User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 24

Re: Request for page protection
Thank you for protecting the page for another week and the link. Reading through all the help pages in here I was not finding WP:RFPP. --Gereon K. (talk) 22:23, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No worries! If you don't mind me asking, what help pages were you consulting? Sounds like maybe they could use an update! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:52, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Vandalism for instance has a big banner saying "To report persistent vandalism, visit WP:AIV. Q10817957 on Wikidata has the link to Administrator intervention against vandalism but the link to the equivalent pages of most other language versions are much more general. I should have looked at Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Editing,_creating,_and_maintaining_articles/Dealing_with_vandalism_and_spam but that I could only find in the overloaded Help:Directory. Just finding my way in here. :-) --Gereon K. (talk) 23:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I dunno, that missing manual is very outdated, I think. The Help directory probably also could use a facelift... for sure learning the ropes isn't exactly easy! Anyway I've updated the hatnote at Vandalism, so hopefully that will help others as well. Thanks for providing this much needed input. We as a community really need to simplify our guides and help pages &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:29, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Betascript
You added a Betascript book as a source for Peel Sessions (The Smashing Pumpkins EP). Unfortunately, Betascript aka VDM Publishing write their books by copying Wikipedia. See WP:ALPHASCRIPT and WP:PUS for more info. Fences &amp;  Windows  00:50, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Rats, I missed that! Thank you for both noticing and letting me know :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:38, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Not sure what to do with this one
Hi again M. I am not sure how to get this Template:FACT out of the cat. It showed up a couple days ago when this request was made on Template talk:FACT. I thought that it might drop from the cat when the request was answered but it just moved to the redirect. I tried a null edit on that talk page but it made no difference. The template page is fully protected so I can't make any fixes there. Hopefully you will be able to figure out what is going on. As ever thanks for your time. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:31, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I just removed the protection info from this is a redirect and that worked. Based on the language, I think it implied the redirect itself is protected, which it is not. So should be good now. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:39, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Good deal. I've just notice that when you perform a null edit you put a space on the page before hitting save. Up until now I have simply opened the edit field and then hit save function. That has worked most of the time in getting a page out of the cat. I now know to try it both ways. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 18:44, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah wait... a WP:NULLEDIT doesn't require a change. I've been doing it wrong, then! I guess what I did was for WP:DUMMY edits, so as to supply an edit summary &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not know the distinction between the two so thanks for adding to my learning about WikiP. That also helps to explain why my null edit didn't work but your dummy edit did in this situation. Ah the mysteries of Wikiprogamming only come clear a little at a time :-) MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:00, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Happy Saturday MA. User:BuickCenturyDriver showed up in the cat and as it is fully protected I can't get at it to fix things. Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 11:08, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for the AWB permission, hopefully you enjoyed the humor! I am working on upping my non-automated EC, but I came to Wikipedia to gnome, and that is what I plan on doing for the time being :) --allthefoxes (Talk) 03:43, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I laughed out loud :) It's true that not everyone writes content, and that's okay. You seem to quite adept at gnoming so keep it up! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:59, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Question
Where do we report ip hopping vandals like found on Fireman Sam that you just protected? This is a pattern of abuse. Is SPI the right place (there's no associated account that I know of though). Or just to AIV?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 16:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * If disruption is limited to just a few pages, than WP:RFPP is still the best route. Doesn't look like the IPs are all in the same range so blocking may not be effective. For a very long-term pattern of abuse you could open up a LTA case, meant only to document the disruption so we know how to better deal with it moving forward &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:01, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Cool, thank you. The user has hit various pages in the past, but the past day or two has limited themselves to the Fireman Sam pages for some reason. If they are relentless, I'll report to AIV just to stop the disruption. Hopefully the page protection will help. Thanks again!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 17:13, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thank you for keeping an eye on the situation! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:14, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Spoke too soon. They've moved on. I'll give "only warning" and go to AIV if they continue.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 17:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Highlighted indents
Hey MusikAnimal. Did you get any further looking in to how we could enable the highlighting of indented replies? I'd be interested to see it proposed to the community to see what they think. Sam Walton (talk) 10:17, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have not. I can try to figure it out (probably just a config change), then maybe post at WP:VPI? I'd like to see if people are even in favour of the idea before making a formal proposal &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:41, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi MusikAnimal
Hi MusikAnimal. Can you fully and indefinitely page protect these Tip-of-the-day Talk pages so we do not have to monitor them for vandalism? They are are set up as redirects to the Tip-of-the-day master Talk page. It would be a burden on us to monitor them and easy to miss changes to them. Thank you for your efforts in the Tip-of-the-day department and in the Articles for Improvement Department (TAFI).
 * (redirects at )

Cheers! 06:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Have we noticed vandalism on any of them as of yet? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Trying to pre-empt it so we don't have to birddog them with our Watchlist's. We have no need to update the pages going forward so locking them down will not be an inconvenience to anybody. Cheers!  18:47, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, I've semi-protected all the pages. If disruption happens from confirmed users we can deal with them, but I don't particularly feel inclined to fully protect. In general we don't preemptively protect pages, but given the circumstances a little WP:IAR was exercised &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:12, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Yea, I need help
Per the marijuana dispensary page you just removed...

This should not redirect to medical cannabis. It should redirect to the article that was here before user Viriditas hastily removed it using the following uncited reason: " (Viriditas moved page Marijuana dispensary to Medical cannabis dispensary: "Marijuana" is a non-neutral term popularized by racists and prohibitionists) "

Can someone please bring the page that belongs here back from the draft mode Viriditas incorrectly placed it in?

--Potguru (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As I said on your talk page, your draft exists in full at Draft:Cannabis dispensary. I'm not sure it's ready for the mainspace just yet. There are numerous editors working on that draft, perhaps you could consult them on the talk page to see if they feel it's time to move the article over. This is a controversial subject, so it's important to ensure we've got it in good shape, especially when other editors have expressed concern that it is not ready for the encyclopedia. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Vandalism still occurs. Extend PC? --George Ho (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello from JoeHebda
Greetings, After Tip of the Day protection changes, my entire Watchlist is gone. Any way of getting it back? JoeHebda  (talk)  19:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh boy. Well obviously, your watchlist will eventually go back to the way it was... In the meantime you may wish to unwatch those pages altogether. You can do this fairly quickly with User:Anomie/unwatch.js. Alternatively you could select "Wikipedia talk" from the "Namespace" dropdown, then check the "Invert selection" option and click on "Show". This will show everything in your watchlist except Wikipedia_talk pages, which is what all those protections were to. Sorry for the inconvenience! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * First of all, apology accepted. Wondering why this change was made without any discussion & consensus at Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day? Most of the work updating & improving this project is being done by myself and and . All 366 daily tips are on my watchlist to monitor for errors & spam, so I'm not about to unwatch them. Secondly, being still somewhat new here at Wikipedia, and curious, could you explain the effect of this change?  JoeHebda   (talk)  00:56, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No real change was made on my part. I merely semi-protected these permanent redirects to Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day, meaning only confirmed users can edit them. That cuts out most chances of disruption, as users with 10+ edits over a 4-day period are considerably less likely to be disruptive. However I was wrong to say you could unwatch the pages, as unwatching talk pages means you unwatch the corresponding subject page (e.g. Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day/January 20 and it's subject page Tip of the day/January 20). The subject pages are not semi'd as far as I know, so you'd still want to monitor them :) Hopefully that clears things up. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  01:50, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi . It was my fault. I did not realize the downside of requesting that. I considered it to be a simple helpful task and it only took MusikAnimal a couple of minutes to pull it off because of his Admin toolbox. I noticed that Talk pages for tips were either unused, full on nonsense, tests, spam, or had weird unanswered questions because nobody was monitoring them so I converted them to Redirects with AWB and then asked MusikAnimal to protect them from future changes since we do not use them and all future correspondence will therefore land on our Project Talk page. I promise to discuss such changes in the future. PS: It only clogged up about 1/3rd of my Watchlist which I quickly paged down and past. But, I honestly did not realize it would do what it did. Now I know. Cheers!  02:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)


 * MusikAnimal and [[Image:Tournesol.png|43px]] Thank you for explaining. Cheers!  JoeHebda   (talk)  12:46, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for improving the Twinkle CSD module. Have something sweet with your coffee and a fresh rose still on the bush. Bishonen &#124; talk 16:33, 21 January 2016 (UTC).


 * Thank you !! More updates to come, but glad to see some of you are enjoying what we've come up with thus far :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Fianna Fail
The page protection request for Fianna Fail was without foundation, the section that was edited that was "sourced", was POV in favor of the political party, and the source used was a Fianna Fail statement by one of their politicians. There even had been no consensus to include that section. There was no "disruptive editing" contrary to what the submitter stated, and the explanation for removing the "reliably sourced material" aka political posturing or spin etc, was already given.

Note: Be aware of positive spin being added on other Irish political party pages also, there is an election within a month. Tyrsóg (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The content dispute is outside the scope of why I semi'd the page. There was repeated reversions of edits from anonymous users, by multiple editors, that tells my semi-protection will force discussion. This is opposed to full-protection, where only admins can edit. That is not ideal as we're shutting out everyone from editing, even the uninvolved. Semi-protection doesn't mean I'm taking sides &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

A pie for you!

 * Yum! Thank you! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:39, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Bach protection
Please see this request at RFPP. An editor wants full protection of Bach extended for the duration of the new RfC. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:27, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello from Miniapolis
The request for clarification in which you were involved has been archived at WT:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Palestine-Israel articles 3. For the Arbitration Committee,  Mini  apolis  20:53, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I admittedly don't really understand the process on those ArbCom pages... was there a "result" or closing statement to go with those closures? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:08, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been puzzled by the same thing. It's most likely a no-action result. Or the kind of a request that expires off ANI without being closed. It doesn't mean that there was truly no issue found, but, that no decision was arrived at in the available time. EdJohnston (talk) 18:32, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Impersonator (Haiku!)
An admirer Appears. Suspicious? Indeed. Thank you for your time.

GABHello! 20:52, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know! And for the beautiful haiku :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I try. GABHello! 21:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to the Google Doodle task force
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User:Hydtd
Hey MusikAnimal,

That account is actually a vandalism only account and a sock of User:Tdrhsnam. There has been a long term problem with them adding anime character to Capital punishment in Japan. Could you block indef instead of 24 hours? Thanks. --Majora (talk) 19:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:20, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

ACC interface access
Hey - how was Belize? I've heard it's beautiful - have a friend who's been diving there several times. Hope you're refreshed and recharged! :-)

Katie is here today because Katie needs her access to the ACC interface restored for UTRS (have an appeal from a guy caught in a rangeblock who needs a username created) and she's wandering the hallways knocking on doors to find someone to do it. The lovely "you haven't been here for 45 days, so eat worms" message says to ask Stifle, but Stifle says he hasn't had ACC access himself for years and the message needs to be changed. Can you help, and if you can't, do you know whose doorway I should knock on next? Katietalk 12:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hey Katie! Belize was awesome! Lots of Commons photos coming soon. I didn't get to dive the Great Blue Hole but I hear it's just a dark abyss with no marine life so maybe it's nothing to complain about. The reefs just offshore were plenty amazing :) I am not actually involved with the account creation team so can't help you there. You need to an ACC admin, they are listed here. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Katietalk 17:05, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Google Doodle task force collaboration for 4 February 2016

 * (Note that this doodle is only targeted to German users of Google.)


 * Just a note in re. Special:Diff/703209364: For this collaboration it is an exception as the genesis one, but only doodles with a reach of more than 50 countries will have an associated notice. Esquivalience  t 04:05, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Good to know! Just curious, how are you able to gauge the global reach of a doodle? We might want to consider a different way of determining what doodles get the spotlight. For instance the Independence Day (United States) article is going to attract a wealth of attention on 4 July, even though the doodle would only be visible in the US. Also, what about when there are multiple doodles? I know this project has just began, and we might still have some things to iron out, and that's okay. Lest you be concerned, I definitely want to be a part of it, I'm just content with watching Today's articles for improvement/Google Doodle task force/article to see the new collaborations :) Thanks for helping put this together! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  04:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Rollback questions, etc
Hi there. I'm User:Vaselineeeeeeee. I noticed you gave approvals etc to some users in the rollbacking request page. I've had some interest in the past few months about the application for rollback and pending changes review. I read that it is given to trusted users etc who revert vandalism etc. I've been on Wikipedia for almost two years now, but only started seriously editing in the past 8 months or so. The reason for this question is that I have a concern that in my early days, I didn't take Wikipedia seriously and entered a few rather pointless edit wars, causing me to be blocked several times. I was also accused of sock-puppetry and an investigation was filed against me. I am afraid to apply since administrators might take one look at that and deny me right way... I truly have made a full 360 as an editor, I understand most of the rules and truly believe I deserve these rights, as vandalism has no place in my book any longer. If you guys were to look at my edits in the past 8 months, you'd be very pleased. Do you think I should still apply, or would I be denied right away, or would the administrators assume good faith of my past positive contributions? Thanks for your time! Vaselineeeeeeee (talk) 04:00, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello! Glad to see you've turned over a new leaf, as you say. Many people have a rough start and prosper into prolific and well-respected editors, so don't feel discouraged. Taking a quick look at your recent contributions, I'm not sure if rollback is appropriate just yet. One of the more important things is distinguishing good-faith edits from vandalism, and acting accordingly. For instance this edit seems to constitute good-faith, and while it may still be inappropriate, you should supply an informative edit summary saying why that is the case. This edit is actually constructive, and preferable for some, as the addition of / will correct syntax highlighters that don't know that is an empty element. I assume you didn't know that because it purely techy mumbo jumbo, so no worries, the point I guess is to be cautious about reverting and try to do it only when necessary. If you want to get more involved with fighting vandalism, I recommend enrolling in the counter-vandalism academy. If you complete training there you will surely be granted rollback by any sensible admin. Hope this helps, and keep up the great work! :) &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  04:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

A well-earned beer for you!

 * Haha thank you, fortunately most of the work was already done by wmf:User:Mforns (WMF) – he is the one who really deserves the barnstar. I'd prefer to keep the beer (and the kiss) for myself, though, if that's alright :) I still plan to improve the tool more, but at least we've got something up that works! Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:19, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wow, so a WMF person actually pitched in and did it! I take back all the nasty things I was saying about the WMF. But I bet you recruited him to do it, didn't you? --MelanieN (talk) 22:26, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope. The demo has been up since mid-November, I just didn't realize it was both an accurate working prototype, and also an all-frontend app that I could fork and edit myself. For a web developer it's silly I didn't realize this, as the whole premise is the WMF made an pageview API, meaning you don't need a backend. That may or may not make any sense... anyway it's here now, and here to stay :) The forthcoming WMF official tool and/or the one the commtech is working on I think will be much more full-featured &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Saw your last comment at WP:VPT and have some semi-bad news... The data you're seeing now is going to be dramatically higher than what the old tool would report, since the pageview API includes mobile views whereas stats.grok.se did not. So not sure if your DYK still breaks the record for most-viewed :/ But the good news is we now finally have data that is not grossly inaccurate!! I'm curious as to what the DYK project is planning on doing. The new data only goes back as far as August 1st, 2015. Anything reported before then cannot be compared with the new data, as they are measured differently. Anyway thanks for making this little project so rewarding :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  07:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe they're going to have to change the rules for what "goes into the record books"; up to now it's been 5,000 views. They may have to change that after they see how February goes. The actual numbers aren't terribly important to me, I'm just glad that article (Sandy Cornish, if you're interested) got a lot of viewers. I had hoped and sort of expected that it would; very interesting subject. --MelanieN (talk) 14:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. The numbers may not turn out to be all that different after all. I just compared a DYK of mine from December 2015: it had 1194 views per the old system and 1258 per the new system. That's only a 5% increase. --MelanieN (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey, MusikAnimal, a question – is this project that you and Marcel Ruiz Forns are working on part of the Community Tech/Pageview stats tool project? Or is your work on your Page Views tool just coincidental and/or ancillary to the 2015 Community Wishlist Survey/Top 10 projects?... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 08:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Coincidental. I did not know about the commtech project until after I created this fork of the demo. I guess I should try to team up with them. Originally for me it was just a temporary project to get something up for people to use, but now I think I'd like to dedicate more time to it and add more features &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Talkback
Wasn't sure if this one is in your watchlist. --Drm310 (talk) 00:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:53, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

2016 GA Cup
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! It's turning out to be a very fun project. More updates to come :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello M. Thanks for the block on this one. It is appreciated. Would it be possible to rev/del the personal attacks in the edit summaries? Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Removed the more offensive ones. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:25, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanx    Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 16:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. What about this one? If you are okay with it then no worries. As you say it wasn't as obnoxious as the others. Happy Chinese Year of the Monkey!! MarnetteD&#124;Talk 16:31, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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JSON data on tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews
Hello! Some time ago I wrote a PHP program that calculates monthly page view statistics for a group of articles, using statistics data available from http://stats.grok.se/. Unfortunately, stats.grok.se hasn't been updated since January 21, 2016, which effectively makes it no longer usable. A fellow editor who also uses the PHP program pointed out the availability of http://tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews to me, and I had a look into it as a replacement for stats.grok.se.

Basically, what I need is the ability to fetch JSON-encoded statistics data from my PHP program, but I don't see how would that be possible for the current state of tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews? For example, January 2016 statistics for a single article does provide a "download JSON" link on the page, but the click on it seems to be handled by some JavaScript code, which effectively makes it unusable to my PHP program. Any chances, please, for having a GET parameter that would make JSON data to be returned instead of a HTML page, similarly to how stats.grok.se does it?

Any help would be appreciated, and thank you for all your work on tools.wmflabs.org/musikanimal/pageviews! &mdash; Dsimic (talk &#124; contribs) 19:11, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I figured this request was coming. Unfortunately, my tool is all clientside and cannot produce an endpoint that responds with JSON. I do have a backend on labs, so I could implement an API for you... BUT, the Wikimedia Foundation has already done this! I'm going to guess what they offer will fulfill your needs... see the documentation here &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:18, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That page views data API looks great, I'll have a look into it. Thank you! &mdash; Dsimic (talk &#124; contribs) 19:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

pageviews
Hello, your tool pageviews shows for projít one view click (it changes the first letter to uppercase?). On the other side I get 8 views: click. Can you ps explain me, why there is a difference? --Betterknower (talk) 20:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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Sorry...
Page loaded, I clicked on touchscreen, then it updated itself putting the rollback link in the spot where I'd clicked. Sorry. Bazj (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem! There is a default-enabled gadget that requires confirmation for rollback on touch screen devices. Maybe you disabled it? Check at Special:Preferences &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  17:05, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's still set. The confirmation pops up, I click Cancel, and it reverts regardless. Bazj (talk) 17:17, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Really!?!?!? I will look into that! What browser/device are you using? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:21, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Chrome on a Google Nexus 5 using the desktop version of the Wiki. But it's got to have detected I'm on a mobile device to have fired the pop-up. Bazj (talk) 17:30, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I tried using Chrome on a Nexus 6P, in desktop, and hitting "Cancel" in the pop-up aborted the rollout. From a JavaScript perspective, I don't know how this could be broken – not that I'm doubting you! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Wikipages can take a longish time to load on my phone, 5-10 seconds, perhaps due to the amount of stuff in my common.js. If the browser grabs my click before all the js has loaded...? Just a guess. Cheers, Bazj (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That is a very good guess, however it being a gadget it's behind ResourceLoader, so it should load before the document is ready. By contrast, everything in your common.js is loaded after the document is ready. If you're ever around a fast internet connection, try it out again and see if it works, if you get a chance. Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:48, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It won't be down to the speed. The phone's connected to the home wi-fi which is running at 72 Mbps right now.
 * I've tried disabling a couple of scripts from my common.js, User:NuclearWarfare/Mark-blocked script.js which calls to ru: and User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js (reFill) which calls to meta: and which I can run from a bookmarklet when I need it. I'll give it a couple of days and see how it goes. Regards, Bazj (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've tried disabling a couple of scripts from my common.js, User:NuclearWarfare/Mark-blocked script.js which calls to ru: and User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js (reFill) which calls to meta: and which I can run from a bookmarklet when I need it. I'll give it a couple of days and see how it goes. Regards, Bazj (talk) 16:05, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Account Creator
Hello, Musik. I am going to be working at the Yale Art+Feminism Wikipedia Training and Edit-a-thon. The organizers are hoping to have somebody create lots of accounts for the attendees. What do you think is the best way to approach this. I have no experience in the area, though I am an administrator. Jehochman Talk 17:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You can create accounts here. For this purpose you should not check "Ignore spoofing checks" or "Ignore the blacklist" (but you could if you were creating a doppelgänger, for instance). Beyond that I honestly am not too sure about the procedure either. I imagine you assign a default password which you would then ask them to change. When in doubt you can defer to the account creation team. Also feel free to assign the account creator right to other users who want to help create accounts for the event. Just make sure you can trust them, and that they know not to check the ignore spoofing and blacklist options. Additionally, it is standard procedure to remove the account creator right after the event has concluded, so don't forget to do that. Hope this helps! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:26, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You can click the "use a temporary random password" button, and they'll be emailed an automatically generated password that they can change. Sam Walton (talk) 23:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Aha! That makes significantly more sense :) I always wondered what the procedure was &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  23:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the advice! It's really helpful.  Jehochman Talk 02:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)