User talk:Drmies/Archive 3

Deviled eggs
Well done, Dr Reference. You saved the references at Polkagris. A small detail, in the article it says nowadays: Deviled eggs in Belgium, The Netherlands and Germany, where they are usually filled with caviar and served in rémoulade sauce, they are known as "Russian Eggs" (a title that comes from the presence of the caviar).

I added called Russian eggs in The Netherlands and Belgium, and filled with caviar and served in rémoulade sauce, for Germany, but that was only for Germany. Now somebody changed that to go even for The Netherlands and Belgium, and I am not so sure if this is true. Could you clarify the Dutch egg problem?

Yours sincerely

Warrington (talk) 15:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, indeed better meatballs! Everybody needs better meatballs! How do you like this picture? Is your relatives invasion over? Warrington (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * No, they're only temporarily displaced, to Florida. They'll be back in a few days, for another week. Did I tell you I have an aunt in Lund? Beautiful city--it's where I first learned what a Konditorei is. Is that also the Swedish word? I may misremember that. Drmies (talk) 22:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

It seems time may be running out on timelines. I like timelines. Pictures are even better. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, so they are in Florida... a short break. Can you spot aunt Mies here? And CoM,  than you are welcome  express your timelinelove on the pretzel talk page. And is there anybody here who could reveal the caviar or no caviar secret in Dutch Russian eggs? (and how about the remoulade sauce?) In Swedish is konditori, a place to bake, buy and eat pastry.Warrington (talk) 22:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Somebody just added http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scone_(bread)&curid=279562&diff=273745097&oldid=273563252 Scone related Jokes + Q: Why is a scone called a scone? +   + A: Because one minute it's there and the next it's scone

Warrington (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Bongomatic, I agree. How came that you know about lángos nad körözött?

only one Warrington (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yumm . . . been sooo long since I had them. How do you know, and what drove you to search 700+ contributions back in my edit history? Bongo  matic  23:57, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Warrington, that template is fantastic, and so is the photo. I'm sitting on that terrace at that bar right before the campus grounds. Wow, those poppy seeds are really, really cool...hey Bongo, welcome back to my talkpage. Did you bring a snack? I'm sipping a glass of Chianti while making french fries--the real way. Drmies (talk) 00:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I am a Sherlock Holmes, Bongo. But I also edit a lot of Hungarian cuisine articles, and I noticed your change, soooo.. körözött? That is pretty specific... Don’t make me hungry, Mies, I have to go and warm some 'snert'(erwtensoep) – pea soup in the middle of the night.

Warrington (talk) 00:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the only "snert" I know.



I think this cake would be very good to make for your parents or a chili cheeseburger version. I can't believe you are missing out on the ribs. Very unwise. Warrington is really getting twisted into knots over the timeline issue... I hope he doesn't get salty as a result. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Haha. Actually the funny template is not mine, it's Bongo's additon to the joke...

Cute animal (I mean the dog)

Warrington (talk) 01:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Dutch architecture photos
I finally found a source for Dutch architecture photos. Prepare to be wowed (in a few days when I follow up)! :) I got excited when I came across a story on deep fried pizza, but I guess it's old news. There was already an article.  There has been coverage of the dirt cakes or mud pies that Haitians eat, but it's rather depressing. I was trying to figure out something with bacon and bananas, but I don't know what the article would be.  There's no one recipe. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Deep fried pizza? You should stop watching/listening to Fox... Our secretary told me all about it this morning. I draw the line well before that. The fries were not perfect but still pretty tasty; the winner was fresh (boiled) spinach with ground sirloin patties--and I like em red on the inside. Yes, I was wondering whether your architecture fad was already over! I am preparing to be wowed. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm quite sure I heard about the deep fried pizza on All Things Considered *cough* *cough*. Actually, there's a great new international news program produced by a NYC PBS station called World Focus.  The host is a bit of a parody, but getting high quality international news is so refreshing.  I also like European Journal from ITV. I have veggie gyoza, beef jerky, tropical fruit mix (they sell the mix, cut to order, off Mexican carts), and a grapefruit for dinner.  Thought you should know. Thanks again for your work on citations. I enjoyed reading the question above about how to include the translator in the formal template, but I restrained myself from commenting... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're taking care of your health. I'm probably going to die of some mayonnaise-related disease. Fruit mix? Dried? The Dutch eat tutti frutti; a mix of dried fruit (with lots of prunes--those are cheap) that they boil and eat as a vegetable. Not bad, though the prunes get a bit slimy. But why restrain yourself? Let it rip! You know me a bit, by now: I'm a stickler for those sorts of technicalities, and the templates really aren't so good for me. Then again, I haven't even looked into all the different templates for the different styles...
 * In other news, our daughter didn't even eat her french fries! Most irregular, cause she's a french fries junkie, she's really sick, and then she threw up on me, haha. First time ever. Sorry, that's not so nice after your gyoza. Take care! Drmies (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe she wanted ribs? I hope everyone in the Mies, Dr. household feels better soon.  Being sick sucks.  But it keeps us humble and reminds us how much we have to be thankful for when we aren't sick and are moaning about insignificant slights.  Sunny here today.  Thank goodness.  I need to move somewhere warmer.  I don't think humans are designed to survive anything below 60 degrees. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Warmer than SoCal? Dude! Haha, we had an inch of snow here today, it was wonderful. We all went out at 7 AM, and right back in at 7:02. And my folks missed it, since they were bumming on the beach, only three hours south of here.... The household is still pretty sick, though ziti with sausages helps. Oh, I have a new lost cause: Bilocate. Take care, Drmies (talk) 00:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Category
Isn't this a bit weird Christmas Category on commons, including nazi..., see for yourself.

Warrington (talk) 12:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Thanks, hope the little girl is better...

Warrington (talk) 23:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't want you to cry, but someone is cutting this up: Onion day. Black garlic is interesting. BAdagnani might know something about it. More well sourced details on what exactly it is and why its black might be good. How's everyone feeling over there? Be good. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Very exiting, this black garlic- stuff, never tasted it. But I have to complain, BAdagnani never talks to me, just ignores everything I say, good night everybody

Warrington (talk) 23:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

PS This article needs clean up Chicken and dumplings

We all eat cakes!! http://www.foodmuseum.com/excake2.html

Warrington (talk) 14:02, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha, that's a pretty funny page! Drmies (talk) 15:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ) Warrington (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you are the expert on references, do you want to help a Turk in distress? Help asked for here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:D%C3%B6ner_kebab&curid=1204647&diff=274703679&oldid=274687549

Warrington (talk) 16:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC) •

Very nice and very pedagogical of you, and I learned something myself... Warrington (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * My pleasure--I left him/her one as an exercise, haha, and I went through the whole thing for some minor proofreading. Later! Drmies (talk) 19:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

He is rather funny... We will see how he manages

Warrington (talk) 00:00, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dried fruit
Re your message: I left another warning for the editor. Hopefully they will get a clue, though something tells me that they won't and will be back in a few days, so you might want to watch the article. Oh, you can call me Mister Doctor Professor Gogo Dodo, Esq. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding this...
...I think it can be reconstructed in a manner that only includes the citable ones from such sources as this. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 23:48, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Cabal membership revocation
After reviewing the Slavink and Blinde vink coverage on Wikipedia, I am revoking your bacon cabal membership. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This seems to be something up your ally Le dís cuirthear clú Laighean. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * What is Sushi Central? I'm recovering from salmonella of some sort.  Apparently cooking chicken thoroughly is important.  Schmidty is going to be on the red carpet.  He's involved in NUMEROUS award winning productions.  Although he didn't seem impressed with your parents cooking... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, I am sorry--you must feel terrible. Yes, raw chicken is not something I'd recommend. Sushi Central is a restaurant in LA! That's all I know, and I won't learn anymore, since my mom changed the channel, haha. Now, about that slavink and blinde vink stuff, I don't even know the difference--fortunately my mom hardly ever made that for us. Frankly, I'm embarrassed that we eat that sort of stuff. Please don't hold it against me and reinstate me...we ate bacon tonight, on the potato soup...and yesterday, on the roasted chicken...(and bacon drippings in the salad dressing...) and the day before, with eggs. Damn, I eat a lot of bacon... OK, I got to go and get back to grading, before I delve into your Gaelic references. Hope you feel well soon. Drmies (talk) 02:46, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually semi-raw chicken can be extremely good if it's the right chicken prepared correctly. Not for amateurs and the only place I'd partake is in Japan. They also serve a fertilized egg (way earlier than balut, which I'm afraid to try). Bongo  matic  03:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently the family pack of generic brand chicken breast (with ribs attached) I picked up at the Foodmart wasn't sushi grade. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Comparisons between Scots and Jews
I thought about adding the material in immediately, but I expected to have the usual time to do it. There's no deadline, and none of the material was harmful. I was so pleased to find it before I went to sleep, a little early for me, actually--and then--if you knew it was editable, then it wasnt a deletion. Obviously i can deal with restoring an article myself, but other people can't necessarily. DGG (talk) 02:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Baconnaise
I see we have an article for Baconnaise but, shockingly, it's an anemic stub in dire need of expansion. As I know you have a certain affection for bacon-related topics, I thought I'd suggest this to you and ChildofMidnight as a possible near-future topic of interest. Come to think of it, Bacon Salt looks a little small, too. I'm just saying. - Dravecky (talk) 04:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Bacon bits needs help. Bongo  matic  05:11, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries Drmies. I have high immunity to food borne illnesses after a lifetime of eating sutff I'm not supposed to. So it wasn't too bad.  Just uncomfortable and inconvenient.  But I'm better now.  Ready to get back to the work of eating stuff.  I could go either way on Baconnaise and bacon salt. They're fairly trivial, borderline promotional, but not unendurable as stubby articles. I'm restoring you to good standing in the cabal.  I don't quite understand your neglect of your native land's bacon dishes, but nobody is perfect.  Your devotion is well established, and frightening.  I hope your team is getting back to good form and feeling well.  Do you folks like grits?  Sweet tea? Ribs? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I got to work on the slavink. It's notable! And we're having them for dinner tonight, since the Dutch folk are still here, but I'll add a cauliflower/potato casserole to up the Southernness of the dish. Yes, the team is well enough again, thanks. I personally don't care for grits at all, but I made them for the entire household a few days ago and they liked it well enough. Do you think that merging/redirecting -salt and --nnaise requires discussion, or can I be bold? I think that they're never going to get bigger than they are now, bar unforeseen circumstances of course. BTW, you don't like the Claw Boys Claw--how about Primus? Drmies (talk) 19:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm more a soft rock party animal. I think proposing the merges would be good form. I suspect there may be resistance. I think a bacon dishes article might be fun, but I don't like the format of "list of" articles, which I guess is a semantic style argument, but I won't work on anything with "list of" in the title and I'm told that articles listing things can't be titled any other way. I can't wait to see the photos for slavink. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:05, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Cows
As far as I remember you like cows, here is one for you

Gladys the Swiss Dairy Cow,

have fun!

Warrington (talk) 13:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't want to interrupt your cow party, but Google news finds nothing relevant when searching for the artist, and literally nothing at all when searching for the artist and the name of the cow . If this isn't AfD stuff, I don't know what is.
 * In fact, I happen to like the art and the concept.
 * Anyone here have a vested interest? Bongo  matic  13:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, thank god Warrington (talk) 13:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of keep votes accumulating on that one. Seems like a local and rather trivial thing to me.  Go figure.  One man's cow is another man's encyclopedia entry. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

That is good for the cows, but how about the dogs?

I ma getting crazy with a kid who probably newer seen a Komondor or edited Wikipedia and thinks he is an expert anyway.

Now how can somebody make edits like this? (It is also a copyright violation)

Appearance, Size, and Proportions
The Komondors appearance is dignified and commands respect, people unfamiliar with the breed are often surprised by how quick and agile the dogs are.

The AKC Breed Standard states the following for size, weight and proportions of the Komondor:

''Males 27½ inches and up at the withers; Females 25½ inches and up at the withers. Males are approximately 100 pounds and up, Females, approximately 80 pounds and up at maturity, with plenty of bone and substance. While large size is important, type, character, symmetry, movement and ruggedness are of the greatest importance and are on no account to be sacrificed for size alone. The body is slightly longer than the height at the withers. Height below the minimum is a fault.''

The Fédération Cynologique Internationale Hungarian Standard states the following for size weight and proportions of the Komondor:

IMPORTANT PROPORTIONS

•	The body length sligthly exceeds the height at the withers.

•	The deepest point of the brisket is approximately on a level with half of the height at the withers.

•	The muzzle is slightly shorter than half of the length of the head.

HEIGHT AT WITHERS

Males:	Minimum 70 cm. 

Females: Minimum 65 cm.

WEIGHT

Males:	50 – 60 kg. 

Females: 40 – 50 kg.

The breed shows few faults in type and is largely uniform as it has always been bred with the same target.

I remove thet but he will surely put thet back again soon.

Grrrrrrrr Warrington (talk) 13:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Mmmmmmmmmmm Brisket. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Eh...who turned my talk page into a zoo? Really, I should get my boobies back! And Warrington, I'm with you: it's a crying shame. Drmies (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes,

Dr Mies village pump is a zoo nowadays… And what happened to the birds? Did you scare them away and you hope they will come back if you feed them with plate of breads?

Warrington (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I posted a question somewhere at the pump about timelines. If you can figure out where it is, I'd like to know what answer was given. Thanks Warr. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

What kinds of birds are this????? you little monkey,,,

Warrington (talk) 10:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Our essay!
Hey, Drmies! I wanted to draw your attention to this, when you've got a moment. Cheers— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  18:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Woohoo! But...eh...trade magazine? Still, I appreciate your drawing attention to that wonderful piece of prose you and I produced. Since no one responded (to me anyways) I'm going to assume it's the law of the land now. Take care! Drmies (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like today's your day for getting barnstars. :)— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  21:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

News
Mies, Dr., Scapler informs me that chicken fried bacon was another big winner. On a more disturbing note, my recent contribution to the encyclopedia, hydrogen fuel, has been allowed to enter utterly unsourced. Horror of horrors, it is available to the public without a single verifiable tidbit, at least until someone adds a citation to something reliable like Newsweek *cough* *cough* or the New York Times *cough* *cough*. I am, of course, outraged that my OR has been allowed to stand for this long unreverted, without redirection, sin AfDing, and without having been speedy nominated even once.


 * Needless to say, I've had a difficult time wrestling with Warrington's hairy dogs, as well as in other fracases (as opposed to fricassees, which would be much preferable). It's rough out there beyond the cabal!


 * If anyone wants to help out, Scapler is trying to achieve glory with his Middle Colonies article. I tried to bring it into the modern era, but it's still a bit dated. He's trying to get some official (officious?) stamp of approval (GA I believe, which I think stands for Genuflection to Acceptability).


 * The latest bacon cabal project, now that Mies has finally improved the Dutch bacon dishes (why no smoke? where are the pictures?) is clams casino. Do they eat that in the south? It's up there with bacon wrapped scallops, if I don't say so myself.  Anyway, I just wanted to mention these important projects so those with the free time to write policy essays can join in the fun. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone put a couple birds back on your user page. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoa, those are fine... Hey, did you like the photos? Did you not see the gallery at slavink? I just ate the last one, with some chili sauce. As for your clam casino (?), I'll get to it when we're done with the shed, haha. Unless the concrete hasn't dried by tomorrow. In other news, we had chicken cacciatore tonight at a friend/colleague's house. Later, Drmies (talk) 05:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Where's the photo of the finished version? Why is it named after a finch (bird)? Can't stay long. Talk more soon. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:25, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the second photo, that's pretty much how they look when they're done. Sorry, didn't think about that. As for the etymology, well, I don't know, in part because that one book about finches (and other songbirds) referenced in the slavink article doesn't show me the pages with the etymology for blinde vink, which is where it might be explained. So, eh, I don't know! Hey, I made BBQ today, pulled pork, on the grill, with North Carolina and Memphis-style sauces. The Dutchies were happy, and so was the missus. Hope you're having a good weekend! Drmies (talk) 03:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks bro. The photos look good.  I couldn't figure out how to add one to the info box.  What's up with that?  Did some dog sitting.  Animal House. Party on.  Have you had clams casino?  A true American dish like apple pie, pizza, pretzels, croissant and schnitzel. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:56, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

CoM, what is the BLD policy that you wrote I am violating?.I need an answer, it is going to be an investigation of this case (sockpuppets of Meoconne)

(If it may be a joke, than it is not the best place to joke abut things)

Warrington (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

What time is dinner ready?

 * Woohoo thanks! This means a lot to me. And I went ahead and made some edits to that article you referenced; it could do with an overhaul. The barbecue yesterday was delicious; today we're eating at a Japanese fusion-kind of restaurant. Thanks again! Drmies (talk) 22:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Los Super Reyes
Maybe you lost it in the flurry of "don't delete" comments, but the author did provide a Billboard.com link after you said he had to give links rather than tell others to Google it. Could you either help him include it to show you're not out to get blood. He seems rather defensive. - Mgm|(talk) 13:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed. How high something charted is irrelevant, because there is no objective way to draw the line. Basically being included in the chart is the criterion we use because it an objective measure. (The WP:MUSIC criteria say nothing about where in the chart a band has to be either). You don't have to be an expert to add it either. You know how to add references and mentioning it in the lead so even lazy readers instantly know why it meets criteria would work just fine. If music articles use different formats a project member will come along to refactor it soon enough. ;) - Mgm|(talk) 20:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. I mixed this up with another band who curiously got very similar chart listing. - Mgm|(talk) 21:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Check em out. I think I'm in love. Of course if I knew how to use a semicolon I might appreciate them more. I'm looking forward to your edits on the Barack Obama article once the embargo has passed. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, I love that editor! You know, I've been accused of making sentences that are too long for human consumption. Now, what makes you think I have any interest in an article like that? That's like buying a Kelly Clarkson CD--if everyone is doing it, why should I? And I read about your exploits there; I have no intention of getting into these contentious issues. There's enough drama in my life already. Oh, the bacon band-aids came in! They're really strange cause they look just like strips of bacon, but only one by three inches long. But I'm really waiting for the Charlie and Lola DVD I ordered... So, semicolons: they are used to separate/join (same thing) two independent clauses. Here is one independent clause; here is another. Drmies (talk) 02:03, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George Costanza's boss attends Festivus and remarks, "I find your culture fascinating". I tried to use a semicolon in the Dessert bars article for a photo caption where the chip related entities needed segregating from the rest of the sentence, but it didn't seem to apply. This experience has further embittered me towards semicolons and all that they stand for. Which ends in a dangling preposition. So there. Again.  AHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!


 * I will draw you into Wikidrama yet my young friend. Give in to your emotions and join the dark side of the Force!!!


 * I would have told you that the bacon band-aids make wounds look like strange scars. But you didn't ask. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I haven't gotten to watch Colbert Report yet, but someone posted on the A.R. talk page that he said something about a comb over. I'm more of a Dennis Miller fan.  Can you believe it? :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm off to a slow start today... He referred to her as "author, philosopher, and female comb-over specialist"?  Now that we have this assessment from an undisputed source, we don't need the citation to her New York Times obituary. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Since you won't get into the mud with me I'm giving you this mess to sort out. . ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on my page. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:22, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the Colbert segment. Wow, quite a long bit. Amusing. Mostly accurate. A few details were missing (like Galt's invention of a system that eliminates the need for fossil fuels), but I guess that part didn't fit in the summary story-line. Anyway, I was amused, and I'm heartened that you leftist radicals were exposed to the idea that those who don't produce or create are moochers. Power to the people! I mean sheeple! I mean to the innovators! Beam me up. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

I think you guys are a little reactionary on the vagabond comment. I don't think the word is necessarily negative in meaning. This page seems to suggest I'm right as usual. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh...I think the person was suggesting that the person in question was a bum, not a Charlie Chaplin film or a band...? Drmies (talk) 00:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it's my overabundant goodwill and abiding faith in humankind that leads me to always assume good faith and presume the very best possible intent in the actions of others. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe...though "faith in humankind" kind of makes you sound like one of them optimistic liberals... Mind you, I have such faith also (I have to; I'm in education, so I can't be doing it for the money), but that particular comment didn't suggest any kind of neutral meaning. And while I love assuming good faith, it's really a bad nomination, looking at the references that were there (though it's a pretty bad article...). Later! Drmies (talk) 02:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

RinkWorks
DrMies, thank you for your interest in the RinkWorks article. If you don't mind, give me a couple days to take this one under my wing. I have literally visited this site almost every month for 10 years and there are not many sites I can say that about.

Fundamentally, any RinkWorks article must mention the Dialectizer, which was one of those big memes back in '98: you could plug in any page and translate to Elmer fudd, Leetspeak, Swedish chef (bork bork bork!), etc. This was the major such site for that at the time Google was founded, and Google's humorous languages including "bork bork" and "Elmer Fudd" were probably inspired in part by the Dialectizer's success.

I wonder if we're going to be arguing about deleting All Your Base in 10 years... but that didn't inspire any Google features, AFAIK, either. -- Kevin Saff (talk) 02:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * DrMies, one problem is that I seriously doubt there were any print articles written about a Google feature like that, and everything on the web is subject to bitrot. However, I did find a Metafilter article about Googke adding these languages: June 27, 2001.  As you can see, one of the commenters compares this to the Dialectizer:
 * Does that mean they hired [RinkWorks admin] Samuel Stoddard or just ripped off his ideas? This thing's been around for years...one of my favorite Dialectizer tricks is translating Genesis Chapter 1 into Geekspeak, but that's just me....
 * The Dialectizer is the only website mentioned there, and I think it's relevant that's what people immediately thought of. I'll poke around a bit more, I may be able to find something on Slashdot (another oldie). -- Kevin Saff (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nominations and banned users
In your !vote on Articles for deletion/Misha Quint, you wrote:


 * it was suggested elsewhere (can't remember where) that the nom was an AfD troll.

Checking his talk page, he's blocked indefinitely as a banned user. Had another editor not provided a !vote to delete, the AfD could have been closed with a speedy keep because he's a banned user. Since another editor also favors deletion, the AfD is allowed to run its course. —C.Fred (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Burragubba comment redaction
Most welcome ! - Peripitus (Talk) 01:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Chocolate cake
I didn't even think to look at the history silly me. There wasn't really much to use there anyway. Thanks very much for the barnstar. Very much appreciated. Why isn't there an article on Conrad Van Houten? ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Cuz you misspelled it: Conrad Van Orton. Bongo  matic  07:04, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Surely you jest Bongo. I never make mistakes. Conrad Van Houten was the 19th Century chocolate processing pioneer from the Netherlands who made all good things chocolatey (except for those that didn't require his technique of conching, or Dutching as it's now known) possible. Does it relate to the paint thing too?  Drmies will know, unless he doesn't.
 * "Up until the 19th century chocolate only existed in liquid form. The process of making it solid proved surprisingly difficult and only became possible after the invention of a cocoa press by Dutchman Conrad van Houten in 1828. Until then, chocolate had been made by grinding the roasted cocoa beans into a "chocolate liquor" and combining it with sugar and spices. But the cocoa bean consisted of 53% fat. Some could be extracted using a hand press, but Van Houten's invention was far more efficient, removing two thirds of the fat, and adding potash to neutralise the acids and making it more digestible. This process, which darkens the colour and lightens the flavour, is still known as 'dutching'.". ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Coenraad Johannes van Houten Bongo  matic  07:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That article is a mess, but I'm on it. After all, I'm from the oldest Superfund site in the world, the Zaan--full of paint and chocolate factories. Drmies (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * How about it? Drmies (talk) 15:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I redirected Conrad Van Houten to Coenraad Johannes van Houten, a title that violates Wikipedia's naming conventions (middle names omitted) and goes against the English language sources. We 'mericans can't be expected to use foreign spellings. But as an olive branch of generosity and goodwill to promote mutual understanding and peace on earth, I'm willing to use the "Dutch" spelling for this character. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sir, you are too kind! Drmies (talk) 18:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Alan Cabal AfD
Hi Drmies: Check out the alternate version of the Alan Cabal article before it got ruined. It clearly establishes notability. There are additional sources as well out there. Yper.digest (talk) 07:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I checked it out, Ms. "Blocked as a sockpuppet" for the millionth time. There's still nothing there. Get a life. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

POGIL
This looks to be your kind of thing teach. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:14, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, thanks--but I know nothing at all about pedagogy, I'm scared about things that are acronyms, and I just make things up as I go along! How you doing? Staying clear of controversy (sections)? Drmies (talk) 01:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought you were the chair of pedagogy? Maybe this will be more your thing. The McGangBang. They're calling it the "poor man's Turducken" and it's a McChicken sandwich inside a double cheesburger. If we can save it this would be our greatest coup yet... I think it got into trouble when someone tried to add a disambiguation for gangbang including the sandwich... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw that this afternoon and described it to my wife. She might stop tonight for a McShake somewhere, and I requested she at least try to order one, but she only laughed at me. Well, the McGangbang is listed on this authoritative site, so how could it not be notable? It is making me hungry...I probably didn't put enough crumbled bacon on the potato salad tonight... Drmies (talk) 02:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * True. I also think we should consider whether to begin working on the Porkgasm, Meat Cake, Deep Fried Grilled Cheese Sandwich, Meat (in) Loaf,Taco Town Taco and the Homewrecker .  At the very least, I'm sure Caspian will want to add Meat Cake to the List of Cakes artlce. I'm sure they don't have delicacies like this in the Netherlands, but maybe some day... ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:31, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I'm most impressed with the pizza-pizza burger. And I asked at McDonalds if they've had people order a McChicken inside a double cheeseburger and the lady said they have. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:38, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oooooh you're making me hungry. I wish I had some hot wings. Of course, this is America--I can just get in the car and buy some! But I won't. Pizza-pizza burger--was that the pizza whose crust was made of hamburger meat? I thought the pizza topped with mini pizzas was kind of funny. Drmies (talk) 04:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, the McGangBang looks like a combination of intriguing and disgusting, I am going to see what I can find. If it had bacon on it there would be a cause for the Bacon Cabal.  In other news, I pass a Jimboy's Tacos on my way into Carson City, doesn't seem like a proper name for a Taco Joint...--kelapstick (talk) 05:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Woof
What did you think I was wrong about? (There are too many options :))

Warrington (talk) 10:25, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, I like this concept--accuse someone and then see what they'll confess to. Very Orwellian. But no, I was yelling at ChildofMidnight, my good conservative friend who keeps running afoul of certain things--like when he doesn't realize that Communists and, worse, Socialists run the world, the media, and Wikipedia. All his base are belong to us. Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression: I think you're a fine person, I love your moose sign, and I appreciate what you do for all creatures great and small, including the Blue Lacy (isn't that a nice looking dog?). Drmies (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok. In that case, will you help out with something dogwise? I don’t get it. Can’t see what is wrong with one reference at the Komondor dog…  Some kid messed up the article an one ref is bright red, but I don’t know why and I can’t fix it… (none of them was in a great shape)

Warrington (talk) 17:04, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Warrington, the references are a mess. If they'd all be in templates, it'd be easier. The problem is that there is no reference with 'name="the Komondor"', but why only one of the three references to that reference is red-lined is a mystery to me. Right now it's note 17; if I remove that, it's the new note 17 (the old 18). One of the candidates is a ref from 5stardog or some such site, but that one is not loading. There are a couple of other pages that have something about fur and wolves' bites, so another reference could be found. But I think I'd start from scratch by templating all the references, and finding new ones (or working ones) for the statements in the article...not a fun job... (And time-consuming: I spent more than an hour cleaning up Blue Lacy this morning.) Have fun, sorry I couldn't help more, Drmies (talk) 17:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done about as much as I can do--refs into templates, copyedits, etc. I am totally unsure of that one book that is cited: no library or catalog gives me anything for that ISBN, and the only other reference I found was on the Russian Wikipedia. If you know more, please go ahead and fill in the blanks. Happy wolf-biting, later! Drmies (talk) 18:53, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I was exactly going to add the Blue Lacy to your page! Really funny, you just ddid it before me. THANKYOUVERYMUCH! You are really a tresure.

Warrington (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, it is a goodlooking dog, like the Komondor. I just found a dog for you: Drmies (talk) 19:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Aha, no reference with 'name="the Komondor"', the kid removed it. GGGrrrrr. That book is in Hungarian, from a Budapesrian editor. Here, http://www.antikvarium.hu/ant/book.php?ID=160800, can you read Hungarian? Mies, what does that dog doing in the cookware? Warrington (talk) 20:11, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not a word, though after a few minutes I did learn that "kiado" means "press." I changed the template; I hope it's somewhat correct!
 * Oh, it was a new grill we got--I just wanted to see if Sadie would fit! Drmies (talk) 20:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

We all learn new languages, all the time, correct, "kiado" is "press." Ahm, now I see the Grrr@#$%^&*(*&^%$!   Caption, "This user loves hot dogs"... :).

Post scriptum

That moose sign was our lovely friend, CoM’s gift.

Warrington (talk) 20:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Mies, why are you doing everything at the same time like I go, only faster? I was about adding thumb to Sadie, when my edits were blown away by an edit conflict... same edit as yours:) Warrington (talk) 21:19, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great minds think alike, haha! Hey, thanks for the star--that's really nice of you! In the meantime, I've been bringing home the bacon, and made a new section to make mine host (really, CoM and his government) feel good. Drmies (talk) 22:25, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

You are wery welcome. Don’t forget to feed all your dogs with some of that bacon!

Warrington (talk) 23:06, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Wonder why dogs like to roll around in flower beds. Is it cooler or more exiting? Mad Max Thunderdome is on now. As it reflects the future as embraced by a certain president's economic and environmental policies (renewable energy anyone?). I think you should watch. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Bacon barnstar

 * Congrats Drmies. If we weren't bound by this "star" tradition I think a barntwostrips might be more appropriate.  Any takers?
 * "unnotable partisan hack"
 * That was an AfD deletion rationale in its entirety, and my favorite justification so far. How was Ferrell's performance as G Dub? I like the one where he's on the farm. Have you seen that?  Check it out on Youtube.  Kelapstick made a potluck dish with no bacon, no cool whip, and no pizza-ghetti. So I'm a little disappointed with him. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I missed it entirely--at that time I was engaged in a very contentious process of editing. Those two strips of bacon, that's a lovely picture. I hope I made up for Kelapstick (who is rotten to the core, morally speaking) by frying bacon, then frying potatoes in the leftover grease, then adding that leftover grease to some gumbo, which I ate while reading Just David. But the girls are coming home soon, so the party is over! Take care, Drmies (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * So no more living like a rock star I suppose...too bad, you can no longer eat cheese like an apple, right from the block (or is it just me that does that when I am on my own?). There was some debate about putting bacon in the chowder, but since I couldn't do the explosion, I was boycotting all togeather.--kelapstick (talk) 18:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, rock star...just staying up too late and not making the bed. The dog didn't even want to join me, so the bed was really empty. Eating cheese from the block, I have to oppose that--it's better to slice it or cut it so it can get to room temperature. Of course that serves no purpose with nasty cheddar from Publix, and the cheese my folks brought is all gone... Go ahead, bacon up the chowder! It's a must! Drmies (talk) 18:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I heard this on CBC radio this weekend...Italian bank accepts cheese as colateral...a solution for the financial crisis we haven't considered?--kelapstick (talk) 19:25, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The line for bread and government cheese starts behind me. Drmies are you going to add your minor barnstar to your userpage?  I think that's the one that really started it all off.  Before that you were nothing. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

SEC
Why didn't Auburn get a spot in the NCAA tournamen? They swept Miss. State, their losses were to teams that are in the tournament. BOGUS!!! Maryland, Wisconsin, Arizona and Michigan in over them? Puh-leeze. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, that Auburn isn't in it is just a part of Providence--there is already enough evil in the world, I reckon. Did you see this AfD? No one talks about the SEC like that! Unless, of course, they're with the NCAA, and as it happens, I guess they're right. The SEC is nothing... Then again, in b-ball I'm a Dukie, so who cares! Drmies (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sure they weren't talking about the Securities and Exchange Commission? From what I read it seems you may have trouble keeping the subjects straight. One deals with pretending to oversee stock market and the other pretends to be able to compete with the Big East. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, there's obviously something wrong if the SEC concerned with money takes precedence, in WP over the other SEC, which is not concerned with money at all but only with promoting the education of student athletes, turning them into fine young men and women. BTW, I only care about Duke and the ACC in basketball, cause I'm snobby that way too! Drmies (talk) 16:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Opiates
I liked this bit "These cakes predate Christianity when the poppy was dedicated to the Moon goddess-ref-June Meyers Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipes Cookbook, Poppy Seed Moon Cake or Makosbeigli -/ref-, the goddess of the night and sleep, since the seeds contains opium." But I can't find it now You don't accept the moon goddess connection to sleep and opiates? Anyway, thanks for your good work on the article. The dog at the top of your page looks like a Blue heeler.

Once you finish with poppy seeds, you can start on chocolate cake and hydrogen fuel. Woo hoo!!! When is the draft? Who is going to take Jerraud Powers? If Auburn wins the NIT you have to buy me something, and if Alabama wins I will buy you something. Hahahahah. No just kidding, okay if Duke wins the NCAA I will buy you something. Deal? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the problem was that it could not be verified. BTW, that reference had Warrington all over it--or was it you? The book isn't available online (Amazon lists it, but only used, one copy). So I looked elsewhere, and found this other reference, but it didn't mention opium. Besides, I really, really doubt that the ancients would have used poppy seeds to get high with--if they could do that, then it would be all over every college campus in the US, and it isn't. As for the deal, sure! You're on safe ground there, I think--isn't Duke going to run into Pittsburgh? So, you get to pick a no. 2 also, how about that? Now, don't name that dog names--there's a whole slew of Blue Lacy fanatics (look through the article history) who'll put a hit out on you if you say the wrong thing. Like, "Oh, my Blue Lacy weighs 32 pounds!" (or whatever weight was wrong) Drmies (talk) 00:23, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, I didn't tell you this yet, but the poppy seed article looks really interesting and solid, and that's all your doing. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't let a little thing like verification slow you down. If it sounds good it's worth including. See wp:IISGIWI. According to my AKC guide your pooch is a bit meaty in the brisket area.  I will have to research the moon goddess opium poppy, mohnstreizel connection.  Or better yet I'll ask Warrington to do it.  Thanks for your kind words on the poppy seed article, a lot of nice people seem to come along and help me out. Although some sorting out between the opium poppy, poppy, and poppy seed article was still required last I checked, but I'm trying to avoid conflicts so I'm only editing non-controversial inanimate object articles and children's fiction. Would you be willing to disambiguate Tiki? That's on my to do list, but if you do it then I can go on vacation. Why do I get to pick a #2?  You think Duke's chances in the NCAA are better than Auburn's in the NIT?  I thought our side bet would be my Lakers against your Bobcats... Maybe a poppyseed bagel will help ease your pain?  Low level opiates are better than none right? HSPD!!! Do they allow Irish people down there? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Vacation is best left to Europeans. What's the problem with Tiki? I just looked at it, but penis is all I saw that was problematic. Never mind, I don't really care, haha. Go anyway, leave it for Warrington, if he's done going to the dogs. You get a no. 2, I get a no. 2, for winning the whole thing. That's fair. I don't know what AU's chances are anywhere--I always skip that part of the paper. And, eh, I have Bobcats? Didn't I tell you, aeons ago, that I only follow the Lakers? (Yes, I'm snobby that way too.) But do research the moon goddess. If there is an opium connection I'd be surprised--sounds like a popular myth that would have its origin in the nineteenth century. Oh, since I'm unblemished and immaculate, would you like me to add a "controversies" section to the Obama article? Citizenship and all that? Communism? Secret muslim? Secret Cheez-Whiz addict? You name it! Are you really going on vacation? What will we do with ourselves? Kelapstick will have to be our intrepid moral leader... PS: My wife remarked that we're eating way more pork than we used to...ham steak tonight, with fries and roasted asparagus... Drmies (talk) 00:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you seen the add with the two pigs sitting down to eat ham at a table in a fancy restautrant? I forget what it's for, but I mean WHOA!!! A little too close to home (except for the fancy restaurant...)  :)  No. 2 in the tourney?  Hmmmm... Have to think on it.  I'd like to take Washington or someone fun, but I suppose Pitt, UConn maybe, or Memphis... Lousville?  Jeessh, why you gotta go and make things all complicated? How bout them J E T S Jets Jets Jets??? And look out for Vince Young... Here's my view on O'bama edits  (get it?  St. Patricks day... O'Bama??? ahahahahaha!!!!)


 * But seriously, it's not p.c. to discuss the Black Irish, but Black Dutch might be okay. Although that one looks like a mess of an article. What is the yiddish word Jackie Mason got in trouble for?  Yiddish is fairly awesome.  Is there any Yiddish word that doesn't have a negative and sarcastic connotation?  I think that should be my native tongue. Oy!


 * Anyway, I hope it's a lucky night for you. Follow the rainbow to your pot o' gold! The market is recovering!!! The stimulus is on its way.  It's all good!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I dare you to move Barack Obama to Barack O'Bama. Wouldn't that be kind of cool? Oh well. Hey I worked on a hoax article today that an author made up for a character in his book. Nothing too exciting though really, you can't fool me! ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Wait a minute... ham steak? Aren't you supposed to be having corned beef and cabbage with black eyed peas, cornbread and sweet tea??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:41, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Pff, your president has 3.1% Irish, I got zero. And I hate cabbage. I did have cheap vodka with apple juice as an appetizer, and that's Irish enough, I think: drink whatever you have! And I did see that pig ad. It's really stupid, but also very memorable. My wife wants me to start smoking again so I'll drop the whole bacon thing. Ha, I'll just light up while munching on some pork! That O'Bama suggestion is hilarious, BTW, I love it, but I don't have the guts. And I hope it's a lucky night too--Mrs. Drmies is looking pretty good tonight. Hee-haw! All the best to you, lad! Drmies (talk) 01:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

3.1% Irish? Is that real? I thought that's the alcohol content of 'merican beer... Aren't you expected to chew tobaccy down there: Skoal? I think it's in a green tin too... You have fun too laddy. Take care O'yourself. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh...Phyl? Drmies (talk) 02:08, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha I'm watching Law and Order where they're trying to match an earprint. No mention of an eard. Drmies (talk) 02:08, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * What is "Eh...Phyl?"? Phyl? I have been struggling with this mystery for some time now. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the Irish wolfhound card you sent, it said "From Phyl" or something like that. I thought maybe your name is Phyllis. Anyway, I'm watching the president, and his shirt looked kind of funny, it seemed--and then I realized the yellow spot on his white shirt was moving: our TV is broken... I broiled some sea trout for dinner, and E. ate a whole fillet, and her pilaf and cole slaw, so we're pleased. The weather is beautiful here, but unfortunately spring break will soon be over. Later, Drmies (talk) 23:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to call me Phyllis. Or Chlorophyll if you prefer. Auburn is through to the second round... ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Auburn is through to the Quarterfinals after an impressive win over Tulsa. They have a face-off with Baylor next. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:10, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Aidan Gould
Age matters not as long as guideline is met. Its a keeper. Nice work.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Found some English reviews that sang his praise. Added them and did a slight expansion. Nice find.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Imagine my surpise when I had an edit conflict at an article I had tagged as IN USE. No matter. You did very well, and thank you. For myself, I added the US Variety criticism of the film for reception balance, and expanded the cast and infobox... and a nice other-film comparison in the header. For MANY MANY more reviews, and some of the German ones may well mention young Aidan (I have not even read some, nuch less all) check this goldmine. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

A Dutch review: http://www.cinema.nl/artikelen/3919243/vastgeklonken-aan-randfiguur  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You got me thinking about that Haba cite put up by the one-day SPA. I found this: http://www.haaba.com/about-us, and they do seem to act like a online news service: http://www.naijahotjobs.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=14144.0 Its iffy... but what does your sense tell you? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7DVXA&q=Haaba,+news+service&start=10&sa=N    Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the article was not badly written, but I wouldn't cite from anything like that unless in a pinch. Fortunately we found plenty of other things, so we don't have to include something that's at the least not immediately reliable. That review was written by an "editor"--editor schmeditor! BTW, that was a drag, those "improvements"; they took four undo's. Drmies (talk) 00:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Rod Dreher (third nomination)
Hi, thanks for closing this. I know one can "salt" the recreation of articles--can the same be done for AfDs for articles? Drmies (talk) 18:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I wish - no, not that I know of. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 11:33, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sword of the Prophet
I fully concur. As I noted on the talk page, it's odd that we have an article on this book, but nothing on the history or folklore of Muhammad's actual sword. Even worse when the book article was essentially a puff piece to promote sales. Thanks for paring away the junk. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 17:34, 20 March 2009 (UTC)


 * That's OK. Y'all have had a long drought in T-town, and I'm glad to see the Tide rolling in for a while, instead of out. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 13:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Building a bio....

 * This little guy is rather amazing. I found this link which took me to the Portsmouth Herald.. scroll down and read about one of the youngest mountain climbers. This little guy is getting around.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Clams casino

 * Thank for tweaking the references. I always try to dot my Is and cross my Ts, but sometimes I get distracted... What? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:22, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Baconnaise
It's a distinct product with independent sources confirming it's existence. In addition, it has the potential to grow into a mature article. Tucking it in the Bacon article wouldn't serve any purpose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Archer1742 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Fee fie foe fum
How about a bacon in popular culture article with an April 1st hook? I'm thinking some combo of the somewhat notable bacon related food oddities, the more notable bacon items such as band aids, and perhaps some content on other bacon phenomenon like its popularity on the internet and as a symbol all things good... I mean gluttinous. Are you in? Can it be justified as a stand alone from bacon? I'm thinking yes, yes and yes. So whatever you're opinion you're outvoted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, sure! Drmies (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Baconnaise
It's a distinct product with independent sources confirming it's existence. In addition, it has the potential to grow into a mature article. Tucking it in the Bacon article wouldn't serve any purpose. Archer1742 (talk) 06:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Clams casino
Time to double down and go all in! Can you get some little necks or cherry stones down there? Clams casino are great. Also, keep on warmongering. The best defense is a good offense. Peace through superior firepower. I knew you wouldn't let me down! :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Conferencing
I'm afraid you may have missed my DYK hook proposal, so I'm putting it here for your convenience:

Did you know ...that Hausstock is part of the nummulite formation of the high Glarus Alps and was a popular European mountaineering destination before becoming a ski resort?

I think they serve clams casino at the Ski Lodge, but I'm not certain. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:51, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ha, I saw that, but I though you were pulling my larriot! I'll get back to you--I'm planning my retirement with some sales rep, apparently. Drmies (talk) 18:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Nummulite makes me think of numma numma. I had to look up larriot, but all I found was lariat meaning lasso. What's up with that?  Are you trying to trick me?  I thought a lariat (or larriot) was some kind of tie, like a knot with a handkerchief. No?  Who knows.  Anyway, I think I'm ready to run for Admin.  I've pissed off enough people that it will be very exciting! :) I also think it would beg ood if you and Kelapstick launched candidacies.  Not only do I need someone to unblock me when I get into trouble, but I want to pork up your RfA nomination pages with all kinds of irrelevant questions and aspersions on your character, politics, motivations, and editing practices.  Thanks in advance for agreeing to go for it. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure! I can always abuse more power, and I can't wait for that RFA to come along. Now, the larriot line, I'm disappointed in you--yes, I guess it's an alternate spelling, but that you didn't spot that as a line out of Blazing Saddles makes me sad. Oh, my retirement, that looked a lot better a year ago. I'm sure you'll find a way to blame Christopher Dodd for it; I put the blame on the bank and investment managers. Of course, I'm right, which I'll enforce after I become an admin. I'm hesitant on the nummulite thing since I'm not a geologist and I don't know exactly what all that stuff means and whether I got it right--that's why I wanted K-stick to look at it. But it's not a bad hook. Bacon would be better, of course... Drmies (talk) 20:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, your response to my idea for you to be an Admin was too enthusiastic. One of the key criteria for being and administrator is making clear that you don't really want to be an administrator. We'll have to wait a couple months and see if your greed and obsession for power becomes less pronounced. :)
 * Did I ask you if you ever read any Pramoedya Ananta Toer? Good stuff on Dutch colonialism if you like Marquez and that kind of historical fiction. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I laughed at this when I first saw it (and started writing a reply but never finished it). I would love to see CoMs RfA, if nothing else it would be amusing to see all the "friends" one can make over such a short period of time.  Putting me up so you have a bacon cabal member on the inside to bail you out would be an attempt at the futile, there is no way it would pass, I look too much like a deletionist, and in the few RfAs that I have read that is a no-no.--kelapstick (talk) 23:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Nearshoring article
Dear Drmies, thank you for your changes and improvements to Nearshoring article. I appreciate your opinion as for my last contributions, as some of them were cut, do you think that mentioned benefits (Time Zone, Geographic proximity, Cultural Affinity of Nearshoring etc) didn't fit the article or seemed as promotional tone?

Actually I though that I need to keep them shorter, but there wasn't any list of benefits that really worth to pay attention. Should I put the shorter list without detailed description?

Aslo, I'll be very glad if you would mind if I keep one of the reference there, (Nearshore Outsourcing in Europe (2009-03-21) " The Nearshore Concept) as it's really interesting article from Nearshoring Consultants, who we cooperate in Nearshore Outsourcing Blog with, we all trying to fairly develop Nearshoring direction in the current business environment.

Cheers (Sergeyl1984 (talk) 21:17, 24 March 2009 (UTC))

New thought
Chicken fried clams heard of it? Going to try to make it?--kelapstick (talk) 02:08, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And yet you and Kelapstick claim to "work". ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I claim to be at work, not working...Although I was here until 7 yesterday :S--kelapstick (talk) 15:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Very bad news
Auburn lost by 2 to Baylor. So their triumphant run ends in the NIT quarter finals. Also, I'm sorry to have to report to you that some vandal has reduced the bacon in popular culture Food and Drink project priority level from "top" to "low". There is good news though, they added a U.S. project template with a top rating, which seems very appropriate to me. Apparently they didn't think the article had enough global importance to justify a top food and drink rating, but for 'Mericans they recognized its critical standing. I see their point, and I guess all-in-all it worked out okay. Finally, because of your abiding interest in Objectivism, individualism, and all things Galt, you may want to know that the Ayn Rand talk page is really heating up. I was hoping you could translate some of the discussion for me. It seems to be mostly in Russian, and I haven't been this confused since trying to sort out the significance of that Guru's article. Speaking of headaches, that dispute is nothing compared to the brain freeze/ice cream headache photo dispute. Once you get back from your conference on Exopolitics we can discuss these issues and the plans for you to represent Wikipedia at the next "bacon camp" and your RfA. Rest up. You'll need all your strength. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Drmies, using a sock puppet to make this sort of edit is unhelpful . :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:27, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Couldn't we have gotten a picture where the guy had at least washed his hands?--kelapstick (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Very funny Kelapschtick. But you and Drmies have shown a clear bias against the bacon eating habits of the blue collar laboring class that is deeply troubling. Bacon should not be allowed to become gentrified by hoity toity square milk jug using Canadians and the academic elite who immerse their bacon in melted chocolate and season it with pungent utopian notions of socialistic idealism. That the "bacon camps" have been held in San Francisco and Seattle is already cause for concern. We mustn't lose touch with the heartland and bacon's agricultural roots. Bacon tastes best eaten with a callused hand after a long hard day's work. (If only you could see the tear in my eye and hear the national anthem playing in the background as my American flag waves in the spring breeze). Bacon now, bacon forever! ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * First, square milk jugs are not in Canada, so I am one of the lucky few who has access to these marvels of milk engineering. Second, I am not trying to take bacon salt from blue collar America, I just want them to either put it on a table when they take a picture, or wash their hands....--kelapstick (talk) 18:54, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This statement is clear anti-Americanism and I'm tempted to report it to a fair minded Admin who will no doubt block you for a long time for such insolence. This is America, and we don't have to wash our hands if we don't want to. Liberty or death my friend, liberty or death! See also . ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I wish you could get milk bags here, we have two containers that sit under the counter sadly as they never get used, you aren't going call the HUAC and go all McCarthy on me are you?--kelapstick (talk) 22:26, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll be happy to know that Ann Coulter and other elite historians are working diligently to restore the unfairly tarnished reputation of one Joseph McCarthy, a true patriot whose work rooting out the communists will no doubt be celebrated one day when the conspiracy is more fully revealed (see Red Dawn).
 * Should a milk bag and one of those hats that muggers wear be added to the Canadian culture article? It is very poorly illustrated. At least a snowball, some poutine and a bit of pizza-ghetti would make it more "homey". Should we do some work on it? I'm going to try to tear myself away from the CPU, so feel free to work on bacon in popular culture while I'm gone. See you soon.  And remember, Hope is on the way, and Yes we can! ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely the tuque, and thats not the hat that muggers wear, thats a balaclava, well muggers and ninjas wear them. Poutine would probably me a good addition too, if I could ever find cheese curd here I would make some, it's just not the same wit shredded.    I take it the Yes we can is a tribute to Bob the Builder and not el Presedente...how did this conversation ever get going on the Doctor's page?--kelapstick (talk) 23:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

thumb|right|250px|imagine this on a T-shirt... Haha, I don't know how this got here, but I'm enjoying it. CoM, I got a skit with a part in it for you--you can play Bubba, if you like, and your momma ran away to Memphis. Did either of you watch the Colbert Report a few days ago, when Neil Gaiman was the guest? I'm seeing and hearing him tomorrow at the convention I'm at. As for blue collar bacon, breakfast at the hotel this morning was $20 (*&^$$%^&*), but they did give me five slices of bacon. A bit overcooked. And not the most expensive kind. So, if you want to make some kind of wild statement about kelapstick and me taking bacon away from the class to whom it belongs, think again, and blame that on America's entrepreneurs, including those who run the Hyatt Regency in Minneapolis. Speaking of which, I knew that in Minnesota it was about 50 degrees colder than in Alabama, and I wish I had thought more carefully about that fact when I packed my bags (without my down jacket, hat, and gloves). On the bright side, I did have an eight-course meal in a Japanese restaurant frequented by Hideki Matsui and other J-stars. Yumm-o! Drmies (talk) 19:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I was getting ready to send out a search party... Just when I thought you couldn't do anything more outrageous, here you are talking about Minnesota and yet you return without photos of glorified rice, dessert bars, cookie salad, snickers salad and seven-layer salad. I can only assume that you had no free time. I hope you had a good trip.  Welcome home.  I'm glad I'm not in trouble for cluttering up your talk page with my insane rantings. Did you help with the sand-bagging out there?  No not that kind of sand bagging you sicko. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:28, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, no, I'm still here, until Sunday. Plenty of time for these strange concoctions you mention. My company is considering the Cheesecake Factory--I prefer something smaller and more local. We'll see. I just moderated a session of poetry readings, which was fun enough. (The club is Sigma Tau Delta.) Tonight we have a dry T-shirt competition, combined with a skit, and I wrote a purty good one if I say so myself (it features William Bedford Lee, III (that's me), cousins Zeke and Bubba, and a cutie-petootie called Candy). Keep your fingers crosses, and pray it's over soon so I won't miss too much of the Duke game! Drmies (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We took our son for dinner to the Cheesecake Factory at Caesar's Palace in Vegas for his first birthday (he was not such a fan of the cheesecake, I think he gets that from me). We went again in September when I was down there for work, it's alright I suppose, but local flavour is always nice.  As for dry T-shirt contests, I used to have a Blue screen of death T-shirt, until it got thrown out by the only other person in our house who knows how to use the garbage can properly...I also had one that said "There are only 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary and those that don't."  It suffered the same fate...--kelapstick (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, those are both pretty funny. Our shirt says "Beowulf helped me got this cool S igma T au D elta shirt --the back says "Maybe Angelina Jolie can help you." In Old English font, of course. As for BSOD, I have some forty pictures on my Facebook page of the screens of death acquired with Microsoft Vista. Some of them are quite pretty. Drmies (talk) 22:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Nearshoring
Dear Drmies, thank you for the comments, actually there isn't any copyvio problems, as we lead a blog with that company dedicated to Nearshoring, and I contribute to that article (you mentioned), if you need any confirmation of my participation in creating that article I'll be glad to provide you with them.

Cheers! (Sergeyl1984 (talk) 20:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC))

Regarding this
Please note that I am addressing your specific concern by adding an out of universe section on Reception with sourcing from Google News. Please reconsider. Thanks! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 15:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Happy ChildofMidnight's Day!
This was posted on my talk page. But I didn't want you to miss a moment of knowing that today is my day, so I've been kind enough to repost the good news here. You're welcome. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:26, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Sarcófago
Eh up. Musicaindustrial is trying to get the Sarcófago article up to Good Article status. I think it's looking pretty good already, but any help would be greatly appreciated :-) Blackmetalbaz (talk) 15:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Greetings, Drmies... I've read your comments. Here are my doubts:


 * About the sources: according to Wikipedia, why wouldn't these sources be that reliable? I know that this version of Wikipedia prioritizes sources in english, so that's a definite factor... That's one of the side-effects of being a Brazilian "cult" band - not much is written about you in foreign magazines.


 * Regarding the lead: what do you suggest? Maybe add another paragraph to it, dwelling on the subject of their conflicts with Ratos de Porão and Sepultura or the "Sarcófago Tribute" reunion tour?


 * Could you tell me more about the format you suggested for the references section? Sorry, I didn't quite understand what you wrote.


 * And yes, it is good thing you're downloading the album. If you're willing to, we can discuss at length whether or not The Laws of Scourge could be considered "thrash".


 * Best regards, Musicaindustrial (talk) 11:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Evolvian
This prodded article has a Dutch connection. Which is a cool movie title. The Dutch Connection... starring Mies, Dr. as Henry Killinger; Bongomatic as The Deletionist; and ChildofMidnight as Nicky Killebrew, the only hope for a world in desperate trouble... ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:18, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I do like The Dutch Connection--but wow, that's the biggest bunch of nonsense I've seen in a long time. I'd apologize, but I was looking at Mars Boob earlier, and I didn't hear you apologize for that. Hey, who's going to be the romantic interest for Henry Killinger, a man with such sex appeal that he'll give Paul Newman a run for his money, and who makes Sean Connery look like Ross Perot? Oh yes. Drmies (talk) 03:27, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * HA! (that is all)--kelapstick (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Rammstein discography
Hi, could you do a copy-edit in this article?  C  anniba loki  16:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure. Drmies (talk) 21:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!  C  anniba loki  22:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Hausstock
--Dravecky (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Congrats. Very classy.  And speaking of classy: . ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:11, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice work, I noticed the Doctor is/was missing from the Bacon mania merge discussion at Talk:Bacon...I am looking forward to seeing the upcoming AfD that might come of this...--kelapstick (talk) 21:25, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * and thanks to both of you on your help with the mountain. That bacon video is somewhat revolting (and esp. the old guy with the blue hat). Still, I'd compete! Sure! Yes, that AfD is indeed something to look forward to, and it's gonna be an uphill battle, NASCAR or no NASCAR. Drmies (talk) 23:51, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought my Beatlemania analogy was pretty good.--kelapstick (talk) 23:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I agree, and I silently applauded you for it. I left some comments and buying tips at the Talk page for Bacon. Drmies (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Careful Ronz might nail you for Spam!--kelapstick (talk) 00:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
 C  anniba loki  19:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Woodman's of Essex

 * I saw Ali G's visit to a Bama game on youtube (as Bruno) and thought of you. What happened to Warrington?  Did you find the martini bar that serves hotdish at happy hour while you were in Minneapolis? Be good. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, my buddy Wade was the videographer for the football games and he told me all about it, right after the shoot, in the bar. It was a bit embarrassing, I admit--bunch of rednecks. And did you see Shaud "Dude I'm not gay" Williams? I don't know what happened to Warrington. Last time I ran into them was at a dog show, can't remember the make or model. And no, I did not find any martini bar at all. I did find a restaurant called Hell's Kitchen, where they served delicious porridge (made of wild rice and cream and hazelnuts...), and I ate a steak (I don't do that often) at a restaurant called the NewsRoom, and had a raspberry mojito. There were other delights, but I'm glad to be home again. Cannibaloki is helping me with Kronos Quartet discography; remember you tweaked the lead a little bit? Drmies (talk) 02:40, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like fun. Which section of the paper were you in?  You know my main man Wolfgang Puck has a place out there... He told me the desserts are shaped like the museum's sculptures.  I guess it's at or near some museum out there... ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:09, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes...I think so...don't remember...I think he has a little place in the Minneapolis airport, with a well-stocked bar (not open at 8 AM). Hey, I'm so out of it, been going through hundreds of Billboard chartings for Kronos Quartet discography. I'm such a dope, cause now I want to find all the listings for all their records (39 of them), and if you're not a Billboard.biz member you have to go through the entire list of hits for them. Phew. Well, I have ten pages in WordPerfect with numbers, and managed to add one to the article. Maybe I'll do one more and then throw in the towel. What you doing? Drmies (talk) 05:17, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Waiting for user:jimbo wales to respond to my comment regarding bacon mania and wikimania, which I only just now realized involve manias. Coincidence????  What does it all mean Mies, Dr.?  Me thinks it's time for bed.  I left a comment for you on my talk page too.  Shakespeare related.  To fry or to broil, that is the question... Time for bed. PEACE!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Unreal? See video. Also, you may find this discussion worthwhile . ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Utrecht School of Economics
Someone added this economics related Netherlandian subject. Should I redirect to Basic income? Please advise... ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, Ich don't think so, as Bruno might say. Hey, I've been doing a little template work on Bacon mania. It's looking better at AfD than I thought it might. I've made some really small changes that I hope you'll approve of. Hey, all that Billboard work, basically all for nothing! Drmies (talk) 03:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What happened with your billboard work (I had a feeling Kronos was a hoax...)? Are the billboards for Dutch Bros. Coffee?  Also a new article. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, should this Geleen Eaters be added to the Food and Drink project? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm no, I think deletion is the best option there. Check it out, here's the Dutch article. I looked it up because the name was really, really unclear. This explains the name (though I don't feel like translating right now, sorry) and there is a Canadian connection--maybe Kelapstick cares for it. Hey, haven't had bacon all day, though fortunately I did make some pulled pork in the slow cooker. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Why did they switch from eating Ruijters to Geleens? Health reasons?  Or are Geleens more bacony? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:35, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The question is really when they switched from Smoke Eaters to Ruijters, I think. "Geleen" was only added to the name by the author to conform to the American tradition of having a place name precede every name of every sports team. Hey, Kronos a hoax? 39 studio albums? (I own a couple of em.) As Rakim said, "I ain't no joke." Drmies (talk) 04:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Blue Lacy
You're welcome. I've just been using Undo to revert the editwarrior. Edward321 (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

input requested
Please take a look and advise: User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox/Bill Oberst Jr. Thank you.,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice tweaks. Kinda pleased no one felt a need for major sandblasting. :)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Again, you did good work, and congrats on the move to the mainspace. I'll see it at AfD, no doubt! ;) Drmies (talk) 18:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Raw?
You dare try to buy my vote with raw bacon? Gross! It's got to be cooked at least! I like it crispy.  LadyofShalott  Weave  03:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Bacon sushi. "If it doesn't kill you, it's very chewy." ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's disgusting! lol  LadyofShalott  Weave  03:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dear Lady, stay away from that Child. He's bad news. I was a good kid until I ran into him and his Dutch architecture fad. Oh, he didn't tell you about that, did he? Drmies (talk) 03:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

History of Alabama
Thanks for sprucing up the references to this article, which is in such a deplorable condition. In fact, the mere thought of this article, and the chore of improving it, is depressing to me as few other things about Wikipedia are. I mean, lousy articles about video games are one thing, but a mishmash article about the history of my own state feels like a constant rebuke to me as an editor. So if you're ever feeling ambitious about improving it, I'll back you up as best I can. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 16:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The place I intend to start is Alabama: The History of a Deep South State by William Warren Rogers et al. (ISBN 9780817307141). I'm headed for the library this afternoon; maybe I'll go check it out. Another good recent source is Alabama in the Twentieth Century by Wayne Flynt (ISBN 9780817352660). — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 17:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * What would you say to starting an alternate version in a sandbox? I just set up User:Alarob/Alahist — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 23:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Good. No hurry; it's not like we're on a deadline. — ℜob C. alias ᴀʟᴀʀoʙ 12:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Tarheels?
What do I win? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha! Eh, I don't know--Auburn lost, so I don't think you win everything at all. Maybe an edit war? I have a good reason to stay away from controversial articles... Drmies (talk) 17:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't think I win "everything" or anything? Are you feeling a bit tongue tied or are you drinking at work again?  I guess NC was that good. And how about those Mets!!!??? Who are you taking in the NBA playoffs?  Also, did you ever answer my inquiry about Pramoedya Ananta Toer?  I'm avoiding controversial topics too. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * By choice? Yes, NC was that good. I had the TV on while I was working on the Kronos discography (still--but it's almost done, I think) but the game never had my interest. They were a lock anyway, I think, once Louisville was taken out. Did you ever ask me about Toer? I just had a look, and I'll read one of his books. What was the question? Hey, did I tell you I met Neil Gaiman in Minneapolis? I just finished Neverwhere (novel) and it was a fun read. I'm also working on History of Alabama, which needs a lot of TLC. Are you totally done with the Los Angeles diners? Bacon Mania is still hanging on, it seems. Did you see the bribe I offered? Later! Drmies (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I just noticed Dravecky is from Alabama too. You guys are probably cousins. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Oh and it sounds like you had a good time up in MSP. I'm afraid I'm that familiar with Neil Gaiman, but I know someone who works for Marvel... Which of his works are you into? How did your play go? You needed me and MQS to really make it soaaAAAARRR!!! Did you say who you like in the NBA??? Oh yeah I think you said Lakers didn't you? Silly boy! ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Why can't I ever spell gluttonous right? I guess I have a thing for rice...???  Thanks for fattening up the refs.  You're the best! Party on. Oh, and why is it that the Gaiman related article are in need of some good copy editing??? Doesn't seem like a good sign. SPARTA!!!! or whatever. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I added a Dutch one. 'Tis not much, but still. Haha, you think notability is established? I'll see you at AfD! Yes, I am a Lakers fan, ever since (I've told you this before, I think) the Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Magic Johnson" (on Mother's Milk). For Gaiman, you should give Netherworld a try, or, if you're really ambitious, American Gods. Oh, the skit, pfff. It would have been great, but the actors showed up late--as I was told today, on purpose, as an act of sabotage. Ha! I'll show that one what my powers are, when she takes my class again this summer. Oh, Colbert is back on. Later! Drmies (talk) 03:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Kronos Quartet discography
You should close the peer review.  C  anniba loki  04:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Bacon Grill
I trust you can explain and will be providing a photo in short order (no pun intended). ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Boy, that looks pretty disgusting. I'd like to apologize on behalf of my people for producing such a product--though it seems we produce it for the Brits, so that's not so bad. Photo, no; copyedits, yes. Drmies (talk) 23:13, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Apology accepted. Dumping that stuff on the Brits is okay with me.  We did the same with Vegemite and the Aussies.  Can you believe this was removed ? ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:47, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice name you picked for your sock there! Well, I've been soapboxing for my own country, as in here. BTW, have you ever eaten Vegemite? It's brrrrrrr. Drmies (talk) 17:45, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * PS I'm in my office eating BBQ (homemade). Yesterday we had a feast out on the quad and Fat Boys, a BBQ outfit from Prattville, supplied ribs--they were very, very yummy. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Steak tacos for me. Si se puede. I think you missed your chance to get me banned... Better luck next time? By the way I am envious of the job you did covering bacon mania in the main bacon article. My rhetorical flourishes and sloppy writing style have not served the bacon cause well in the main bacon mania article. It's just a little hard to be encyclopedic about subjects that inspire such great passion. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm sounds good to. We ate three-bean chili, with parsley pesto (yes, straight out of Real Simple coz that's the kind of housewife I am). Thanks--I don't know exactly what for, though I think you're congratulating me on being a boring stick-in-the-mud. Hey, Bacon mania survived, and that's what counts--and that is truly your crowning achievement in this whole bacon series, sol congratulations! What do we do now? I've been working on Dutch rockers--Claw Boys Claw discography and Herman Brood (he is so profoundly the man...). It's cool, but it's just not bacon. Nothing is. Drmies (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no denying you did a great job working bacon mania into the main bacon article. Covering a subject with appropriate wording is what it's all about here. Sometimes the focus on cites causes a bit of a thrown together quality (and synthesis is of course discouraged) so there's quite a bit of skill involved in an accurate duly weighted and clear description. As far as crowning achievements, I have to say that with each new masterpiece I am convinced that no greater feat will ever be achieved. And yet, even after bacon mania, thisiswhyyourefat.com came along and brought a special joy that was no less magical than those that came before. Speaking of which, you and K-Stick sure work on some boring shit. Let me know when you're done.  :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * HA! Come on, they set fire to the electrical facilities!  That's pretty exciting.  When are you going for your RfA Child, I am waiting with baited breath to weigh in on it.  Top marks to the doctor, he did work some magic with the bacon mania article.  --kelapstick (talk) 00:31, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * HEY--is Shpritsz boring? You should listen to it! And really, I don't know what you guys are talking about--I hardly did anything on that article, just the American section in the bacon article. Heck, I didn't even finish my usual a-retentive work on the templates... Though I did have fun on that AfD, esp. with your comments, CoM. Drmies (talk) 00:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ummmm....My comment about CoM's RfA was a joke, I hadn't expected someone to nominate him an hour later....eerie--kelapstick (talk) 03:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In truth I am hesitant to pursue the nom because I would like to be in a position to nom or at least perhaps put some helpful weight (muscle?) behind some of the other good editors here, and I worry that ensuing drama might further discredit those who choose to associate with me. I already regret a bit that if I were to nom one of y'all, it might hurt your chances a bit and that some editors might be concerned you would side with me in conflicts and oppose you for that reason. This is sad because I know you guys would love nothing more than to see me blocked, and in fact I appreciate editors like you jokers the most, those I can count on to shoot straight and tell it like it is.  I have long known, for example, that if and when Drmies decides to add some tools to his repertoire that he will likely be the first one to block me (and how I haven't been blocked yet is in fact a bit of a mystery truth be told).  I can just see it happening, good old Drmies, enforcing the rules where others were welling to let my imperfections slide.  It might be the end a good friendship, but it will certainly make for great drama.  Et tu Brutus?  I'm not especially concerned with whether I am successful or not, and I certainly recognize the odds are long, but I don't want to drag anyone decent down with me. That's why I would never ask Tru to nom me. I'm not saying I don't think Doug is decent, but clearly he doesn't mind standing on principle whatever the outcome. :) Let's ride! Ahahahaha. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, rest assured--I have no intention whatsoever of seeking higher office. I was elected to be senator for Illinois for the full term, and I intend to...oh wait, never mind. I would like to be a straight shooter, and in many ways I do support you. I would like to ask, for instance, how you would handle edit conflicts with people who, apparently, hate the hell out of you...cause there's a couple, as I saw in recent threads. And we've rarely talked about this, I think, but yeah, we have some disagreements, and some of those are about WP matters (I think you're half-right in the Frank case, for instance, though I'd love to be able to support you wholeheartedly there). However, if it came to it, I would speak my mind on any of those discussions, and if you and your baconized weight drag me down (cause there's plenty of Wikidrama to go around, and some bad blood among your opponents in the Frank case), well, it'll probably be a fun ride anyway. And if truth be told, I think that you've not been blocked cause you're generally a very agreeable chap to work with and produce lots of fine content, and I think enough other editors see it that way also--though you do have a gift for antagonizing some folk, haha. BTW, what makes you think I'm decent?? K-stick, sure--he's the epitome of decency. He's a miner, for crying out loud. But I, you know, sir, am an English teacher: your natural, mortal enemy. Keep the faith! Drmies (talk) 04:48, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I can understand the hesitation, but I never worry about guilt by association.--kelapstick (talk) 06:13, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't care about that at all. Drmies (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Themis
Themis have resufaced once again, this time under the guise of Themis Band. Exactly the same terrible sourcing problems, no claims of notability that pass WP:MUSIC. Do they never get bored? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 11:01, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoa, thanks for alerting me to this. And that AfD is a big basket full of socks, and needs an injection of WP policy. G4 was a good beginning. Peace! Drmies (talk) 16:06, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Moose A. Moose
You have kid(s) right? Watch Noggin? Moose A. Moose just went live, always bothered me he didn't have a page...--kelapstick (talk) 03:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes! I did not know this moose, but he looks cute enough. I don't have that channel, and according to the main article that doesn't matter since they're soon off the air? I tried to do a little sourcing but could generate no hits for Moose A. Moose. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 03:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * He is still going strong, my boy loves him. Not many hits when I was looking, but the two I found are alright I suppose.--kelapstick (talk) 03:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I saw some pictures here, and that is a funny moose. I also found another article and a half and managed to add a sentence to the article. Still stubby, but those two references of yours were notability enough I think. Hey, here the kids are asleep--after one of them managed to wee all over our bed. I got laundry to do, haha! Drmies (talk) 04:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice work, no chance of expansion to 1500 characters for a DYK though, sadly I don't think there is much room for expansion...and I will believe you when you blame that on the kids, don't know about CoM though--kelapstick (talk) 06:11, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's really funny. You of all people should know what this is like--especially since yours has a specially designed spray hose. But it's a beautiful day here and laundry dries in half an hour, in the sun and the wind. We just went out for ice cream, but my wife was not happy with the lemon curd ice cream she got, and now I'm inspired to make lemon ice cream, Emeril's recipe. I'd like to expand Moose A. Moose a bit but I couldn't find anything else, and to expand it (it needs to triple in size) using that "connected learning" as a crutch seems a bit of a stretch. But a Moose as an on-air teacher, that has "good hook" written all over it. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If you have an ice cream recipe that is caesen (sp?) free I would be all over that...--kelapstick (talk) 02:48, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't know about that. I have some lemon custard in the fridge that will be turned into ice cream today, but I'll have to look into that. I'm going to moose around for a bit, procrastinating on my 'real' work for today. Drmies (talk) 15:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Hammond AfD
* smiles * I have no objection _at all_ to the picture, but we don't want to give the impression that AfD is anything other than a serious process, do we? ;) Tevildo (talk) 20:46, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't feel too bad. I considered doing something very similar. o) -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 00:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, I think Tevildo found a nice surprise (three of em) on their talk page. Drmies (talk) 03:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Which was much appreciated. :) It can stay there as a permanent record, I think. :) Tevildo (talk) 06:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I did some adding and cleanup on the article. If you folks wouldn't mind taking a second look, I'd appreciate it. -- Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff) 21:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Gail Dinter-Gottlieb
Pretty obvious sockpuppetry--in fact, I was thisclose to G3ing the AfD. Get a load--one of the IPs created the AfD on April 8. And a new account with no edits just "happens" to finally create it? Um, no. Indefblocked. Can't do anything about the IPs though--none of them have touched it since April 8. Blueboy96 21:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

this is why you're fat you pig. Put down that bacon.
Hey Drmies. I'm going to post this User talk:Jessamason COI on the noticeboard, but I also wanted to mention it here and on user:PMDrive1061's page so you gentlemen can help me keep an eye out. I've got my hands a little full at the moment. Party on. And feel free to swap recipes with Jessa. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. Hey, I grilled bacon yesterday--it was delicious. Have you accepted that AfD yet? Haven't checked yet--been out, at a Hall & Oates show--yes! Later, Drmies (talk) 03:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks man. I'm going to see if I can make it outside today. It's a crazy world out there, cross your fingers for me! ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * How was Hall & Oates? I've washed off some of the mud, but I can't seem to get rid of the stink... ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

 * (Regarding the thread below this one) What does any of this have to do with bacon? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Read on, and your question shall be answered. Drmies (talk) 17:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:User_talk:Marcusmax
No offense, but this shows very little familiarity with the situation. I have taken a very consistant line that those articles which I can demonstrate meet the standards of WP:N should be kept, and not commented where I am not able to demonstrate this (in general, I do not think my inability to quickly show notability necessarily means that it does not exist, especially where both countries are not English-speaking). There are, however, editors who've argued that being the focus of four academic conferences (so the subject of ~100 academic journal articles), as well as a cornucopia of other sources from newspapers, magazines, et cetera, is still "non-notable". While "inherently nonnotable" may be a paraphrase, it accurately sums up the argument where the notability exceeds the usual inclusion standard by orders of magnitude and people are still arguing delete. So far as I have seen, only fairly borderline cases have closed as delete, and those that blow WP:N out of the water have been closed as "no consensus" and "keep", though that doesn't change the reality that some accounts are arguing "delete" based on a general "IDONTLIKEIT" of bilateral relations. Wily D 14:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the note, but "inherently non-notable" is not a paraphrase; it's your interpretation of what you perceive to be some editors' dislike of bilateral relations. Why you'd think that anyone would hate on bilateral relations so much is a mystery to me--I am not aware of any conspiracy that aims to delete those articles.
 * Now, if there were four academic conferences and 100 articles (no matter what language! "not in English" is a red herring) and all that, why aren't those referenced in the article? Are you saying Marcusmax did not do a good job? If you know of that plethora of sources, feel free to insert them and maybe I'll change my mind--but so far, I don't see any proof for your outlandish accusations. Now, I could ask the original creator of this article, but unfortunately, this is what I read on their talk page: "This user has a limited grasp of English and does not respond to talk!" So, the creator doesn't talk, you don't insert those 100+ references, what else am I going to think but non-notability if I cannot find those sources myself? Drmies (talk) 15:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If I could have my say, this seriously misrepresents the situation. WilyD is referring to comments by me and others at Articles for deletion/Austria–Egypt relations. He happened to find references to scholarly works that apparently (apparently, since none of us have access to the full text or can cite it, and it's in German anyway) discuss something to do with the Austrian Empire and its activities in Ottoman-occupied Egypt in the 19th century. I absolutely do question what relevance that has for relations between the modern-day Republic of Austria and the modern-day Republic of Egypt, but this notion that I or anyone else is out to delete all bilateral relations articles, is, as I have said half a dozen times, flatly false. And I'm tired of repeating it; this seems to be a case of WP:ICANTHEARYOU. - Biruitorul Talk 15:23, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to have your say here. I'm always interested in a good conspiracy theory. If WilyD finds these sources, let them bring them into the article. They don't need to be in English or full-text accessible, of course, though that would help. But I don't see that happening right now. Drmies (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Err, work in progress, though our wires may be crossed here. There's a wide-running dispute over bilateral relations, with them being indiscriminately (and possibly also discriminately, who knows?) PRODed, tagged for speedy deletion and AFD'd. There are a handful of accounts that have been prodding and dbing, including very notable pairs, and AFDing, including very notable pairs, and arguing delee regardless of the sources discussed at AFD. The example I'm discussing, Austria-Egypt, has been the subject of at least four conferences on their historic bilateral relations, not Australia Uruguay. After those sources have been paraded, when editors were not able to not find them, a couple of the accounts in the dispute still argued delete. The point is not that they're unable to find the sources, but that even after the sources are given to them they're still denying the sources exist (or denying that multiple academic conferences on the subject is sufficient to satisfy WP:N, or whatnot). Australia - Uruguay is probably not very probative, I wouldn't think too hard on it. Look at the AFDs for Austria - Egypt, or Chile - United States, or, say, the db-A3ing of Japan-Venezuela, or ... list goes on, anyhow.  I do not think I have really advocated a "conspiracy", though of course it's a better way to discredit me than spurious sockpuppet accusations, which have been tried unsuccessfully, for instance. Wily D  15:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Would it kill you to refer to us as "editors" or at least "users"? And another thing: "finding sources" is not the same as writing an article. It's nice that you've turned Thailand–Ukraine relations into a linkfarm, but that won't stop someone from re-nominating if those can't be turned into prose: not today or tomorrow, but in half a year's time, why not? After all, we're a prose encyclopedia, not a news portal. Similarly, if you can't demonstrate those academic conferences can actually be cited and converted into narrative prose at the Austria-Egypt article, that article too is left vulnerable at some future date. - Biruitorul Talk 15:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * WilyD, I have never accused you of being a sockpuppet. If there are editors, or groups of editors, who are interested in keeping a close tab on the creation of these X-Y relations articles, fine. I try to keep a close tab on death metal bands myself, but that does not make me a hater of death metal (articles). What bothers me here is the tone and the word choice; again, the note that a bunch of editors have some sort of "inherent non-notability" idea rubs me the wrong way. I've been in AfD discussions where I "lost," but I don't think it's because the nay-sayers (or aye-sayers, as the case may be) have no idea at all about WP:N. That sort of accusation is not productive. And the wholesale generation of stubs, I don't care for that either. I think it's much better to have something prepared that's ready to go to mainspace, references and notability established and all, than to have to go through all this every time--which gives rise to things like User_talk:DGG and an AN/I review, Deletion_review. Why create and create when it generates so much aggravation? Why not make one at the time, with all the references in the article? Wily, you have a lot on your plate, so why add more? Drmies (talk) 15:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to imply that you had accused me of being a sockpuppet (I would have to go double-check the complaints to know for sure who filed them. I've made unconvincing arguments at AFD, made decent arguments that people have found unconvincing - this isn't surprising.  I do not think it's a secret that I tend towards an "inclusionist" philosophy.  I am not even complaining here about AFDs I've "lost", but that in those I've "won" there's been sketchy behaviour.  It may "rub you the wrong way", but it's the most accurate description I can come up with, and probably the most charitable.  I wouldn't call it an "accusation" at all, it's just the clearest descriptor I can devise.
 * For what it's worth, I don't think I've created a single article on bilateral relations. Articles I personally create enter the namespace is pretty decent shape (for instance, the last article I put into the mainspace looked like this after one edit, basically only missing categories, which showed up two minutes later, and went through DYK without any substantive complaints).  Yeah, it sucks that all my effort has to go into maintanence now, rather than being able to work on improving articles, but that is what it is.  When (if) the question for the deletion of all is over, I intend to move on to expanding (assuming I'm not broken down by then, we'll see, of course, but I can be fearsome stubborn).  But for the time being, I just don't have the time.  I have actually expanded one or two substantially from AFDs, but they're just too fast and too furious right now for that to be plausible.  I'd prefer it if they all came into the world full grown, but we don't all give birth like we're Zeus, and I'd rather fix inexperienced users missteps than keep my teeth sharp.
 * And really, I don't really want to put much effort into the articles until they've survived at least one AFD - why would I want to write an article knowing someone will try to delete it, and that they have a decent chance of success?  Even after one AFD, I can be pretty sure more are in the planning stages (as alluded to above).  Historically I've held back from any article I didn't feel comfortable I could defend successfully at AFD, and here I certainly couldn't feel comfortable, given the history.  Wily D  16:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have looked closer before making a general statement--I should not have implied that you also fabricate these stubs. I know HilaryT is doing it, for instance, and so are others. Tremendous amounts of work and energy are involved in the discussion of these articles (often more so than in the creation, I think), and a lot of the X-Y relations articles take up way too much of all kinds of bandwidth. The Toronto bookstore article, that's how it should be done. I try to do the same--I'm working on a whole slew of articles like this one, Shpritsz, and put them up when they are reasonably finished. But it's like you, and then I and others as well, including Marcusmax, are dragged into the rescue efforts (or deletion discussion, and reviews thereof, etc.) of articles that shouldn't have been dumped into the mainspace to begin with, not in the condition they're often in. Hey, I have nothing against relations, I think relations are great, and I promise you that when I do vote on 'em at AfD I will try to be fair. In the meantime, join me for a cup of tea, and we'll have some chocolate covered bacon to go with it. Ask Marcus too, if you like. Drmies (talk)
 * HilaryT appears to be enormously inexperienced. And she's being taught to swim by being thrown into the deep end with the sharks.  I've tried to offer some counsel, but I suspect it may be insufficient.  She is improving, though, This is her latest attempt, which looked like this within a few minutes, and while it's certainly not ideal, she has gotten that articles should be sourced, that facts should be sourced use of some templates.  She didn't know any of these things when she first signed up a couple weeks ago. Maybe not when it's appropriate to wikilink or whatnot, but one can only learn so fast.  This is probably more pressing.  In Hilary's case, if people keep working with her, I am sure she can produce even better things off the bat (assuming she is not yet totally alienated, we'll see).  Wily D  17:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * She could start by being civil... Drmies (talk) 23:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like Hilary may need to be adopted, so she can learn the ropes some more and have a guide in helping her right new articles. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 00:16, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably, and I've said something to that effect, but expecting new users to grok CIVIL, especially when they're receiving very rough handling, is not always realistic. If someone adopted here, and she accepted it, it might well be good.  May be too alienated, though.  Wily D  00:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment - All editors who have been involved in this discussion might want to check out a similar Afd, Articles for deletion/Canada–Kazakhstan relations which I have tried to expand. Thanks to you all for your commitment to looking into these articles and helping to establish notability or establish reasons as to why they should be deleted. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 23:37, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

I just replied at the discussion too, but yes, it's no problem. As you may have noticed, it's more difficult to convey subtle emotion across a screen than when speaking directly to someone, or even on the telephone. - Biruitorul Talk 00:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Pluralizations
From the Moose A. Moose DYK conversation... --kelapstick (talk) 15:44, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Moose→Moose
 * Deer→Deer
 * Fish→Fish
 * Mouse→Mice
 * Buffalo→Buffali?
 * Also we stopped at Erick Schat’s Bakkerÿ (a Dutch bakery, but I couldn't find any reference for that) in Bishop, California on the way there and the way back, excellent sandwiches.
 * The spelling gives it away. The diacritical mark as you have it looks funny in English, but look at their logo--it seems like a cursive 'ij' and that's really what it is, not a semivowel. I should know; my last name ends in 'ij', haha. I was about to change the title when I saw their logo. I made a redirect for the regular 'ij' also and will (later) add a note to the article. Drmies (talk) 18:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The sign at the bakery actually has the y (I think).--kelapstick (talk) 18:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Need help with Afd
Hi Drmies, I have not yet got the chance to thank you for your additional help on Australia-Uruguay relations so thank you very much. I need some help deciphering Albania–Serbia relations I began re-writing the article and suddenly realized that this topic is very, very complex. I was wondering if you have any thoughts on a general format, and if you think the article is even notable. Thanks - Marcusmax ( speak ) 23:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Relations with Moldova
Not good at all. Need to be stepped up ASAP. Thank you. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know! They're terrible! But I'm too caught up in Belarus. Then again, Moldavia is not always a happy place--check this out, by Belgian act Front 242. Thank you for your interest. Have you accepted the admin nomination yet? Drmies (talk) 14:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That song is fairly awesome. I also like the Eurovision We Don't Want to Put In... song that became controversial. I'm trying to wrap up various thingamajiggies before the RfA windmill chase. Doing the O-Arb evidence took a long time and wasn't fun at all. I suspect the outcome will result in my being topic banned or something like that, which seems a bit unjust, but such is life. Maybe I'll see if I can work on some of my RfA questions today. I'm also following the debate on a disambiguation type page for Obama articles that I created. I'm being accused of maliciously and surreptitiously attempting to aid readers in finding article subjects they want to read about. And of course I have a dream for an article on the criticisms and controversies, so the fun is just beginning, but we'll see. It's one nefarious conspiracy on my part after another. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Diaboli
150px|thumb|Better give references for those articles! A new editor posted Diaboli this morning as a copyedit from the band's website. I was going to ignore it, but was bored so rewrote it from scratch. Let me know if you think there are any major problems with the current version. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You should really consider writing on your dissertation. 17:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't make me laugh bitterly. You have no idea how fucked my thesis is right now :-) Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, sounds like a fun band! The article looks pretty good by black/death metal standards, haha, given the difficulty of finding (somewhat) reliable sources, and I think you have really mastered the encyclopedic tone (though, as you know, I strenuously object to using the word "vocalist" and to putting punctuation outside quotation marks...). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:41, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't know about the vocalist thing actually... do you prefer "singer"? Also, what punctuation problem are you referring to? Sourcing these things is a pain the neck. It's somewhat depressing that Diaboli is currently better sourced than, say, Marduk. I keep meaning to take a break from metal articles; I quite fancy attacking the articles for actors that played 60s Batman villains just for a bit of a change. Incidentally, I also created a page for Bestial Mockery but haven't written a biog yet... feel free to have a look. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you know I'm listening to Killers as I'm reading this?
 * What I mean is "quoting like this," where in the US we put the comma inside the quotation marks. And yes, I prefer "singer," since I think "vocalist" sounds pedantic--"Hey, Paul, why are you no longer the vocalist for Iron Maiden?" But that's just me, I guess. Drmies (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Going viral
What do you make of YouTube fame and the related discussion on the talk page. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:49, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone beat you to it
. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:42, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, that dude is cool--and stinky, no doubt. Dinner tonight was Spaghetti with meatballs--very tasty! Later, Drmies (talk) 23:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My second grade teacher and John Madden made public their retirement plans today. The times they are a changing. Can't someone ease Tony Kornheiser into retirement?  ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:36, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, the Veldhoven Formation is rock solid, or so I'm told. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw, it needed a bit of work. Thanks for pointing that out to me. Drmies (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Meaning
Please revisit the discussion. Uncle G (talk) 11:10, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

centralized disscusion open
This might be of some use regarding the x-y articles, Centralized discussion/Bilateral international relations. - Marcusmax ( speak ) 00:16, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Details shmetails?
I hate to be a stickler for details here champ, but your Freeze (album) article starts out with Hooks something. Wassup? I called in the Dutch special forces at AfD by the way, but they were MIA. Maybe I'll try Canada next time? Actually Kelapstick weighed in with some kind neutral move suggestion. How typical, aye ? ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Canadian equivalent to "American as apple pie" is "As Canadian as possible, under the circumstances". My vote was a keep, but to move it to generic, what is neutral about that?  And it is spelled "Eh?" not "aye?" we aren't all pirates.--kelapstick (talk) 04:39, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You know damn well that pointing out my mistake instead of fixing it is totally inappropriate. Please don't do anything like this again. :) And by the way your Mom is so fat... Okay, now I'm REALLY going to get in trouble... ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:21, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh and your vote is to move not to keep, but we all make mistakes. I would fix it for you, but I don't want you to assume bad faith and make a series of snide comments and personal attacks against me on my talk page, before inviting your buddies to join in, and then filing ANI reports against me for disruption. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Move and keep are the same thing, sort of...besides who would I get to come after you? You would have to start attacking yourself, and that brings in a whole new unwritten policy.--kelapstick (talk) 17:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ninja miners? ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:34, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Which one is serious?

 * Delete since I agree with the lady, though I have to protest CoM's blatant attempt at POV-pushing here, riding his well-known hobby-horses of WP:N and, pfff, WP:RS.

ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete this, originally created in bad faith with the misleading claim it was a disambiguation page, still redundant at best to the categories, likely to become a coat-rack for POV pushers like CoM (the creator) to make claims for what is or is not "related" to Obama.

Also:


 * ChildofMidnight is twisting this to get support for his pointless, policy-violating, category-reinventing, template-reinventing, self-referencing coatracky listcruft.

This was shortly after I was called a racist. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:16, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...I would apologize on behalf of my fellow editors, but that would make me too similar to people who spout such nonsense. Drmies (talk) 18:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Rephormula
Hi Drmies, this article that you have voted to keep, needs a minor help from you. Take a look in the whole stuff, and mainly the lead section, that I started to expand, since I'll put it into a good article nomination. Any question just ask! "Trunks," (with no meaning)  C  anniba loki  05:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've tweaked a bit. Any news about the Kronos discography? There doesn't seem to be much action on that topic... Drmies (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Acording with the FLC demigods, you will have to change the table's format.--  C  anniba loki  18:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:Armenia-Vietnam
Thank you, especially for the barnstar, which I truly appreciate. I'm glad to see you signed up at the WikiProject, and hope that will prove a useful outlet for some of the tensions that have (quite needlessly) built up. Also (especially since you're Dutch), I would think this will interest you - I'm not sure how you'll vote, but I'm quite sure your contribution will be a thoughtful one. - Biruitorul Talk 19:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Biruitorul; I appreciate you letting me know. While I looked at the AfD I managed to learn a few things about my own country. ;) Drmies (talk) 19:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Rats! Now the nomination is sinking faster than an Antilles-registered ship hijacked by Somali pirates and torpedoed by the US Navy! :p - Biruitorul Talk 19:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, consider this, even if you get prosecuted in the Netherlands you will never get more than a slap on the wrist. The Dutch Navy already let go of nine pirates they caught the other day because they didn't know what to do with them, legally that is. Hey, thanks again for letting me know! Drmies (talk) 20:10, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I do need someone to mediate this silly dispute - I think the dates add value, and the fact no one else has them is reason to add them in elsewhere, not remove them from here. But I'll wait for your opinion on this. - Biruitorul Talk 15:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kronos Quartet discography
An article that you have been involved in editing, Kronos Quartet discography, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

You missed the one where I said, "I object to this comment because it implies I have faults." ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't miss that one! But there was nothing I could add to it, and, ahem, there was no fault in you that I could find that I could use to deny that statement. (Keep that in mind when you become admin!) Now, when do we start editing fun things again? While you were AfDing the discography, I was redoing the table per discography MOS--it took me an hour and a half to do the big one, with forty entries. What a sucky job. You having fun yet? I'm procrastinating--I have a dozen more papers to grade tonight, and the Lakers aren't even playing (I think). Oh, and Tony Almeida--I'm still upset about that. Drmies (talk) 02:35, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Round trip to Minnesota?
When is the cereal going to be revealed? Also, if you're headed back that way in August, could you stop by the Stone Creek Potluck & Music Jamboree, and? They are "vying for The Guinness Book World's Largest Pot-Luck so bring a dish to pass & a chair to relax". It may also set a record for the most Minnesota nice. A friend informs me it offers one of the largest hotdish assemblages known to humankind (but I had no idea that they were going for a WORLD RECORD until I read that just now). I expect there will be plenty of glorified rice, cookie salad, pistachio salad, lefse and dessert bars, and we can use some good original research and photographs for these important article subjects. What are you going to bring?ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:29, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I forgot to mention that the event also includes Bobby Bare & The Chmieleski Fun Time Polka Band and "Much, Much, More". Best let the Jorgensons know you're coming. Uff da. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Here's one more link with some of the event's history. And I see there's a "day of freedom" icon, which is always a good sign. No alcohol though... but it's near Benson, Minnesota, where some fine hard liquor comes out of the ethanol plant. God bless. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You know what, I'll get right on it when I'm done tinkering with Kronos, before it gets deleted. Hey, you should get yourself one of their CDs; they're really amazing. Back in a bit, Drmies (talk) 19:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget the lutefisk. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like there's already an article on the event: Stone Creek Jamboree. I should have checked I guess. "All you need to bring is a dish to pass and a lawn chair". Mies, Dr.'s barbecue and bacon explosion will really SHAKE THINGS UP. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * "Looks like"? Well, yeh, since you wrote it. If the deletionists catch wind of this, it will be gone in a hot-dish minute. Meanwhile, are they serving lutefisk??? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, no bacon explosion, but I am making a lemon poppyseed cake as we speak. Oh yeah. CoM, you are faster than your own shadow. But while you were potlucking for people with funny accents (though I didn't hear much of it when I was there), I was expanding the absolutely necessary discography of Herman Brood: see My Way. Bugs, while your lutefisk is soaking in milk (isn't that how they do it?), maybe you can help out and find out who all the musicians were on the 24 songs and add that to the article? Thanks, you're a champ! Drmies (talk) 02:26, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Straight lutefisk is fine, and I don't like milk anyway. I could work on that musicians list, if you could find evidence of the article subject's notability. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * CoM, that's a DYK waiting to happen. Of course, it would be nice if you could get a picture--you have four days to get there. Drmies (talk) 02:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Let's see if he gets there before the article is speedy-deleted. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:39, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Who would do such a thing? Deleting a potluck festival--potluck is as American as apple pie, or baseball! Drmies (talk) 03:00, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A deletionist would. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Alright--I won't tell if you won't! And I'll bring a dish, maybe even a lemon poppyseed cake, if I can manage to make one and not destroy it immediately. Drmies (talk) 04:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good. I'll bring some bars. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:17, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Take care with that poppyseed cake, though. They have very strict drug laws in Minnesota, and eating too many poppyseeds can give a false positive for opiates. Something to keep in mind in case you get pulled over for a random search and drug test. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Moose A. Moose

 * Well done! --kelapstick (talk) 21:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks--I just took the stub and ran. BTW, I saw that heap of baseball AfDs--good luck with that! Drmies (talk) 21:22, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I kind of fell into that when I was new page patrolling...We shall see what happens, there is some ambiguity as to if minor players are notable enough just for being minor league players, and there is little agreement between WP:Baseball, to top it all off, one editor was mass creating articles, so I and others started sorting them, not sure where it is going, I am going to let the first 22 AfDs pan out, but I am sure that those who do not meet the GNG or some other iteration that is baseball specific are going to merge/redirect, as will many of the other on the list. I am keeping low profile this week, swamped at the office but at least I have Definitely Not the Opera and The Vinyl Cafe podcasts.  On the bright side my visa renewal was approved so I am legal here for at least another three years.--kelapstick (talk) 21:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey congrats; I know that's a big deal. Maybe I need to check the expiration date on my documents also (I'll not name them, cause CoM might have them speedy deleted). So, you all had a good time in Legoland? My three-year old now wants to go camping, from watching "Olivia goes camping," no doubt. Oh, I don't know if I told you this, but Charlie and Lola is the greatest TV show in the world, for young and old. Drmies (talk) 23:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Legoland was great, although the boy was a little short for the rides (most have to be over 34 in), but we had a great time anyway. We  have all the Olivias on our DVR, the books are great too.  I haven't heard of Charlie and Lola, I will have to look, I like The Backyardigans, the Canadian Content might be part of it.--kelapstick (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Important update
The potluck gamesmanship is more intense than I first realized, and there are religious overtones. It seems from this post that the city of Columbus, Ohio is going to weigh in with its own effort in October. This means that the Mennonite v. Lutheran/ Ohio v. Minnesota comfort food struggle has been joined by the big city Methodists. I'm not sure how it's all going to work out, but I hope everyone will stay safe. Potluck probably isn't worth dying over. My money is on the Minnesotans (especially since the other groups don't seem to know they hold the record and are shooting for only 600 psssh potluck dishes). ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:04, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, I'd like the local Baptist church to see this. I appreciate your delving into this matter; not enough research has been conducted on the characteristics of intra-state, intra-religious competitions as expressed in communal events. Listen, while I have you, man those kids have been messing up the poppy seed article. I did some cleaning--do you know where that bird seed shit comes from? (My apologies if that's your work...) Utterly unsourced, and I have a sentimental connection to the article. Our first cooperation... So, the lemon poppyseed cake is absolutely delicious. Unfortunately it stuck to the pan a bit and fell apart, so I put the chunks on a plate, poured the icing over it, and grabbed a fork. Yumm-o! Drmies (talk) 04:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's a story on the Methodist potluck record attempt . It was last October, and scored a mere 379 potluck dishes. They seem unaware of the Minnesota milestone. Maybe that's a good thing, they might lose all hope.
 * I'm finding some other attempts as well: the Columbus event, Vermont , Arlington Texas . So I'll report back if there's anything major. One event was sponsored by Promise spread. Once corporate involvement is stepped up things could really get ugly! And I'm not sure that hotdishes made with margarine should even count... but then, as you know, I've always been a purist and a stickler for the rules.
 * I'm glad you're enjoying your lemon poppyseed cake. They have some good mohnstreizel or mohnstrudel (maybe both?) at the farmer's market out here in LA by the Price is Right studio. Let me know when you're going to be in town. I think feeding poppy seed to birds sounds dubious, but there are some google book sources for it. Thistle seed yes, but poppy seed? Just take it out. Did you see the lemon poppy seed clif bar was chosen the best tasting??? Thank goodness for Wikipedia so we can find these things out. KNOWLEDGE!!! ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Mbhiii sock investigation
Your comments might be useful at Sockpuppet_investigations/Mbhiii. Dicklyon (talk) 03:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Grade A work
How did your estudiantes do on their tests? And how are your girls? And the Mrs.? I haven't heard an update in a while. On a sadder note, I think turbaconducken probably belongs in the turducken article, even though giving it an article of its own would be best for cabal. We seem to have silenced the This is why you're fat lady. And finally, I'm planning to work on egomaniac tomorrow if you want a piece... ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Semester's almost over, so every single one of them filed into my office to have me help with their papers. They're doing alright, though one of my classes is the worst I had in a while. The girls are fine, thanks, and my wife won't lose her job after all... Who is the fat lady? I don't know about egomaniac--I'm working on a few things myself, Dutch rock and roll and mountains of course... Drmies (talk) 14:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dem peeps was da creators of dis why youze fat. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, now I remember. I checked in on the article once or twice while you were out gallivanting, and nothing happened. Drmies (talk) 16:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A tribute to your vigilance. Imagine what might have happened if you hadn't been on patrol! ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 April 23#Jorge Ferreira wkpd2.jpg
Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, Drmies! Cheers! The Ogre (talk) 12:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Copyediting question
Is spelt used appropriately here: "Chausath Khamba, also spelt Chaunsath Khamba, is a tomb..."? Should it be also spelled? Is this some British innovation? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC) Also, the opening sentence(s) for Anti-partisan operations in World War II has a lot of parentheses in case you want to take a whack at it. Maybe it needs more semicolons and commas? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC) Oh and, have you ever been Pig pickin'? ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:44, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nonono that's wrong--there's only one spelt, and that's a (tasty) grain.
 * Oh, I'm not going there. That's a real sentence in a real article--I'd rather stay on the lighter side of things. But thanks!
 * Ha, no, and I'd like to. I've heard of the engineering fraternity at Alabama cooking a whole pig in a pit as an annual event. I'm sure it tastes good. Are you expanding from bacon? Drmies (talk) 20:32, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

What is the reference to a "stash of Northern Cali" about and what does it have to do with Youtube? Bacon has never been my sole interest Dr. :) I hope I'm not in trouble for my drinking comments. I will never joke again. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe you are still working on Kronos discography. No wonder you have to drink... :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 01:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you see the FL discussion, Featured list candidates/Kronos Quartet discography/archive1? It might not become a FL because some there want periods removed at the end of sentence fragments, and there are other "grammatical" issues (they're not grammatical). Well. I wasn't looking to move up in the ranks anyway. But hey, have you ever seen a discography with 71 references? Ha! And I would like a beer, but I got some coffee here. Cheers! Drmies (talk) 01:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What is this FL thing you keep referring to? All I can think of is Flordia. I want to move there by the way.  Good BBQ and plenty of sunshine. It's too cold for me here. Thanks for clearing up the spelt issue. There was one other grammatical question I had, someone was using a comma to seperate adjectives. Can you say the "valuable, rare iridescent pearl"? It was something like that. But I'm pretty sure you need three things and a conjunction to use commes (what's your opinion on commas before the and by the way?) or you have to say "valuable and rare iridescent pearl" for just two. Am I right? Am I right??? What do I win??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * ??? FL = Featured List. That pearl, the rule basically is this: if you can place the word "and" there, you should have a comma--so in this case, yes. "Three things and a conjunction," that refers to what we ("we" in the liberal arts) call the serial comma. Oh yeah, I looked at that the other day--the examples of ambiguity contain Ayn Rand, haha. Drmies (talk) 02:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I was with you through the word List in the first section.

Which is correct:
 * The handsome tall man.
 * The handsome and tall man.
 * The handsome, tall man.

What did you have for dinner? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fred likes going to the store for pork, going to the butcher for ribs and going to Texas for sweet potato fries.
 * Fred likes going to the store for pork, going to the butcher for ribs, and going to Texas for sweet potato fries.


 * It's "the handsome, tall man" (usually, at least-"and" is acceptable but wordy); and Fred, I believe in the serial comma, so for me the second option. For dinner (don't hate me) I had tempura and soba... delicious! You? Oh, I'm watching the Lakers again! Woohoo! Drmies (talk) 02:49, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Steak soft tacos, California ruby red grapefruit, and now chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream. Sorry to show you up once again. :O Only joshing. I like tempura and soba. Yummo.  There a good place here $10 for the super combo... ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm confident, that you are, an expert on this, assuming, it's notable, Razakel. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Yeah, that's complete BS. Drmies (talk) 04:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I made you a special cake!!!
Bon apetit! ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Awwww...I'm speechless... Drmies (talk) 18:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Gravius
One of yours. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:20, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

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Miniature Schnauzer (insult)
The CSD category you wanted was G10 - that's for blatant attacks. Lady of  Shalott  04:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

A friend of yours?
Yet more evidence of bacon mania:. Thanks for your wonderful description of the video of that thing on top of the mountain. You're like Wikipedia's Warren Miller. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, thanks. Seriously--it's a great video. Not worth buying an Apple for maybe, but still--do and upgrade! The bacon dude is no friend of mine. Oh, I redirected Baconnaise again, but perhaps it's restored a second time. Drmies (talk) 04:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Whole drawer of socks killed off
Five accounts blocked for sockpuppeting... based upon the ones you reported and brought to ANI and that I commented on. I'm not sure if they just checked every account named as a possibility by us on the ANI thread or is a checkuser that happened to overlap one of those accounts on another article that had unrelated socks just turned that whole list up accidentally and confirmed what we suspected all along. Either way, that's great. DreamGuy (talk) 01:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Blood of Angels and Nox Arcana
I understand the need to be encyclopedic, but there's that and there's boring. You prickle at the use of descriptive statements, and you actually seem to dislike this genre of music. If you think something needs cited, please do not remove it altogether, consider placing a [cite] tag. Thanks. Ebonyskye (talk) 06:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, only because I object to the unverified use of the word "ethereal" to describe something in an encyclopedia? I offered "dull" as yet another unverified term, and you jump to the conclusion that I "dislike this genre of music"? Well, if you think that following guidelines is boring, then by the same logic you hate encyclopedias. You know, encyclopedia articles don't have to be boring, and things made up out of whole cloth that attempt to sound interesting are not only boring, but also pedantic. You should consider pouring your poetic output into a blog somewhere. I wish you good luck in your new career. Drmies (talk) 14:20, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Be nice Dr. Can't you follow my example of extraordinary civility at all times? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Sexism
It amazes me where people inject sexism, racism, ageism etc... into the debate. If you were involved from the beginning of the debate, "gentlemen" and I used that word loosely were involved in personal biases that I simply called out. No one to date has analyzed or objectively responded to what bias were listed, what they objected to that was non factual and what was not newsworthy. Instead, I read total poppycock from self-described "gentlemen" that I was debating and asking for rebuttal ad cold facts. I simply asked them to state what was biased, what didn't reflect wiki's policy etc... All I received were arguments that never once addressed the topic or question nor answered even one rebuttal.

I also see where someone said only "industry publications" were used to cite when there are publications from Pravda, the AP, MSNBC, CNBC, New york Times, Wall Street Journal, and the Associated Press were listed. Come on guys, let's get a mitt on this one. The so-called editors were simply individual with personal views and bias' of their own that did not conform to the stated facts in which they could not offer even on iota of evidence to rebut. Read the article, do the fact checking as I and others have done, and then, determine for yourself, what is and is not factual and how many MEN killed what I thought was a fine article on a fine company.

So be it, I have better things to do with my time!

KrissyPope (talk) 08:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Equating all WP editors with "guys" and addressing them all as "gentlemen" is sexist--you addressed that into the debate on your quickly deleted article--what was it? about some sports publicity agency? full of spam, without a single meaningful reference? That you removed maintenance templates from? Of course you thought it was a great article, and of course it was brutally killed by a bunch of (women?) editors who can't recognize a great article when it bites them and probably don't understand sports, haha. And I also had better things to do with my time, which is why I didn't address all your specific point in the verbose rant in Articles for deletion/Sports Marketing Group. Good day sir! Drmies (talk) 14:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Extreme Noise Terror
I've just started a comprehensive overhaul of the ENT page. For a change there are actually loads of sources, so I'm just trying to build a basic skeleton at the moment. Any help (as always!) very much appreciated. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 23:33, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Holy moly Baz, that's not a skeleton--very impressive. I looked over it and don't really see what kind of help I can be... I made a few tiny little edits. Oh, after comparison with the earlier stub--nice work! Drmies (talk) 01:56, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * First draft done. It probably needs a "Style" section or something, some pictures, maybe some sound samples and some more paper sources, but I'm basically quite pleased. I think I definitely deserve a beer now :) Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Recipe
I don't think it's notable, but will you try out this Lutheran recipe for "Korean salad" from Minnesota? Okay you take 2 large bunches of spinach, 4 hard boiled eggs (sliced), bean sprouts (canned is fine), can of sliced water chestnuts, 8 slices cooked bacon crumbled, cherry tomatoes. The dressing is 1/4 cup sugar, 1/3 cup ketchup, and 1/4 cup vinegar, 2 teaspoons worcestershire sauce, a medium onion grated and 1 cup of salad dressing (I assume italian but it just says salad dressing so use your judgement...). If you can't get spinach, I'm willing to let you substitute romaine lettuce. Let me know how this turns out. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, this sounds really interesting. Let me work through the $180 I spend on groceries yesterday, and I'll get back to you. Mrs. Drmies does like salads, esp. if they don't involve mayonnaise (she's a racist--she hates white foods, but not whipping cream or sour cream...). BTW, please don't worry about the message below--it'll never happen ;) But if it does, ooooooh your head is gonna roll so fast even the Green Knight couldn't catch up with it! Drmies (talk) 17:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll be rooting for you even though you'll be one more liberal in the cabal. :) I suppose your "association" with me won't help. But maybe you can get your spin doctors to defuse it by saying we were just acquaintances who lived in the same neighborhood. Go for it! It's fun to find out all the people who have a petty grudge against you because you voted keep in their AfD nom 7 weeks ago or who didn't get one of your jokes (most of which aren't funny anyway). I may vote against you for no other reason than you spend too much time working on "Kronos chronology", a subject that seems utterly boring to me... :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh...boring? Well, is Kronos Quartet Performs Alfred Schnittke: The Complete String Quartets more exciting, perhaps? And I quit for a while with that FL nomination for the discography. I don't care that much, even though I'm really proud of how the article looks. Boring! You, the one who keeps working on Obama articles! One would almost think you're in love with the guy! Maybe he'll have a handout for you...which is likely, since chances are you're not a millionaire (remember, bacon is a poor man's food). Hey! I just noticed that you call my jokes not funny! Pfff. I'm giving up on you. For anyone here watching, "I had no relations with that ChildofM." Drmies (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I rather think
that you're ready for adminship. Would you like me to nominate you?— S Marshall  Talk / Cont  17:16, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, no rush. Let me know when you've had time to think.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  17:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
— LinguistAtLarge • Talk  18:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

— LinguistAtLarge • Talk  18:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

— LinguistAtLarge • Talk  18:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Roll(back) with the punches
Congrats on the rollback rights Doc, well earned. --kelapstick (talk) 18:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You know what, Murphy's law probably dictates that I'll never, ever run into blatant cases of vandalism again... Thanks, BTW! Drmies (talk) 19:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hah! Yeah right, would that were the case... Lady  of  Shalott  19:41, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Pyramidenkogel

 * Heh, thanks! At least DYK is positive and relaxing; vandalism work gets depressing pretty quickly. Shubinator (talk) 22:33, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Re; Barnstar
Thanks for the star, and thanks for withdrawing the nom. Let me know if you ever have an article that needs rescuing.--Michig (talk) 05:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Death Organ
For your perusal. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:53, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * John Parker Wilson signed by the Falcons? He could be the next Mike Vick. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoa! Is that so? That's exciting! Drmies (talk) 19:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * See . What is "critical internet mass"? FYI, you can click on the words "bacon mania" in the article for more information on the subject. I'm thinking swine flu isn't helping the pr campaign? Is bacon a killer? And what do you make of this ? ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Horror film genre-specifc reliable sources
If you have time, I'd appreciate your looking in at Horror film genre-specifc reliable sources and either comment, advise, or contribute. I think something like this should have been done a while ago so as to help stop the bickering at AfDs. I might set it as an essay. What thinkest thou?

Request for opinion.
On my DRV patrol, I noticed that a new user with zero edits and questionable verbose is requesting - almost demanding - the reopening of a Michelle Belanger article that was considered self-promotional in the past by AfD. Noticing all of the attempts at promotion I am worried if the bio page warrants a recreation for WP:N or will just open doors for added promotion in the future. Given your personal involvement in the AfD related with this singer's album Blood of Angels, I believe that your opinion on this topic would be appreciated. []  Diana LeCrois    : 04:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Queen's Day
Thanks for the congratulations and subsequent heartfelt message. Yes, those events were indeed very sad. I'm just glad I wasn't watching the television at the time. I know I couldn't have dealt with the tv footage if I had caught it live. Seeing it on a news report is still shocking, but has some sort of distancing effect that I need to handle with stuff like this. - Mgm|(talk) 08:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Dead Hot Workshop
Hey, check out my DYK hook at CoMs talk page, what do you think?--kelapstick (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Hello! Yeah I decided to go a little crazy with blue linking the Dutch film articles (sorry). I had wanted to start all related Dutch articles with quality but I figured the sheer amount missing I just had to go for it! Of course I want every starter article to be full and good quality but sometimes you have to weigh up quality vs missing content!! I'll work towards getting them up to minimal level over the coming weeks, at least we'll have the most notable Dutch films up and running. I'm sure a lot of them can be expanded into half decent articles. I hope this isn't too much of a problem! Of course the idea eventually is that they all look like Black Book (film)! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC) Yeah I noticed that. Dunno. Go for a DYK, may as well. If I have time I'll also start some more notable buildings and people but my work is cut out with these for the mo! Man I need some Bed Peace now! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey Ernst, sure, go for it--you have my blessing, haha. But I don't have much time to devote to them, unfortunately, though I always have time for Jesus. Listen, I must have done something wrong with that IMDB template--can you fix that? It's in their database, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0143323/, under the Dutch title. You reckon this can go up for DYK? I mean, we put time into it already... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 21:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Tango DYK
Hey boss. Is the word "legend" sourced for your DYK nom? I would go with: ...that Five Tango Sensations by the Kronos Quartet was the last studio recording by tango composer and bandoneón player Ástor Piazzolla? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Your vote
Articles for deletion/West Herr. I think you should re-read what I said and hopefully you will change your vote. Your decision to vote Delete has put my judgement in the minority. --Sky Attacker (talk) 06:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I should? Why? I read them already. Also, AfD is not a vote, and if it were, I don't do sympathy votes. I voted delete because I think the article should be deleted. In fact, perhaps you should consider voting delete also, so that, given WP:SNOW, we can delete the article very quickly. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

{{Hidden|titlestyle = background-color: #ccccff;|A rant, not a lesson.|

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a battle
While I want assume good faith as per Wikipedia Policies, your edit to Golden Boy (song), was clearly unconstructive. It is easy to see that the only reason you made the unconstructive edit was out of revenge, because I am the only person who is sensible enough to realise that West Herr is notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. Just remember, most editors are here to make Wikipedia a better place, so there is no need to engage in revenge edits simply because your personal opinion gets in the way of your contributions. Wikipedia is not for that. My advice for the future: If you are unhappy about being wrong and having to be corrected by other editors, consider it to be teaching, and not as an attack, accept it, don't cause conflict, and move on. Have a nice day. (-: By the way, as far as I've seen, AfD is a vote, according to most experienced editors. Just to inform you. --Sky Attacker (talk) 23:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC) For goodness sake GROW UP! There is a time and a place for childish pranks, but it is unwanted on Wikipedia so please, take it elsewhere. Regarding your recent edits in association with me, what the hell do you think you are doing? You are making a mockery of something to be taken seriously. I don't know why you think it is funny that you don't know what you're doing when the relaity is, YOU ARE eiher being a nuisance on purpose or you genuinely don't know what your doing. As I clearly stated, most editors are trying to make Wikipedia a better place. In other words, help improve Wikipedia, not harm it. There is no need to make childish fun out of other peoples words. All I was saying before is to keep a neutral diplomacy with all other editors on Wikipedia, regardless of past edits. Again, why I said what I said in the edit summary. STOP! These meaningless attacks on me are not helping me, you, other editors or Wikipedia. If we can agree to let the past be as I said: Consider it to be teaching, and not as an attack, accept it, don't cause conflict, and move on. There is nothing bad about being wrong. If the reason you are acting like this is because you want to act in good faith but hate being corrected, we all make mistakes. Nobody is perfect. BUT if I hunch is correct, you are trying to stir up conflict that won't help to solve anything STOP IT because it is immature and uncalled for. My vote:
 * No information about the main lyrical meaning of any song is trivial regardless of how insignifcant it may seem. In this case, the lyrical meaning I have given is as it should be.
 * If you had read the references, you would have realised that the narrator, author and singer are ALL Sin With Sebastian in real life. The article does not confuse those three people as they are ALL the same person. Don't bother making edits if you don't even know what you are doing.
 * I never said anything about upsetting the balance, where the hell did that come from? I only recommended that you re-considered your "vote" for Delete by actually taking into account what I said, rather than just encouraging deletion when there is reason, at least for a little while longer, to keep the Car company article active.
 * Regarding the edit summary "you don't want me as an enemy" was a promise, not a threat.
 * End This Nonsense And Let It Go - This idea of conflict is pointless and childish. Quit it, make peace, and move on. --Sky Attacker (talk) 00:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * }}

Shakespeare
Simple: the categories are now duplicates. All articles in Category:Female characters in Shakespeare are now within Category:Shakespearean characters (click the latter category to see how the one fits into the other). In theory, we could also set up a Category:Male Shakespearean characters, largely depopulating Category:Shakespearean characters. - Biruitorul Talk 23:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Likewise! - Biruitorul Talk 23:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)