DPH1110 (talk) 05:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)DPH1110
 * , Template:NFL staff footer does not need to be updated, as it draws data from the color template. The problem here is that the main team and staff templates do not specify a year on the calls to the color templates, so it automatically defaults to the current year. The current year is still 2014, so it is using the 2014 colors. Now, if you wait a couple of days until the clock strikes midnight, Jan 1 (UTC), it should automatically switch to the 2015 colors. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. As you can tell, I put in A LOT of work in all the teams' season articles, though it can sometimes be both time-consuming and mentally-exhausting. DPH1110 (talk) 06:35, 29 December 2014 (UTC)DPH1110

Happy New Year Zzyzx11!


Happy New Year! Zzyzx11, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica1000 05:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Super Bowl XLIX pending changes
Hey Z. Would you have any objections if I changed this to semiprotection, and kept the existing expiry? I think the page will probably be too busy for pending changes to be effective, especially on the day of the game. Thanks, go Colts. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:44, 18 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I've gone ahead and done this - it was starting to get a little hairy as the AFC Championship Game was winding down. All the best, go Seahawks. (shudder) --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:00, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * , this is actually similar to what happened last year with the Super Bowl XLVIII article -- it was moved from pending changes to semi-protection after the Conference Championship games because the vandalism seemed to increase. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Infobox PAhistoric
I don't think it's appropriate for you to be unilaterally removing all Infobox PAhistoric, while that deletion discussion is still pending. Especially since you've already !voted. Please kindly wait for the discussion to end, rather than trying to enforce your own !opinion by fiat.--GrapedApe (talk) 13:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I honestly did not realize Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 27 was still open. Per WP:TFDAI, if a discussion is more than seven days old it should be removed and closed; if it needs to be re-listed, that takes another seven days -- that should have been 14 days. So this discussion apparently has been open for almost a month. I have not closed TFD discussions in several years, so I'm surprised by the large backlog there. Therefore, I thought I could experiment with adding the PA designations to designation, and experimenting with infobox historic site by only changing two parameters, and checking to make sure all material remained intact (also note that changing an article's infobox from one template to another is a totally different issue e.g. editors using to use geobox instead of infobox settlement). Again, apologies for my oversight. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Message from your friendly TfD recruiter
Hi, I just saw your comments on the TfD of undefined where you indicated you hadn't closed a TfD for years. I'm wondering if I could convince you to start doing it again. For years, a single administrator closed almost all TfD's. Recently, I started doing that as well, and that admin seems to have taken a wikibreak, which leaves me closing almost all TfD's. Having a single administrator almost highhandedly do that is IMO a bad thing for Wikipedia in general, and in addition to that there are some discussions I can't close because I've either commented on them myself, or because I recuse myself from it for other reasons. I could really use a hand there. I would really appreciate it if you could find the time to help out there. Kind regards, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:30, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have to decline, as I feel I am too involved in several issues that frequently pop on TFD that, as you mentioned, I have commented on myself or have to recuse because of a conflict of interest. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Alas! Happy editing! Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 10:59, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Fort Morris Historic Site
You added a link to Pennsylvania in Fort Morris Historic Site, but this is the one in Georgia. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 15:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. My mistake. Next time, if you see such an error like that, you should also revert too instead of waiting for me. Zzyzx11 (talk) 21:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I would have, but I didn't check to see if the other information you added was correct. Thank you.  Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:05, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

RM discussion
In response to your comments at the RM, typically I prefer for closure results to be performed, or requested in this case, by involved editors. My reasons include allowing any necessary discussion of the close (including any objections) before implementation, and reducing the chances of myself becoming involved in the dispute. This has never led to any problems for RfCs I've closed, though this is the first time it has come up for an RM. I suppose that perhaps I could have anticipated this (an editor waits for a month and then the TR is disputed) given the slightly more formal structure in place for moves.

In any case: in my reading of RMNAC, there is no guidance offered on this, e.g. the paragraph you referenced is written as an if-then statement for which the "if" portion isn't met. Likewise, I'm willing to file the close request and do the cleanup, as RMCI says; I just assume that editors will request it as necessary. I've been writing an FAQ for me to link in my closes and have been thinking of including this as a question. There's also, as far as I'm aware, no requirement to use (which I actually have a strong aversion to, since last I checked it prevents readers from following a redirect while it's active).

TBH my reasons don't really apply in this case, so there's no real reason I couldn't have gone ahead and filed the TR anyways - I did notice that after a week or so there had been no changes. That said, my (possibly idiosyncratic?) interpretation would be that as a general rule, if nobody follows up with the close it implies a low enough level of interest in the outcome that editors don't really mind either way. I'm happy to request clarification if you think it's necessary, either now or once the current issue is resolved.  Sunrise    (talk)  09:37, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Help, please
This user Uaat, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Uaat , Vandalism a lot of article for a long time , can you stop this guy ? thank you ViPremierce (talk) 13:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Super Bowl
Sorry about that. I must have put that information somewhere while waiting to figure out where to put it, and then forgotten.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:32, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Pittsburgh meetup

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Tournament Templates
I have seen that you are involved in the Template:12TeamBracket-NFL, you created it as well. I am currently working on Template:10TeamBracket-Bestof3-QFOnly and some other similar bracket templates. I was wondering if you could help me add the date/location above each game. If not, then can you lead me to another user that may know how to. Thanks. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:43, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It was actually based on Template:Round16, with the addition of spaces for the seed numbers. As far as I know, the date/location feature above each match is primarily only used on bracket templates that are specifically designed for football single-elimination tournaments. Are you designing this specifically for a football single-elimination tournament? So far, I only see you using it for Super Eight (hockey) -- ice hockey. Therefore, I'm hesitant to add it since it would be inconsistent with, for example, Template:16TeamBracket-NHL Divisional (used on NHL playoff articles), and especially Template:8TeamBracket Championship (used on the Ice Hockey World Championships articles. The IIHF world championships also has a single-elimination playoff tournament). Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
 * In the NHL bracket it would be impossible to add the date and location with the series moving back and forth from two arenas. The IIHF World Championships could have it but is not needed. Do you think doing something similar to the bracket used in the 2014 NCAA Division I Men's Ice Hockey Tournament. Not the subgroups but the headings including the dates. Thanks –Aidan721 (talk) 12:30, 3 March 2015 (UTC)


 * So you actually want something similar to Template:16TeamBracket. That was originally primarily designed for the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament articles, where each one represents a regional of 16 teams. Using only the parameters for the round headings, groups and subgroups:

... generates:

Somehow, it evolved into the current usage of what can be seen in 2014 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament, and then was copied into the other NCAA articles. I'm still not exactly clear what you actually would like to see on Template:10TeamBracket-Bestof3-QFOnly, since I'm not familiar with that kind of system. If you just want to add dates to the round headings, you should stick to what you just did here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 08:08, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

2014 Stanley Cup playoffs
diehardsport.com is nothing more than an entertainment sports blog by the admission of the website's own creator. The author of the article that was recently added to this article is just the creators college buddy. Deadman137 (talk) 20:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Noted. Please add any further comments to the ongoing discussion on that user's talk page. Zzyzx11 (talk) 10:28, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Discussion regarding NFL schedule tables
Hello. There is a discussion on WT:NFL as to whether or not to remove the kickoff times and networks from NFL teams' schedule tables after the end of a season, and I was wondering if you would like to participate in the discussion. Per WP:NOTTVGUIDE, I think it is only useful to keep the networks and times on a schedule table during and before a season, and after the 2015 NFL schedule is released next month (April). I started removing the networks and times from the schedule tables on all NFL teams' 2014 season articles, however, I had one edit (the 2014 Carolina Panthers season) reverted by a user who strongly opposes this idea. I might continue the process on further past seasons, but it is time consuming, and I fear that it might be a waste of time if edit warring occurs. If you would be willing to add your input, it would be appreciated. Thank you. DPH1110 (talk) 18:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)DPH1110

I moved Georgia Gulf to Axiall for a reason (specified in the edit)
Namely, that the corporation is no longer the Georgia Gulf Corporation, it's the Axiall Corporation, and has been for a few years. I'm undoing your undo. DemocraticLuntz (talk) 18:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I have explained
Thank you for your comments but don't be so harsh on me.

I have a genuine and good idea, far more analytical than others.

It was heavily reported that the NBC show's name changed. But since people don't like it, particularly fans, I've made it low keyed by not having it so close to the top and adding a bunch of references.

Besides I don't edit it more than once a day, often less than once a day. That is the opposite of being aggressive. Wowee Zowee public (talk) 15:40, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

NBC
What you are telling me is that "some administrators violate Wikipedia rules and impose a 1RR rule". This is lawlessness and should stop.

With the NBC article, I am not edit warring at all. I don't keep doing the same thing. I think of better ways to edit, even though it may be a similar idea. For example, I first did the edit on the info box but later thought some people may be mad at that.

Also look at the people who are mad. Most of them fail to use the talk page or explain or try (unlike me) to compromise. It is they who should be punished, even if it is 2 people taking turns to do the same thing.

Lastly, I don't edit only once a day. However, I think things through carefully so I might change an article infrequently even though I might look at it many times.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Wowee Zowee public (talk) 14:52, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I found a citation from CNN stating that the title of the show has been officially changed. Really! Mentioned it on the talk page. Wowee Zowee public (talk) 15:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Raam Barros
Hi, is this a recreation of the page you deleted per WP:EVASION from a blocked user? Thanks. Logical Cowboy (talk) 14:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Except for a few minor edits, yes, it looks like an exact duplicate of the page that was deleted -- including the embedded links and the citations with an accessdate of "5 December 2014". Zzyzx11 (talk) 12:16, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Pro Bowl Articles
I don't know if you are speaking on this subject regarding Aaron Hernandez being a pro bowler or not in 2011 but NFL players that are alternates on super bowl team is ineligible meaning was never offered an invitation to replace the player originally selected because of the preparation for the Super Bowl. Pmaster12 (talk) 01:17, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Apologies, after check the page history, apparently Hernandez was added to the list in March 2012, after the game, which appears to be unsourced. When it was added, his name was marked with two footnotes, one saying that he was named as a replacement due to injury or vacancy, and then the other for the Pats advancing to the Super Bowl. This notation usually happens when a starter pulls out of the Pro Bowl before the Conference Championship games, the replacement is then swiftly announced, but then he ends up having to pull out too after his club advances to the Super Bowl. But this apparently did not occur since the original starter, Rob Gronkowski, did not pull out until after NE won the AFC title game, which simultaneously made Hernandez ineligible. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:53, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

You are good I was just letting know why I took Aaron Hernandez out because there's a source that deemed him ineligible for the Pro Bowl due to the New England Patriots advancing to Super Bowl XLVI. Pmaster12 (talk) 06:14, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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Followup discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football
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Resurrection of Southern California Task Force
After moving from Los Angeles County to Kern County to San Luis Obispo County, I am finally realizing that there is life in California outside of L.A. and San Francisco, where I lived and grew up. Oh, I have also lived in San Diego, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Yolo and Sacramento counties, and I earned my undergraduate degree in Riverside County. I am trying to breathe life into the Southern California Task Force, and I hope you will join me. Could you visit our list of participants at the other end of this link and update your description of what you are interested in doing for us, assuming that you still want to be in the mix, that is.

In recompense, I will buy you a drink during the Wikipedia Week I am planning for Morro Bay on the Central Coast in July. Yours sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Super Bowl
Template:Infobox Super Bowl has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Alakzi (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Bullets
Can you please undo all your ndash → bullet replacements? They are not proper lists as generated by the TFArecentlist and TFLrecentlist templates. It also creates an inconsistent archive page ro May. The talk page mentions when the bullets would be visible. 10:51, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I've undone them myself. If you really want bullets, do them properly (example), and do all of may.  11:53, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry I originally did not notice your modifications. I also felt that consistency on the Main Page, as the most viewed Wikipedia page, should have had priority over the two May archive pages. But I do see you did all of May anyway. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:37, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Regarding Super Bowl LIII
I believe we should recreate the page Super Bowl LIII now. The NFL is currently voting on who the host city will be; this result will be announced by the end of the month. DoctorGiants (talk) 21:38, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Done, although this and this says the voting will be NEXT May in 2016, not this year. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:03, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
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2015 Wimbledon Championships
Yes, but in the current sport template one of the examples is a current tennis tournament. It would seem that the entire purpose of this template is to tell potential editors that they should be aware that there may be many conflicting edits happening at the same time. "As an advisory to editors, it may also be used in those occasions that many editors (perhaps a hundred or more) edit an article on the same day." this tournament is also in the list of current sporting events.
 * , I'm still permitted to remove it when there is no longer significant activity during periods of such conflicting edits, like off days or the wee hours of the morning. The 2015 Major League Baseball season page rarely gets edited, as most of the activity is only on the daily standings templates, and that only gets updated during certain few hours of the day. Only TWO editors modified that page between the time you added it earlier today and when I took it down a few minutes ago. Otherwise, it does nothing other than be a mere 24/7 general disclaimer notice, constantly on 24/7 for several months, without any good informational consequence. See also No disclaimers in articles. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * A less obtrusive method is to merely add the article to Category:Current sports events without the current event tag. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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User:Rschen7754/How I write good road articles
So you know, I've started the above page to explain how I'm cleaning up and rewriting the California road articles. (It is under construction, and I tend to skip around when writing how-to guides like this, so if you're going to make changes to a whole bunch of articles you might want to do it in batches, or do one at a time - or it could get really annoying really quickly).

I'm also hoping to get User:PhATxPnOY916 and User:WikiLeon on board too as the other (at least semi-) active California road editors. I was originally planning on doing the rewrites all by myself, but I realized that if I do that, I might not finish before 2025, and the finished product would probably be better with multiple people helping out. So if you're willing, any help would be appreciated --Rschen7754 05:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Good to know. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll try and get the first part of that up in a few minutes. By the way, on your edit to CA-7 I do believe that the material added has to be cited, especially since it is a Good Article. I do think that the California legislative changes would probably be enough to cite the bulk of it, though. --Rschen7754 04:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I only made that modification because the IP who originally added that was only partially correct, and did not account for the previous incarnation of CA 7 that went up to the Oregon border. I myself would rather prefer to remove that content altogether: the hatnote at the top of the article is sufficient, and this extra content with  gets a little redundant. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:27, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay (I've been away for a week and just came back), yeah I'd agree with removing it too. --Rschen7754 04:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I would be willing to continue helping out with the California road articles as much as I can, although most of my edits are usually confined to the Exit List/Major Intersections (or Junctions) list. Rewriting an entire article though might be beyond my expertise, as the only major rewrite I ever did was the California State Route 165 article, and that's just a very small, standard article. I will, however, continue helping out with edits for punctuation, grammar, adding new information, and other corrections that may come along the way. –  PhATxPnOY916   (talk to me)  01:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it's not necessarily about how much you know, it's about summarizing what the sources say. Anyway, glad to hear you're still around. I guess I'm going through some life changes and I'm not sure how active I'll be going forward, so I thought now would be a good time to pass on what I know, just in case. (Also, I'll try and get another round up on the guide tonight). --Rschen7754 04:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

DyingScene.com
Good day sir - I'm writing to you today because someone at wikipedia is practicing favoritism regarding the extension DyingScene.com. I am unable to use this extension as a valid citation source due to the fact it was blacklisted over 7 years ago. How can DS not be considered a valid news source when sites like punknews.org and absolutepunk.net are? They do more interviews, album reviews, exclusive premieres and publish more original content then either of those sites. This week, an admin deleted a page I created because wiki will not accept DS as a valid source. Please instruct on what avenues we must pursue to get justice in this matter, thank you. Robzwop (talk) 15:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure others have responded to you, and pointed out the archived discussion explaining that there was a time when numerous IPs and accounts spammed your site onto Wikipedia, and how that led to it being put on the blacklist. My take is this: you have admitted that you have a conflict of interest (see Conflict of interest). And of course, it is obviously in your best interest to have links on Wikipedia back to your site, since that has the potential to increase your web traffic, and thus have the opportunity to charge your advertisers more money or raise your website's profile and reputation. Editors and contributors who have a conflict of interest (financial or otherwise) undermine the public's confidence in Wikipedia as an independent resource, no matter what degree they are trying to add or remove from various Wikipedia articles. Thus, it would be better if a third party, not associated in any way with you or the the DyingScene.com website, to advocate for its removal off the blacklist. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:34, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

2015 Canadian Wildfires
Hi Zzyzx11,

Thanks for your revert of the template to,  but , looking at the two versions side by side I think the IP editor does have a point. The 'disaster' version says "Although this article is updated frequently, " which is not happening. And 'Current' seems to be more for when a page is under intense editing, at least one experienced editor frequently removes them saying that. 220  of  Borg 02:00, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm not sure how the wording on became so different than . The original point of having a separate  was so it would also have a link to Risk disclaimer, as readers in the path of such disasters may look at these articles to help them take safety precautions. I would probably like to remove the "this article is updated frequently" phrase, as that can be generally said about a large number of Wikipedia articles that do not need . On the other hand, I did recently propose adding "it may not reflect the most current information" to . And as for the "one experienced editor frequently removes them": if you referring to the person that comes to my mind, he sometimes checks  and the rest of the current templates too. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:17, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

re: this
You're right, however, I think the summary table would be fine as it illustrates the 2-3-2 format the series will follow and the tentative scheduled dates the series will take place.  True CRaysball  | #RaysUp 06:57, 15 July 2015 (UTC)