User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 94

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Underpopulated category


A tag has been placed on Template:Underpopulated category requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion discussion, such as at Articles for deletion. When a page has substantially identical content to that of a page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. DannyS712 (talk) 21:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Missed that, oh well. North America1000 21:21, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
 * Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers.

Problems
 * You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis.
 * A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back.
 * Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site.
 * The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return   (empty string). When you read a page it will return   (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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MfD nomination of Portal:Today's article for improvement
Portal:Today's article for improvement, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Today's article for improvement and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Today's article for improvement during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 23:24, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Your April Fool subpage
Is it okay if I make "Supreme faceplam of destiny" into a separate template? Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 11:15, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi : Actually, it is already a template; already been done. Check out the Demonstrations section at Template:Facepalm. North America1000 11:20, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Cheese dishes
Portal:Cheese dishes, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cheese dishes and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Cheese dishes during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 20:02, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Mondelez International
Portal:Mondelez International, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Mondelez International and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Mondelez International during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 23:47, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Kroger
Portal:Kroger, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kroger and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Kroger during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 04:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Albertsons
Portal:Albertsons, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Albertsons and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Albertsons during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 05:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:Formerly curated portals that are presently automated has been nominated for discussion
Category:Formerly curated portals that are presently automated, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Indirect mention at a DRV
Appropriate to draw your attention to Deletion review/Log/2019 April 3 as I've raised the WP:SOCKSTRIKE there which you performed. I wouldn't particularly expect you to both strike and speedy keep. I know we currently dispute about 168 hours but this has nothing to do with that .... you actually achieve so much throughput at AfD's its pretty amazing. But a courtesy seems appropriate.15:55, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have made no edits to that page, zero (as of this post). You must have me confused with another user. North America1000 15:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies for putting it badly, it was the DRV is discussing.  Nothing wrong in what you did but I have perhaps commented a WP:SPEEDY might have saved an acrimonious AfD.  That is hindsight. Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:12, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * All right. I may not become further involved in this matter, though (e.g. DrV). North America1000 16:47, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Absolutely fine. From my own viewpoint I'm just happier your aware in case anyone does anything than ignore my comment I'd prefer from my own comfort I'd notified your first.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 16:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

 * Hi – Thanks, and back at you! Your user page is much more colorful. I may change mine around again eventually when I have some free time to do so. North America1000 10:20, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Art paintings
Please, can you find for me the names of these paintings in an anime series: video 1 (17:51); video 2 (12:22, 18:09). Thank you. --87.14.25.210 15:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.14.25.210 (talk)
 * Not sure what you need the information for, but this is not an area I am knowledgeable in. If you are searching for information to improve an article on Wikipedia, you can request assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. North America1000 17:07, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).

Administrator changes
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Bureaucrat changes
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Technical news
 * In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Please see meta:Community health initiative/User reporting system consultation 2019 to provide your input on this idea.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee clarified that the General 1RR prohibition for Palestine-Israel articles may only be enforced on pages with the ARBPIA 1RR editnotice edit notice.

Miscellaneous
 * Two more administrator accounts were compromised. Evidence has shown that these attacks, like previous incidents, were due to reusing a password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. All admins are strongly encouraged to enable two-factor authentication, please consider doing so. Please always practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
 * As a reminder, according to WP:NOQUORUM, administrators looking to close or relist an AfD should evaluate a nomination that has received few or no comments as if it were a proposed deletion (PROD) prior to determining whether it should be relisted.

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Tech News: 2019-16
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikidata will get a new constraint status called . This will change how the   constraint checking API works.
 * You can test the  property for structured data on Commons.

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Activities
I've been helping to solve problems by volunteering my time to restore older portals that have been automated back to their pre-automated versions. It is very time-consuming, laborious, can involve many steps, and requires a strong attention to detail. It also requires having a strong knowledge of how portals are designed, their layout, coding and wiki markup, portal templates, portal guidelines, etc., knowledge that many users may not necessarily possess. I'm not aware offhand of others who have taken up this task. It would be great if others who are competent in such matters would consider pitching-in. One person can only do so much. North America1000 16:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

FAOSTAT data for agricultural production
Hi, I find it interesting how agricultural production data for the same year (2016) from FAOSTAT changed from when I visited the site in August last year. For instance in List of countries by eggplant production, production values for many countries changed, some by a bit (e.g. 2,042 million tonnes to 2,043 for Serbia), and some by a lot (e.g. 47,843 to 25,844 for Saudi Arabia), while many did not change at all. Do you know why this is?

Also, do you suggest I update all 2016 data for all 'List of countries by xxx production' articles because of this change (if I haven't already), or just leave them the same as when I first added this data last year? J ACKINTHE  B  OX   • TALK 04:53, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Not sure why eggplant numbers would vary so much, but I'd bet researching the matter could provide some answers. It could be that less was planted. Regarding your second question, I'd have to look into the matter more to think it over, but I'm very busy working on entirely different matters at this time. North America1000 16:50, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I meant that when I looked up 2016 agricultural production data for different countries recently, I found that production values for many countries have changed from when I looked up 2016 agricultural production data last year, sometimes dramatically. I'm just confused why data for the same year would change after visiting the same website a few months later. (Likewise, you wouldn't expect GDP values for countries in 2000 to change over the course of the next few months, right?) That's why I asked whether I should change all 2016 agricultural production data to the "updated" version (I'm not sure whether this version would be more accurate). Regards J ACKINTHE  B  OX   • TALK 17:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * As of late, I may not have time to research this matter, as I have been very busy working on other matters on wiki, which is compounded by having to keep up with matters in real life. Just a heads up about recent events. Sorry. You may be able to get more input at Wikiproject Agriculture, or perhaps on the talk pages of articles you're looking to update. North America1000 00:21, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Re-listing rationale for TCOLondon
Hi there. This is in reference to your re-listing of TCOLondon at Articles for deletion/TCOLondon for further discussion. I'm curious to know what your thoughts were on the re-list and whether or not, in your opinion, I need to defend the article further. With only myself and the nominator participating in the discussion, I understand why you might have made that choice, but it is kind of hard to tell which direction the debate is currently leaning and I would appreciate it if you could give your opinion on it. If this question/comment is inappropriate in any way please accept my apologies. I do not intend to create any trouble, I'm just trying to understand. Thanks and sorry to bother you. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 18:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The discussion has received minimal input, and it is sometimes best to allow more time for more users to opine in such cases, in hopes that an actual consensus can be formed, rather than closing the discussion as "no consensus". Relisting allows more time for the community to respond and for more opinions to be posted and considered. Also, you mentioned the notion of a redirect in your !vote, but the nominator did not address this when they replied after your !vote. Also, asking questions here is no problem at all, feel free to do so anytime. Lastly, check out WP:RELIST for more information about the relisting process on Wikipedia. North America1000 20:04, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Metro Manila
Hi. Can you help me delete the above link that currently redirects to Portal:Manila? Will be creating a separate one for the region as the scopes are very different. Thanks! I keep getting the message "the page has been marked for deletion under WP:G6" when i tried editing it to start the new region portal.--RioHondo (talk) 10:09, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi I don't think the page needs to be deleted. You can just remove the redirect from the Portal:Metro Manila page by blanking it and start editing. Same goes for its talk page. If you are planning on creating a portal, I strongly recommend creating it in the old style with transcluded subpages. Automated portals are being mass deleted at Miscellany for deletion. Also beware that even a well-curated portal that uses transcluded, custom-edited subpages could also be nominated for deletion, so be sure the topic passes WP:POG. It would be unfortunate if you were to spend hours creating a portal only to have it deleted per a bunch of fleeting "delete per nom" !votes. Also be aware that the guidelines at WP:POG may change, becoming stricter. North America1000 10:18, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Will be reading up on the manual first and start experimenting and following the portal creation steps. It's a national capital region containing the small capital city that has its own portal so i don't think there would be an issue with notability. Thanks again--RioHondo (talk) 12:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I would strongly suggest taking the Manila portal and converting it to Metro Manila or National Capital Region of Manila or whatever the appropriate name is. Creating a portal that overlaps the scope of an existing portal will see the new portal deleted at MfD if not speedy deleted as an WP:A10. Metro Manila qualifies for a portal under current guidelines but not if it largely duplicates another portal. Legacypac (talk) 18:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

– Pinging per the new post here. North America1000 18:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Examples include Portal:Greater Los Angeles, Portal:San Francisco Bay Area, and Portal:Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex, none of which have portals for the core cities in them. Pages within the scope of these metro areas have been or will be soon deleted. Legacypac (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * : I suggest you check out WP:MFD and take a gander at all of the deletion discussions occurring for portals there. Over 1,500 are nominated at this time, probably more. This is not meant to tell you to participate there or not, or if you do, how to participate, or what to do in any manner, because I don't canvass. I'm just pointing this out because it's only fair for you to at least be aware of current events in relation to your interest in creating a portal. Fact is, per the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC (Ending the system of portals), many users supported the nomination statement, "Should the system of portals be ended? This would include the deletion of all portal pages and the removal of the portal namespace." North America1000 00:31, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it took a while for me to respond, as i kinda lost my appetite too upon seeing all the deleted portals and a lot more nominated for deletion by BGH flashed in our local noticeboard, which i check regularly. Let's see, i'll probably just wait it out a bit and see if the city portal survives this purge, and when the dust settles, will do what needs to be done. Thanks a lot for your guidance though.--RioHondo (talk) 16:19, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You bet. Happy editing! North America1000 01:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Kuala Lumpur
Portal:Kuala Lumpur, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Kuala Lumpur and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Kuala Lumpur during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Positivism
Portal:Positivism, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Positivism and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Positivism during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 17:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Main Line train wreck
You may not know it, but you caused a strange kind of train wreck on the MFD main line. You inserted the name, enclosed in curly braces, of WikiProject:Nintendo. The curly braces functioned as magic words to transclude the table of contents of the project. I had to de-activate them with nowiki. I am sure that you had no idea that you were doing that. Please don't do that again. Don't insert a template name into an XFD. It does weird things. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Yep, looks like transcluding content other than MfD discussions there isn't going to work out. Thanks for the heads up. North America1000 22:49, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:North Africa
Portal:North Africa, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Africa and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:North Africa during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:22, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Pigs
Portal:Pigs, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Pigs& and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Pigs during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:32, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook.
 * The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikipedia articles will have the  meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test.

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Was on business trip.
Sorry for the unexplained absence. I was on a business trip in Montreal. I am back now. Thank you. AmericanAir88(<b style="color: darkred">talk</b>) 02:03, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

General information

 * Be careful about taking the WP:BAIT; some people will just say anything.
 * Boring, ad hom finger pointing in discussions does not improve articles or content. Partisanship is the opposite of objectivity.

New and newish articles

 * Cherry juice
 * Prune juice
 * List of syrups

New article ideas

 * Silencing the opposition
 * See also: Groupthink

Portal dilemma and vicious circle
A strange and unfortunate vicious circle exists regarding Wikipedia's portals at this time. At MfD, it has become apparent that fully-automated portals are not desired by many, as demonstrated by the hundreds of delete !votes for them there and deletions that have been occurring. A serious problem is that literally thousands of older, non-automated portal subpages were tagged en masse with this notice as being qualifiable per WP:G6 housekeeping speedy deletion based upon the premise that the pages were outdated per the existence of the newer automated portals that were created, which are now being deleted. So now, both new and old are all tagged up for deletion or potential deletion.

The G6 tagging jeopardizes the reversion of the disliked automated portals to previous, curated/manually created versions, because then users have the extra steps figuring out which pages were deleted, denoting it, requesting WP:REFUNDs for the deleted pages, waiting for the undeletion to occur, and then going back to the portal to make sure it works out and/or make corrections. It's a real time sink. The G6 notices also lack any markup, so when restoring a portal back to a non-automated state, the notice appears throughout the portal, even on the box-header and box-footer areas. Removing the notices is time-consuming, and some users may not understand how to access the transcluded subpages to remove the notices.

There seems to be some sort of bandwagon effect occurring, and some have become so excited about getting portal pages deleted, wherever they may be, that they may not be thinking matters through or performing research first. So, now hundreds of automated portals have been nominated for deletion, and meantime, thousands of portal subpages are marked for potential speedy deletion, which hinders the preservation of thousands and thousands of hours of editors' work in portal namespace. It's literally ass-backward. It goes to show that when overly an WP:EAGER, rampant desire for deletion on Wikipedia occurs, it can lead to real problems.

There are way too many discussions on too many various pages occurring about portals simultaneously, to the point that it's highly disorganized and nobody is in touch with what others are doing or discussing. Said discussions should all occur in one area, such as the Village Pump. North America1000 00:54, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Eliza Acton
As a food editor, you'll be interested in today's FA. There's an issue about her recipe for Christmas pudding which I've raised at WP:ERRORS. As an admin, you may be able to help out. Andrew D. (talk) 16:30, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Didn't have time to get around to checking it out, and may not research it now to figure out what is what. However, I don't mind receiving such tips. North America1000 01:10, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Deletion sorting
WP:AFD/USA reads 'This is a high level category for deletion sorting. Whenever possible, it is recommended for deletion discussions to be added to more specific categories, such as a state and/or relevant subject area.' If a AFD is already in some state deletion sorting, it does not go here too....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:53, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Which article are you referring to that was placed there? North America1000 12:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Your last two edits to that page, what else. David Teten and J. D. Lasica....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:59, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * What states would you recommend these be added to? They're rather generic, as per the categories. It appears that the subjects have been around to areas other than their home states. Maybe you should just be bold and go ahead and add them. See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Archive 6. North America1000 13:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * First pretending to be blind because these are your only sorts to that page since April 10th, then a bullshit reply rather than admit your mistake. One editor picked up that the person was from New Jersey and it took me seconds to find out the other grew up in California. Remember what it also says at WP:AFD/USA, "Topics and subjects that are U.S.-based, whereby the article "does not" provide a specific state of origin or where activity occurs"....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:24, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Here's the cats for Teten:

Here's the cats for Lasica:

Not a U.S. state in sight. I performed simple deletion sorting per the cats and because not much is in the articles about the subjets' whereabouts in life. I have no problem with others refining the deletion sorting. So, there you have it; not pretending to be anything, no bs here. I will admit that I took the initiative to perform deletion sorting, in hopes to support increased participation at AfD. North America1000 13:32, 27 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Then why did another editor after you pick up New Jersey. Excuses excuses........William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Nb. See also: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting. North America1000 21:25, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Frank Salter
Hi, I would like this deleted page moved into my user space. Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 05:38, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I can userfy the page. Nobody at the AfD discussion said anything against a merge of content, with all opinion based upon the notion that the subject does not meet notability guidelines to qualify for a standalone article. As such, it seems all right on the surface to userfy. However, there are some important finer points:
 * I have reviewed the deleted page. Right away, it's important to state that from my experience, many users do not consider student newspapers to be a reliable source, or entirely reliable.
 * The National Alliance (Australia) article should not serve as a runaround for deletion of the article. In other words, I strongly recommend that you please do not copy and paste the entire article to that page at all.
 * Per part of your !vote at the AfD, "split National Alliance (Australia) and move much of the content there", at the most, I would perform a very selective merge, but would not use content sourced to Amazon.com. Furthermore, any unsourced content should not be merged. If anything, small snippets of the article could be merged.
 * The subject comes across as a contentious individual that is very likely controversial; WP:BLP policy must be very closely followed.
 * So let me know what you think. North America1000 07:22, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. I anticipate that the content salvaged from the article will be fairly minimal. I would also like to keep a copy of the deleted article and its history in case the subject becomes notable, as I have done before with deleted articles. Onetwothreeip (talk) 08:43, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Just a comment as the nominator of the article for deletion: National Alliance (Australia) is about a totally different party. StAnselm (talk) 09:40, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * StAnselm, thanks for the follow-up. If this is the case, then userfication for merging would make no sense. It would make no sense to have content about an unrelated subject in the article. Onetwothreeip: Regarding the notion of keeping a copy, yes, you can do that. However, you aren't really allowed to keep it in userspace forever, as per WP:NOTWEBHOST. A way to accomplish this would be for me to email you a copy, say, in MS Word format. North America1000 11:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That's actually not true, StAnselm just decided to remove all information about the Frank Salter party from the article, despite it being there for a while now and not put there by me. I would like the deleted article to be moved to User:Onetwothreeip/Frank Salter. The information there isn't the problem, the subject was just not notable. Onetwothreeip (talk) 11:15, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Before doing anything, I'd like to wait for to reply, to see what they have to say. As a side note, I really don't want to get in the middle of or involved in a content dispute regarding this matter. I'm also uneasy about the notion of userfying content that could then be used to further the content dispute already occurring at the National Alliance (Australia) article, as per it's recent Revision history. North America1000 11:26, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The material was added by User:Enthusiast01 last week. I have no idea why: the parties are completely unrelated, except for a superficial similarity of names. I don't know if the NSW party is notable, but I agree the student newspaper shouldn't be used. StAnselm (talk) 11:53, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * We consider all registered political parties in Australia to be notable. It's common practice for us to put together parties of the same name in the same article, and information about similarly named parties in articles about a party. It was added by that editor, you removed it, and I reverted your removal.
 * I think the userfying is pretty simple. I just want to see if there's any useful content I can extract for other articles, but also to have it if the subject becomes notable like a draft. It doesn't have to be the particular article that I named in the AfD. Onetwothreeip (talk) 12:39, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

My view is, rather than intermingling content about the Australian National Alliance in the National Alliance (Australia) (NA) article, why not just create a new article for the Australian National Alliance (ANA), where parts of the userfied content could then potentially be used? I noticed that StAnselm started a new discussion about ANA content being omitted from the NA article at Talk:National Alliance (Australia), but as of this post, there has been no subsequent discourse about the matter there. From the very recent edit warring that occurred at the NA article, there is presently no consensus for the new content to be placed in the NA article.

I've went ahead and userfied the Frank Salter article to User:Onetwothreeip/Frank Salter, but I don't want this simple userfication to be misunderstood or misinterpreted in any manner as some sort of endorsement from me for the content to then therefore be re-added to the NA article. Simply put, I am against the content being re-added to the NA article without a consensus to do so first being established at this time, such as on the talk page (see WP:BRD). North America1000 20:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I would be fine with making a new article, but StAnselm has not done that, they have removed the content entirely. Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Matters regarding the National Alliance (Australia) article should be discussed at Talk:National Alliance (Australia) at this point. I notice that StAnselm has posted another comment there. North America1000 23:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * (ec) As far as having both parties in the same article, I have responded on the article talk page. Please engage with me there. As far as a new article goes, I already invited you to start it. StAnselm (talk) 23:43, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I've responded there. You're the one who removed the content, I don't know why you're asking others to create an article. You made four reverts within 24 hours (1 2 3 4), so please act constructively from now on. Onetwothreeip (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Korea
Something in your !vote about this portal listing featured content breaks the section numbering sequence in the table of contents of MFD. My efforts to fix it failed, and I gave up. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You were trying to avoid what you did that wrecked the numbering previously, but it did not work. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:51, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
 * (diff). Thanks for the heads up. Looks fine on the main MfD log page now. I'll remember this for future reference: no headers, even in collapsed boxes, because they obfuscate the TOC. North America1000 14:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

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Nomination of Jackson Pollock (longevity claimant) for deletion
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Portal:Miami
Hey NA1k, just to let you know I was going to revert Legacypac's move of Portal:Miami since he did it without the subpages; I also think there's a good argument to leave it at Portal:Miami since that probably draws more initial traffic. Didn't want you to be surprised if you saw my CSD G6 of it. Since the move only requires one page I don't think admin. assistance is required here. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. North America1000 09:47, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

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