User talk:Joshurtree

UK economy
Hi! In the future, please allow some time for a discussion on the talk page before you decide to remove sourced content. That is not to say that your point isn't good, far from it, but removing sourced content, especially when the source is very reliable and backed up by secondary sources, may be considered vandalism. In this case, I don't consider your edit vandalism but I do wish you would have allowed people the time to answer on the talk page before deciding to delete both the content and the source. Cheers JdeJ (talk) 22:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

UK GDP
Just a note that user:JdeJ is fiercely pro-French and is on a mission to ensure France's economy is seen as larger than the UK's. Signsolid (talk) 22:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC) Signsolid (talk) 22:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, my fiercely pro-French bias can be seen from my edit history. Almost 4% of my edits deal with topics related to France. The other 96%, well. Honestly though, Signsolid continues to attack me and stalk me from page to page. I've reported him for harassment. JdeJ (talk) 22:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Football in Sheffield
Yeah, I was thinking that it was time that we tried to get another Wednesday article featured. Maybe Hillsborough or History of Sheffield Wednesday F.C.? Both might be quite a bit of work though. What do you reckon our chances of getting Sheffield Rules featured are? I must admit I'm far from an expert on the subject, but it's an article that I feel deserves a bit more limelight... Dan1980 (talk | stalk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you're right about the history article, there's a lot of work there. I might have a crack at expanding it at the end of February though - I'm having an operation and will be off work for two weeks, so if I'm feeling up to it I can have a Wikipedia marathon!


 * The Sheff football taskforce sounds like a good idea, or maybe even a dedicated Sheff Football Wikiproject. Our Wikiproject has been neglected for months now and as you say it can only help the other Sheffield football related articles if we work with the Blades editors. Where's the discussion on it - I haven't seen it? Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 22:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008
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Peer review/Sheffield Rules/archive1
I've added some comments for you at the peer review. Feel free to get in touch with me if you need any help. All the best! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:00, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Josh,
 * I've just had another quick look over Sheffield Rules (it's looking fantastic by the way) and I reckon that there are quite a few statements in it that will require citations if we are to go for FA status. I'm probably not going to be much use at finding sources for them, but if you want I could add  to the ones that I think need to be cited and leave the rest to you.
 * As the subject is quite old and not very well known to the casual reader, I think that there will probably be quite a lot to be honest.
 * Let me know what you think, I don't mind going through the entire article and tagging statements with for you if you want.
 * Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 00:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I've gone through the entire article and copyedited it and added  tags where I think that citations are needed.  I have tried to be as strict as possible as I'm sure that will be the case if we go for FA with this, but if you think that I have been too harsh and that a statement is covered by a nearby citaion then feel free to just remove the tag - it's not easy for me to tell as I don't have all of the books to hand.  Also, I'm not sure what the convention is when adding inline citations that cover several statements in the same paragraph, but it appears that some of them are given after the first statement and some after the final statement.  In my opinion it would be better if there was a uniform way of citing multiple statements (probably after the final statement in the paragraph), and I'm sure that consensus must already exist somewhere for this.
 * I've also added a couple of comments to the peer review. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 14:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Billy Mosforth
I see that you recently created this article. There is already an article about the same person at William Mosforth, so the two articles will need to be merged. Your article is more complete, so can I suggest that you incorporate anything in the William Mosforth article and then make this a redirect? Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 18:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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Hillsborough Stadium
I've added this section to the article (I shamelessly ripped off the format from Priestfield Stadium, although I've expanded upon it a bit). If you could have a quick look at it and maybe copyedit it, that would be great. There are also a few citations missing, I don't know if you could help out with them...

Finally, I could not find the record League attendance anywhere, which should really be in there too - any ideas? Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 11:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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WPSWFC
Hi Josh,

I've finally set up the Wikiproject for Version 1.0 assessment and put some guidelines at WikiProject Sheffield Wednesday/Assessment.

Please let me know what you think of the page. Also if you could tag any articles you come across for quality and importance that would be great.

By the way, I notice you've added a watchlist to the project. How does that work? Does it automatically add any pages tagged with WPSWFC?

Cheers, Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 23:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been busy tagging articles, so the number of pages tagged with WPSWFC has more than doubled. It's probably worth running the script to update the watchlist again. I think that I have tagged all of the existing articles on SWFC players and managers now, so we should have all existing SWFC related articles covered. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 21:57, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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First Version 1.0 results for Sheffield Wednesday articles
The bot has done its first run and the results are:

– Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 18:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Cup final articles
Hi Josh,

I notice that you've rated the SWFC related cup final articles as Low importance. I was holding off rating them as they don't fit nicely in to the SWFC specific guidelines that I drew up at WPSWFC, however as they've been rated as Mid importance by WP:FOOTY, don't you think that we should upgrade them to Mid or High importance in that they at least "fill in more minor details" and probably "contribute a depth of knowledge" rather than being "mainly of specialist interest"? Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 21:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Whilst I'm on the assessment subject, what are your thoughts on current players. Should these be regarded as more important than previous players bearing in mind that they are likely to have played less than 50 games? Should there be a minimum importance for permanent members of the current squad, e.g. at least Mid or High importance?
 * Also, what about the other related articles such as Sheffield Rules? Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 21:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Project watchlist
Hi, I just spotted this and wondered if it would be possible to use this to create watchlists for projects other than Sheffield and if there was any limit on the number of articles that it can process. Keith D (talk) 20:59, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for setting up the bot. Does it run on a schedule basis or is it manually invoked?


 * There is a minor problem with the script with non-ascii characters as in Brontë Country which is output to the list as Bront� Country Keith D (talk) 20:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Would it be possible to set up JoshurBot to create watchlists for WikiProject Louisville and WikiProject Kentucky? We were already using WatchlistBot to create these previously, but it went out of service. The watchlist files currently used are at WikiProject Louisville/Watchall and WikiProject Kentucky/Watchall -- Project watchlist could be set up in these if that's how it's supposed to work. By the way, how frequently is JoshurBot run? Thanks! Stevie is the man! Talk &bull; Work 19:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for creating watchlists for these projects. However, there are a couple of issues: 1) The talk pages for articles are missing (we would like to track them too); and 2) Only the talk pages for categories, images, portal, etc. are listed and not the regular pages themselves.  Let me know if you have any questions.  Thanks!  Stevie is the man!  Talk &bull; Work 18:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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Auto-archiving of Talk:Leeds
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Sheffield Rules
Hi Josh,

I've just got back online after over a week without any internet connection and I notice that Sheffield Rules didn't make FA. Any idea why? I notice that it didn't attract any opposition and that no reason was given for why it failed FAC. Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 15:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing that there must be some sort of minimum requirement for the number of supports that a FAC should receive to pass regardless of whether or not it is opposed. It's a real shame if that's the only reason they failed it. Might be worth drumming up some support on WT:FOOTY after the new FAC has been on for a while. The bot thing sounds like a great idea too, although that said, I did list the FAC on WP:FOOTY anyway. Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 19:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Project watchlist
Hey, I noticed the default syntax at the top which lets the user know the page is updated by bot has a bad link. An example is here: WikiProject Ohio/watchlist. The click here leads to an invalid page. The problems seems to be with the subst:fullpagename. If I figure out what's wrong I'll let you know. §hep  •   ¡Talk to me!  20:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem was with the "subst:", I removed it and the link works fine now. That okay?  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  20:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

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Watchlist
Hi, can you run the bot to refresh the Yorkshire watchlist? Many thanks Keith D (talk) 17:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi still waiting for an update, is there anyway that there could be a regular update of the list? Keith D (talk) 20:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you please update the Yorkshire project watchlist as it has not received an update since April. May be there is a way that we can initiate an update ourselves rather than having to wait until you run it for us. If this is possible then let me know how to do it. Thanks. Keith D (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

GDP by country
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List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
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Sheffield Structures
Can you explain why the "Sheffield Structures" table that was added to the main "Sheffield page" was removed with the "not an appropriate place for it" comment ? If I wanted to find out about Sheffield the place to look is the main "Sheffield page", I would not look say in Leeds for such info for example ? one purpose of the main page is surly to link to other related content that is relevant to Sheffield and the table provides a way of allowing access to a lot of information to a much wider audience - BulldozerD11 (talk) 21:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reply josh, now you have pointed out that there are 1/2 a dozen similar tables that it could be argued should go on the front page I can see you point of view, and action. but then that begs the question of what should be included or not I suppose. BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
The Mediation discussion regarding the inclusion of the EU in List of countries by GDP %28nominal%29 has come to a conclusion with the following result:
 * The EU to remain in List of countries by GDP (nominal).
 * The EU to be positioned according to GDP rank between World and USA.
 * No consensus on the EU appearing in all three charts. By convention this means the situation would remain as current - that is the EU remains on all three charts.
 * Data for the EU on each chart to only be given if sourced, otherwise a dash to replace the data.
 * Explanation to be placed in the lead section for the appearance of the EU and other non-countries. Possible wording: "Several economies which are not normally considered to be countries are included in the list because they appear in the sources. These economies are not ranked in the charts here, but are listed in sequence by GDP for comparison."
 * The List retains the current name.
 * A suggestion by Tomeasy that I feel should be carried out is that the sister articles are given the same treatment as agreed above.

Unless there are significant disagreements within the next 48 hours I will be closing the Mediation. Any questions, please get in touch. Regards  SilkTork  *YES! 10:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Constituent country
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We are walking ourselves into a stalemate
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Template:Trans Pennine Trail (Table Only)
Hi. Just wondering what the "(Table Only)" signifies in the above and whether or not it would be an error to remove it..? Sardanaphalus (talk) 09:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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WikiProject Sheffield Wednesday
Hi Josh,

I've just started a new sources section at the Wikiproject and would appreciate it if you could add to it with any useful links that you know of that aren't already listed. The new section can be found here.

There's also a book list that will help in sourcing articles if you need information from a book that you do not own, so if you could add any books that you have to the list then that would be great too.

Finally, I'm in the process of starting individual articles for each of Wednesday's seasons. To start with these will essentially be stubs with an infobox and final league table, but will eventually be fleshed out. If you would like to help by expanding these articles or by creating some of the stubs then feel free to join in – you won't be treading on any toes! There is a full list of the season articles here.

Cheers, Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 21:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

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ArbCom elections are now open!
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Nomination of Crystal Peaks for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Sheffield One


A tag has been placed on Sheffield One requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Request for help with 1862 version of Sheffield Rules
Hi User:Joshurtree. I see you haven't been active on Wikipedia or Wikisource for almost a decade, so this attempt to contact you will probably be in vain, but here goes anyway :) You originally added the 1862 version of the Sheffield Rules to Wikisource here in 2006, and I've been trying to add sourcing information.  I've been vainly looking for any source -- online or offline, in print or out of print -- for the complete set of 1862 rules, and I've come up blank so far.  The version of the rules on Wikisource appears to be the only complete version I can find anywhere (apart from copycat websites and books).  If you can give me any hint of where I might be able to find an independent source for the complete 1862 Sheffield Rules, I would really appreciate it.  The addition of sourcing information would make the version you created online at Wikisource even more valuable. For context, I'm trying to build up a thoroughly sourced collections of laws of early laws of football on Wikisource. Thanks! Grover cleveland (talk) 18:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi. The 1862 rules were copied from a copy held at the Sheffield Archive. Their catalog of Sheffield FC documents is here. The 1862 rules are part of FCR 12(2). Hope this helps. josh (talk) 16:11, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that information! Grover cleveland (talk) 00:44, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Parsed time
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Proposed deletion of File:Sheffield outline.PNG


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Nomination of List of football club nicknames in the United Kingdom for deletion
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