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This Month in GLAM: June 2014
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Chrome
Nominated Chrome for FAC today, FYI: Featured article candidates/California Chrome/archive1. Grab your popcorn and watch the show. Montanabw (talk) 22:53, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #117
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:16, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Discussions
 * Improving the FAQ
 * Should we link to restricted access databases?
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Two new GuidedTours (aka interactive tutorials) have been released—we now have one on editing items and one on editing statements! Both tours are available from the Wikidata:Tours portal and feedback can be left on the talk page at Wikidata_talk:Tours. The work was a combined effort of User:Bene* and Outreach Program for Women intern User:Thepwnco.
 * We passed another milestone \o/ 10 million items now have an "instance of" or "subclass of" statement making it easy to tell what the item is about.
 * Last week to add some selfies. We need more!
 * Items with no image around you? Here you go! (change the number in the URL and click toggle markers) Thanks Magnus!
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: GUI toolkit or framework, SFDb ID, non-native language spoken, nominated for, number of seats in legislature, Cycling Archives Cyclist ID, licensed to broadcast to, MusicBrainz series ID, script directionality, World Glacier Inventory ID, original combination, Foundational Model of Anatomy ID, bug report page, FCC Facility ID, convicted of
 * Development
 * Bene* worked with the dev team this week. He pushed forward support for storing badges (eg featured article) on Wikidata and implemented the first two guided tours.
 * CTRL+ click and middle click on a search result in the entity selector now opens the result in a new tab.
 * Further progress on redirects
 * Fixed a number of annoyances with the entity selector
 * Continued work on mockups for new user interface
 * Investigated what issues come up if we make wikidata.org its own client. Things look good so we will probably enable it soonish. This will mean you can link Wikidata pages in items and access the data in them on other pages on Wikidata.
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Fix a format or content violation for the World Register of Marine Species identifier (P850) property
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help fix these items which has been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
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Flass
Re: Flass. The location is here, but I'm afraid I don't know what information it is you need/how to add to the article. Can you help? J Milburn (talk) 21:40, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! J Milburn (talk) 21:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Beryl Randle
Hello, Andy. Would you like to address the issue raised by, please? Please respond on the DYK nom template. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 14:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder; that's now done. I don't feel comfortable with these reviews, and wish there was some other way to offset some of the large volume of work I do for Wikipedia, in other spheres, against my nominations. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:20, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your quick response, Andy. Your wikicontribution is much appreciated. To be honest, I ain't too comfortable with these reviews, either. Oh, well.... --PFHLai (talk) 02:11, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Break character in titles in templates
Do you know why there is a gap added by using the break character in the infobox template in articles such as James Gibbons. The gap looks awkward, as if there is a line of text that is missing. It is created by adding a break character before the person's name. If it is a style that has been agreed on, we should add it to the template directly, but to my eye it looks awkward. What do you think? Is it possible it is there just to add more color to the infobox? Look at James Roosevelt Bayley for one where I removed the gap. I am sure this has been discussed already, but you would be the one to know. You can change back Bayley after you peek at it. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:43, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I think they're a legacy from a time before the template layout was improved. Remove them, as I just did on your former example. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #118
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 * Discussion to increase the support votes required for successful RfAs
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Main Page redesign suggestions
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: Oxford Dictionary of National Biography ID, GUI toolkit or framework, SFDb ID, non-native language spoken, nominated for, number of seats in legislature, Cycling Archives Cyclist ID, licensed to broadcast to
 * Development
 * Finished setting up JSON dumps. If everything goes well, a first dump will be available on Monday evening
 * Worked on badges UI integration and made initial progress at making them editable
 * Did a lot of JavaScript refactoring in order to put Api related code into an own component
 * Made it possible to access data from Wikidata items on Wikidata itself using Lua (not yet enabled)
 * Fixed a bug that allowed creation of items with the same label+description of another item
 * Monthly Tasks
 * Fix a format or content violation for the World Register of Marine Species identifier (P850) property
 * Hack on one of these.
 * Help fix these items which have been flagged using Wikidata - The Game.
 * Help develop the next summary here!
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Template: Pink Floyd singles
Hi, I'm beatleswhobeachboys. If you're okay with it, I would like to, rather than delete the template as you preposed, use it by placing it in the Pink Floyd template, similarly to the Beach Boys template below: Beatleswhobeachboys (talk) 23:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014
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persondata
I saw your message at WikiData about the possibility of a lua template. Before I do anything, are you ok with me proposing the removal of persondata? Can I email you the proposal before I post it, so you can look it over? Bgwhite (talk) 19:43, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, to both. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * See User:Bgwhite/Sandbox. Feel free to edit away.  Bgwhite (talk) 22:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I have posted the RFC here. Bgwhite (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I've had your draft open in a browser tab for the last few days, but couldn't think of nay improvements. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:52, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

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 * CirrusSearch was removed as the primary search method from Wikimedia Commons and the Spanish (es) Wikipedia due to a high server load. The plan to enable it on the Dutch (nl), Japanese (ja), Polish (pl) and Russian (ru) Wikipedias was also postponed to a later date.
 * The tool that stores information about languages (CLDR) was updated to its latest version. You can still help translate language names into your own language so they can be used in the sidebar and other places.
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Aristeidis Metallinos
Hi Pigsonthewing. Can you look over this article on Aristeidis Metallinos. Is it still on probation now I've added referenced citations and more specific categories? Suggest improvements? Is 'my' article still Start-Class? Simon Baddeley (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I love the Scops Owl; I heard and saw my first in Majorca in April. I wouldn't worry about the rating - they're explained at Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment, but most people don't bother to notice them. I would try, if you can, to give inline citations. Which source, for instance, says that the owl represents "a fast changing pastoral economy..."? Overall, though the article is sound and well past the minimum requirements to avoid deletion. Can you start an article on Ano Korakiana? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Andy. Encouragement and food for thought. The 'fast changing pastoral economy' needs a piece about Ano Korakiana, so thanks for a push on that.Simon Baddeley (talk) 13:53, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Warning
You have violated an active ArbCom restriction. Please self-revert immediately or you may be subject to an Arbitration Enforcement action. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:43, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * , you need to leave more info than just a threat. Which article and what restriction? Bgwhite (talk) 01:15, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes, Albert Schram. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:03, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * (watching) I looked at the article which had not come to my attention before. The edit improves Wikipedia. It's unfortunate that arbcom restrictions prevent that, see also --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, Nikki, as an intelligent reading of the relevant diffs shows, I did no such thing. But you're still stalking my (and others') edits. How many times have I (and others) told you to stop doing that?  Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:21, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I confess that I also fell for the first impression. We know from the case that looking at a diff without context can result in strange evaluation. Do you remember that you reportedly (causing the comment "concerns me deeply"), where all you did was . Nobody questioned the false evaluation (I tried at least), - that concerns me deeply. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Let's find out. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * What I see: an editor who worked on the article inserted infobox material in edits such as, and you, Andy, only formatted it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Like I said, an intelligent reading... Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:16, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * We certainly did: "No action taken; no violation." Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Infobox NHS trust
Andy, how would you like to fit into East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust - it's currently a real mess. Looking through, several of the others use a bespoke table in a similar manner. Several use ; unfortunately, a NHS trust may be responsible for more than one hospital. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added the necessary extra parameters (logo etc., image etc., beds) to the template, and made the change. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:31, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Richard Pine
Hi Andy. I'm having rather didactic advice from another [|Wiki editor] recommending immediate removal of a citation in the article I started recently. This editor is unwilling to discuss my contention that a citation - a public domain letter from Seamus Heaney to the subject also quoted in a book review of Pine's work - is not necessarily a primary source (I do know the rules). Chris Troutman seems to imply I might even have faked the letter in question, and that I "claim" to have degrees, and referring to "resorting to a website". I have no idea what he means. I don't feel inclined to get into an argument with someone prepared to write to me in these terms. QUOTE You asked for my suggestions; I replied. If you don't want the facts don't ask for them. Obviously, you are way out of your depth. I find it sad that someone whom claims to have degrees resorts to a website to publish their thoughts. If you can't contribute according to our norms, take your ball and go home. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC) END So much for "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." Am I being overly defensive? Is there a better way to cite this letter from the Heaney estate? Simon Baddeley (talk) 07:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've replied there. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:59, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom amendment box/template
Where is the template I'm supposed to use to appeal a topic ban. I can't find it on any of the RfAr subpages. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 22:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Copy the relevant blank from Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment/Template; see instructions at Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:40, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 22:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #119
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 * The first draft for the Main page redesign is ready for review (a summary of proposed changes can be found at Project Chat)
 * User:Thepwnco is working on updating Wikidata documentation for all sister projects, starting with Wikisource
 * Drop by the Wikidata Lounge, a new initiative to promote friendliness and civility started by d:User:Micru
 * Wikinews will get sitelink support on August 19th
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: b-side, executive producer, OpenPlaques identifier, pet, Lost Art-ID, journey origin
 * Development
 * Published the first JSON dumps
 * Finishing touches on badges support
 * Finishing touches on redirects
 * Finishing touches on the "in other projects" beta feature that displays links to sister projects in the sidebar of Wikipedia for example
 * Tested and fixed issues with allowing sitelinks to Wikidata pages and accessing item data via Lua on Wikidata itself
 * Final tests before we can start switching to the new serialization format
 * The code for simple queries is being reviewed by the Foundation. This is hopefully the last step before we can deploy this too.
 * Worked on improving the code of the parser function in preparation of allowing arbitrary data access and allowing linked output.
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Video formatting
Andy, I would like to add a 40 second video to Sip 'n Dip Lounge, but am not sure if that's a good idea (I have video of the piano player, "Piano Pat") I know you do the audio recording stuff, maybe you could help me out in terms of how much compression, etc. I once figured out how to export video into a commons-compatible format (with this little animation of still photos ) but I don't know if I used the best format, etc. Help? Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 03:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. We need more video. You can only upload video in an open format. I've never done video converison or compression for Commons, so regrettably can't help, but you could ask at Commons:Village pump. One thing though - what music is the pianist playing? If it's out of copyright, that's OK, but if not (if it's modern) that would be an issue. I assume you have PP's permission? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It's a public location, but the song she's playing probably IS under copyright, it's Ring of Fire (song). Does that pretty much deep six it?  Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  22:57, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It does. You could strip the audio (probably little point) or go back and ask her to play something out-of-copyright. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:01, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
 * A nice Beethoven piano sonata; there are plenty to choose from, and all are looong out of copyright - No. 14 is very well known. Or try one of Chopin's Nocturnes. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

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WikiMania 2014
Andy, I was glad to meet you and give you a Wikipedia editor hat at WikiMania 2012. I will have more hats at WikiMania 2014.

I don't follow how the lightning talks are going to happen, nor how I would sign up, and I would suspect I am not the only one. I have given several 2 minute lightning talks at the NYC chapter meetings, so I know how they are done. See my Hackathon entry about WikiProject templates for something I would talk briefly about in a lightning talk.

Perhaps you can reply to me here, and also clarify or get someone else to clarify lightning talks on the WikiMania 2014 pages.--DThomsen8 (talk) 13:26, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It will be good to see you again. I still wear the hat! Are your referring to https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Pre-Conference/Lightning_Talks - this is the first I knew of that! I proposed some lightning talks a while back, but didn't think the idea had been accepted. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for John McClure (producer)
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Clarification request: Infoboxes
Hello. There is a request for clarification to the Arbitration Committee involving you at WP:ARCA. You may wish to comment there. Regards,  Sandstein   13:09, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, your shameful attempt at forum shopping, when consensus was clearly against you, failed. As one Arbcom member said "This is not worth discussing". Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:28, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Clarification Request archived
The clarification request that you were involved in (filed by Sandstein) was archived as declined to Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes. - Penwhale &#124; dance in the air and follow his steps 09:02, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #120
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 * Discussions
 * Open RfAs: Gabbe
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * List of Wikidata talks at Wikimania 2014
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikidata's new Main page is almost ready to go live, but is still in need of a visually-appealing banner! Got an idea for an eye-catching design that represents what Wikidata's all about? Submit proposals before August 11 at d:Wikidata:Portal Redesign/Banner
 * Wikidata's tours are now translatable. You may help translating at d:Wikidata:Tours/Items and d:Wikidata:Tours/Statements.
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: published in
 * Showcase items: Kleinmachnow
 * Development
 * Created CLI script to import entities into the QueryEngine store (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Querycli.jpg)
 * More work on redirects (should be good to deploy on August 19th)
 * More work on the monolingual datatype
 * Started work on rewriting the sitelinks part of the user interface (that’s the first coding steps of getting us a new user interface design)
 * Final touches on badges (should be good to deploy on August 19th)
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 * Hack on one of these.
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 * Contribute to a Showcase item

DYK for Christine Jones (police officer)
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:39, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-32
<section begin="technews-2014-W32"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News updates


 * Tech News will be presented at the Wikimania 2014 conference in London! If you will be attending the conference, please join us in Auditorium 2 at 14:30 local time on Sunday, August 10.

Recent software changes
 * The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf16) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 31. Due to the Wikimania 2014 conference, it will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on August 12, and to all Wikipedias on August 14 (calendar).
 * You can now test a new tool to render wiki pages as PDF files.
 * You can now download an update to the archive of Wikimedia Commons files (uploaded up to December 31, 2013). If you have free space on your computer, please help preserve the files.
 * New users using the mobile Commons site now need to make 75 edits before they can upload a file.

VisualEditor news
 * You will no longer see an edit confirmation message after making a null edit with VisualEditor.
 * VisualEditor will no longer change underscores to spaces in category sort keys.
 * Many bugs that resulted in inserting the pawn and snowman symbols were fixed last week.
 * Several bugs related to the use of references were also fixed.

Future software changes
 * You will soon have a user option to watch pages where you revert edits.
 * All Toolserver data will be deleted in September. If you want to back up your data, [mailto:ts-admins@toolserver.org contact Toolserver administrators] before August 31.
 * Pages in the  namespace on wikis using the Translate extension will no longer be indexed by search engines.

Problems
 * Wikivoyage wikis were broken for about 45 minutes on July 29 due to a configuration problem.
 * Some users were not able to log in on test wikis and MediaWiki.org between July 31 and August 1. The problem is now fixed.

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Wikidata
I am after your advice as I believe you are experienced and knowledgeable enough to point me in the right direction. It is related to the current Persondata RfC.

On a personal level, I just want a reliable source of birth and death dates. I am currently working on a comparison of Persondata and Wikidata, see User:Periglio/Wikidata. This has already revealed a large discrepancy and I am digging deeper to find out where the problem is. It has already confirmed that there is nothing in place to keep Wikipedia and Wikidata synchronised.

Ultimately, I want to see Wikidata becoming the reliable source, which is where you come in. I have the technology to write bots that will interrogate pages, updating pages or flagging problems. I have been a Wikipedia editor since 2006, but Wikidata is new to me so I am not sure where to start. Where is a good place to introduce myself? Periglio (talk) 10:23, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Firstly, note that there is equally nothing in place to keep Wikipedia article content and Persondata synchronised. Your introduction would best be made at wikidata:Project chat, the equivalent of our Village Pumps. You might also like to sign up to Wikidata's low-traffic mailing list. See also Wikidata and its talk page. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. In reply to your note - Persondata does have the advantage of appearing in the edit screens. It does get updated, although I am not claiming that it always kept in sync. In fact, I have detected vandalism because the vandal missed Persondata. Having said that, I have found myself agreeing with your comment on the RfC - supporting persondata removal, but temporarily retaining it until some action plan is in place. Periglio (talk) 10:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Persondata only appears in edit screens for whole page, or last-section, edits. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

George M. Church
Have redactively edited the Cleanup tag at George M. Church, otherwise ask that you not remove tags, again, given the fact that there is an ongoing Noticeboard discussion of the issues involved (which makes reference to this and the other tags). Of all of them, the Cleanup tag is most easily understood in stating the issues involved. I shortened it to be responsive to the thrust of your concern. Please do not confuse matters by removing it. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 04:10, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Unsurprisingly, a discussion on a noticeboard - much less one beginning with a complaint about your editing - does not give you a licence to demand that only your version of an article may persist in the interim. I have again removed your essay from the top of the article. Please put it on the talk page, which exists for that purpose (or, if you insist, use that page to see if there is consensus to restore it). Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:39, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Please leave...
The tags, and the COI, POV, and OR issues they imply, are currently under discussion at a COI Noticeboard, see here. PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE TAGS AT THE ARTICLE TOP UNTIL THAT NOTICEBOARD ARRIVES AT A COMMUNITY DECISION. THIS IS NOT ONE EDITOR'S CALL. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * See above. SHOUTING does not change this. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 06:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates
Hi Pigsonthewing, I was looking at the List of Gaelic Athletic Association stadiums where I saw how you added a column for gps coordinates. A long time ago I know, but that doesn't really matter for my question. As a new wikipedian, adding coordinates seems like it would be simple but now that I look at it I can't seem to get my head around it. Considering you have experience with adding gps coordinates before and after taking a seconds glance at your (unending list of) contributions, I figured you'd be the guy to ask! Is adding coordinates as simple as getting them off google earth or walking out to the place with gps then editing the page with the coordinates you got? But each of the coordinates link to a website called 'Geohack' Do I need to create a page here first for the coordinates before putting them on wikipedia? I would be extremely grateful if you could explain this to me. Thank you so much! The Free Editor Anyone Can Cite (talk) 02:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The geohack page is generated automatically. Please see WP:GEOCODE. Let me know if you have further questions. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)