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an ANI discussion
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding your GA "review" of Milan. The thread is User:Lucky102 && Talk:Milan/GA1. Thank you. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 10:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

now at:
 * Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 11:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I have just noticed this, and I'm sorry, I don't have that much experience.--Lucky102 (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, not a big deal, but it's probably best to start by writing good articles rather than reviewing them. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, also would you know how many points Dorset would get for unspecific date slot 5?--Lucky102 (talk) 14:55, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you can nominate redlinks, did you mean to link to something else? Mark Arsten (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, wrong link!--Lucky102 (talk) 15:01, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, that makes sense. It would have 2, 3, or 4: It would get two for widely covered, then it depends on whether there has been an article on a similar topic as TFA within the last 3 or 6 months. I don't have the time to check on that right now, but I think it would probably work as a non-specific. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oldham is to be featured on September 13.--Lucky102 (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks too similar, better wait a month or two with the other, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Any other suggestions?--Lucky102 (talk) 15:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please pick from the selection, and compare to the archive on the Main page, and to the present suggestions (no other plant, animal, book, history), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * What would you think of Windsor Castle.--Lucky102 (talk) 15:41, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * (talk page watcher) Windsor Castle is a good choice; but I want it to run on November 20, as that is the 20th anniversary of the fire. It's too soon to nominated articles for November 20, as we can only nominate a month or so in advance. That's why it's listed in the little sidebar on the right of the WP:TFAR page. -- Dianna (talk) 19:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Harry McNish?--Lucky102 (talk) 19:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Orla Barry


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 * I got a reference!--Lucky102 (talk) 15:39, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * Done!--Lucky102 (talk) 15:15, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK'S
Please help me with DYK'S Gerda Arendt! Thanks--Lucky102 (talk) 16:12, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * What's your first question? - Keep i mind that English is not my first language, but I know enough to see that no ' is needed for a plural such as DYKs ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * My question is about nominating, how do I nominate? Also, what do you think of John de Gray for featured article?--Lucky102 (talk) 16:18, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thanks, but where can I see this review?--Lucky102 (talk) 20:52, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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Swimming
I have a spreadsheet - paste the two offical web pages into it and a wiki page comes out. It's taken me several days to get it straight (I did athletics first) but it's really rocking now!--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 15:14, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I may try soon. So all you need is the links for heats and finals?--Lucky102 (talk) 15:15, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually copy and paste the screen images of the official web pages. I suppose it would be possible to enter the URLs, retrieve the web pages and parse the HTML - but having looked at the mess of their HTML I wouldn't recommend it. It isn't simple anyway - I have ended up with nearly 1000 lines of Visual Basic code (not all relevant to swimming, admittedly) plus look-up tables of country names and athletes needing disambiguation. Good luck if you try it!--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 16:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

List of Pokemon
I think it still has far to go before being "Featured". Being featured means it is complete, and requires very little future edits, if any. The Japanese names have yet to be fully sourced, and many of the romanizations are missing completely discounting Kanto and Unova species. For this reason, it probably should not be nominated. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Non-free content criteria policy
Please do not place or replace any non-free images to any pages except for actual articles, such as you did at Template:Did you know nominations/Pac-Man. Continuing to do so can be viewed as disruptive behaviour and you may be blocked from editing. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:15, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not know this, sorry.--Lucky102 (talk) 16:16, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, it's not a policy that most editors have to deal with terribly often. I just wanted to make sure that you were aware of it before you continued to try different images for your DYK nom. If there are some free ones, by all means put one in; it's only the non-free content that's off-limits. Cheers. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * How do I know if it's free or not?--Lucky102 (talk) 16:26, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * When you look at the actual file page (e.g., File:Pac-Man character art - The Adventure Begins.png) it has a Licensing section which can have a number of different tags in it, but you can read through the text and as far as I recall every non-free image should have a red copyright symbol somewhere in it. If in doubt you can always just ask about a particular file if you're unsure. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:50, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you possibly have a picture that I could use?--Lucky102 (talk) 16:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Since Pac-Man is copyrighted I don't know that there's any image which would be free and usable in that way. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming
Just saw your message on my talk page and am a little confused by it? Why do you want me to review it? It's already a featured list, and I can't see where you've done any work on the page that may need a second opinion. If you meant to say that you think the list shouldn't be featured, you can nominate it yourself at WP:FLRC. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 00:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think he meant to review it at TFL. That's where it is nominated. TBrandley 01:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * TBrandley is right.--Lucky102 (talk) 07:38, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't see it on the TFL submissions page before. Thanks for pointing that out to me. My schedule is busy this week with other work (Wiki and real life), but I'll try to post some comments at TFLS in the next few days. Keep an eye out for me there. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 01:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Music of the Final Fantasy Series
I wouldn't mind, except that it's been a Good Topic since July of 2009 when I nominated it. It's on the good topics page under music, not video games. Thanks for thinking about it, though! -- Pres N  17:31, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Re Archbishop of Dublin
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WP:TFL reboot
Hello Lucky102. I just wanted to thank you for selecting a submission for TFL. As you are aware, recently, at WT:TFL, there's been a lot of concern that the system has become stuck, that new nominations are being discouraged by the lengthy queues in place, and that my selections for TFL haven't been diverse enough. To that end, I've rebooted the system. In short, we will no longer have a submissions and prep page, just a submissions page. We'll limit the number of submissions to ten. The community can comment on, support, oppose etc the inclusion of any of the submissions. Directors will have final say on what goes on main page when. I've deleted all selections made from mid-October to Christmas to give others the opportunity to get involved. I'm sorry that your efforts now have been, well, delayed I guess, and hope that you'll continue to support our process, as we try to improve and ultimately get more main page exposure. Feel free to ping me about any of this. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:30, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Topics
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking, so I'll just give a general overview. Topics, as defined at Featured topic criteria, are groups of related articles/lists. There's no formal definition of the topics on WP- any group of articles that has a clear "head" article and a few sub-articles can be a topic. This can be a band and its albums, a video game and the articles about its sequels and characters and music, a bird genus and its species, etc. Any grouping that you can convince people is a well-defined and clear grouping is eligible to be nominated as a topic- though it's best to ask someone beforehand if you're not sure if the topic is eligible or not.

Once you have a topic, if every article in that topic is a GA, FA, or FL, it can be nominated as a Good or Featured topic. (exception- unreleased media articles and lists that are too short to be featured but don't have somewhere to be merged to can be given a peer review instead, but need to be improved to GA/FA/FL as soon as possible) The only difference between a Good Topic and a Featured Topic is that Featured topics have at least half of their articles as FAs or FLs, with a minimum of 2. That's it. Once promoted, topics can move freely between Good and Featured if the percentage of articles that are featured changes- they don't need a new nomination. They used to move automatically based on the template, but that seems to have been removed at some point.

You are very unlikely to find a topic that has the potential to be nominated that hasn't been. People have looked before, and done so, but in general all of the articles within a topic are gotten to GA+ by one or two people, who then nominate it- for example, the Music of Final Fantasy topic got nominated by me immediately after I got the 17th GA done on the article. You're not likely to find a topic that someone has done all the work on getting the articles GA+ in but then hasn't bothered nominating.

Hope this answers your question! More specific criteria are given in Featured topic criteria. -- Pres N  17:55, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Basically! They preceded books, but that's why each topic has a link to a book- you're required to have one/make one when you nominate a topic, and it's generally a one-to-one match between the two. -- Pres N  01:02, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. If your topic/book has 4 articles in it, at least 2 have to be FAs/FLs for the topic to be Featured rather than Good. If your topic has 5 articles, you need 3 to be FA/FLs. Each featured article/list helps you along the way. -- Pres N  20:40, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Re:Drafts
Is this draft the one you're looking for? If so, I found it by looking through your contriubtions. Lugia2453 (talk) 16:21, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

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List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming review
Lucky, I did return to the review and pointed out that a couple of my comments had not been fully addressed. I notice that another experienced reviewer has offered more comments on how the list can be brought up to modern featured list standards, and I suggest that you look at them. We want the content we put on the main page to reflect the best work that FLC can produce, and if a list hasn't been kept updated, it's hard to make that claim about it. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 02:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Norbert Murphy doubts
Hello! I am so sorry. I did not realize this before. You are fairly new to Wikipedia! I always assumed you have been for long and hence did not bother getting in details. Lets start then. When you add references and want to use same one again, you can give name to that ref and then use it as many times as needed. Example: Use ref like And now when you want to reuse it, add everytime you want. Feel free to ask any doubts you have. You can ask here itself. Your page is now on my watchlist. §§ §§ {T/C} 16:00, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's alright. I take it as a compliment!--Lucky102 (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not working.--Lucky102 (talk) 16:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now, thanks!--Lucky102 (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In case you are using space in the name, you have to write  . Also numbers are not allowed as ref name. If you are not using Internet Explorer 8, you should go to My Preferences and select the tab gadgets. In it, tick Provelt. Then you will get a popup window evertime you are editing article at the bottom of your browser. It has all ref formats inbuilt. Good for starters. §§ §§ {T/C} 16:23, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Since you were very helpful, could you please explain to me about List of Australian Olympic medalists in swimming. Look at today's featured lists, requests.--Lucky102 (talk) 16:26, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What comments in the review did you not understand? §§ §§ {T/C} 16:48, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Most of them.--Lucky102 (talk) 19:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

TFA/R
I don't think you did what you were intending to do. If you were trying to nominate California State Route 78 for a TFA slot, you should have added it to a different section instead of replacing the blurb and nomination for Hanged, drawn and quartered on WP:TFA/R.  Imzadi 1979  →   20:35, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what I was trying to do. It was a mistake, sorry! Nominating it right now.--Lucky102 (talk) 20:36, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You might want to notify before nominating it though. Since he is the primary editor, and the person that nominated it through FAC, he should be notified first.  Imzadi 1979   →   20:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. Gerda said you don't have to ask, but I'll tell him I've nominated it.--Lucky102 (talk) 20:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I would like to know where I said so ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't remember excactly, but it was on somebody else's talk page.--Lucky102 (talk) 08:40, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * It's nice to notify and nicer to ask before. I run into many authors who left, though. The author's wishes are not the only ones that count. Several nominations were not liked right away, then I felt sorry for having told the author anything about it. - So, no easy answer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Just now I asked about Gabriel Fauré, hopes Ssilvers says yes!--Lucky102 (talk) 08:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * For 4 Nov? - TFA people like a date connection, and they complain about too much music ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, for 4th Nov.--Lucky102 (talk) 09:06, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm really flattered, but I have reservations about having it appear on the main page. I've discovered some articles that have more information since the article passed FAC in 2009. --Rschen7754 20:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * So, I'll nominate it then?--Lucky102 (talk) 20:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Gerda isn't in charge of the TFA/R process though. Anyway, since Rschen has said that there is additional information to add to the article, I wouldn't advise that you nominate it at this time.  Imzadi 1979  →   21:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd appreciate at least a few days so I can add the extra information; I don't think it will be that major of a revamp. --Rschen7754 21:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, are you allowed to nominate more than one at the same time, but for different days. Ok, I'll wait.--Lucky102 (talk) 21:07, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Characters of Final Fantasy VIII?--Lucky102 (talk) 21:10, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Brockway Mountain Drive, Central Coast Mariners FC, Dover Athletic F.C., Dorset?--Lucky102 (talk) 21:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Imzadi1979 is saving Brockway Mountain Drive for a date in 2013. --Rschen7754 21:25, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm looking for more.--Lucky102 (talk) 21:25, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Rulz
In nominating, you can of course ignore all the rules, but could also observe some: only one name in the blurb, no days of birth and death, no paragraphs, length limit, - would cause less objection, I would think ;)
 * Alright, I just nominated George II of Great Britain now.--Lucky102 (talk) 12:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what I saw, with more than one name, complicated dates instead of (1683–1760), two paragraphs and too long ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed! Also, please look at my Norbert Murphy DYK!--Lucky102 (talk) 12:16, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have limited time for the next days, just look at the Peer review of Peter Warlock, will probably not get to it anytime soon, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome!--Lucky102 (talk) 14:45, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Done it yet?--Lucky102 (talk) 20:34, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Faure
I have no objections, although I do not watch the article. If you need any help, you should ask at the Classical Music projects. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:44, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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Seeing as you nominated an article in poor condition for the main page, any chance of you cleaning up the deadlinks, adding the missing references, updating the dated statements and polishing the prose before it is TFA? The principal author left over five years ago, after all, so if you don't do it who will? BencherliteTalk 08:23, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to, our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: (2007),  (2008),  (2009),  (2010) and  (2011). Our final standings were as follows:



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Adoption
Hi Lucky102. I saw you had the adoption userbox on your userpage. I would like to get an adoption course started, but I haven't done one before. I was hoping my first adoptee would be someone who already has some experience such as yourself. If you'd be interested in working with me to get something started, I'd be happy to try to help you out. Let me know. Thanks! Go  Phightins  !  03:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind. Saw you've already been adopted. Sorry about that. Go   Phightins  !  03:45, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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Hey Lucky. Sorry I have been unresponsive since two days ago. My internet connection is damaged and the supplier has not solved the issue yet =\ — ΛΧΣ  21™  03:58, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hobey Baker for TFA
Yeah, go right ahead. I see no problem with that, and can't really claim ownership over the article. Look forward to seeing it up there. Kaiser matias (talk) 20:38, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

TFA request
Lucky, if I'm honest I don't really want to see Doc Adams run at TFA on January 3, for two reasons. First, two sports articles are running this month, and a cricket article is being considered at WP:TFAR for a mid-January spot. That's a lot of sports articles in a short amount of time, and I don't want to see charges that too many of them are being run. Second, Adams' 200th birthday is in 2014, and that strikes me as the logical date to run his article as TFA. While I'm here, I recall you nominating Derry City F.C. at TFAR. It was thought that work was needed on the article, and I decided to open a featured article review after seeing the problems. If you could make some contributions towards keeping the article featured and eligible for main page selection in the future, that would be fantastic. I would love it if the article's featured status could be saved, and would pitch in with cleaning up the writing if sources could be found for the uncited areas. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 00:49, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Re:2013 Wiki Cup
You get points for the featured article or featured picture when it is promoted to a featured article or a featured picture, but you have to have done work on the article or picture this year. Does this answer your question? You can see the rules here, but if you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. J Milburn (talk) 22:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
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I understand that you were adopted by User:Hahc21 a little while ago. Your user page still says that you are looking for adoption. Now that you have been adopted, it's common courtesy to replace  with   so that people know that you have been adopted and who you have been adopted by. In addition, your "adoption interests" table should be removed. ö  Brambleberry  _ meow _ watch me in action 22:25, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2013 January newsletter
Signups are now closed; we have our final 127 contestants for this year's competition. 64 contestants will make it to the next round at the end of February, but we're already seeing strong scoring compared to previous years. currently leads, with 358 points. At this stage in 2012, the leader had 342 points, while in 2011, the leader had 228 points. We also have a large number of scorers when compared with this stage in previous years. was the first competitor to score this year, as he was last year, with a detailed good article review. Some other firsts:
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WikiCup 2013 February newsletter
Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.

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 * , whose Mycena aurantiomarginata was the first featured article this year.
 * and, who both claimed points for articles in the Major League Baseball tie-breakers topic, the first topic points in the competition.
 * , who claimed for the first full good topic with the Casting Crowns studio albums topic.

Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by : did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...

March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!

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WikiCup 2013 March newsletter
We are halfway through round two. Pool A sees the strongest competition, with five out of eight of its competitors scoring over 100, and Pool H is lagging, with half of its competitors yet to score. WikiCup veterans lead overall; Pool A's (2010's winner) leads overall, with poolmate  (a finalist in 2011 and 2012) not far behind. Pool F's (a finalist in 2010, 2011 and 2012) is in third. The top two scorers in each pool, as well as the next highest 16 scorers overall, will progress to round three at the end of April.

Today has seen a number of Easter-themed did you knows from WikiCup participants, and March has seen collaboration from contestants with WikiWomen's History Month. It's great to see the WikiCup being used as a locus of collaboration; if you know of any collaborative efforts going on, or want to start anything up, please feel free to use the WikiCup talk page to help find interested editors. As well as fostering collaboration, we're also seeing the Cup encouraging the improvement of high-importance articles through the bonus point system. Highlights from the last month include GAs on physicist Niels Bohr, on the European hare , on the constellation Circinus ( and ) and on the Third Epistle of John. All of these subjects were covered on at least 50 Wikipedias at the beginning of the year and, subsequently, each contribution was awarded at least three times as many points as normal.

Wikipedians who enjoy friendly competition may be interested in participating in April's wikification drive. While wikifying an article is typically not considered "significant work" such that it can be claimed for WikiCup points, such gnomish work is often invaluable in keeping articles in shape, and is typically very helpful for new writers who may not be familiar with formatting norms.

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WikiCup 2013 April newsletter
We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and  claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place and second place  both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.

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WikiCup 2013 June newsletter
We are down to our final 16: the 2013 semi-finals are upon us. A score of 321 was required to survive round 3, further cementing this as the most competitive WikiCup yet; round 3 was survived in 2012 with 243 points, in 2011 with 76 points and in 2010 with 250 points. The change may in part be to do with the fact that more articles are now awarded bonus points, in addition to more competitive play. Reaching the final has, in the past, required 573 points (2012, a 135% increase on the score needed to reach round 4), 150 points (2011, a 97% increase) and 417 points (2010, a 72% increase). This round has seen over a third of participants claiming points for featured articles (with seven users claiming for multiple featured articles) and most users have also gained bonus points. However, the majority of points continue to come from good articles, followed by did you know articles. In this round, every content type was utilised by at least one user, proving that the WikiCup brings together content contributors from all corners of the project.

Round 3 saw a number of contributions of note. claimed the first featured topic points in this year's competition for her excellent work on topics related to Maya Angelou, the noted American author and poet. We have also continued to see high-importance articles improved as part of the competition: was awarded a thoroughly well-earned 560 points for her featured article Middle Ages and 102 points for her good article Battle of Hastings. Good articles James Chadwick and Stanislaw Ulam netted 102 and 72 points respectively, while 72 points were awarded to  for each of Władysław Sikorski and Emilia Plater, both recently promoted to good article status. Collaborative efforts between WikiCup participants have continued, with, for example, and  being awarded 180 points each for their featured article on Boletus luridus.

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Hey Lucky102! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
 * VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
 * Foo and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:06, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Lucky102

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
 * Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links ./that look like this (50720)
 * Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (50423)
 * Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (50415)
 * The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
 * Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
 * Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
 * The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
 * Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
 * Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
 * The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
 * Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:16, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Myahri


A tag has been placed on Myahri requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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VE newsletter
Hey Lucky102! Another set of patches :). Today we have:


 * Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
 * Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
 * If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
 * You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter
Hey Lucky102; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:


 * If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
 * If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
 * If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
 * sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
 * If you type at the end of links, they now extend
 * Templates now only take a single click to insert
 * Clear annotations clears links (50461)
 * The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
 * Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
 * Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
 * References made by tag:ref now display properly (50978)
 * The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
 * Feedbacl link goes to the right language (47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:26, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Hey Lucky102. The newest updates: Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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WikiCup 2013 July newsletter
We're halfway through this year's penultimate round, and the competition is moving along well. Pool A's currently leads overall, while Pool B's  is second. Both leaders are WikiCup veterans, and both have already scored over 600 points this month. If the round were to end today,, with 274 points, would be the lowest-scoring participant to make it through. This indicates that participants will need a score comparable to last year's (573, the highest ever) to qualify for the final. The high scores this year are a testament both to the quality of participants and to the increased focus on significant content (eligible for bonus points) in this year's competition. So far this round, both Sasata and have made up over half of their score through bonus points, with, for example, high importance FA koala earning Sasata a total of 440 points (from a multiplier of 4.4) and high-importance GA sea earning Cwmhiraeth a total of 216 points (from a multiplier of 7.2). Other articles on important topics submitted this round include a featured article on the Norman conquest of England by, and good articles on Nobel laureate in literature Henryk Sienkiewicz, Nobel laureate in physics Hans Bethe, and the noted Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. These articles are by, and Sturmvogel_66 respectively.

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Proposed deletion of Peter Gans
Hello, Lucky102. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Peter Gans, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Peter Gans to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

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VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013
It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages, scrolling and deleting  on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are s defined inside a ) (bug 53345).  Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text.  This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:41, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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Sydney September 2013 edit-a-thon invite
Hi there! You are cordially invited to an edit-a-thon this Saturday (21 September) in Sydney at the State Library of New South Wales (SLNSW), where you can collaborate with other Wikipedians throughout the day. Andy Carr, a senior librarian at SLNSW will also be helping out. The theme of the edit-a-thon is paralympics sports, but you are free to come along to meet other wiki contributors, and edit other topics.

If you are unable to attend in person, we will also be collaborating online. Details and an attendee list are at Meetup/Sydney/September 2013. Hope you can make it! John Vandenberg 09:29, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add  (underline),   (subscript), and   (superscript),   (strikethrough) and   (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl up to Ctrl sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Saara Aalto
Hello! Your submission of Saara Aalto at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Allen3 talk 11:51, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 September newsletter
In 30 days, we will know the identity of our 2013 WikiCup champion. currently leads; if that lead is held, she will become the first person to have won the WikiCup twice. , —who has never participated in the competition before—and follow. The majority of points in this round have come from a mix of good articles and bonus points. This final round is seeing contributions to a number of highly important topics; recent submissions include Phoenix (constellation) (FA by Casliber), Ernest Lawrence (GA by Hawkeye7), Pinniped, and red fox (both GAs by Sasata).

The did you know (DYK) eligibility criteria have recently changed, meaning that newly passed good articles are accepted as "new" for did you know purposes. However, in the interests of not changing the WikiCup rules mid-competition, please note that only articles eligible for DYK under the old system (that is, newly created articles or 5x expansions) will be eligible for points in this year's WikiCup. We do, however, have time to discuss how this new system will work for next year's competition; a discussion will be opened in due course. On that note, thoughts are welcome on changes you'd like to see for next year. What worked? What didn't work? What would you like to see more of? What would you like to see less of? All Wikipedians, new or old, are also warmly invited to sign up for the 2014 WikiCup.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)