User talk:Phoebe/Archive10

Italian translation and hello :-)
Hi Phoebe, I'm an Italian librarian and a Wikipedia enthusiast. I've just written a brief article about what libraries can do with Wikipedia and, to present it on my personal blog, I've quoted your page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Phoebe/why. For your curiosity, it's here: http://nonbibliofili.wordpress.com/2012/12/18/i-bibliotecari-sono-anche-wikipediani-davvero/. I've translated in Italian the first paragraph and I hope this is fine for you. Please apologize my English, thanks, bye! --Virginia Gentilini (talk) 10:19, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * this is so cool. Have I mentioned how cool this is? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:12, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Janet Hill Gordon
–Thank you for your message re Janet Hill Gordon.... NYS senate Library should have a Red Book with bio, committees etc for the years she spent in the legislature. Preilly51 (talk) 12:59, 29 December 2012 (UTC) Patrick

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Demand Progress Authoring
Howdy, thanks for your welcome message. Is it just me, or does it seem that there are a lot of unrelated politics unnecessarily involved with authoring an article for this crowd-sourced encyclopedia? Just a hunch, but both users involved with deletion had 'red' in their usernames. I suppose I could use your help sprucing up the page to meet guidelines so the trolls don't eat me or delete the page. --Teststudent (talk) 04:20, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Also
I started a discussion on Talk:Suicide. I guess I feel that if as a community and an organization we regret Aaron Swartz's suicide we can do something small to maybe prevent a similar tragedy in the future. --ESP (talk) 20:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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Tearing up
I fixed the Orion photo so people won't keep getting it confused.

Also, apropos of laughter: Lev's report on Tesla's IMs with Einstein. Man, that was soul-crushing. – SJ +
 * Oh good. I could never keep them straight either. Are we in Russia? To Einstein: why won't you ever accept helpful feedback?!? -- phoebe / (talk to me) !

West.andrew.g talkback
Thanks Phoebe! I hope that reports like WP:5000 will not just fascinate the community, but be a factor in guiding editing/enforcement efforts moving forward. I thank you for continued support through numerous iterations of Wikisym/Wikimania. I regret that my professional career will soon be pulling me in orthogonal directions. Regardless, my personal commitment to the project(s) remains strong. Given your considerable influence, I hope you can/will recommend me for any relevant opportunities that may arise in the future. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 06:29, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey yo, thanks for that. Useful stuff. But, is it still accurate? Seems to me when I registered User:Peteforsyth demo a few months back, HotCat was enabled by default. It's possible I'm remembering wrong…and short of setting up a new account, I don't really know how to confirm! Is there a way? -Pete (talk) 01:06, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, looks like you're right. (In my defense that's pretty new, though!) I'll tweak the wording. I wonder if there's a list of default-on for new users? Steven might know... -- phoebe / (talk to me) 01:10, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * A better question is: is it automatically enabled for all commons accounts? That's actually where I started out. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 01:18, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was a (pleasant) surprise for me too, which is why it stuck in my memory :) And yes, I'd love to know where to look stuff like this up. I'd love even more if there were a way to ping Steven and have it show up in a feed or something…but I digress :) -Pete (talk) 01:26, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * p.s. I'm pretty sure it has been on by default on Commons for a very long time -- unless I'm mistaken, that's how I became aware of its existence. -Pete (talk) 01:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * …annnd confirmed, I just used my demo account (which I haven't really used on Commons, much less customized) and it's enabled. -Pete (talk) 01:28, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

SUL
Finally cleaning up SUL accounts :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 02:43, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ on fr.wp. Chaoborus (talk) 03:32, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

CRL
Hi Phoebe, I'm wondering if WP or WMF has ever done any outreach to the Center for Research Libraries, and you seemed the one who would know. It seems like an obvious path to pursue for improving wp:RX access to obscure sources, if they're prepared to entertain it. No doubt we can go through individual member libraries, but that doesn't really seem fair to the WP editors at those member institutions and might in some cases violate their terms of service. LeadSongDog come howl!  21:11, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Howdy,
 * the short answer is I don't think so (or I don't know of anything, anyway); the long answer is I think maybe it would be something CRL would entertain, maybe not. They tend to enter very complicated agreements with the member libraries (which I don't fully understand) for consortial deals and access to their collections, and it's far from free. This could be a good area for a Wikipedian in Residence to help sort out, though? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Seems plausible. Perhaps the W-I-R at the OCLC or the LoC could offer some insights. As I understand it they are major participant institutions in CRL. The recent discussions around possible loss of WebCite on-demand archiving of ephemeral web based sources might also play into it. I note CRL's staff directory includes a "Member Liaison and Outreach Services Director", who might be a good initial contact point.LeadSongDog come howl!  05:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps DGG, who is a librarian, might have some input.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  17:53, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * As Phoebe says, the CRL is not a library in the ordinary sense, but an interlibrary center for large bodies of print and microfilm material. It only works as a resource for individual libraries (almost all significant college and university libraries are members)  with only two exceptions: It has a reading room in Chicago open to researchers under the normal special restrictions of a rare book facility, and it will make photocopies of items in its collection for anyone at a minimum cost of $175 for up to 50 pages. It would not seem to make any sense for us to interface with it directly, even were they prepared to enter in such an arrangement.  DGG ( talk ) 00:45, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying that. I suppose that means working through other libraries, then... LeadSongDog come howl!  06:21, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Brunch
Phoebe, Debra and I enjoyed brunch with you and the gang on Sunday, and just regret that James had a headache. It is always fun for a mere foot soldier to hear the insights of the high command. Be well.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  17:51, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
 * how did I miss this message? It was great to see you too, and Debra. Hope to see you at an upcoming event! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:15, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Phoebe; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tea from #tooFEW
Several of us received your warm cup of tea greeting, Phoebe, and want to say thank you! DCavendish (talk) 17:49, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * no problem! :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:51, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome and tea - I hope I'm putting my response in the correct space.FaulkTest (talk) 18:09, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * indeed you are! you can also leave a note on your own talk page underneath mine. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

A follow up note, Phoebe, after seeing how engaged you were today. As an organizer for #tooFEW, I'm really grateful that you were willing to share your expertise and time. Thanks again.71.119.157.211 (talk) 03:43, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Want to co-sign! I was so excited to find a warm cup of tea greeting me when I logged in today :) Thank you Phoebe! Snapdragon8 (talk) 03:41, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks
looks like we have the mesh codes almost solved/done then? - appreciate your ratings - the library project looked as though it had too many unassessed. cheers sats 08:15, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Sure thing. I got distracted before finishing up but it looks like they are done now! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * p.s. These pages, along with the list of LC classifications, might be better suited for Wikibooks... thoughts?? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Silas the Babylonian
Hi Phoebe, thanks again for your comments on my talk page. I've improved the article as you suggest and created another new page called Attack on Ashkelon to explain a little better the forces involved. I hope this will clarify things a bit. Ta ra! Essaios (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but these articles are by one of our most persistent puppet masters. See Sockpuppet investigations/Paul Bedson/Archive. For background, Requests for comment/Paul Bedson and . He has stated that he will continue to create sock puppets unless he is unblocked. Dougweller (talk) 13:48, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Joseph Pitts (Slave)
(Hopefully I'm doing this right)

Hi Phoebe, I'm the guy with the Joseph Pitts page. Sorry for the bad formatting and other troubles. The page is made as a part of Adam Beach's British Literature class at Ball State University, and as a group project it's got some spotty things going on. We're trying to rectify that. Thanks for your help!
 * Thanks for the note -- the article looks good (and is definitely about a needed topic that was missing before), it just needs some cleanup. As for the message, you are doing it right except it's customary to sign messages with four tildes, like this: ~ . Is there a page for your class somewhere? cheers, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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List of Archaeologists
Dear Phoebe:

thank You for making the technical edits on the list of archaeologists. How-ever, I don't agree with Your eliminating the ref. to the Srpskohrvatski Wikipedia article about Cheman. I know Your action follows general Wik policy, but here we are dealing with a list which includes people who can be prominent in material not in English. By having a cross-Wik ref, we "protect" the name from being removed by some-one saying the person doesn't belong on the list 'because s/he has no individual Wikipedia page.' To me, on a list a cross-Wik  ref to an entry (in this case, an archaeologist) is like  double-bracketing:  simply a way of saying that the person merits entry and on essentially the same basis. Kdammers (talk) 07:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi! and libraries
Hi Phoebe - how would you suggest beginning reorganizing libraries on WP and Outreach? My issues is that 1) it's in two different places and one needs to see both to get a sense of the topic, and 2) I'm not sure there is a logical progression of pages that would clearly guide novices through the information. What do you envision being the end product we should work to? (Btw, I'm at work at the moment - the actual work I'd do at home in the evening.) Looking forward to tackling this. -- kosboot (talk) 18:55, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! Yes! Let's do it. I suppose what I'm imagining is a non-project specific portal for professional libraries & librarians who would like to get involved in Wikimedia, to provide a one-shop-stop as it were. I think that means working on Outreach (or maybe meta, but there's already a start on outreach), even though the Wikipedia Loves Libraries pages are maybe more complete here? I don't think there is a logical progression of pages, no. I think we just need to pick a place and start collecting resources.
 * The things I'd like to see are:
 * Library-related presentations
 * handouts that could be used for teaching /information literacy etc
 * event ideas and reports
 * links to relevant projects on commons, wp, wikisource, etc
 * best practices, example projects
 * -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiknic 2013
"Wiknic 2013 Sunday, June 23rd · 12:34pm · Lake Merritt, Oakland Theme: Hyperlocal list-making" This year's 2013 SF Wiknik will be held at Lake Merritt, next to Children's Fairyland in Oakland. This event will be co-attended by people from the hyperlocal Oakland Wiki. May crosspollination of ideas and merriment abound!

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 * Street parking abounds

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Your surname
Sorry, I remember making a mental note during drafting to hunt it down and insert it—that kind of omission can have a whiff of sexism about it. But alas, I forgot in the last-minute rush. All the best, Phoebe. Tony  (talk)  08:16, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * no problem! no offence taken at all. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 20:17, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Encyclopetey
Greetings, I just noticed you left a note on Enclyclopetey's talk page and thought you might not have known about his situation. EP hasn't edited since August 2012 due to an Arbcom sanction so I'm not sure if they would even be able to edit at the editathon even if they wanted too. Just thought you should know. Happy editing. Kumioko (talk) 20:06, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * thanks for the heads-up, Kumioko; sorry to hear. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:15, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Journal Article Access Request
Hi Phoebe, I hope you've been well, do you by chance have access to this article? Thank you. Here's the article I'm trying to access: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.2042-7166.2012.01174.x/abstract TylerDurden8823 (talk) 16:46, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Will email. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 19:53, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Women Scientists
Hey Phoebe! I just wanted to welcome you to WikiProject Women Scientists. :) It's always great to have another person on board! See ya around, Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 14:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * thanks! I've been doing work on these articles for a long time anyway, but just figured out that there was a wikiproject too. I'll do some work this weekend with rating and tagging! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 15:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic! Have fun! :) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 16:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

WP:FOOD Needs You!
Hi there Phoebe! I've noticed you have yourself listed as a member of the Food and Drink Wikiproject. Unfortunately it looks like the project has been slowly sliding into inactivity except for a couple of people. That makes me a sad potato, and nobody likes a sad potato amirite?

If you'd like to turn my frown upside down, can you do two small things?

First off, go here and add Tick (✅) next to your name if you're still part of the project.

Second, go to the project talkpage and participate in a discussion about how to make the project more active, and how to go about making articles in our area of interest a lot better.

You don't want to make me cry, do you? Potatoes have a lot of eyes you know. So come on, join in! :)

— The Potato Hose 18:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * OK! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Chopo
Yesterday was fun! If you'd like a collaborator on the Chopo museum article, just let me know. Also, are you going to leave it for now in your sandbox vs. moving it to mainspace? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm so glad you could make it! I would love a collaborator. I do want to move it to mainspace, I was just hoping to add a little bit more to it first... I think it could totally be a DYK. I'm going to work on getting some sources today, and there's a lot that could be translated from Spanish! I moved it to user:phoebe/chopo for the moment. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Chopo University Museum is in mainspace! I'll look at translating today or tomorrow. Won't need too much more to meet dyk requirements. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * super cool! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I added a little bit more too.... looking good! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 21:39, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Phoebe - I am so glad we worked on this article together! Here's its nom: Template:Did you know nominations/Chopo University Museum. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:58, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * cool! did you know... it will actually be my first did you know?! I don't write that many new articles, and I never seem to get around to nominating them! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I didn't know that. I assumed you had some credits under your belt.  So cool! --Rosiestep (talk) 04:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah... generally speaking, I tend to spend my time making mediocre articles slightly less mediocre, which doesn't fit well with the DYK or FA processes :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Organizing libraries pages
Hey Phoebe - sorry for being late with getting to this (reorganization of library pages). I've looked at pages on Outreach and WP. How do you want to organize them? In a sense, I think most of the "how-to" pages belong on Outreach.wikimedia.org. But I'm uneasy with that because I don't think that wiki is as prominent as regular WP, and I have my doubts as to weather the "curious" will follow the trail to outreach (or will even realize that it's a separate domain). As far as the content, I think most of it is there: how-to, the benefits, and the "have-dones." Thoughts? -- kosboot (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * hi! I think outreach makes sense as a place to organize both how-to pages and listings of events/projects from around the world -- not just the English Wikipedia. So my first task is going to be collect a list of projects that have been done already, on outreach. I've started working on the pages that are there now to consolidate older WLL content and am going to make a new page to make a list of projects. Does that make sense? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 03:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's the new page -- I'm just going to start listing everything I can: ... also, could easily be renamed.

Thanks a lot!
I notice that you have understood exactly - like Samuel and Maria - what kind of dilemma we are trying to solve. After almost 10 years, where we are working on this project, we simply see the need, working on new ideas, even apart from established structures.

BTW: Karl and I are Austrian citizen and although we consider ourself as part of the German language Wikipedia - of course! -, on the other side, we see ourselves as representatives of regional interests too. --Hubertl (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! BTW I visited the Austrian National Library last year. I was only in Vienna for a day so I didn't get in touch, but I wish I had -- I didn't realize that you could take visitors into the scanning project! best, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


 * How could you stay here for just one day! Yes, I am allowed to open it for as much visitors I could get ;-) maybe the next time, you know my user site! Wish to meet you sometimes! --Hubertl (talk) 12:22, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I was pleasantly surprised that the three candidates I mentioned above actually have the choice to decide for themselves. Once again of my wishes to much power for a good time on the board and a good time for Wikipedia. --Hubertl (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Chopo University Museum
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This Month in GLAM: May in the USA
Hello Phoebe, You have written before for the newsletter This Month in GLAM. I see the USA is missing regarding the edition about May 2013, do you perhaps have any idea what GLAM activities were done in the USA in May? Can you perhaps write about those? Or do you know who I can ask to write about it? Thanks! (Deadline of the May edition is Friday 7 June 18:00 UTC, so in about 6 hours. If you need more time I can postpone it.) You can start writing at the page GLAM/Newsletter/May 2013/Contents/USA report. If you wish to be informed by e-mail next time, please write me at this page. You can reach me the best at nl-wiki talk page. Greetings - Romaine (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Library project you mentioned on GLAMout
Speaking as a person/not my agency, I'd love to help out - there's a lot of interest in Wikipedia from Michigan libraries of all kinds, public and University﻿. I, too, think libraries are under-represented in GLAM, and many have local history archives attached (may not be notable...). Couldn't figure out how to comment during the GLAMout session. Bdcousineau (talk) 19:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Hooray! Yes, let's work together. We need good ideas! Everything is on outreach:libraries... -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, will check there. Ideas not usually a problem! =P Bdcousineau (talk) 01:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi Phoebe,
I have now read all the questions and answers. Also from the other applicants. In part, it was really disappointing, just a few positive. I'm sure you'll make the race. I have all of your statements which are recognized as the marked by great realism and practical experience. Not only presenting and repeating already known theoretical positions. I think I'm a fan of yours! Greetings from Vienna --Hubertl (talk) 08:57, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 00:04, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Casa del Arte
Hi Phoebe - Casa del Arte (Concepción, Chile), an art museum at a Chilean university, may interest you. If you're busy with other things, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:41, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Drinking game
User:Phoebe/Drinking ! – SJ  +  17:23, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * it needs a serious update! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 17:33, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013
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2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting
You are invited to the 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting, on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! EdwardsBot (talk) 09:53, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi Phoebe. Thanks for the tea (and the welcome)! I've actually made quite a few edits before now (mostly copy editing), but I hadn't formally registered before. I figured since I was wading into a potentially contentious issue I should make sure I got my user page started. The chances of me doing much more in AfD are pretty slim. I mostly stick to commas. If there's some way for me to help with the library project/s, please let me know. -Libraryowl (talk) 17:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * aha! I thought you seemed like a pretty experienced editor for someone newly registered :) There's nothing wrong with AfD, which always (desperately) needs good people to help out; it's just it's kind of a culture unto its own. There's always a lot of library projects that need to be done; lots of articles to edit, and also I'm slowly working on how-to & outreach pages for libraries over here: . Cheers, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:33, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words and offer of help.
Hi, Phoebe,

Thank you for your kind words on my wall when you noticed that I have been inspired by your book about Wikipedia. As you wrote there, I was finishing up sandbox updates for the IQ classification article. I have submitted that to the current nominations on DYK, but so far no one has checked the hook fact there, which I discovered while expanding the article. It occurs to me that since you are a librarian, you can help me better understand how most Wikipedians use sources. I'm pretty big on using print sources and writing pathfinders to reliable sources, but I get the impression that I still need more cultural guidance on how to fit in with other Wikipedians who have other work styles. Any thoughts you have about that would be much appreciated. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 22:29, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for joining WikiProject Food and drink
Hello Phoebe! Welcome to WikiProject Food and Drink! We are a group of editors who work together to better organize information in articles related to food and drink.

The goals of WikiProject Food and Drink: What you can do right now:
 * Consensus about the organization of food and drink related articles.
 * Coordination of editing on food, drink, and restaurant related articles.
 * Categorization of food, drink, and restaurant articles.
 * Creation, expansion, and maintenance of food, drink, and restaurant articles.
 * To help maintain the food portal.
 * You might wish to add User WP Food and drink to your userpage.
 * If you haven't done so already, please consider adding your name to the list of participants.

Once again, welcome to the project! Northamerica1000(talk) 01:49, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest - new user
I am a reference librarian at Grace A. Dow Memorial Library and have been editing the library's Wikipedia page. I have now read the sections on conflict of interest, and wondering where I should put a conflict of interest statement? On the article's talk page? How?

I wasn't aware of the conflict of interest policies when I started, but have no problem with abiding by them. I know that mgreason corrected some mistakes in the format for the external links (which was probably fine, and I messed it up).

Thanks in advance for your help (MadLibn 19:32, 5 August 2013 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madlibn (talk • contribs)
 * hi there -- and thanks for your edits to Wikipedia! Many people add such a statement to their user pages, which for you is here: user:Madlibn. That would be fine. As mgreason noted, it's just fine for you to edit the page with factual information -- just use common sense about the tone, which shouldn't be promotional. You might also get a feel for editing articles by writing about other places in the vicinity (the city you're in, maybe?) or another topic you enjoy. You might also check out WikiProject Libraries. Welcome! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Personal and Moral Rights?
Hi Phoebe Ayers:

I would like to appreciate you on your appointment as a member on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. This may the first request you received from a community member, requesting your help.

In a discussion with Jimmy Wales on the moral rights of the photographers and the personal rights of the subjects, he said "I think that the commons community has gone down a very sad and disappointing path with respect to ethical matters. My views on this are not new, and are well known. Our project is a grand humanitarian effort. That it has been hijacked by people who do not share our values is something that needs to be fixed."

We further requested him to bring this matter to the attention of WMF and make a resolution or something to force Commons make enough policies to protect our rights as a photographer and our commitments to our subjects. He replied: "I am just one board member on this issue. I will continue to call this to the attention of the board and staff, but I need help from the community to illustrate that this is a problem that concerns many of us."

So we would like to bring that discussion to the attention of every member on board.

Further, please note a somewhat related discussion at Commons too: Concern about the bureaucrat role of Russavia.

One admin even exclaimed in that discussion: "I find this rather an interesting discussion but what I find really intriguing is for all the "official" concerns being raised about Russavia's competence as a representative with authority within Commons this isnt being backup by the action of WMF. The reason being is that if there is such official concern over Russavia actions and representations of the community does he continue in a position of trust with OTRS having access to personal information and answer emails sent to the Foundation."

I would like to let you know that some of your strong opinions in your individual talk pages influenced the Commons community to initiate a discussion to develop a policy for courtesy deletions.

We expect resolutions, guidance, opinions, and participation in the development of similar policies and guidelines in future too. Thanks. J Kadavoor J e e 11:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * See meta -- phoebe / (talk to me) 16:00, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks; replied there. Sorry for the late response; I was away for a few weeks. J Kadavoor J e e 06:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - September 2013

 * Posted by Northamerica1000(talk) 01:17, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I mentioned you at...
WP:WMF. Best! Biosthmors (talk) 19:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool update
Hey Phoebe. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:Food
It would be appreciated if you joined in the conversation occurring at WT:Food regarding the layout and presentation of the project's main page. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Descriptive bibliography articles
Good afternoon,

I saw you might be going to the Meetup/Berkeley Edit-a-thon, discovered you were a librarian from your user page and thought you might be able to give an informed answer to the following:

Sort version: What would be needed for a worthwhile descriptive bibliography article on a particular work?

Long version: I recently acquired Minkoff's Bibliography of the Black Sun Press. It's a terrific example of the genre of descriptive bibliography, and since the Black Sun Press is certainly notorious enough, I thought it would be pretty easy to crank out a bibliographical article listing their publications. The work in progress is here. There have been several complicating factors (multiple "Black Sun Presses" exist, should ephemera be included, how to handle pricing information) but for the most part the "table o' titles" is coming together nicely.

That table, though, leaves out all of the good stuff. I had originally thought I could include the bibliographical description of most of these works, copying Minkoff where his work was not creative and paraphrasing him (as well as others) where it was, but there's just too much. I considered spitting the article into several bibliographies by year, but that seems really artificial. Then it occurred to me that each of these works could have their own standalone article with a full bibliographic description, with the main table linking to each one.

Based on my poking around at the (moribund) WikiProject Bibliographies page, nobody has tried to do this before. If this really is a new class of article then there are going to be several issues that need hashing out: copyright (how much of an existing bibliography can be copied verbatum?), notability (does a single published descriptive bibliography of a work confer sufficient notability for an article?) and WP:OR (counting pages probably isn't original research, determining paper type might be, where to draw the line?).

Thoughts? Advice?

Many thanks,

Lesser Cartographies (talk) 22:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey, that is a great question and I do not really know the answer...! I have pinged some people who've worked on similar things for their thoughts. I would be careful about both inadvertent plagiarism of Minkoff, and being careful about being too detailed for an encyclopedia article. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:42, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on VisualEditor takedown
Hello. I am writing you because you are an elected community representative on the board of the Wikimedia Foundation. I am writing my other two representatives also. At some point in an appropriate venue, would you please comment on the community's decision to take down the VisualEditor? At the Administrator's Noticeboard right now there is a recently closed request for comment on a community-forced removal of the VisualEditor. I think that none of you three participated in that last discussion which resulted in the community changing MediaWiki code to remove the VisualEditor.

It is my wish that at least one of you would say something encouraging to show respect to the Wikimedia Foundation and to the Wikipedia community and their ability to work collaboratively to meet contributor needs. It might be the case that this event would be looked upon by people outside the community and perhaps even remembered in the future. Since you three are elected representatives who relay messages between the Wikimedia Foundation and the community, I would like for any of you to publicly comment on the situation in a succinct and positive way which demonstrates the constructive aspects of the relationships we all have with each other. I hope that this could be done in a venue which people would be likely to find if they started reading about this, but this need not be done in a place which would send people to this issue if they were not already searching for it.

I do not know who might be covering this in the The Signpost, for example, but if it is covered I wish that if you did not give statements in the article space then perhaps you could comment in the comment section if any article on the topic is published and you find this venue to be appropriate enough for your attention. Thank you for maintaining good relations between Wikimedia Foundation staff and community members.  Blue Rasberry   (talk)   22:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * @bluerasberry -- thanks for the note. I didn't realize that there had been another RfC -- sigh. So thanks for the heads-up. I will read through and try to figure out what happened. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 23:07, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - October 2013

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Wiki Editathons Rock
Phoebe: thanks a million for leading the Wiki Edit-a-thon at UC Riverside. It was much appreciated and very, very well-received. Thanks again! Stevenmg (talk) 23:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * you are so very welcome! It was a lot of fun. I am off to work on Edward S. Holden, which is the last article I was working on :) -- 16:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Journal Article Access Request
Hi Phoebe, I hope you have been well, if you have access to the following two articles, could you please help me with obtaining a full-text copy of them? I'm working on the hyperemesis gravidarum article and these are two recent review articles that could help make the article more complete. Here are the two articles I cannot access: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23164415 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23570802 Thanks Phoebe! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 06:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC) hey -- unfortunately we don't seem to subscribe to either of these journals. I'm going to look into some other options. best, -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:34, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, let me know if you find anything useful for the article that you can share with me. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 18:05, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * By the way, any chance you have access to these review articles (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22787240) and (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22855353) so I can use them for the costochondritis article? Thank you Phoebe! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 05:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Any luck on either of these fronts? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 16:42, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Anything Phoebe?? TylerDurden8823 (talk) 07:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * hey! sorry, I didn't see this. I'll send you a note. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 05:50, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

"Happy Diwali!"


Hey, thanks for your comments, I am new to Wikipedia. I added some text, please check this is appropriate. best K — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eineljarba (talk • contribs) 11:10, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Source challenge -- 1912 Vitagraph limited-distribution periodical
I'm hard at work with the article for the historically significant 1912 silent short film A Cure for Pokeritis. Tracking down sources for 13 minutes of 90 year old film has been an interesting challenge, but there's one really important piece of information that eludes me, and that's anything at all about the music that would have accompanied the film at its release. I know that Vitagraph Studios had an exhibitors' publication, distributed to movie theaters that aired their films, giving their recommendations for the music to be played at each of them. Web sources disagree on exactly what that should have been called in February 1912, but I believe it would have been titled Vitagraph Bulletin of Life Portrayals (other options include just Vitagraph Bulletin or possibly Vitagraph Exhibitor). Needless to say, I've got very little publication information for the periodical; I know it had issue numbers, but I have no idea what issue I'd need for the recommendations for a February 23, 1912 film release.

This is so far outside my normal research zone that I'm at a big disadvantage. And my knowledge about what I need is sufficiently incomplete (not to mention the rarity, obscurity, and age issues) that my local library more or less laughed off my efforts to interlibrary loan the material. Needless to say, none of the usual suspects seem to have digitized copies available online. Any thoughts where to go from here? Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 21:53, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * hmm, that does seem tough. I'll take a look and get back to you. Did you already check Worldcat to see where it might be? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:13, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Assuming that Vitagraph bulletin of life portrayals is indeed the right title for 1912 issues of their music recommendation periodical, WorldCat lists 3 libraries: NY Public Library, University of South Carolina, and the Margaret Herrick Library in Beverly Hills. But it also doesn't give any issue information or date ranges, so I don't really even know how comprehensive the collections are at these institutions (over a decade of these things were published, possibly even weekly?). Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 22:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Neither NYPL nor the Oscars has it, leaving U South Carolina to check, but there may be variations of title too. Looking at just an author search gives much more to work from. Narrowing it down to 1912 suggests that the 1912 Vitagraph life portrayals. How and where moving pictures are made by the Vitagraph Company of America ...  is held at U Chicago Library under call number 778.5 V835, and also at Princeton University Library under call number 2004-0900Q.  Also possibly of interest is, held at MOMA and BGSU.  Good luck. LeadSongDog  come howl!  03:49, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No luck from the University of South Carolina either, although they missed it by this much, and their collection was able to provide some insight into what I'm actually looking for. The Vitagraph Bulletin, under a zillion titles (they index theirs as Vitagraph Life Portrayals) was published every other week during 1912 (and probably earlier, perhaps under different titles), then switched to monthly publication in 1913. They have only a fragmentary sampling of the 1912 run: two issues, one from late January, and one from late March.  So close, but so far. But from those issues, I am able to determine that I'm looking for Vitagraph Life Portrayals volume 1, number 16 (late February, 1912).  Progress, I suppose.  Thanks for giving me some leads where to try next, LeadSongDog. Here's hoping this is actually extant somewhere! Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 04:53, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Archive.org has one volume from 1914 online. It doesn't refer to the film you seek, but it may be otherwise of interest. Just search for a "Vitagraph" text. LeadSongDog come howl!  13:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for ... except about two years earlier. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:07, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you, and the talk page stalkers, know that I've gotten my hands on this. The UCLA special collections folks are awesome. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:22, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! I'm glad you found it. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:55, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Hello!
Thanks, nice to meet you too! Dreamyshade (talk) 23:41, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Small world
I see you marked Northern Times (Carnarvon, W.A.) as reviewed - you might be amused to know that I was the one who pushed it to go from userspace to mainspace as the trainer at this workshop. Small world :-) Wittylama 03:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome :) I wondered if you were involved.. I saw a whole list of national-library related articles go by :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 05:35, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedian in community notice
Dear

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