User talk:Herbythyme/Arc2

About your RfA
Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! -- Acalamari 18:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome! I'm glad to see you succeeded! You might want to try out your new tools at the useful admin school, something which I'm still doing yet! Just ask if ever need any help - even admins are on a constant learning curve! And don't worry about the useuflness of your contributions, you comments are really valued by the Wiki-community, hence the success of your RfA. Just carry on being the brilliant editor you are. :-) Best wishes,  Lra drama 18:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I hope you weren't insulted by the link to the new admin school. :) It's a link I try to give to as many new admins as possible. As for the T-shirt, you are welcome. -- Acalamari 18:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)



Re. RfA
Oh, you needn't worry of spamming my talk page. That's quite alright, really. I am certain you will make a fine admin. Maser ( Talk! ) 04:05, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations. Happy mopping! :) PeaceNT (talk) 11:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Back to square one
I'll answer the AN thread. When you get a chance, can you add this to meta and remove it from en.blacklist? Thanks!--Isotope23 talk 15:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks... Personally I think as a "repeat offender" it should stay blacklisted until the site's owner can detail how they will permanently solve this problem. I confirmed the exploit was gone before I removed this, but clearly they didn't lock their site down to avoid further exploits.--Isotope23 talk 16:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Sneeze sneeze
While all votes are appreciated that is twice you've voted for Johnny :) I'll let you fix it? Cheers --Herby talk thyme 08:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know - 2nd time this month - duhhh... :-) -Pump  me  up  08:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Semiprot at User:Sambure
Oops, looks like we both had the same idea. Sorry about that! If you want/need to tinker with the settings, feel free, I'm heading offline for a bit in the near future. – Luna Santin  (talk) 16:33, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Blacklist
Hi Herbythyme, I noticed you archived the proposed blacklisting of blogspot.com addresses. Was the whole domain actually blacklisted? Spellcast (talk) 15:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's just that after I made the report, one of the sites kept being spammed at least half a dozen times under throwaway accounts and IPs (just check the history of Saturday Nights, Sunday Mornings between November 6 to 18 and you'll see what I mean). It seems to have stopped though, so I'm not too concerned about it anymore. Those blogs are likely to be temporary anyway. Spellcast (talk) 16:16, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Those blogs target future albums and they just shut down after the album is released. So it's not likely to be a long-term problem. I'll still keep the articles watchlisted though, thanks. Spellcast (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, some of those blog sites should definitely be blocked, at least temporarily. 67.55.4.133 has spammed countingcrowsnew.blogspot.com yet again and also freemodlife.blogspot.com. If you can add those sites to the blacklist, that'd be good. Thanks. Spellcast (talk) 22:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I will add to the log. It's just that a bleedingly obvious sock keeps returning under throwaway IPs. I filed a report at Requests for checkuser/IP check. Spellcast (talk) 21:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think all of blogspot should be BL'd, and individualy whitelisted (such as googles' official blog). Unless there is overwhelming consensus, the s@#$storm of complaints that would follow would be unbearable.imho--Hu12 (talk) 21:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I support seeing how individual whitelisting goes. Can this proposal be discussed anywhere (other than MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist) to gain consensus? Spellcast (talk) 22:30, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain theres been discusion on this befre on WP:EL's talk page. Most likely stashed in the archives. Would aleast give a foundation for presenting the argument. But MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist in the discussion area, would be the apropriate venu, I would think. Pull you origional propose from the archive.--Hu12 (talk) 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Wayne Smith needs LINKSPAM sites blocked
Exactly as directed, I placed links that are being used for spamming here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#Linkspam_from_vandal_Wayne_Smith_AKA_Universe_Daily

The only response was to "monitor" it. Why? How much vandalism is he allowed? Look at this nonsense:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_G._Barrett&diff=next&oldid=172863431

Smith's Long Term Abuse page instructions are very clear -> block and revert on sight. Maybe you can help. Yale s (talk) 19:23, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Just wanted to say thanks for supporting me! Please find your thank you card here, should you wish to see it. I'm honored to have received your support. And congrats on your RfA as well. All the best, ~ Eliz 81 (C)  02:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Official thanks, slightly delayed due to post-RfA crash (who knew?)
  Tapadh Leibh (Thank You)...  ...for helping me navigate the waters of my surprisingly peaceful  RFA, which closed successfully with 85 supports, 1 oppose, and 0 neutral.

I would particularly like to thank Acalamari and Alison, my nominators, and everyone who watched the page and ran the tally.

If there is anything I can do to be of service in the future, please feel free to contact me.

If you hate thankspam, please forgive me, and do not worry that you will hurt my feelings by hitting delete. I promise I won't block you. Unless I mess up with those shiny new buttons. Mistakes do happen... (*cackle cackle*)

And forgive me if I need a Wikibreak now and then (like now. I'm exhausted!). You wouldn’t want to see me climbing the Reichstag, now would you?

Off to flail around with my new mop! (what?!) Kathryn NicDhàna </b> <font color="E4D5E8">♫ <font color="FCD73F">♦ <font color="E4D5E8">♫ 

<font color="#000000"> This RfA thanks inspired by Neranei's, which was inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.

My RfA
<div style="padding: 5px; background: light blue; border-style: solid; border-width: 7px; border-color: navy; font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; "> <div style="margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 9px; padding-bottom: 9px; padding-left: 9px; padding-right: 9px; width: 250px; float: center;"> <I>Thank you for your participation in my RfA</I> Click show to open your card! → → → <font size=3 font color="black"> Dear , Thank you for participating in my recent RfA, which closed successfully with 22 supports, 1 oppose, and 2 neutrals. Whether you supported, opposed, stayed neutral or simply commented or asked a question, I would like to thank you for your time and for your comments. Special thanks must go to User:Lar and User:John, who not only conommed, but also devoted a large proportion of their time coaching me. I am sure that what I have learnt during the coaching process can be put to good use as an admin. As an admin, I will be willing to help out with anything I can so please do not hesitate to contact me if there is anything I could help out with. I will also do my best to address any concerns raised during the RfA.

Thanks. Tbo 157  (talk)  16:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

<I>Credits</I> <I>This RFA thanks was inspired by User:Iridescent's and User:The Random Editor's RFA thanks which were both inspired by Phaedriel's RFA thanks .</I>

aceshowbiz.com whitelist
Thanks for adding this to the whitelist. I just tried it out at Jonas Brothers and it works. --Scott Alter 14:37, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your confidence
== Thanks - I appreciate it. Sorry you've been bothered by this fiasco... --Ckatz <sup style="color:green;">chat <sub style="color:red;">spy  10:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC) ==

Thanks for dealing with the vandal. I appreciate it. Cheers. --Ckatz <sup style="color:green;">chat <sub style="color:red;">spy  10:16, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip!
Thanks you, I didn't think about the log -- that was my first addition :) I'll make sure to use it in the future, thanks again -- SQL <sup style="color:#999">Query me!  08:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

What a nice surprise!
Thank you for thinking of me. It was very kind of you, and I hope you have a lovely day. Maralia 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Ping: Licensing
Herby, I've replied to your message on my talk page - I didn't intend to be so late... sorry. --Iamunknown 23:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Btw, love the photograph in your archive box ;o) --Iamunknown 23:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

\b
Dumb question whats the \b at the end (\bexample\.com\b)of the BL'd domain do? LOL--Hu12 (talk) 19:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Whitelist
Sorry about that. All better. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

AN
I Started a topic Administrators%27_noticeboard, and it appears the meta BL is proposed. Could you have a look. thanks--Hu12 (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Its been requested meta:Talk:Spam_blacklist--Hu12 (talk) 00:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Andrha News block
I am happy if it is blocked if it is a spam site. I haven't checked to see if it was given that the news events it was used as a link for was real. What I want to do is to be able to update the Current Affairs page? Capitalistroadster (talk) 08:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Spam-blacklist
Can you please make andrhanews.net active on the spam blacklist now? All of the links have been removed now. — <font color="007FFF">Save_Us _ 229 02:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Placed back on the Meta blacklist a while back, thanks -- Herby talk thyme 09:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

disease-pictures.blogspot spammer
Thanks for blacklisting the domains, see Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Spam. But I forgot one domain and I thought maybe you haven't noticed my update on the WPSPAM page. So, could you blacklist wartpictures.blogspot.com, because he's still adding the link 2-3 times per day to Genital wart, each time from a different IP. Han-Kwang (t) 15:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

69.31.147.93
I thought it was strange to see that after blocking a user, you then reverted the note on that IP's talk page explaining how crazy the block was. If you have anything to suggest that the IP in question is actually a proxy or zombie other than the fact that one of the two edits ever done by that IP address was mildly critical of wikipeida, I'd like to know what it is. I'm not assuming bad faith, but could you please explain these actions? 155.42.99.201 (talk) 21:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem to explain it as I see it (& nothing to do with the criticism aspect either). The ip was listed on here as being an open proxy.  Equally I found evidence here that it is likely still one.  It is against policy to edit from Open proxies so I blocked it.  As to the edit I reverted, I understand where you are coming from to a point.  I sort of took it as a vandal edit I guess, had it been an appeal of a block then I would have left it for someone else to deal with.  I hope that answers your queries but if not do get back to me, thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 10:22, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * That explains it, I didn't even know that there was an open proxy detection system in place, there is so many pages in the Wikipeida:xyz space that I don't think I'll ever be able know of them all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.42.99.201 (talk) 19:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

PanchoHardy on commons, again
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/PanchoHardy I hate having to keep bringing this up but it seems nobody bothered at all with both my request, and your re-request and he had since uploaded more blatantly copyvio images. ,, , . To top it all off at the same time as he's uploaded thiese images he's had the gall to nominate some other images for deletion as copyright violations showing he is aware of what copyright is.

This user knows what copyright is, and yet every upload of his that isn't a transwiki is a copyright violation that he has taken from someone else. This really needs to be taken care of. –– Lid(Talk) 14:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Gracias. –– Lid(Talk) 15:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I asked the user for clarification. If the answers are not sufficient we should probably block him, he has had enough warnings. -- Bryan ( talk|commons ) 21:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, much appreciated - Re: your comment on 'Alan Miles not being a major part of the Levellers
Hi Herby,

Thanks for your help, much appreciated - Re: your comment on 'Alan Miles not being a major part of the Levellers because you have been to quite a few of their gigs over the years' --> Alan Miles' co-writing of their first Gold selling LP and performing on the recording, being a part of the era when they were creating the seminal sound that they have stuck to ever since, as well as co-writing the 'Liberty Song' on their second Platinum LP is certainly considered quite major to me and a vast oversight on your part I believe.

I do, however, agree with your comment on 'conflict of interest', I can see why this is crucial to the Wiki system

Thanks for your understanding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Commonviper (talk • contribs) 15:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

blacklist entry
Hi Herby, thanks for your counsel. It was my first time adding to the blacklist. I wasn't really aware of the option, so I had solicited opinions in the admin IRC channel for how to deal with the situation (dynamic IP re-adding spam link, but other IPs making good edits) when one admin suggested this option and told me how to do it, upon viewing the article history. I can certainly solicit outside opinions on-wiki as well in the interest of transparency before adding a link to the list in the future. ~ Eliz 81 <sup style="color:#1E90FF;">(C)  17:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Please don't let me screw up on my first day
Thanks for all your support in my RfA! I couldn't have and probably wouldn't have without your encouragement.

Now I have my first questions; I struggle to understand copyright and I know you know a lot about this from your Commons work.

Here's a photo from Commons of a Japanese stuffed animal: Image:Domokun.jpg; Domo-kun is the mascot for a Japanese TV station. According to the image description file, this image is free content and the image's creator has made it freely available per the terms of a free license. Here's my question: I'm guessing the underlying mascot is proprietary to the TV station -- so does that mean it's really fair use in this case?

Here's another one: Image:Godzilla （04）.jpg: Godzilla, probably very proprietary/tradmarked/copyrighted/whatever, as a sculpture on a Japanese street. My thinking is that whatever claim the Godzilla movie owners held on this image, they licensed to the sculptor and the sculpture owner. But is its use in Wikipedia limited to fair use in a discussion of just that statue (and perhaps its surroundings and the sculptor)? Do we have an obligation to the movie studio here? What about the sculptor and/or sculpture owner? Then there's this deletion discussion that I don't really understand: commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Godzilla hibiya japan 2006 9.jpg

I was going to leave this tasteless RfA thank you note (click on its corner link to open it) but the last thing I need to do is spam fair use images across 86 user talk pages.

Thanks again for the big stuff and now this little question. -- A. B. (talk) 14:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Right - copyright is not my thing. Equally the problem is that en wp can have material that Commons cannot.  Godzilla is definitely not hostable on Commons and has been deleted (ALE!'s summary is quite clear).  The stuffed animal I would have thought was not hostable on Commons either.  BUT I have no idea whether "free use" would be applicable to either.  Now if it were about proxies, blocks, links....!  Try Fair use and VP as other sources?  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 14:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * On en.wikipedia, the policies (rightly) discourage fair use as much as possible. Fair use images are not allowed on user talk pages. Better safe than sorry -- I will look for alternate images. Thanks, -- A. B. (talk) 15:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Really, really bad Haiku from a new admin
Setting new lows in thank-you spam:

<div style="padding: 5px; background: #B0C4DE; border-style: solid; border-width: 10px; border-color: #00008B; font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; font-size: 100%; "> <div style="margin-top: 3px; padding-top: 9px; padding-bottom: 9px; padding-left: 9px; padding-right: 9px; width: 250px; float: center;"> Click there for my RfA spam haikus! → → → Janitor's new tools

Spam must stop -- will new mop act?

Ooops, .com blocked

New admin, new tools

Earnest newbie furrows brow

Fare thee well Main Page

New mess all about

Sorcerer's Apprentice mop

Not supporter's fault

A. B. so grateful

Wikipedia trembles

Watch out DRV

A. B. wonders why

Copyright always confused

Fair use, farewell, bye



Dear RfA friend, I will learn, chaos will fade ''Thanks so much ... A. B.

So far, so good. No copyright vios with this one.

And thanks so much, as always. -- A. B. (talk) 15:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Open proxy
I wish I knew more about open proxies to deal with this. If you know it is one, by all means feel free to tweak the block. Spellcast (talk) 08:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah you know more about this than I do. If you think it's appropriate, go ahead and apply the 3 year block. If I come across similar IPs, I'll refer to you in the future or this guy who seems to be familiar with this stuff. Also, I don't mind you tweaking my blocks/administrative actions. It's just common sense :) Thanks. Spellcast (talk) 08:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Important message about recall

 * To me it would be sensible to adopt an approach that covers as many as are willing to be involved. As such my gut feeling is to "adopt" your process/page - do I steal it or link to it?  I can't see anything obvious that would mean I would wish to change it.  Many thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 11:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Legistorm.com
Thank you. I do understand that. I'm trying to be civil.

I'm an admin myself, but I'd prefer not to remove the site because I'm honestly not familiar with this area of the project. Before this happened, I didn't even know we had such a list. It seems that a handful of users maintain it almost exclusively, and I didn't want to step on any toes. Would it be unwise for me to remove the link myself? Do people ever run an RfC on this issue? It seems like a waste to me, but I'm very frustrated with how this is going. Cool Hand Luke 09:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It goes without saying that I very much appreciate what you do around here, Herby, and so tactfully, too.

-- A. B. (talk) 18:41, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think in the interest of encyclopedia-building it's worth considering some sort of controlled removal of the legistorm.com links from the blacklist. I don't think that should be discussed, however, while folks are still riled up and sticking sticks in your and Hu12's eyes.


 * I certainly agree with removal in some shape/size/form/timescale. However the linkage is excessive.  I can find a whole bundle of things to do with me time than play the games I left en wp to avoid so it will have to be nice & calm for me to come up with anything constructive I think.  Thanks for your help A. B. -- Herby  talk thyme 19:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

-- A. B. (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Well stick around -- we really need you on en.wikipedia. Close your eyes, take a deep breath and visualize whirled peas.

Re: whitelist
Thanks, I've added the request now. Waggers (talk) 09:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I've tested it and it seemed happy with the link. Thanks again, Waggers (talk) 12:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Pygmalion Books
Herby, I have added some arguments about the Pygmalion Books situation to their spam section. Out of all the other moderators involved, I have only seen you admit that there may have actually been some substantial non-spam in the information I added. While I'm willing to admit that I may have gone overboard with some articles, I believe your hunch here to be the case. I can go into further detail on the specific articles that I think merits their contribution if you'd like.205.200.244.98 (talk) 01:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam --Hu12 (talk) 03:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Hu12, I had already added the link to the spam page in my message above. I'm not sure what the purpose is in posting redundant information here? 205.200.244.98 (talk) 05:14, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Question
Is the archive search working for you? Last few days its not been returning accurate results. --Hu12 (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Can't say I've used it recently but I think I did try one just before Christmas which seemed ok. Is Eagle around/active at present?  Or toolserver issue?  Cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 13:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Havent seen him, did a search on cafepellicola.com (one you just discussed on whitelist), only the request shows up, not the archive..hmmm--Hu12 (talk) 13:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Fortunately that one was logged - the problem would be far worse with unlogged entries. I've just removed another on Meta because there is not info on the rationale.  I notice B added one and despite my request it is not logged. -- Herby  talk thyme 13:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Zombies!
Hi, Herbythyme! I use an automated tool (i.e. no human intervention) that runs 24/7 to detect whenever an XRumer spambot creates new pages. Whenever it finds such a page, it will delete it and block the IP that created it, as XRumer operates only either from botnets (in which case they should be blocked) or the spammer's computer (which should probably be blocked too). I know DerHexer handles XRumer a lot on the smaller wikis, maybe you should get in touch with him? Just get back to me on my talk page if you need my tool or anything else. All the best, <small style="background:#fff;border:#800080 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">east<big style="color:#090">. 718 at 21:00, December 27, 2007
 * There's a report page set up here which you may find more useful. <small style="background:#fff;border:#008080 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">east<big style="color:#090">. 718 at 11:20, December 28, 2007
 * I'd rather identify and block zombie proxies - hopefully I can get more stewards to watch my report page to help stop spam on small wikis. It's really no effort for me to do this at all. <small style="background:#fff;border:#191970 1px solid;color:#000;padding:0px 3px 1px 4px;white-space:nowrap">east<big style="color:#090">. 718 at 12:07, January 3, 2008
 * I'm watching it now. But I've not written a script yet to block these spambots on smaller projects. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

sneaky work around of blacklist
re: Appears a new attempt by easy-forex.com, to subvert the blacklist by using freewebs. see freewebs.com/tradeforeignexchange. Any chance this can be added to the global also?.. Ive already added this to the archive on meta, so logging the link above is already done. thanks--Hu12 (talk) 22:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Consider it done (bit later today tho) cheers -- Herby talk thyme 08:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Another from same (IP 196.217.155.53) directoryforex.com ...frickin persistant--Hu12 (talk) 16:06, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * This is going to be a long drawn out issue...easyforexforum.com... ugh--Hu12 (talk) 16:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Done them, cheers -- Herby talk thyme 16:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks..--Hu12 (talk) 16:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hum
Re your message: Thanks for alerting me about that. I don't use my Meta account very often. He was a particularly persistent vandal. I see you blocked him over there. He ended up with a range block over here. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle
Hi Herby,


 * I'm wanting to check to see if it was you granting me access to use twinkle since i've post the message on WikiProjectSpam if it was you granting me access to use twinkle thanks, and yes the message was the truth my old account got closed down by me, and i've created this one, mainly because some users previously was annoying me and got fed up and decided to create this account. <b style="font-size:100%; color:darkblue;">→Yun-Yuu</b> <b style="color:steelblue;">zhan</b>→ 19:33, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

more about CAT:AOTR
For a final version of the message I've sent to many admins (I am up to the "F"s) see User:Lar/catmsg. You may want to review it. links changed (I changed your archive just now in fact) Note alsos... 1) since the table page has been moved from a cat to a non cat, the edit history has been lost. You may want to re-edit your entry in the table to validate that it was you that added it. 2) Since you're, I think, using my criteria/process, you may want to give a link to a specific history entry version of the page, heck I may change mine to say that admins that start with H only need 1 petitioner to get recalled or something :) Cacharoth's entry is an example of how that was done. ++Lar: t/c 00:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR

 * PS that was the OFFICIAL message for the G's and H's :) ++Lar: t/c 20:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka 3
Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because it's the holiday season and there are plenty of off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a good New Year, --Elonka 22:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey
I hope you remember about a site which i asked you block it. A website called empiretotalwar.co.uk. Well that guy is spamming his site again. is there anything you can do to block him and his sites. He seems to having a dynamic ip and plus he is redirecting the traffic to that site. I know this going to be hard. Is there anything you can do about it?. --SkyWalker (talk) 07:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks you are doing a great job in blocking him. He keeps coming with his dynamic ip. How long can we keep blocking his ip and his redirection?. I think banning all ip with range of 78.148.XXX.XXX would do the trick but i guess doing that would cause people with that range being blocked aswell. Any more ideas herby?. --SkyWalker (talk) 08:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I see but what is meant by COI?. This is the first time iam seeing such a spam. I never knew things would get so messy and this guy just keep spamming with his redirection technique. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Equilibrium Web Design spam and page rank
I think at some point this guy is going to have to stop for his own good. Our standard operating procedure is to tag every IP page with information on his domains, registration etc. We do this strictly for our own tracking purposes, but since Wikipedia has such high page-ranking power with Google, the more IP's he uses, the higher our internal spam-tracking pages rise on the results page when someone Googles his company. It's a perverse form of reverse-SEO I've seen some others commit on themselves. It's too bad, but there's not much we can do for this guy -- it's a byproduct of his own behaviour. -- A. B. (talk) 15:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Quick like cobra!
Wow, that was fast, thanks for the link to the local BL, didn't realize it was centralized to wiki's as well, I was quick like cobra removing them, but you were spry as a mongoose with that reply... :P Dureo (talk) 17:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Electrojets.com
Updated comment at [User_talk:Neparis#electrojets.com]. Did I list this correctly? Thanks for the help/comments. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

RFA
<div style="background-color: white; border: #5B92E5 solid 2px; margin-bottom:.5em; padding: 5px; font-family: trebuchet ms, sans-serif;"><font color="#084C9E">, Thank you for your support in my RFA which passed 43/0/1. I would like to especially thank Bibliomaniac15 for being my nominator and admin coach. I would also like to thank Rudget for being my co-nominator. I'm sure that I can live up to the community's expectations as an administrator, and not totally mess everything up. Thanks again for your support! Malinaccier (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

ghthesoap.com
"Too long" is not a valid reason if it's a spam-link. The blatant hoax Brahmanical See existed for nearly 3½ years before it was deleted. (See User:Shii/Hoaxes)

It's clear the original uploader was link-farming when you look at their contribs. Also, I don't know how to use any anti-spam bots. If you do, would you know of any way to track how many times it's been added and removed, or if any other anonymous IPs have add the same link to Wikipedia before? &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 23:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It is just my opinion. To me the blacklist is not a form of censorship but a method of preventing current disruption. If you disagree then the blacklist page is the place to air your views - others may agree. Thanks -- Herby talk thyme 08:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

That does not appear to answer my questions. I do not know how to use anti-spam tools. Is it possible to look into the edit history surrounding that link to find if it has been added, removed, and re-added several times? It was originally added as linkfarming. If it was removed, then re-added multiple times, this would be "disruption," and removing it would not be "censorship." &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 08:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Asia/SOap
Glad it is gone. I am not against people profiting from Wikipedia, but referral links are a sneaky way of abusing users' trust on us. And while Amazon are very hard to catch, Play-Asia are easy. Thanks again! -- ReyBrujo (talk) 08:35, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Back at WP
Thanks for the welcome back. I got busy and then just kind of forgot to check in. I seem to have managed to fall back into my old ways pretty quickly though. This could be bad for my real life! -- SiobhanHansa 17:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

On Edmund Crispin
Hi, and thanks for your message. There isn't a lot to say really. Some years ago I read The Moving Toyshop and found it boring and confusing. Last December I found two more Crispin novels in a second-hand book shop and read them. As far as I'm concerned, they are much better, especially Love Lies Bleeding. As there hadn't been any articles on those other novels, I started them. I'm still working on an expansion of The Case of the Gilded Fly&mdash;I'd like to give a plot summary (without giving away the solution) and explain some of the literary allusions in the text.

Generally, I set out about ten years ago to read up on all those Golden Age detective novels I had missed, and now I'm trying to see to it that each author is represented in Wikipedia with at least one article on an individual novel. This doesn't only include the cosy whodunnit variety. Over the years I've contributed articles on novels by Gilbert Adair, Eric Ambler, Anthony Berkeley, Freeman Wills Crofts, Carl Hiaasen, Jonathan Latimer, Raymond Postgate, and some more.

Some authors such as Elizabeth Daly or Elizabeth Ferrars do not even have their own articles yet, so basically my interest in Crispin will be fleeting as I'm likely to move on to other authors. Do you have any particular reason?

Best wishes, &lt;K  F&gt;  17:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Placement of External Links
I think I understand the External Links policy along with the Conflict of Interest policy as well. I truly believe the links at Imag091307 and Backdoor.Win32.IRCBot are genuine links that contribute to the quality of the article as stated

Under the External Links policy

''Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons. ''

I also feel that a lot of Wikipedian readers have benefited from that link. HOWEVER I will not revert the edit if you still feel that you are correct. I am just showing my side of the story and hope you see where I am coming from.

Sincerely, augrunt (talk) 05:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd like to ask you to quote the rules I seem to infringe on the COI policy. Regards, augrunt (talk) 22:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry if it seemed like self promotion, I was only trying to help the users that happened to need assistance with those articles. augrunt (talk) 22:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey Again
How are you doing. :). Can you tell me which is the fastest way to submit more than 8 articles for deletion?. I know the current way. But it quite tiresome when there is lot of articles for deletion. Any help?. --SkyWalker (talk) 04:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

thoughts?
Any thoughts on this--Hu12 (talk) 15:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Whitelist
Thank you very much! Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz)  (talk / cont)  09:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Why are you rude to me and accuse me of spamming?
Hi from Watchet in West Somerset. As a local resident I try to add items to the "watchet" page of local interest, but today you have again accused me of spamming or advertising. I do NOT do this. The two links added are/were valuable information about the town of Watchet and ongoing redevelopment. How can they be spam? The other site is the town's own information site. There is no interest in search engine links - JUST to provide all visitors with information that will be useful. Please be kind enough to explain why you sent such a rude message. Or contact me direct on.

MR Richards

Hi from Watchet in West Somerset. As a local resident I try to add items to the "watchet" page of local interest, but today you have again accused me of spamming or advertising. I do NOT do this. The two links added are/were valuable information about the town of Watchet and ongoing redevelopment. How can they be spam? The other site is the town's own information site. There is no interest in search engine links - JUST to provide all visitors with information that will be useful. Please be kind enough to explain why you sent such a rude message.

MR Richards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.154.134 (talk) 21:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * A note that this appears dealt with on IP talk page, thanks to those involved -- Herby talk thyme 08:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Commons account
I have suggested that the account Gavin Collins be moved to GrawpSock and then I can create a new account in my name. Does that make sense? --Gavin Collins (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * A nudge would be helpful. Nothing seems to be happening. --Gavin Collins (talk) 15:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar
Title says it all, Herby. I'll have to work extra hard now to ensure that I deserve it! —S MALL JIM   11:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

IP Block
Hello. This is the only way I can reach you as your block on Wikimedia commons prevents me from leaving a message on your talk page. I am trying to recover my password on Wikimedia commons but your IP address block is preventing me from doing so. Please can you lift it? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 00:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The message says "Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Herbythyme. The reason given is this:

Intimidating behaviour/harassment: Stalker IP range pending consensus. You may contact Herbythyme or one of the other administrators to discuss the block." So I try to contact Herbtythyme or one of the other administrators and get exactly the same message.   The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 00:48, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Why did you cancel the link to
she-j radio? It is not a commercial radio, it is a website where people can listen to minimal techno tracks released under a creative commons license. There is absolutely NO advertising on the site, nor we promote anything. I don't understand why a link to "minimal techno podcast" is accepted, but you don't accept a non-profit site dedicated to this kind of music. I think it is a good resource for people to get to know free music of this genre. I am against any kind of spamming and advertising, I really think it is an appropriate link here. Why has it been deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amber sunshower (talk • contribs) 19:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought that it could have been useful to give an example of this kind of music. But, you're right, the world can go on even without those links. And even without many other information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amber sunshower (talk • contribs) 08:21, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Commons
Thanks for your message, although someone appears not to have understood the sentence "If you were not personally involved in the deletion of the image, please do not take the following comments personally." (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:ABF#Removal_of_image_from_.22Permian.E2.80.93Triassic_extinction_event.22)

What do you suggest would be an effective way to "have a go at the system"? The current system for managing images needs to be critiqued because it is at present a collection of obstacles and hidden traps, as shown by the deleted image. Wikipedia is trying to get and retain knowledgeable editors, and IMO user-unfriendly features are about as big a deterrent as as vandals, flamers and POV-pushers but it's less easy to see how to deal with user-unfriendly features.

PS the fact that at present only admins have universal log-ins is itself a user-unfriendly feature, since en.wikipedia editors get messages and other "inputs" from people with universal accounts and find it difficult to respond. (I've had a such a message on my Talk page; once I found that my en.wikipedia id was not valid for responding to it, I simply dropped the matter except for watching that no undesirable action was taken). Philcha (talk) 10:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your prompt reply.
 * I'm afraid I didn't understand "For SUL stuff Meta is the place to look" - could you please explain in terms that are intelligble to someone who knows next to nothing about Wikipedia internals.
 * The actual deletion was apparently on the grounds that no category was specified, which is pure bureacratic obnoxiousness ("fill in all the boxes or we'll treat your tax return as invalid and slap a fine on you"). The fact that commons has different "fair use" rules was apparently not relevant in this particular case, although it is yet another factor that makes Wikipedia a leaky abstraction (a well-known cause of trouble in computer systems). There are other respects in which Wikipedia is significantly less editor-friendly than it needs to be, and I'm still not sure where is the best place to raise such issues (the Village Pump looks more like a black hole than a source of refreshment). I think lack of editor-friendliness is an actual threat to the quality of Wikipedia, because the people most willing to find ways of handling the internal obstacles will include a large proportion of POV-pushers, advertisers, PR staff, etc. ("the best lack all conviction, the worst are full of passionate intensity") Philcha (talk) 11:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, hope you're having a pleasant, relaxing Saturday!? Thanks for the info about Met and SUL.
 * I dunno why the image was actually deleted, but the edit summary at the article's history page says "Deleted because Image stayed in w:commons:Category:Unknown as of 12 April 2008 and its missing information was not fixed", and you can see how I interpreted that.
 * I can't remember whether I have a commons user id, and I don't want to have to log into another system or check another watchlist or Talk page. The Wikipedia-commons combination looks like a badly designed client-server system, since the server (commons) does not do as the client (en.wikipedia) tells it and the client does not inform the user of important actions done by the server (trust me, I'm a retired computer consultant) - more simply, the client and server are not singing from the same songbook.
 * As a matter of interest, why do you "find Commons an easier place to work collaboratively" and on what sorts of work? Philcha (talk) 12:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Clearly we approach the whole thing from different points of view. You appear to find all kinds of work on Commons interesting in it own right; it would probably drive me nuts. I find something on the Web that I think would be useful for a Wikipedia article; or I search for something, Google sends me to a Wikipedia article and I think "I could improve that fairly easily" - in either case I simply want to edit articles. For all I know you might find that an uncomfortably haphazard style of working. Philcha (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

In Universe
The In Universe tag is for fictional works. Mokele-mbembe is not a work of fiction even though many/most don't think it exists. This is not an appropriate tag and there are two others there.Niet Comrade (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

RfB Comments
Hi, Herbie. I've addressed those two points at length on the RfB page, so I do not wish to clutter it up with unnecessary repetition. Re: time, please see case precedent at Requests for bureaucratship/Redux 3 which had this exact issue. Re: desire, yes, I do want to be a bureaucrat because I do think I would be an asset to the project as such. There is no other reason why I would subject myself to the intense dissection of near every one of my wiki actions (for example, an oppose based on a post over 20 months old) for kicks. One has to want to serve in this role in order to do a good job. Your concern should be do I want it for ego, or do I want it to help. I think my history shows the latter, but if you truly think its the former, then you were right in opposing. Thanks. -- Avi (talk) 14:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Rfb participation thanks
Hello, Herby.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. As you felt the need to oppose my candidacy, I would appreciate any particular thoughts or advice you may have as to what flaws in my candidacy you perceived and how you feel they may be addressed. Once again, thank you for your participation. -- Avi (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

thatsqingdao spam
Thanks for taking care of that quickly. Here's the meta blacklist proposal; declined because I didn't provide evidence that it was on multiple wikis (though I do know that the link exists on the .zh version). They've been quite persistent about trying to add that link (even resorting to using redirect domains to sneak it in). OhNo itsJamie Talk 14:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I tend to keep a look out for some behaviour both good (thanks for the work) and "other" :)
 * If you do find it cross wiki (use Eagle's tool here]) then go back to Meta. If it is cross wiki & I am around I'd list it probably (away until Wednesday next week :)) - cheers -- Herby  talk thyme 14:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Link flag query
Hi Herby,

I notice I have been flagged for adding inappropriate links to various driving pages of Wikipedia. I'm hoping you might reconsider this flag as I really feel the content on drivingfast.net is relevant and informative for the driving pages. It isn't a commercially driven site, and I feel it's one of the best independent sources of information on driving techniques. The average visitor I get from Wikipedia remains on the site for over six minutes which must say something on the relevance of the content and I feel the flash animations are more informative than static images can be. Really appreciate if you could take the time to reconsider the decision.

Many thanks

Jonnogibbo (talk) 14:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting
 * Effectively your only contribution to Wikipedia it to add external links
 * You blank your talk page to remove warnings & details of the sites you place links to
 * Given your comment above you would appear to be associated with at least one of the sites and so in breach of conflict of interest policy
 * I would not add further links now or you may well be blocked & find the sites blacklisted. Thanks -- Herby  talk thyme 14:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I assumed my talk page was for my purposes only - I have taken on board the message so decided to remove it but will leave it now. I don't intend on adding more links, but think it's a shame to remove relvent content. Have you had a look at the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnogibbo (talk • contribs) 15:18, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Blocked as a Spam / advertising-only account--Hu12 (talk) 18:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * thanks - it was tempting me :) -- Herby talk thyme 18:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)