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Template:Mississippi-tv-station-stub
Could you go back and fix the cats? Right now it's putting it in Radio station cats. Thanks. --  ALLSTAR    ECHO  06:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT
I don't know if this has been asked before, but is there a bot that implements DEFAULTSORT? Damanmundine1 (Talk) 10:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Peak oil - Resource Nationalism
I need your input in the NPOV discussion, so we can close it out.Kgrr 15:06, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

"China"-sports-venues-stub
I proposed and now want to create a template and stub for sports venues in China. Both you and User:Grutness were involved in a discussion as to the name of the template/category. I have asked User:Pegship her views as the person who closed the discussion but she put me on to the two of you. I would like to create the template and category and so are asking both of you what name to use. Waacstats 10:54, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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What are the rules for semi-protecting pages?
Hi Alai. What are the rules for semo-protecting pages? I'm a bit tired of having to remove the same vandalism to Youth of the Danish People's Party everyday. (Its mother party is deeply controversial, but somebody seems to mistake this project for a soapbox, especially since Denmark is currently in the middle of an election). Best. Valentinian T / C 14:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Roger. I won't guarantee that I'll be around to spot this everytime it happens. I still don't understand why anon editing is permitted on this project at all, given the vandalism/good edits ratio from IPs. Valentinian T / C 14:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't either. This project has a lot of problems and very few answers. Vandals, trolls, anons etc. jump to mind, not to mention the work climate. Valentinian T / C 15:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Please visit WP:IPNA talk
Please see the WP:IPNA talk on a possible merge of stub tags. Thanks. CJLippert 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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Re: uncat albums/EPs by year, WPSS-cat
Yeah, I guess I'm saying it's been wrong, at least in the majority of cases where it was used on non-talk pages. Talk page templates go on talk pages only, right? --PEJL 22:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * BTW, I copied the code from notice, which uses the same logic to display different colors on talk pages and non-talk pages. In this case we should probably change it to unconditionally use the non-talk colors if this isn't to be used on talk pages. --PEJL 22:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * There doesn't currently appear to be any standard color scheme for category pages. I'd argue that using talk page colors is a bad choice, as it makes editors think it's a talk page template even if it isn't. --PEJL 22:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Album articles with maintenance tags
Just a request that the next time you update User:Alai/wonkyalbumall could you include Template:Context? Thanks for all you do.--Fisherjs 22:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Cat stubs rename
Do you know of any good bot to do over 100 null edits? The pages from Category:Cat stubs still haven't been moved to Category:Feline stubs. Od Mishehu 08:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes. Unfortunately, a combination of versionitis and firewalls means I can't do this right now:  I'll take care of it later.  Alai 15:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks!
Howdy Alai, thanks for participating in my request for adminship. I am happy to say it was successful, 55/0/0, and I am looking forward to getting to work. Thanks for your vote of confidence. By all means, feel free to check in on my work to come. Suggestions and advice are always appreciated.

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thanks
for linking me here. I sometimes forget to sign, and in this case I was thrown off by his "no answers." Jd2718 (talk) 16:34, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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Category:StarCraft Stubs
As per discussion there, I moved this from speedy renaming to Stub types for deletion/Log/2007/November/22. Since you had input in the first, I'm notifying you of the second :) SkierRMH (talk) 20:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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Classification of admins
Hi Alai. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee    t / c  22:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

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Re: (User talk:ais523) User:ais523/stubtagtab.js
I have actually given some thought to programming this with a menu of options; you're not the only person to request this feature. I'm somewhat busy in Real Life, though (maybe I should put busy on my talkpage!), so it's unlikely to be implemented in the immediate future unless someone else does it; maybe I'll have a look at it in a week or two weeks, when I ought to have more time (hopefully). --ais523 08:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at this as User:ais523/stubtagtab2.js. --ais523 17:54, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Please help me
Anietor continues to importune me leaving tags of edit-war in my talk, while I'm doing the same thing as him. He continues to rollback his POV and sinophobic version of Christianity in China. --Xi Zhu (talk) 22:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, I welcome any objective third parties to come on over and take a look. There are a few of us that are trying to reach a consensus on some issues there, but XiZhu just keeps steamrolling his block edits without engaging in the discussion.  Thanks!  --Anietor (talk) 23:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: your comment at WP talk:WSS...
G'day Alai... If there's something that requires a "touch" or a "template replace" bot as a result of an SFD, please let me know - have a look at my additions to WP:SFD a couple of days ago. They could all do with orphaning, if you get the chance to. Grutness...wha?  01:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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Help
User:Brian0324 and Anietor continue to rollback a new paragraph I added in the article Christianity in China, and by contrast they rollback their POV. I've tagged them in their talk page, but please help me! --Xi Zhu (talk) 19:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Sigh...there are actually at least 3 editors trying to get Xi Zhu to discuss his edits, but he just inserts them, usually as POV unsourced material. He then keeps vandalizing our user talk pages.  He's going to get blocked if he keeps doing that, and all we want to do is engage him in a discussion.  If you can get him to calm down and discuss, that would be appreciated!  Thanks.  --Anietor (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Splitting Burmese geo stubs
Hi aren't you the guy who does the stub sorting? If so we need to sort Category:Burma geography stubs asap into the relevant states. I am aiming to add the villages in the coming months. Could you take care of it for me asap? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦     Talk? 20:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Burma is divided into 7 states and 7 divisions although they are all basically states at the same level of administration I think: Split by Chin State, Kachin State, Kayah State, Kayin State, Mon State, Rakhine State, Shan State, Ayeyarwady Division, Bago Division, Magway Division, Mandalay Division, Sagaing Division, Tanintharyi Division, Yangon Division.

OK? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦     Talk? 20:30, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:1910s-song-stub
Template:1910s-song-stub has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. -- ALLSTAR  echo 09:23, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Question on template name
Firstly Happy Christmas. The main point: You recently proposed a stub for UK ships of the line, I was about to create it but was a bit stumped on what the template name should be UK-mil-shipoftheline-stub seems a bit awkward. Waacstats (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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I'm back
I'm back from my extended wikibreak (though I'm not going to be as active as I was before) so I've started brining BJBot's various functions back online. Since fair use images in non-mainspace seems to still be an issue I've reopened the RfA if you have any comments. BJ Talk 11:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Mexico-radio-station-stub
Could Alaibot move some articles into this new stub type? Specifically, For all articles in that have their article name ending in "-FM" replace Mexico-bcast-stub with Mexico-radio-station-stub? I'm checking those without a suffix by hand since they might not be radio-stations, but if a bot could do those, it'll save me some work. 22:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Betacommand: Part Deux
Betacommand acted a bit hastily with respect to my suggestion of how to accommodate his desire to have the expanding it link in stub templates be something he could ignore while engaged in his quest to rid Wikipedia of internal external links. Just thought you ought to be aware of it as an admin associated with this project. My kludge does work (for now), but if the dev's ever use the fake URL parameter "stub" as real URL parameter, it'll cause some havoc. Shouldn't cause any immediate problems. Caerwine Caer’s whines 00:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Categorizing Consultation
I'm working on a split of Category:Communes and villages in Romania because someone made a lot of stubs. I based some edits on previously created categories for communes, but I am not so sure that make sense now that I've looked at it more deeply. There seems to be little to no distinction between communes and villages in the articles. At present, there are categories for communes, for communes and villages (grouped together) and for "localities" for each county. Can you take a look at it and tell me what you think? Whatever is best, it should be done in a uniform way. I tried to consult with WikiProject: Romania's members, but so far I haven't heard back from them so I decided to consult you and Grutness. Aelfthrytha (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Tech help
Hiya, and happy new year. :) I'm working on a new proposal to help deal with disruptive editors on Wikipedia, via a technical solution, and I could use some assistance from someone who could write a bot or javascript utility... Do you think you might have time to help?  If not, I understand, but I remember what a great job that you did with the categorization stuff, and I'd love to work with you again!  Best, Elonka 16:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This is what I'm working on: User:Elonka/WikiDots proposal. For implementation, I'm thinking that it should start with a bot-maintained page that would compile a list of all active editors (defining active as 100+ edits/month), and filter out those who meet certain requirements, starting with two:  recent unreversed blocks, and/or being listed on Editing restrictions.  The total "active editor" list is probably going to be about 10,000 editors, though the two-criteria list will probably filter to something much smaller (100-500). How hard do you think that would be to create such a list? -Elonka 21:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Gah
Another issue: WikiProject Saudi Arabia has a template used on talk pages that puts all the articles into stub categories (sometimes twice - once for talk and once for the article). I think it's template Expand Saudi Arabia but I can't find it to check up on it, and some articles that don't have that template on their talk page do that. I've contacted the wikiproject and am waiting for their reply. Could you take a look in the meantime? Category:Saudi Arabia stubs is a good place to start investigating if you care to. Aelfthrytha (talk) 07:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Burma-geo-stub
Trust me -in a few months there will be several thousand articles and you'll be making a lot of stub sorting work for yourself. I don;t care whether this is 55 or 60 articles for each state it needs setting up. The country covers nearly 680,000 km ². Luckily I have nearly sort the categories by state so it should be made much easier for you ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦     Talk? 18:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah well I couldn't give a jonathan ross what you think either. But yes best to split when one of the states reaches 60 or so I thought there would be more by state than there are at present. Its managable as it is -believe it or not I was actually trying to save you have to stub sort in the future but you seem to enjoy this anyway. ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">Talk? 15:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Its just seems as there are 342 geo stubs at present I thought you'd want to think about splitting. Whats a good figure for you 600, 800? <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">Talk? 15:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you. Sorry if I appeared aggressive its just we will be generating a lot of geo articles for Burma over the next few weeks. However initally it is the main towns and districts by state so there probably won't be over 60 for each one for some time (even though some states have as many as 10,000 villages). I was more concerned that the main burma-geo-stub category would get too large <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">Talk? 16:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Category:Cities, towns and villages in the Mandalay Division has 42 at present -I'll be adding a few places tomorrow so it should be around 60 by tomorrow night. The others may take a few weeks to reach 60 particularly the smaller states but just so you know. Anyway take care of yourself mate. I can almost catch that cold online!! All the best <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">♦ Sir Blofeld ♦      <font size="-4"><font color="Black">Talk? 21:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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Bot help
Hi. You were recommended as a possible resource to create a bot for a mundane task I have in mind. For example, Mission San Juan Capistrano (Texas) is in Category:National Historic Landmarks in Texas and also Category:Registered Historic Places in Texas. The latter is redundant and should be deleted since the former is a subcategory of Category:Registered Historic Places in Texas. So, when a reader goes to Category:Registered Historic Places in Texas he'll see Category:National Historic Landmarks in Texas at the top, and then all of the "non-landmark" sites listed below. There needn't be any individual landmark sites in the list. Can you use a bot to do that (for all the states)? (I've done it manually for a few of the states, so you may find some that don't need any done.) Thanks.--Appraiser (talk) 20:48, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. For any article that contains both Category:Registered Historic Places in Alabama and Category:National Historic Landmarks in Alabama, the former should be deleted. And the same rule would apply for all 50 states. Thanks for your help.--Appraiser (talk) 22:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a little bit at User_talk:Ebyabe.--Appraiser (talk) 00:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

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Burma-stubs again
Hi there's now around 600 Burma geo stubs. I just wondered if there was a figure that you thought was appropriate for splitting as you said Tibet was oversized around this mark. <font style="color:#fef;background:black;">♦ Sir Blofeld ♦     <font size="-4"><font color="Black">Talk? 17:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Category:American television actor stubs
Could you have Alaibot sort through this stub category searching for birth year categories to place them into per decade templates (1900s thru 2000s) This category is oversized at 7 pages and a fairly random sample of about 30 of them I just tried to sort indicates that about 3/4 of them could be sorted into the per decade templates  (Note, the 1900s, 1910s, and 2000s templates sort into the main category as well right now, so if you can get the list of what to sort by using What links here, it might work smoother.) Caerwine <small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines  23:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, done. You might want to coordinate with Leofric1, who I notice is (repeatedly) editing a lot of these stubs too, and one might wonder whether in the most efficient of all possible ways.  Alai (talk) 20:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm just trying to sort them, in part because of the proposal of child-actor-stub. The bot wasn't as helpful as I hoped, but that's because of pages that use per category sortkeys instead of DEFAULTSORT.  Since DEFAULTSORT addition needs to be dealt with by hand, that's not really a problem. Caerwine <small style="font-family:sans-serif;color:darkred">Caer’s whines  04:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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