User talk:Bencherlite/Archive 14

Welsh Counties in Heritage Railways.
May I just point out, that by introducing all these counties, the railways are disappearing of the Map of wales (i.e. the toolserver map generated from Cat:HR in Wales).

You may find that many users know that a railway is in Wales, but not in say Gwynedd, or Denbighshire. It is surprising that until this morning, only the Gwynedd sub cat existed in the whole UK.. Do we really need or want these subcats?? Has it been discussed anywhere? --Keith 13:55, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

No. not just the map loss. Many people will know the country the railway is in, but not the specific county. As said, the HRiG existed (created by an American I understand) who promptly went on to split varius Gwynedd items from Wales! Why??? I dont doubt that Gwynedd is a part of Wales (but do others?), but splitting everything by county could be just a bit of bureacracy gone wild. I trust you will be continuing and doing similar for the rest of the UK. I am sure there will be others who will express concern. I have no intention of having an edit war on this particular matter --Keith 14:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Following on from the above: there are two edits which I'm puzzled by. was essentially replacing two parent cats by a sub-cat which is common to both, but I guess this is a change which falls foul of the first comment in this section.  is more of a mystery: this has left the article without any "Heritage railways ..." category, nor any cat which is directly related to either Wales or Ceredigion, other than the somewhat broad . -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:15, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, I've undone edit 2 and reinstated the VofR in the Ceredigion heritage railways cat per WP:EPON, which someone pointed me to in connection with another Welsh railway. However, if I understand EPON correctly (and I may not) this doesn't affect the general parent/child category rule i.e. the "transport in Ceredigion" cat can stay off the article since that's a parent category of the "heritage railways in Ceredigion" sub-category.  Thanks for pointing this one out. BencherliteTalk 16:06, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Glamorgan buildings
Noticed some of your category tidying through my watchlist and didn't want to step on your toes, so thought I'd check first. Are you, like me, of the view that Category:Buildings and structures in Glamorgan and its subcategories should be deprecated in favour of categorisation by existing Welsh counties? Category:Buildings and structures in Wales by county, after all, does not seem to be based on historic / ceremonial counties, hence the use of Bridgend / Conwy county boroughs etc rather than their historic predecessors. Glamorgan, and the nearly-unused Gwent, are the two odd ones out here, I think. BencherliteTalk 13:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your mesage, I hope that this finds you well! We seem to have a bit of an issue in Wales between the old counties at two levels (ie: Glamorgan and Gwent), and the new counties. Everything seems to need to be catagorised at three levels in places, which just makes things confusing. I think most of the middle stuff (like Gwent), has been removed, and the old stuff could be worth keeping as most of the historical sections relate to those old counties. But does it need to include buildings and other stuff (ie: the M4?), that clearly were not built in the middle ages? I think its a debate worth taking to the WikiProject Wales TalkPage. In the mean time, I pushed some articles down into the new counties from Category:Sport in Glamorgan - personally, a good example of where the old county was hindering development of the new counties categories. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 07:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

MfD closes
User:Doug/closemfd.js doesn't seem to be working. The pages nominated for MfD have not been deleted after your closes. Cunard (talk) 09:46, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I thought User:Doug/closemfd.js functioned like the AfD scripts. My apologies for bothering you in the middle of your closes. Cunard (talk) 09:59, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

mfd note
Hi Bencherlite, I noticed you deleted this Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:DavidJJJ/All_About_Me user page in the MFD, did you notice the comment from user Green giant that mentions two other userpages that might as well go at the same time. I'll leave it to your judgment but it seems uncontroversial to get rid of them also at this time, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 10:43, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

UKSC cases
I'm probably going to close the 'task force' page since I don't anticipate any more interest and we don't really need it if its just the two of us. Hopefully we (and anyone else interested) can get decent articles up at a faster rate than the SC hands down judgments, but i don't think a project-type page is needed.

Damn good work on the Jones v Kaney page, I feel that it proves something of a point that we can have an article of that quality up within a week of a judgment being given, and I hope you get the chance to do some more work in the area. I'll certainly get back on task once my exams are finished, but I have managed to make a couple of decent articles and have another one as a draft.

Regards, Bob House 884 (talk) 13:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Deadendmarker
Code tweaked as requested. Jamietw (talk) 16:22, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a pilot study
I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to a short survey. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates only '''5 minutes’’’. cooldenny (talk) 17:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Jones v Kaney
The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Notice my contributions
Iif wikipedia dosent notice my good contubutions i will turn to vandalism reading mad —Preceding undated comment added 16:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC).

Nomination for deletion of Template:100 Numbered subpages
Template:100 Numbered subpages has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:10, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Bampton Lectures (Columbia University)
Take a look at Bampton Lectures (Columbia University), which I have improved a bit, and left sources for more to be done on the talk page. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:19, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

re: Barnstar
Thank you very much! :) Tim! (talk) 06:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

TFL editnotice
Would it be possible to remove the "including spaces" part of the edit you just made? I agree with the one-paragraph aspect, but debate over spaces is unnecessary given TFL's ability to be relatively flexible on length. Regards, —WFC— 17:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Sorry if it seemed a little hawk-like to pick that out. But as a semi-regular at DYK, I'm wary of where a few extra words here and there can lead to! —WFC— 17:21, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this list know that it will be appearing as the main page featured list on June 27, 2011. You can view the TFL blurb at Today's featured list/June 27, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article directors, or , or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞  Tb hotch  ™  &  (ↄ),  Problems with my English?  02:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

 

Bodley's Librarian is the head of the Bodleian Library, the main library at the University of Oxford in England. Both are named after the founder, Sir Thomas Bodley (pictured). Although Oxford had had a university library since about 1320, it had declined by the end of the 16th century, so Bodley offered in 1598 to restore it. The first Librarian, Thomas James, was selected in 1599, and the Bodleian opened in 1602. Bodley wanted the Librarian to be diligent, a linguist, unmarried and not a parish priest, although James persuaded him to dispense with the last two requirements. In all, 24 people have served as Bodley's Librarian, some less well than others, with John Price (who held the post from 1768 to 1813) accused of "a regular and constant neglect of his duty". The current Librarian, Sarah Thomas, was appointed in 2007; she is the first woman, and the first foreign librarian, to run the Bodleian. She said that when she saw the job description, "it was love at first sight".


 * Congratulations. You're in right at the start of a new WP development.  Hope it goes well on the day. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:17, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've added a few comments on the talk page that you may be delighted to see. Just suggestions mainly, in advance of Monday's exposure! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

your revert
Thanks for letting me know on my talk page about your reversion to an inferior version—the only polite course of action. I might not have watchlisted the page. Now what is the point of reinstating the faulty overlong version, even at that page? Tony  (talk)  09:28, 17 June 2011 (UTC) But on second though, my sarcasm was inappropriate: you did link me to the right place in the edit-summary—thanks. Tony  (talk)  10:25, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks so much for the great ideas at Portal peer review/Supreme Court of the United States/archive1! :) -- Cirt (talk) 02:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Houston
Thank you for your help!

I am using WikiProject_Houston/Portal_development as the basis for many of the additions - I think there are enough arts and culture articles to sustain the section. I'll find out once I go through the list.

As for quotes, do you recommend giving that the same randomization treatment?

Thank you WhisperToMe (talk) 19:42, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Reply re portal closing
Hey Bencherlite, mind if I close it(them), and then you do the other steps after you've noticed I've done that? That'll speed things up a bit, and you can still be a great help! :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 05:03, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I did the first two steps. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 07:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! I had to deal with socks of a banned user disrupting my FAC nom. :( &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I did the first two steps for Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:United States (removed, as not promoted at this time). Care to do the remaining for that one, as well? &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, I saw that, I was about to leave a similar message at their talk page, but you beat me to it. :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Bench, thanks for note; it's out of the time window, which always closes end Saturday UTC. But I need to be reminded of any changes there. Next edition I'll put it in. Tony   (talk)  08:48, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

You can feel free to do the congrats, the honor's all yours. ;) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 08:51, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

TFL tomorrow
Enjoy it! You'll certainly enjoy the vandalism, for sure! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Much as I love kittens, I couldn't manage a whole one. Tab bay-boi-behaviour will be curtailed though, just this once.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, 5K hits was better than the 20-odd it had the day before! It will be really interesting to plot subject matter against views actually, so thanks for volunteering to provide the dullest material available...!  Only joking, now get on and write a nice shiny new list with something exciting in it!  The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 * All the best with Bencherlite Jr the second, I can imagine everything will take a backseat for a while!  I think stats will be useful, as interesting as Wikipedians by number of edits or any such other editcount-itis-style list!  Let me know if there's anything you want me to keep an eye on while you disappear to the land of no-sleep...  The Rambling Man (talk) 16:21, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Wales
Hello there.

Thanks for your message; the purpose of the template is down to the fact that there's no bottom template for the formentioned abolished districts in Wales; I created the template to put the problem right and the reason I called it "Districts of Wales" was simply due to a mistake I made because I'm new to the whole Wikipedia thing. Sorry if it caused some confusion to you and if there's anything I did wrong I shall put it right.

Thanks.

JAU123 JAU123 (talk) 21:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah I made a slight error on the Anglesey page because some of the former districts were continued post 1996 so there isn't a page for the districts plus the name can be quite confusing at times. I don't live in Wales but my family are from the Torfaen area and I feel it's right that the template was to be made. Many thanks for your help with everything and thankyou for the welcoming; I can't really see myself using this all the time but I use it to make corrections mainly. JAU123 21:10, 21 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAU123 (talk • contribs)

Ameer Dost Mohammad
Thanks Bencherlite Karim jan (talk) 22:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Talk:Guitar Hero high score
Thanks for closing that out. I knew it met CSD:G3, but I wasn't sure how to set up a CSD nom on a Talk page that had no associated article content. Every time I think I have things figured out, something new crops up. --Alan the Roving Ambassador (talk) 00:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on June 27, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/June 27, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article directors or his delegate, or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞  Tb hotch  ™  &  (ↄ), My comment was grammatically incorrect? Correct it! → Click here for terms and conditions 05:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

 

The main buildings of Jesus College, one of the colleges of the University of Oxford, are located in the centre of Oxford, England. Jesus College was founded by Elizabeth I, upon the petition of a Welsh clergyman, Hugh Price. Her foundation charter of 27 June 1571 gave the college the land and buildings of White Hall, a defunct academic hall, to which new buildings were added. The first quadrangle, which includes the principal's lodgings and chapel, was completed between 1621 and 1630; it has been described as "small and pretty" and possessing "a curious charm". The chapel was extensively altered in 1864; one historian of the college described the work as "ill-considered". Construction of the second quadrangle began in the 1630s and was completed in about 1712. Further buildings were erected in a third quadrangle during the 20th century, including science laboratories, a new library, and additional accommodation. The Fellows' Library, restored in 2007, contains 11,000 antiquarian books. A project to build new student and teaching rooms opposite the college was completed in 2010. Eleven parts of the college are listed buildings. (more...)

TFA 27 June
Yeah, good work: less of a swerve there and back. I'd have taken it out, since the "ill-considered" quote seems a bit more suitable for a DYK hook than as part of a smooth intro to a featured article; its tone is different from that of the rest of the blurb, and to me there's no harm in shortening the TFA blurbs a little, where the opportunity arises (leave them wanting more and they'll visit). Elizabeth I started to get too far away from the point for me, and is linked to in the FA; and frankly, so is Oxford, which is well-known, linked prominently in just about all of the other target-articles, and even present in those target article names. But reinstate Her Majesty if you think readers might want to divert there before visiting the FA.

"A project to build new student and teaching rooms opposite the college was completed in 2010." I thought this was a bit dull to finish on, and in retrospect might remove it. So unhistorical, and complementing the "20th c." additions didn't see necessary in the blurb. Up to you.

Can you have a look at the "allegation" issue I raised in a subsequent TFA? Tony  (talk)  14:22, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh I see: you're one of the main editors of the article. I didn't notice the thread above. Tony   (talk)  14:23, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This is the one I was referring to; you'll see my query in edit-mode. I guess Raul will deal with it. Tony   (talk)  14:51, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

You pwn the main page
What, one week it's TFL, the next it's TFA? When will it stop?! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You're a good chap letting on that dark blue would have owned the encyclopedia. I might let you off all the unpleasantness after all.... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:57, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Let me just add my own congratulations! (And I shall take some small pride in having two photographs in TFA!). Jonathan A Jones (talk) 17:46, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Hep C list
Agreed, I found issues with the blurb as a minimum. I feel a little bit like an idiot because I moved it into the queue to schedule it for Hep C day (28 July) but it hasn't really undergone mega-scrutiny. I've asked WFC to be part of the review brigade, obviously I'll be there (like a bad smell) and hopefully User:Figureskatingfan will too. Much appreciate your input... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:08, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And no more div's.  What's the point of those anyway?  Looks a little naughty me, like HTML or something.  Naughty, naughty, naughty. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:10, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Break-Into-Music2000‎
Thanks for cleaning up that mess User:Break-Into-Music2000‎ made. I noticed an edit that suggests there may be other socks around. Thought I should let you know in case you want to be on the lookout for any more. Monty 845  23:49, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for creating the shortcut, P:SCOTUS, quite thoughtful. ;) Cheers, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 19:50, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:London Transport
I promoted the portal, and did the first 2 promotion steps. Care to do the rest of the honors? :) &mdash; Cirt (talk) 01:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:London Transport
 * Hi, the nom doesn't say it's promoted. Could you be precise about the timing? midnight end Sat UTC is the cut-off. Tony   (talk)  12:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

About: Signature
Hi Bencherlite! I have changed my signature, now it consists of 217 characters. Regards, Guitarist(talk 16:12, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Defaultsorts
Thanks for restoring the defaultsorts. I'm not sure (and never have been) what Vegaswikian is up to. Belovedfreak seems to agree here. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * More trouble here. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Who finished their magnum opus?
I did. And it only took me...just under two years. Enjoy :p. Ironholds (talk) 14:35, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Removing CAT at the age of 27
Hi, on the project-page regardng nominations for deletion the part regarding the category "dead at the age of 27" is blocked and we are asked not to edit the discusison. Nevertheless I added some text to that with question and remakrs as I really wouldn't know where to place it as the category was deleted and with that also the talk-page for it,

As you were the one who seems to have deleted the category I repeat my qyestions and remarks I added to above project page as you might be able to answer it or at least would know where I can put my questions and remarks: I really fear that a speedy deletion like this invites people to start a similar catagory *eg: members of the 27 club" and start the discussion from scratch. Problem is that by placing it here I only reach people who follow your talk-page and not the people who were following the project-page and/or the deleted category page +talk of that:

Why was it so urgent to delete this category: many people were still reacting, related articles like Club 27 are under discussion and imho there was still a possibility that consensus might be possible to RENAME this category to a name that wouldn't be open for multiple explanations nor would invite to start lists like "Dead at 26", "Dead at 28" etc. As this Cat is now deleted you nearly force supporters of a category where (potential) members of Club 27 can be categorized together to start a new category and start the discussion from scratch: by keeping it open for duscusstion at least you would give everyone the chance to give their opinion and then you can also expect that people accept the concensus. Tonkie (talk) 22:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Church category sorting
I asked about doing this on the Wikipedia talk:Categorization page. The simple problem is that you need to sort the same for all pages. So, St, St., Ste. and Saint should sort in the same order. Basically this is not a problem except for the British. If there is a need to sort in some other order for certain categories that can be done, but to set the default sort to be the city for a building makes no sense at all. If you want to find things in a city, use the by city categories. Local preferences should not affect global categories. Local preferences can be used locally. This is also a problem for Mt. and Mount and several other cases. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry I missed the question about sorting. Personally I think the discussion I mentioned above is the right place since sorting is an important part of the category system.  How the DEFAULTSORT is used is critical and runs across all categories and not just the church ones.  I wonder how many editors and readers support sorting by city in categories?  Vegaswikian (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Women's British Open coverage
Hi,

--- this is a copy of a message I left you on wikinews:

I've just read your comments on our news article on the first round of the 2011 Women's British Open. You've suggested for it to be merged with the one dealing with the second round events. If I had more time (I'm back from the course about 8pm, then start looking into computer about an hour later, yesterday I finished work at 1 am, got up at 6am :) ) I could endavour in that, but I was about to start working on the third round text, so probably the second round news is going to expire by that time without being reviewed first. I'm kind of confused - I don't want to spend effort of mine and of Crunch, who's kindly volunteered to help correcting my initial versions, to do things which end up for a large rebuild. What should I do ? Should I start the text on the third round and merge 1st and 2nd ones ? Or maybe wait until the championship finishes on Sunday and then prepare single text on all week's events ? In general my primary assignment is photography reporting from that event. I write texts so just the photos have a place to end up somewhere - maybe someone could take over the written part or at least prepare some agenda/coordination how to proceed with the whole thing ? Preparation to and writing consumes most part of my evening, so it would be an enormous relief for me if I could just focus on taking photos, their selection and postprocessing. Thank you in advance, Wmigda (talk) 21:04, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Dickin
Hey dude. Thanks for the note, I've reverted my own edits there. As for August, well yes indeed, although this youngster looks certain to be lined up for one! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Anglesey GA nominations
Congratulations, St Dona's Church, Llanddona was flawless, passed GA outright. Almost with the others, just some minor issues I'd like you to address for Talk:St Caffo's Church, Llangaffo/GA1 and Talk:St Ffinan's Church, Llanffinan/GA1. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Great job, both passed, so all three promoted. In my opinion those sorts of articles are in many ways exemplary GAs as although short they are very focused and reading them is easy and allows you to take the info in easier.The problem with many wikipedia articles including many GAs I review is that its heavy reading and not always easy to take in the facts. So well done on that. This formula works perfectly for these church articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:29, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK errors
Hello! I just wanted to say that as the reviewer of the last DYK error you picked up, I certainly would not have minded a note on my talk page telling me I had screwed up. Units of measurement = not my strongest area and given the lengthy discussion about it on the nomination page, I thought it was good to go. I fully trust you would not have bitten me. Thank you for letting me know about it, even if it wasn't on my talk page. I'm sorry you got bitten yourself. Good catch! PanydThe muffin is not subtle 20:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

My signature
I wasnt aware that it did i only have one account. Are you sure -- I nExcelsis Deo Talk 21:21, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Well i dont think you are thick, i did say i wasnt aware. I do apologise if i didnt thank you for pointing out the error in my signature or offended you in anyway (it must have happened when i was copy n pasting the font code from another user). you shouldn't be so cynical, i only realised when i signed your talk page. Kind Regrads with a fixed signature -- I nExcelsis Deo Talk 21:31, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Rabinder Singh (barrister) help
Anyway, I read your good article nomination review for the Rabinder Singh (barrister) article. I have since addressed some of the issues that you have flagged up and also expanded the article a little. Would you care to help out on improving the article paticulary the Professional Reputation and Notable Cases sections as I am unsure quite how to approach them addequately. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  I nExcelsis Deo Talk 21:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

GA nomination of Caffo
Please let me know once you have finished expansion. It is looking better, but some more biographical information would be appreciated. Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:37, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

GA nomination

 * Just like to add my congratulations for the Caffo GA, plus for repairing the political icon. Thanks, FruitMonkey (talk) 11:07, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

YouTube
Can you change protection of this template to semi protect? I assume it ain't a vandalism target, after three years (and I would like to positively improve the template). Cheers! Alex discussion ★ 18:46, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Griffith Williams
There was in fact a reason to call it Griffith Williams (bishop). There is another Griffith Williams (poet) without an article yet, but there are links to Griffith Williams that are meant for the poet. I suggest you check the "what links here" before de-dabbing an article. Of course, I hold a minority opinion of the subject of "main names," (I think an article like George Harrison should be George harrison (Beatle), because otherwise all it is much harder to find incorrect links from other George Harrisons to this article.) Therefore, my suggestion may not be all that good! Arch dude (talk) 22:44, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Church categories and defaultsorts
OK, I'll give them a look. One point I'll make is that for UK buildings there seems to be a preference by some editors to sort by the city the building is in, but only for some categories. I assume that there is some logic for that. My preference is to sort by the name of the church spelling out things like saint and mount, which has clear support, and dropping special characters. I also tend to comma separate the location even if the article uses parenthetical disambiguation. For the UK articles I set a default sort and then add a sort key for the categories I think are expected to be sorted by town. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:43, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * St Beuno's Church, Trefdraeth, does not seem to indicate when any of the stages were completed. That makes inclusion in any by year category impossible.  So by year categories are not called for in that article.  Anything more specific then Category:13th-century church buildings would require knowing the denomination.  I did not see that listed.  Since it was after the East–West Schism, one would assume that it was a part of whatever the Church of England was called at that time.  Don't know if your sources cover the denomination. Old Church of St Gwenllwyfo, Llanwenllwyfo seems fine for categories since I don't see anything that pins facts down to centuries or years.  As to denominations, if you look at a category like Category:13th-century church buildings or even Category:20th-century church buildings, you will see that what denomination built a the church is missing in many cases.  There are valid entries here for churches that are non denominational buildings.  Thanks for asking and thanks for 3 good articles! St Beuno's Church, Trefdraeth seems like a good bet to win GA if someone can get past the lack of images.  Vegaswikian (talk) 00:06, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * should churches be in denominational subcats according to what they were when they were built or what they are now? Based on how I interpret the CFDs from the long rename discussions, something like Category:Religious buildings completed in yyyy should be used when the building was built or there is a significant expansion or a major rebuild.  A category like Category:13th-century Roman Catholic church buildings would show when the church was established in that denomination.  What I have not addressed in my changes and no one has asked, is how we use that structure when a building changes denominations?  I guess a case could be made that using your example, it would be correct to list the building in Category:13th-century Roman Catholic church buildings and let's say Category:15th-century Anglican church buildings.  However, hidden comments should be with those to explain why.  Some editors, myself included, can get confused when you use what appears to be wrong categories.  Does this direction make sense?  Since it has not been done before, you kind of get to establish the preferred direction.  Also, if you use something like Category:13th-century Roman Catholic church buildings, it is automatically in Category:Roman Catholic church buildings and it's parents. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Another Welsh church
I see you've got another Welsh church up at GAN. Do you fancy doing that one now, or would you consider it a cruel and inhuman punishment so soon after your last review? Malleus Fatuorum 21:23, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Old Church of St Gwenllwyfo, Llanwenllwyfo
Orlady (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Kenatipo Sandbox3
Thank you for fixing that, Bencherlite. I didn't know. I thought "no-index" took care of everything. If you see anything else that needs tweaking, feel free! --  Kenatipo   speak! 21:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Hey Bencherlite, I just wanted to let you know that I took a look at your recently created article Gwenllwyfo-- It would be great if you could also clean-up the related article List of Roman Catholic churches in Singapore.

Have a fun and productive day! Cheers, Jipinghe (talk) 18:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * No worries. Please remember to award any of the barnstars to anyone who you think deserves it. If you need help with Operation Anglesey please ask. Sp33dyphil "Ad astra" 08:36, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Renewable energy
User:Fetchcomms is not one of the two co-noms. Fetchcomms initially had concerns and they are successfully addressed by the co-noms. The nomination's been sitting idle for 2.5 months without any activity and other editors enquired about the status. Both you and the other party are putting me into "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. So are we going to keep this nom opening indefinitely until either enough support or oppose are gathered to finally close it? I consider you as active and somewhat long-time participant in the featured portal candidate process so you're quite familiar with the commenting process. If you think there're concerns in the portal, or if you're satisfied with it, make your voice heard. OhanaUnited<b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 12:55, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Fetchcomms first said "Everything else seems fine now it's been clarified" and later "Removing those five bios seems to solve most of the problem, so that seems good." I go for the spirit and not the precise letter of the supporting/opposing procedure. Initially, I assumed Fetchcomms to take the stance of "oppose" because he has concerns with the portal. The co-noms fixed Fetchcomms' concerns and appears to be satisfied with the changes. There were no issues in Fetchcomms' list that haven't been addressed so it's plausible to deduce that he is no longer in the "oppose camp".
 * I was in no way singling you out. I was explaining how you can be the solution to the concern you yourself raised. We're not RfA, featured articles, featured pictures, or featured sounds where their scale are much bigger than us, ensuring that there'll always be enough comments to determine consensus. We're not AfD either, so relisting the entry to generate more comments do not seem to be an approach that can generate any actual result. <b style="color:#0000FF;">OhanaUnited</b><b style="color:green;">Talk page</b> 14:50, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Welcome template on vandal's talk page
That didn't post the way I intended it to post; I wasn't expecting Twinkle to post "especially your edits to the Telemarketing article." As for which one it was in response to, it was the first one; I was assuming good faith because technically what the IP posted isn't untrue; a lot of people are annoyed by telemarketers. Now if they said something more blatant that first time (like telemarketers are gay or something), she'd have gotten a vandalism warning. Clearly the edits after that were worthy of the IP being blocked though. <font color="red" face="Comic Sans MS">PCHS-NJROTC <font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS">(Messages) 22:31, 4 October 2011 (UTC)