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User:Star767
I too have had problems with User:Star767. I mostly work in the philosophy articles, and have had to revert a substantial number of his edits. He does not appear to have any formal education in philosophy, but proceeds with supreme confidence. (This is actually quite a common phenomenon in philosophy -- everybody thinks they are an expert). I see that this person has only fairly recently become and editor, and has jumped right in with DYK nominations, and seems to refer to policies quite comfortably. I have no leads as to which, but I suspect that this is an account of a editor who formally edited under a different account --perhaps a banned editor. Any thoughts? Greg Bard (talk) 21:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * So i notice. He seems to have an odd destructive agenda on psychology. Yes he seems to have recently arrived from nowhere yet seems very familiar with some Wiki procedures. Im right with you on this. Im quite happy to do whatever is necessary including going through the Administrator intervention against vandalism or Sockpuppet investigations procedure. I would appreciate your support. Doing Sockpuppet investigations might be the best initial approach.--Penbat (talk) 21:18, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Just contacted User:Snowded for his opinion: User_talk:Snowded.--Penbat (talk) 08:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Bullying#This reversion
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Thanks for taking the time to recreate Fladrif's talk/user page. It will be a great resource for both the current and any future discussions on the matter. Cheers! -- — Keithbob • Talk  • 22:33, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers !--Penbat (talk) 22:35, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks ! Much appreciated ! --Penbat (talk) 19:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Just in case ...
you missed my talk page posts ... User:Penbat/management by fear is now available. I'm also watchlisting this as the style of management which uses abusive, intimidating, overbearing, aggressive, and heavy-handed tactics to achieve a goal (even to the extent of using this website to achieve an objective) has become a grave concern of mine. I may even be able to dig up a few resources for this. Sadly, it would not be appropriate to use examples from Wikipedia for an "article" though. Cheers and best. — Ched : ?  16:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, feel free to edit my sandbox. To be honest I dont plan to work on it myself any time soon but its something I would like to look into at some point. --Penbat (talk) 16:59, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you!
PS and thank you for your kind words. Lova Falk  talk  18:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Cheers ! I was actually about to post on your page about his demise but i guess you picked up my ref to you in the SPI and beat me to it. He has done a lot of stuff on DSM 5 that generally looks constructive so im leaving that alone but it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.--Penbat (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I picked it up and yes, every edit has to be evaluated regardless of the editor. Also Star767 made quite a few good edits as well... Lova Falk   talk  19:41, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
You've already received a number of barnstars for your recent work investigating Farrajak, but I wanted to express my appreciation as well. Thank you for putting so much time in and taking so much flack. Firecatalta (talk) 20:44, 12 June 2013 (UTC)


 * You're very kind !--Penbat (talk) 08:21, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Please be careful with undoing edits
Hi Penbat. In your eagerness to undo User:Farrajak's edits, you've undone a lot of minor improvements that Farrajak made, and so I've undone some of your undos. For just one example, this edit introduced typos to an article. Please take a deep breath and calmly review your recent activity, evaluating edits on their own merit, not on who made them. If you are going to undo Farrajak's edits, make sure you actually are doing that and not undoing someone else's contribution.

On the same theme, I hope that you'll join me in cutting down the major problems that Farrajak identified in Template:Narcissism, and in making that an effective navigational template, rather than something that puts multiple redundant links across a lot of tangentially related articles. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:42, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There are similar problems with Template:Bullying as well. In each case, you are the main author of the template and of the theme article (Narcissism, and Bullying) which it directs links to, and in each case you've expanded the template with questionable links to articles where the theme isn't mentioned. In each case you have not engaged with recent consensus on the Talk pages, and in each case it seems you have been careless in reverting edits by banned users: not only reverting edits that were good on their merits, but reverting legitimate, non-banned editors along with them. Please engage with the Wikipedia process of civil discussion that we're familiar with. I have not yet looked at other templates that you have been heavily involved in. Can you help me with a list? MartinPoulter (talk) 17:57, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

I've started a discussion here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:39, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Subsequently realised I can get a list of templates from your edit count, so striking out a sentence in my prior message. MartinPoulter (talk) 22:02, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've created a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Psychology. Hope you can weigh in. Cheers, MartinPoulter (talk) 16:28, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Community Help
There are a number of people, one of whom has vandalized the Stalking page, as of th 24th, -removing perfectly referenced, material, which was in use on another page word-for word

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Vacuum bell (medicine)
Sorry to bother you about this. You made edits to Vacuum bell (medicine) a while ago. A lot of information was deleted, because it was from primary sources. I recently added a new source about it: while I think none of the sources should be deleted, I find the newer revelations more important. I guess you would disagree with their removal completely. Thanks.

I found your name in the edit history. I noticed you got into a conflict with a similar named user, I almost thought that was me. Almost decided to drop this and let the ignorance of deleting information run free, until I noticed it was someone else. Its really a coincidence. If you decide not to act, I understand. Star6763 (talk) 11:41, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Professionals - notice of discussion
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A kitten for you!
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 * Thanks ! It's tough work but somebody has to do it.--Penbat (talk) 19:35, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I do hope you don't only think it is tough but you also have some fun doing it! Face-smile.svg  Lova Falk   talk  09:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I feel good about all the Wiki work ive done but now have WikiBurnout and trying to do as little as possible.--Penbat (talk) 09:47, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

A cup of coffee and some stroopwafels for you!

 * Thanks. Much appreciated ! --Penbat (talk) 08:01, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

FYI
Hi Penbat. Given the fact that I took a two-month semi-retirement due to stressful issues with Wikipedia (like dealing with long-term abusive editors such as Fladrif and other users, as well as being frustrated with Wikipedia's inabilities to deal with disruptive editors) and real life issues like college studies, I am thinking about closing the discussion over at Template talk:Bullying, even though you had issues with disruptive editors a while back. Do you have any thoughts about this matter? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:40, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm quite pissed off that quite a lot of stuff has been removed from the template and ideally i would want it returned to its original state (before Fladriff got involved) and certainly no more taken out. It only got raised as an issue when Fladriff & sock-puppet Star767 piled in. Anyway these days i have WikiBurnout and am trying to do as little as possible on Wiki. I don't have the stomach to get involved in Template talk:Bullying.--Penbat (talk) 18:57, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Whoa, that's really terrible news. I am extremely sorry to hear about that. I think it's time to just move on and deal with this later if needed. I personally took a two-month semi-retirement because of Wikistress partially due to exactly this type of abuse. Don't let abuse like that get to you. People think it's okay to bully, when in fact, it's not. I have already contacted Timtrent about this. I am going to help revert Star767/Farrajak's edits as well. Best wishes, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:01, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Best wishes to you. I look forward to your return to Wikipedia. Iss246 (talk) 02:44, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * It isnt quite that bad. I still do the odd bit of editing most days. I feel I have achieved a lot and have done practically all the "must dos" so there isnt much else im currently strongly motivated to work on. I dont have the stomach to work on complex or contentious work at present tho. I may get back to it properly at some point.--Penbat (talk) 09:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Also, just as a heads up, back in June, Fladrif returned as to continue the same personal attacks and evade his block. However, he was blocked and his talk page access was disabled. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


 * You have also been mentioned here as well regarding the recent issues with the Bullying template. What are your thoughts on this matter? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:10, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Penbat, you know I have praised your work in the past and I've raised concerns with you this year in a spirit of genuine respect. So why have you not engaged with my questions about your edits? The incident where you described me as a "banned user" I can understand as an honest mistake and I would accept a simple apology. Instead, as in the discussion above, you've persisted in connecting my comments to those of banned users. I have the same approach with disruptive users: it stresses me out and discourages me. But now that those users are banned, why imply that your lack of answers to my points is somehow due to them? MartinPoulter (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible nomination review for psychology article
Hello User:Penbat, There is presently a psychology article which I am considering for review in featured article category and I noticed your interest in related articles. Any possible interest? BillMoyers (talk) 13:31, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * Please note that my edits were not vandalism at all but a complete revert back to the pre-Fladrif state. I have also notified the Psychology project about this matter. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:19, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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I/O psychology article
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 * Hi I wasnt ignoring you. However if you read earlier comments from me on this talk page im basically keeping a low profile on Wikipedia for the time being. Im tending to just do relatively light formatting work etc and avoid the serious stuff - im still recovering from some Wiki burnout.--Penbat (talk) 22:58, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Chronon
Hi Penbat,

I am having trouble understanding your edit summary where you reference http://samvak.tripod.com/cv.html http://samvak.tripod.com. I am not seeing any mention of Vaknin's paper Time Asymmetry Revisited on that page, or anything even remotely associated with that subject. Are you sure you haven't made a mistake?  Spinning Spark  21:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It says "1982-3: Ph.D. in Philosophy (dissertation: "Time Asymmetry Revisited") – California Miramar University (formerly: Pacific Western University), California, USA." for me, then click "Time Asymmetry Revisited" through to http://samvak.tripod.com/time.html --Penbat (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I see it now, I had misssed that you had run two links together and only clicked on the first one. Thanks.  Spinning  Spark  22:11, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
 * He's a clever chappie. He claims to have an IQ of 185 which i think may be true.--Penbat (talk) 22:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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