User talk:Feminist/Archive 8

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Josu4u. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Multiplex Entertainment, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Josu4u (talk) 12:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 9 December
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DYK for Huawei Honor 4X
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for HTC RE Camera
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for HTC Desire 200
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel Everett (RAF officer)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Removing categories
Please note that all pages in wikipedia require categories, regardless, and removal regardless of edit summary reasons. You may wish to explain your action, but please note to change categories in project space really requires a replacement, not just removal. JarrahTree 09:04, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Replacements have been provided. sst✈(discuss) 09:05, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Further explanation: My category removals and CSD G6 tagging is due to duplicated pages. sst✈(discuss) 09:11, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * OK so every project on wikipedia (even russia, ships and milhist in their vastness) have elaborate assessment systems (you should see the wikiproject china system, perhaps the most elaborate i have seen), it seems a really poor misunderstanding of the process to try to pull part of it out for the women project. Nothing said at the project talk pages suggests any long term editor perspective of where and how the system is, abd perhaps should not be played with. JarrahTree 09:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Long term? The WikiProject Women template is only a few months old. Removing the importance rating solves an editing dispute, and there is rough consensus from the project members to either introduce an importance scale or to remove importance ratings. sst✈(discuss) 09:20, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * It seems a very naive and short sighted way to resolve an editing dispute. Best of luck. JarrahTree 09:23, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Women has never had an importance scale. Perhaps an importance parameter can be re-added to the project template if the project gets a proper importance scale. sst✈(discuss) 09:25, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

About Language Categories?
I wonder why are you moving articles toward dialects? For example: dif. ThanksCaballero/Historiador (talk) 15:41, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I closed the CfD discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 December 7 as rename. sst✈(discuss) 15:45, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the answer and the link. I was not aware of this discussion. Caballero/Historiador (talk) 16:10, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Peter III in Women's History?
SSTflyer, I just noticed that you tagged Talk:Peter III of Russia with Women's History. I'm just curious as to why this particular choice? I don't see in the article that he did much to improve women's rights in Russia, but is it something like that? Thanks! 1bandsaw (talk) 21:34, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * From WP:WHIST: "The biography of a woman born before 1900 is generally within the scope of this project." sst✈(discuss) 03:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh I understand why. This is not a biography of a woman. It just happened to be categorized within a sub-category of Category:18th-century women. Feel free to remove the project banner if you want to. sst✈(discuss) 03:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, will do. That's an interesting category nesting, he is categorized in Catherine the Great, who is categorized in 18th century women.  Thanks! 1bandsaw (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have already removed the banner. sst✈(discuss) 17:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Beg to differ
I saw your closure at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_December_5. A quick count leads to 10 keeps and 8 deletes, which hardly qualifies as a "keep", rather looks like "no consensus". Especially since the last opinion was humorous, and hardly counts as a real "keep". I am not saying this can be closed as a "delete", but please be accurate in your closing summaries. Debresser (talk) 20:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * This was my first time closing TfD debates; I apologize for any mistakes. Fixed. sst✈(discuss) 02:15, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's not hard. Basically a matter of common sense, including in applying the pertaining Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Debresser (talk) 15:15, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Huawei Ascend P7
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!
Happy Holidays text.png Hello SSTflyer: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 08:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Moving categories
Hi there. Your assistance in keeping up with maintenance tasks like moving categories at WP:CFDS is greatly appreciated! However, I noticed that you are manually/semi-manually moving the categories when closing a discussion. While that's not a wrong way to go about it, there is an established procedure that makes things simple and consistent, using the page at WP:CFDW where a bot will take care of the moving. Either way, keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 06:17, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not an administrator and cannot use WP:CFDW. sst✈(discuss) 06:20, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Filippino Lippi 016.jpg
An alternative image was added to the nomination 3 days ago. Could you indicate which version(s) you support? Thanks, Armbrust The Homunculus 12:13, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 22 December
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Sory
Hi SSTflyer, sorry about the rollback on July 13. I was checking my watch list on my tablet and I clicked the wrong thing. Sarah-Jane (talk) 09:18, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's OK, everyone makes mistakes. sst✈(discuss) 09:20, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful holidays


Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! --Tremonist (talk) 15:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Braemar Hill Mansions
Hello! Your submission of Braemar Hill Mansions at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:04, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

FPCs
Come here to show these FPCs:
 * Featured picture candidates/Sediment in the Gulf of Mexico
 * Featured picture candidates/Diagram of the Sun

Vote these nominations.

--PlanetUser (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Women
So you will tag all those 34tk articles from my list? If yes, then I have some notes. If not, then happy editing. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 09:54, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Nah, my fingers are starting to hurt. A bot would do a better job. sst ✈  09:57, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to wait some days, so everybody can express their feelings about bot request. And as you correctly said - there may be more than 100tk women biographies. And some more women-related works. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 10:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

13:02:08, 30 December 2015 review of submission by Fowlerjlr
Thanks for your review. Please help me understand how this article does not meet the notability standard. "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." This article is drawn from 17 independent news articles from well-recognized, reliable publications in the data center industry. Fowlerjlr (talk) 13:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)fowlerjlr

Happy New Year, SSTflyer!


Happy New Year! SSTflyer, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 22:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to send this message

Talkback
—  Jeff G. ツ (talk)   15:49, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK claimed for Wikicup removed from submissions.
The points you claimed for Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Huawei_Ascend_P7 have been removed from you submission page. The DYK was nominated 16 Nov 2015, and passed 28 Dec 2015. There was absolutely no work done on it during 2016. As such, it does not qualify for the 2016 Wikicup. Please let me know if you have any questions.--Godot13 (talk) 21:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Help
Could you help me in making HTC One A9 a good article? :) Ayub 407 talk 07:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I think the article needs to be significantly expanded. Compare this to other articles listed on Good articles/Engineering and technology, most smartphone GAs have prose sizes of about 10KB to 40KB. HTC One A9 is barely above 5KB. sst ✈  08:15, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

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17:03:22, 6 January 2016 review of submission by MichaelCottam
How in the world can a company like this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xplorer%C2%B2

possibly be considered substantial enough to get a page, and InstallAware not?

InstallAware has garnered a ton of awards, been written up multiple times in Microsoft's MSDN magazine, and shipped as part of Borland's development environment--Borland being one of the largest application development platforms for the PC ever? Millions...perhaps billions...of users have installed PC applications from major software companies using InstallAware.

Per this article (scroll to the bottom):

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa480235.aspx

InstallAware is one of the few install-builder tools certified as a Microsoft Partner.

Granted, under-the-hood stuff like install builders aren't as sexy as the apps themselves, or SaaS companies, but it IS a critical component of every single app anyone ever installs on a PC...and a huge percentage (I wish there were a way to calculate it) of Windows apps install using InstallAware today, and have for many years.


 * Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because a worse article exists does not mean that your article should be accepted. sst ✈  17:05, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I understand what you're saying regarding the other article.

I've read the notability requirements pretty carefully, and I'd like to share my thoughts on why I do think it meets those requirements:

"Notability requires only that these necessary sources have been published—even if these sources are not actually listed in the article yet" - we've listed a number of really strong sources (Microsoft's developer magazine MSDN; multiple awards from Microsoft's Visual Studio Magazine; and Dev Source magazine (a Ziff-Davis publication...ZD being probably one of the biggest publishing houses in the world). IT Ninja is a subsidiary of Dell, and a huge resource for the development community. Granted, some of these don't have the article online, but we did provide screen shots taken from when the articles were online, or scans of the print magazines.  From my perspective, these are really cornerstone publications in the industry, from the biggest software company in the world and by one of the biggest magazine publishing companies in the world.  Yes, the field is a nerdy software niche, but each of these has millions of readers.

"When evaluating the notability of organizations or products, please consider whether they have had any significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education." - clearly InstallAware has had a significant effect on the software industry (in that a substantial percentage of application developers use InstallAware to make their install CDs), and on society (in that most PC users have at one point or another installed an application on their PC using InstallAware--although they might not have been aware of it, as the application developers typically put the application name and brand on the install dialog boxes).

"A company, corporation, organization, school, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in secondary sources. Such sources must be reliable, and independent of the subject." - the articles in the Microsoft and Ziff-Davis publications are certainly in-depth, and those organizations are certainly reliable (given their sizes, their distribution, and who owns them...although I could throw Fox News in as a counter-example :-) and independent of InstallAware.

"The depth of coverage of the subject by the source must be considered. If the depth of coverage is not substantial, then multiple[2] independent sources should be cited to establish notability." - here, we have BOTH the multiple independent sources, and the amount written in the articles is certainly substantial.

"A primary test of notability is whether people independent of the subject itself (or its manufacturer, creator, or vendor) have actually considered the company, corporation, product or service notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial, non-routine works that focus upon it." - Rebecca Rohan is not affiliated with InstallAware in any way. Bob Kelly is not affiliated with InstallAware at all either. The Readers Choice awards: it's possible that Sinan voted for his own product, but the other thousands of Visual Studio Magazine readers who voted are not affiliated with InstallAware :-).  Granted, the MSDN Magazine Europe article was written by Sinan, but he was selected to write that article simply because he's one of the giants in this tiny industry, having originally been part of the team that created the InstallShield product, which for a long time was the industry standard--then leaving there to create InstallAware.  I can see how that article might not meet this test; but the other two, plus all the awards should meet the test.

I think I've covered the important bits of the notability requirements, and I also think I've proven that this company meets those requirements. I'm interested to hear whether you think I'm off base on one or more of these points, or if there's a bit of the notability requirements I've skipped over that I should have addressed.

DYK for HTC One (E8)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Nominating redirects with "retarget"
I've noticed that you've nominated a few redirects for discussion requesting a "retarget." Most of the time, you can just change the target yourself WP:BOLDLY. You should only take it to RFD if you know it would be controversial, you aren't sure what target is best, or it is fully-protected. Thanks for your contributions at RFD, it's good to see more people jumping into discussions. Cheers, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:24, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of HP Stream 7
Hello! Your submission of HP Stream 7 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:29, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 10:46, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

What the?
Was this meant to be a joke? StAnselm (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No. See WP:BACON. sst ✈  15:13, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, thanks. I've raised this (and mentioned you) at ANI. StAnselm (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Filippino Lippi 016.jpg
It would be really nice if you would re-visit this FPC, and update your !vote (because an alt was added). Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 18:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK
Hello! Your submission of HP Stream 7 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 07:50, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK
Hello! Your submission of Braemar Hill Mansions at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! North America1000 08:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I erred when commenting at the DYK nomination for Braemar Hill Mansions. I have corrected this matter at the discussion. Sorry for the inconvenience. North America1000 11:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK preps
Just wondering if you saw my comment about the photo for porpoises before closing the nomination? You left no edit summary. Also, there is a section at Wikipedia talk:Did you know about using positive hooks for the Birthday, which may be relevant. I'm not saying we need to follow it, but you may have wished you read it before filling out a full prep. Thanks,  Jolly  Ω   Janner  07:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I am going to move the two crime-related hooks to Prep 3. sst  ✈  07:20, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Bad closure of Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 6
I'm sorry, but Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 January 6 should not be closed as no consensus. The raw count is 7 !votes for delete and 3 for keep, and the arguments for keep aren't strong enough to override that strong of a numerical consensus. Per WP:NAC: non-admin closures are only appropriate for clear keep outcomes (or similar) after a full listing period. Since a close of this magnitude is inappropriate, I've respectfully reopened it so an admin can close it properly. In the future, please stick to closing discussion that are obvious and leave the harder ones to admins, as they have community support to do so. Thanks, -- Tavix ( talk ) 01:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Since you have commented on that discussion, perhaps you should not have undone my closure, as you have a COI. After analyzing the arguments from both sides, I found that some of the Delete votes have generally weak or non-policy-based arguments, such as voting delete solely because of the redirect creator. However, I would not mind having another admin closing this discussion. sst  ✈  05:02, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's been closed properly by an administrator as "no consensus." This is fine because a) the admin explained why it was a no consensus which is important for close calls that go against the numbers and b) he's been through the WP:RFA process, so he has the community support to make those tough calls. Thanks for your understanding! I appreciate the comment about WP:COI, since that's something I haven't thought about, but I'll be sure to remember that in the future (where I'd go the WP:DRV route, which is longer and more bureaucratic than I like, but demonstratively more 'correct.') My apologies for being perhaps a bit too WP:BOLD. Cheers, -- Tavix ( talk ) 22:24, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * So my closure was correct. Yawn. sst  ✈  23:56, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

??
Hi, SSTflyer, I saw that you posted requests for me on the rollback and pending changes reviewer pages. Not that I don't appreciate it, but...it's a little weird, to be honest. Rollback could be useful, I suppose--for the maintenance of some of my user scripts that use it, if nothing else--but I'm not sure how much I need the pending changes one. Anyway, it's no big deal at all, but I think I'd rather ask for permissions myself as needed. Thanks, though. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 09:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Sources for Chanty Binx
I'd ask you to link the sources you believe are reliable; a Google News search turned up nothing. There's lots of random attack pieces on Internet blogs which show up in a straight Google search, but none of them are reliable sources for biographical purposes. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 00:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand that the coverage of this person is mostly negative, but that is no reason to delete an article. How's this, for example? sst  ✈  05:02, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * That's two short sentences in an interview article on a broader topic; is that sufficient sourcing for us to write a biography of her, as opposed to a one-line stub that presents her as nothing more than this single event and a throwaway reference to her hair color, because we don't have any sources which discuss any other aspect of her life? There may be a redirect warranted here, but I don't see any way of writing a biography about her. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:12, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * See my response on the AfD. This is not a case of WP:BLP1E as the continuous threats and harassment she received demonstrate sustained coverage. Vice, Gawker Media, and HuffPost are generally considered reliable sources in this area. sst  ✈  05:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, Gawker is generally deprecated, and the HuffPost is an op-ed blog, which can only be said to be reliable for the author's opinion - see WP:NEWSBLOG. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 05:24, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The most important thing is that notability is established. I commented on that discussion and I am not changing my stance. sst  ✈  05:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

"Pre-code"
Please note that you do not have a consensus to make mass-deletions of this, and that AWB is specifically not to be used to make controversial edits. Because of this, I am reverting your edits. Please open a general discussion on this, advertise it on the Film PRoject and on Centralized Disucssions, and do not restore your change until you have a consensus to do so. BMK (talk) 23:09, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. I did quote policy, but if anyone objects, feel free to revert them, or ask someone to. sst  ✈  01:37, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Your move close
Hello,

Could you provide a rationale for your close of the move discussion at Talk:Pomona station (California), particularly in regard to WP:USSTATION's requirement and WP:NCDAB's recommendation of natural disambiguation, as well as addressing the ambiguity of the current title compared to the original? Thanks. --Regards, James(talk/contribs) 21:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:NATURAL says: "Do not, however, use obscure or made-up names." There is general consensus that the former title is too obscure to be suitable as the title for that article. Also, of the four participants in that RM, you are the only editor who opposed the move. sst  ✈  04:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month
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TFL frequency
Hi, SSTflyer. I saw the VPI thread and have been meaning to respond, but haven't had a chance. I'll post some thoughts here when I have free time, which will most likely be tomorrow at this rate. It's been busy in real life and haven't had time for much more than basic editing the last couple of days. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 23:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
 * While I enjoy scheduling FLs for the main page very much and wouldn't mind doing it more often, I can't say that I support expanding TFL at this time. The main issue I have is a lack of diversity among FLs, which makes scheduling complicated at times. This page offers a good indication of what we have been promoting lately. As you can see, FL leans heavily towards sports and entertainment articles, which tend to fit a list format well. At a rate of 2 TFLs per week, I've been able to keep main page choices as diverse as possible by using FLs from other categories at a greater relative rate than sports and media/music; as a result, the stockpile of unused FLs leans heavily to the major categories. Even at a rate of 3 TFLs per week, I would probably have to run 2–3 sports lists, 2–3 media lists, and maybe 2 music lists a month; that would about double our monthly usage of such lists. My fear is that people would get sick of the constant pop culture lists and complain regularly. We've been able to avoid complaints about our list selection for the most part and I'd like to keep it that way.


 * That being said, I don't have a supervote over the process and this comment shouldn't be taken as one. If a consensus develops that we should have TFL more often, I'll go along with it and try to schedule TFL the best I can. At the same time, the FL and greater communities need to know that there is only so much I can do with the choices available to me. It is easier to enforce some measure of topic diversity with the way things are now. If people don't mind having a lot of pop culture lists featured, then I'd be happy to choose more of them. I have my doubts as to what the community at large would think, though. I'll post a link to this at the VPI thread so interested parties know it's there. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 22:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response! I can definitely see your frustration over the lack of variety of promoted FLs. However, if I am reading this correctly, you are literally saying that featured lists of topics other than music, media and sports are being used at a proportionally faster rate. This means that they would be used up quicker. In fact, TFA suffers from a similar problem, though to a lesser extent, in that the number of featured articles on military topics is relatively high. This means that the TFA coordinators have to schedule a relatively high number of military FAs to keep the pool of WP:FANMPs balanced, which has drawn occasional complaints. I think if TFL were to be increased to daily, this may gain support from editors who create featured lists, but yes, a constant stream of pop culture and sports topics may draw complaints. An alternative proposal to feature FLs would be to try allowing DYKs for newly promoted FLs, but again such a change would require community consensus. I may consider starting an RFC to see what the community thinks. sst  ✈ (top/bottom) 05:04, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Looking at WP:FL2015 again, I see that the rate of FL promotions is less than one a day, not really enough for increasing TFL to daily without decreasing the backlog. This is another thing to consider. sst  ✈  05:08, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, some categories are being used up quicker, but it's only a problem if they are not being replenished. We do get enough FLs in various other categories for us to run a fairly varied set of lists at the current amount of TFL days. While you are free to make whatever proposals you want, I don't think featuring FLs on DYK is likely to gain much support from anyone. The section itself receives a relatively low number of critiques when it runs, FL writers would feel disenfranchised at losing TFL, and there are probably more editors who would rather remove DYK because of various issues with that process. In fact, quite a few FLs already ran on DYK when they were created; WP:DYKSTATS says that over 600 current FLs have run on DYK at some point. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 15:09, 15 January 2016 (UTC)


 * When I suggested allowing FLs at DYK, I meant treating newly promoted FLs the same as newly promoted GAs, providing an additional opportunity for editors to feature their content, not to replace TFL. For featured lists about music/media/sports, the current TFL rate is useless for featuring their content. I cannot see how "FL writers would feel disenfranchised", because they do not lose TFL, they just have a quicker, though less prominent option for featuring their article in addition to TFL. sst  ✈  15:33, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Braemar Hill Mansions
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?  12:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Deletion sorting/Schools
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DYK for HP Stream 7
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Women's History tagging
Hi SSTflyer. I notice you have been tagging a lot of women's biographies with the WikiProject Women's History banner. But according to the project's Criteria for inclusion, many of them are out of the project's scope. Here are the criteria:


 * A biography that has met the notability requirements outlined at WP:BIO may be included within this project if it meets one of the following criteria.
 * The biography of a woman born before 1900 is generally within the scope of this project.
 * The biography of a woman born between 1900 and 1950 is within the scope of this project if reliable sources discuss her life or career in the context of women's history or as contributing to significant societal or cultural change.
 * The biography of a woman born after 1950 may be included only if she has exceptional and verifiable historic significance. Spheres of notable activity include but are not limited to: politics and society, law, an art form, the military, labor, education, health, commerce or consumer protection, humanitarianism, sports, or science and technology. "Exceptional significance" should be demonstrated on the article's talk page by a clear and reliably sourced statement of what the person did or achieved that made a lasting contribution to the world.
 * In deciding whether a woman born after 1950 should be included by this project, consider that a "lasting contribution" is not fame; the winning of an award; statistical popularity (such as sales); or record-setting, unless a "first" results in a societal or cultural change. Examples:
 * An invention is considered a lasting contribution; a famous haircut is not.
 * Breaking a barrier to women's participation in sports is a lasting contribution; winning a gold medal is a personal achievement that in and of itself causes no necessary change beyond the individual's life.
 * Winning an Oscar for Best Supporting Actress is not a lasting achievement, nor is winning a Nobel Prize; however, the kind of work for which a Nobel Prize is won by definition represents a major advance in the field, and qualifies the laureate for inclusion.
 * The biography of a man may be included within the scope of this project under the same guidelines, if his role in women's history is a major aspect of his notability, as indicated by reliable sources. For instance, Henry Browne Blackwell, the husband of Lucy Stone, was an activist for women's rights.
 * The biography of any scholar who has met the notability requirements of WP:ACADEMIC may be included by this project if women's history is a major emphasis of the scholar's body of work. Example: Ann D. Gordon, leader of The Elizabeth Cady Stanton & Susan B. Anthony Papers Project at Rutgers University.''

The Women's History project does not include every woman. WikiProject Women covers all people who identify as women and their creative works. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:51, 23 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Pinging, who created the list. sst  ✈  10:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There are women, whose biographies here at enwiki have category "X births" (earlier than 1950). The 1950 comes from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 10:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:WHIST:
 * The biography of a woman born before 1900 is generally within the scope of this project.
 * The biography of a woman born between 1900 and 1950 is within the scope of this project if reliable sources discuss her life or career in the context of women's history or as contributing to significant societal or cultural change.
 * -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 19:47, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Archiving noticeboard threads ...
Hi SSTflyer, thanks for helping in the 1-click archiving of noticeboard threads. I'd like to remind/request that you make sure you do not archive any thread before at least 24 hours have elapsed after the close. All participants and observers of each thread must have time to read the closing actions and rationale before the thread is removed from the noticeboard. Since Wikipedia users live all around the world in vastly different time zones, and also have unknowable and unpredictable sleep/login cycles, every thread needs to stand at least 24 hours so that everyone is given adequate time in their own time zone to see the close. The easiest way to ensure that you have allowed at least 24 hours is to Google utc time, and then subtract one day from that (decrease the date by one). Then don't archive anything that was closed after that. Hope that helps! Thanks again, Softlavender (talk) 20:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

John Mark Loudermilk
Hello, this Afd nomination also includes Christina Masterson- is it allowed to have 2 people in one nomination (both actors) ?Atlantic306 (talk) 20:59, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Chanty Binx
This is a quick note to say I have closed the AfD discussion as "delete" and deleted the DYK nomination under WP:CSD. The leading hook you supplied for the nomination was totally unacceptable (how would you feel if somebody said that about you or your mother?) and DYK policy forbids putting negative information about living people on the front page. Sorry. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  09:47, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Nigeria Writing Contest
Hello SSTflyer, and happy Wikipedia @ 15. This is to notify you of Wiki Loves Nigeria Writing Contest organized by the Wikimedia User Group Nigeria to commiserate the 15th anniversary of Wikipedia. The contest will start on 28 January 2016 and end on 29 February 2016. Please help to suggest articles on notable Nigeria-related topic here and if you like to be part of the jury, add your name here. Thanks for your participation. Warm regards Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 14:43, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Your close of CFD for Category:Members of the Faculty of Advocates‎
I see that you closed Categories for discussion/Log/2016 January 15, and marked it as a non-admin closure.

I am writing to ask you to re-list the discussion.

There was little discussion. Only 2 editors replied to the nomination, both briefly. Given the lack of discussion in a nomination open for only 24 hours beyond bare minimum of 7 days, there was no urgent need to close it. It would have been better to leave it open, or to relist.

None of the 3 participants appears to have any experience of Scottish legal articles, and the nominator notified neither the category creator nor WT:WikiProject Scotland.

Those deficiencies mean that nobody challenged the false premise of the nominator User:Marcocapelle, who asserted that "Membership of the Faculty of Advocates is not defining".

That falsehood is fundamental to the discussion. Membership of the Faculty of Advocates is the defining characteristic of an advocate in Scotland. For centuries, only its members were permitted practise as advocates before the College of Justice. They have recently been joined by a smaller number of Solicitor Advocates, but the distinction remains precise, and critical to understanding a legal career in Scotland

The renaming blurs the category's precise purpose as a category of advocates admitted to practise before the Scottish court. The renaming widens the scope to include solicitor advocates, and also to include Scottish people who practised before courts elsewhere in the world.

Please reverse the renaming, and re-open the discussion. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:38, 23 January 2016 (UTC) The Faculty is responsible for: (i) prescribing the criteria and procedure for admission to the public office of Advocate and for removal from that office; and (ii) regulating the professional practice, conduct and discipline of Advocates. These responsibilities have been delegated to the Faculty by the Court of Session under the Legal Services (Scotland) Act 2010.]
 * FYI, from the Faculty's own website:
 * [http://www.advocates.org.uk/faculty-of-advocates/what-is-the-faculty-of-advocates The Faculty of Advocates is the professional body to which all Advocates belong. Its history dates back to the sixteenth century.
 * -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I should also draw your attention to Non-admin_closure: "In general, XfDs other than AfDs and RfDs are probably not good candidates for non-admin closure, except by those who have extraordinary experience in the XfD venue in question. If there is a serious backlog on one of these venues, consider asking a very familiar admin who closes many of this type of discussions for their advice".
 * Do you have extraordinary experience" of CFD? Did you seek any such advice? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I have now reverted the move of the category page, so we are all back to where we started ... and we can see where the discussion leads. Best wishes, -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have moved all articles in the category back to its original name. Note that I do not have the technical ability to move the category itself back to its old name.  sst  ✈  02:36, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks v much for the prompt response, and also for the prompt action. That was v kind of you, and I;m sorry that my posts above were rather growly.
 * Please note that procedurally you had done nothing wrong with closing this discussion, so instead of reopening the discussion, you might also have said, "could you please bring this issue to WP:DRV". You've done a great job with closing the CfD discussions for quite some time. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:26, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Umm, Marcocapelle ... procedurally, please note the caveat at Non-admin_closure: "In general, XfDs other than AfDs and RfDs are probably not good candidates for non-admin closure". -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:05, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for IPhone 6
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:02, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Jif (drink) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Jif (drink). Since you had some involvement with the Jif (drink) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. North America1000 01:02, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Tea tea listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tea tea. Since you had some involvement with the Tea tea redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix ( talk ) 19:20, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Google Doodle task force
– Sent using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:54, 2 February 2016 (UTC) on behalf of WikiProject Today's articles for improvement

AFDs & 168hrs
Hi SSTFlyer, AFDs need to stay open for 168 hours (7days) as per WP:NOTEARLY and the consensus here - I've noticed one of your closures was closed a day early which as stupid as it sounds the community still doesn't like that - They need to be closed generally when they were nominated, I used to close early all the time but a few days ago I ended up blocked (and then unblocked on the basis that I stop closing early) so my advice to you would be is to seriously stop the early closures otherwise you'll end up blocked and for a rather long time - I disagree with it all personally but it's the way it is, Anyway thanks and Happy editing :), – Davey 2010 Talk 00:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me about it. I did not know about this discussion. sst ✈(conjugate) 07:54, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome :), I figured I should probably "warn" you before you're inevitably taken to ANI over it, Anyway thanks and Happy editing :) – Davey 2010 Talk 11:49, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Questionable NAC
Your non-admin close at Talk:Slow_Food should be reverted, and left for an admin to close. The RM proposed either a move or a split, and our close did not take account of this, nor of the fact that opposers were just robotically asserting "it's a proper name" in defiance of the facts, when one half of the proposed split (the organization) is a proper name, and the other half (the social movement) is not, and per MOS:ISMS should not be capitalized. Having one topic WP:COATRACKed into an article on the other cannot continue. A proper close would result in either a split on the basis of the policy arguments vs. the WP:AADD pseudo-arguments, or at very least a re-listing for further discussion; a third possibility would be to treat the organization as a subtopic of the (ten-times larger) social movement, lower-case the article, and rewrite the lead accordingly. If it's not reverted, I'll need take it to WP:MR. If you won't self-revert, I'll need to take this to WP:MR. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  09:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I do not consider my closure to be inappropriate. There was unanimous opposition to your move proposal. If you want to propose a split, it should be done separate from the RM, not added to an ongoing discussion. Yes, I won't self-revert, so take it to move review if you want. sst ✈(conjugate) 12:48, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for G2A
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you SSTflyer. The auto patroller right was granted to me after your nomination. Thank you for the trust and the kind words. Xender Lourdes (talk) 05:23, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Redirect
Does a redirect page requires uncategorization like at Guntur East?-- Vin09 &thinsp; (talk)   07:24, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Palestinian Wine AFD
Hi, I see you closed the AFD as keep, I would like you to re-open and leave it for an admin to close. I think it's to controversial for a non-admin, and I think it might be a good candidate for a redirect or merge. There is a growing consensus that the article might be a good fit for Wine in the Mid-east. Sir Joseph (talk) 03:37, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. Done. sst ✈(conjugate) 03:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sir Joseph (talk) 03:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Jayanthi Pushpa Kumari AfD
You recently closed the above AfD as keep. Can you please re-open it and leave for an admin to close. I believe the arguments that the subject is notable because other similar topics are notable is not sufficient justification to establish notability. WP policies are very clear that those arguments do not establish notability and that WP policies stating that notability is not inherited are more relevant. This is not to say that the subject is not notable only that there is insufficient evidence provided to establish notability. Dan arndt (talk) 07:50, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I do not think that I have closed that discussion incorrectly. sst ✈(conjugate) 08:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know then I will be requesting a formal deletion review of your decision.Dan arndt (talk) 09:15, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. sst ✈(conjugate) 11:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
— Calvin999 15:34, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

モンスターペアレント listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect モンスターペアレント. Since you had some involvement with the モンスターペアレント redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:38, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Olamide David
Hi, can you explain why you closed the above AFD as no consensus instead of keep as there were 4 keep votes and 2 delete votes.ThanksAtlantic306 (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Consensus is not based on a tally of votes, but on reasonable, logical, policy-based arguments. Ultimately both sides made reasonable arguments. sst ✈(conjugate) 15:13, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your explanationAtlantic306 (talk) 16:35, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Latvia
Hi! Maybe you could tag these categories with WikiProject Latvia? By theory, that should help get better results from articles for further article tagging. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 09:35, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * A bot would be able to do a better job. sst ✈(conjugate) 10:36, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * But there is all that bureaucracy, like getting consensus for tagging etc. I would more like to gain consensus for that, if I need tagging articles :) These are categories, that nobody is interested in. And there isn't so much of them, some 200-300, which is nothing compared to those several thousands women, that you tagged :) But of course, if you're not willing to do that, then I will be away from continue asking you that. -- Edgars2007  (talk/contribs) 17:48, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

J. Issac Friedman listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect J. Issac Friedman. Since you had some involvement with the J. Issac Friedman redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Drmies (talk) 20:21, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of ICloud leaks of celebrity photos
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article ICloud leaks of celebrity photos you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 21:41, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much
SSTflyer,

Thanks very much for your acknowledgement of my Quality improvement effort at the article The Signpost (Wikipedia) !

I just wanted to let you know I made one minor correction to a citation &mdash; the article was from The New York Times Magazine, which is itself a publication included (inside) the Sunday edition of The New York Times, so the fact in the article body text remains the same. I also went ahead and archived the link via the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive. Just this way makes it easier for the reader to enable verification in the future.

Hope that makes sense and isn't a big deal. :)

Thanks again,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:19, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Ad Noiseam (2nd nomination)
Hi, would you please reopen Articles for deletion/Ad Noiseam (2nd nomination)? The only "keep" votes were added in the last 24 hours and are not supported in policy. czar 03:52, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Avianca Flight 52
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Avianca Flight 52 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MPJ-DK -- MPJ-DK (talk) 13:40, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello again
Hi SST. I saw how you closed Articles for deletion/Roger Joseph Manning, Jr.. Till I saw this I had presumed that only administrators are allowed to close. Learnt another new thing today and thought I'll stop by to say hi :-) Xender Lourdes (talk) 15:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi there
I know the following may sound a little weird but please read it through if possible...(this is neither a mass message nor a spam)

I am Wishva de Silva and I live in Shenzhen, China. Last summer, I have set up a WikiProject particularly focusing on Shenzhen but due to the lack of local Shenzhen editors I was in touch with, this project was very much stagnant. Back in July last year I made a proposal for the WikiProject and you are the only one (one of your alternative accounts) to leave a message (I appreciate that), and since no one else left any comment whatsoever I created it anyway. Soon after I realized the problem I just mentioned. Thus, as you probably might have guessed already, I really want help from people like you! Now that after informing a few of the only Wikipedians in Shenzhen this afternoon, I am asking for your help--since back then you have mentioned that you may possibly join. So see if you can join this WikiProject, then slowly but surely we will improve the coverage of Shenzhen-related articles. I would really love to collaborate with a few of you to overturn to current shape(which are nothing close in being encyclopedic) of these articles. Thank you!

Wishds (talk) 14:26, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Bloody Roar characters
Hey, I see you considered the consensus for the AFD of List of Bloody Roar characters was to merge. I was planning to look for more sources than just the ones I posted at the AFD, but I haven't had much time to be on Wikipedia lately. Could I always unmerge the article once I find more sources? Kokoro20 (talk) 09:21, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Avianca Flight 52
The article Avianca Flight 52 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Avianca Flight 52 for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of MPJ-DK -- MPJ-DK (talk) 13:01, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the noms
Thanks for nominating all the airline domain name redirects, I noticed that there were lots, but I thought that nobody will ever get to nominate them, again, thanks. - Champion (talk) (contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 23:30, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for LG G5
&mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)