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TSSI entry
Please explain why you have reverted the page on the Temporal-System-Interpretation to what is very clearly an egregiously non-neutral edit by theantichrist. I have been following this entry closely and I believe that you should have consulted with me before entering the fray. The best action now, I believe, is to revert to a more neutral edit and then continue the discussion.

Watchdog07
 * Not me. By the way it is normal to add comments to the end of talk pages, not the beginning. Rich Farmbrough, 12:27 24  April 2007 (GMT).

Homelessness article
Hi Rich. The article on Homelessness is being hammered by vandalism. We have had to spend a lot of time fixing the vandalism. We could use some protection for a respite if deemed reasonable. Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 00:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC) (talk)
 * Had a look, looks like I missed the vandalism. Rich Farmbrough, 16:52 20 April 2007 (GMT).

Oh well. We've been fighting it on a daily basis. Thanks anyway. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 17:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC) (talk)
 * Thanks, Rich, for the s-protect. It gives us editors a breather. Even for a little while. Cheers. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 22:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC) (talk)
 * No probs.

uncat date parameter
Hi, Uncategorized can now accept "date=" syntax, would Alaibot be able to swop over to this style? Thanks, Rich Farmbrough, 15:24 20 April 2007 (GMT).

OK, change made, will be using that from the next run on. Alai 17:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

OTOH, I see no real reason to change existing usages retrospectively: that looks like a huge number of edits to no real purpose. Alai 21:27, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Smackbot stop

 * Copied from User talk:Smackbot:

Redoing spacing in an inappropriate manner
Diff. This one isn't serious: There is no reason to remove spacing between nav tags and categories; it just makes the code harder to read. This one is serious: It really should not be removing spacing between stub tags and whatever preceded them (usually categories, sometimes interwikis or even regular content); stub tags have a known problem that they need two blank lines between them and whatever preceded them, or they butt up against the last content in the page that preceded them when the page is rendered in the browser. Looks like crap, but WP:WSS is unlikely to fix this any time soon, since it means changing the behavior of thousands of stub templates. Example - smackbot is changing:

to

and this is a Bad Thing. — SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93;   ‹(-¿-)› 14:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I've replied at length to your reply over at User talk:SMcCandlish. — SMcCandlish &#91;talk&#93; &#91;cont&#93;   ‹(-¿-)› 00:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: SUBSTing templates
Thanks for the info- I wasn't aware that it was a bad idea. Nwwaew (Talk Page) (Contribs) (E-mail me) 02:11, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

FAQ date-rot
You might want to tweak "Gets us ready for the change-over to 13 digit ISBNs at the end of the year." (and anything similar) in your FAQ. (I spend the first quarter of each year chasing such things on a massive website, so I sympathise...) Andy Mabbett 20:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Rich Farmbrough, 21:27 22 April 2007 (GMT).

Your view of ISBN-13?
Reposting this here (archived recently):

Hello Rich. I notice this template has been created, perhaps by people who didn't know that ISBN magic would work with ISBN-13. In the past, counter-productive ISBN templates have been deleted with fair regularity, after the issue was explained. Do you have any strong views on this one? I assume that, since subst may not be used, your off-line ISBN-checker, which reads wiki text, would face an additional hurdle in checking for validity that it wouldn't face if the ISBN were entered in the normal way. The claimed benefit, from the entry for ISBN-13, is that this allows a where-used function for usage of ISBN-13 within Wikipedia. So what do you say? Replying here on your Talk page is fine. EdJohnston 19:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * AFAIC it can go. In fairness, though, ISBN has only supported 13 digits relatively recently. Rich Farmbrough, 10:15 11  April 2007 (GMT).
 * RevRagnarok has nominated it for deletion here. In the discussion, I cited what I imagined were the needs of SmackBot. Not certain whether people really like this template or if it was just put in because Mediawiki support didn't exist yet. It was created in July 2006. EdJohnston 04:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Changes to date parameter format
I see that SmackBot has resumed mass-conversion of numeric to named date parameter usages, subsequent to my query as to why you're doing this. (You may have missed this, due to my having added it to an existing section.) This just seems completely pointless to me:  why make tens of thousands of edits to convert formats, when they'll just "wither on the vine" anyway? Alai 07:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * On a side note: in the light of this, edits like this look rather odd.  I don't see the need to convert old usages, but it would make sense to add them in the revised format...  Alai 08:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, absolutely, ~I have a feature request in with the AWb developers for this. Rich Farmbrough, 09:30 23 April 2007 (GMT).
 * I did miss your previou query. Yes, I understand, they would "wither on the vine" somewhat, but people will carry on (a) usng the old syntax (which is not a problem in itself), and (b) using other values (like "article" or misformatted or typo'd dates)  for parameter 1, which puts the articles in spurious categories, and is hard to find (see my answer to User:Sable above).  I have suspended "general fixes" so that the stub spacing problem is not made any worse, although I believe there is a better solution to that (and it pains me to see the other "general fixes" not being fixed). Rich Farmbrough, 09:23 23  April 2007 (GMT).
 * Fairly rapidly withering in some cases, in fact: uncat is shrinking faster than I can fill it up (and I'm filling it rather a lot).  I'll grant you that some of them seem to be backlogged an ungodly number of months, so it's obviously not true of all -- "orphan" springs to mind.  But OK, and thanks for turning off the "general fixes".  (I didn't immediately twig that these were AWB changes, which explains a lot.  They really ought to allow unbundling of the "general" cleanup...)  I also notice that in a couple of cases, it was not actually doing any template-related tasks, and was only doing general AWB "cleanup" type, some very minor indeed (like removing leading and trailing spaces from headers), and doing it all under the same summary.  Alai 10:17, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed "Orphan" is the problem child, uncat and unref are small by comparison (and I think pretty much sorted). Wikify I haven't looked at yet, but I may be inclined to pick that one up on a month by month basis. I agree about unbundling general cleanup, it would allow those with slightly thicker skins to be more active, although I've not really had major grief about things that could be considered correct for some time, so perhaps the place is more robo-friendly than of yore. Rich Farmbrough, 11:23 23 April 2007 (GMT).

Locopops
I have added a "" template to the article Locopops, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Tarheelcoxn 08:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Smackbot's opinioins of wikifying
Hey, I'm curious if it's possible to get opinions on what needs to be done to Raum to get the wikify tag removed. Cheers! Murderbike 18:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just wandering around, saw this note, and wikified the page. To answer the general question, an article that needs to be wikified needs internal (blue) links, sections with headers, and a lead sentence formatted according to the standards here (such as the Manual of Style.  The Raum article wasn't bad at all; it already had links, just needed a small amount of section and lead formatting.  *Vendetta* (whois talk edits) 21:33, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

And now I'm curious how many articles need to link to an article to be able to remove the orphan tag. The Kitchen Syncopators has at least four regular articles linking to it, which seems like plenty to me, is there a standard that Smackbot goes by to place these tags? Murderbike 21:30, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Playmates templates
Please stop de-capitalizing the word "Playmate". It is a title and as such, it should be capitalized. By changing this in the categories in particular, you are breaking the category link. Dismas |(talk) 10:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds like we're agreed then. Dismas |(talk) 10:48, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Rich Farmbrough/test
I have added a "" template to the article User:Rich Farmbrough/test, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. 172.144.12.192 14:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * See the real talk page. And regression testing. Rich Farmbrough, 15:04 24  April 2007 (GMT).

Rani Mukherjee
Hi Mr. Farmbrough! Our issues have now been resolved on Rani Mukherjee's page. It would be great if you could unlock the page now so that we can work on it as we've got our ideas together. Thanks. --shez 24:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Unprotected. Rich Farmbrough, 21:37 24 April 2007 (GMT).

Road traffic in Denmark
Hi! You need a citation in the article Road traffic in Denmark. Unfortunately I cannot find it written anywhere (as if I was looking) but it was and still is what I see every day working as a truck driver in Copenhagen. G®iffen 19:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, hopefully someone else will find something to cite. Rich Farmbrough, 21:37 24 April 2007 (GMT).

SmackBot odd behavior
I found these two edits odd. First it put the date and changed the template name. Then it returned a few hours later and added the date= parameter. &mdash; RevRagnarok Talk Contrib 20:42, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I slipped back to the less improved version, and had to revis9it about 20 articles. Similarly I am now doing some "odd" articles (about 40) by hand, and they will be re-visited to make them canonical. Rich Farmbrough, 21:30 24 April 2007 (GMT).

CHICOTW
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The Moonlight Sonata in popular culture
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Note to self
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 * Rich Farmbrough, 09:31 25 April 2007 (GMT).

Unhandeled exception Jewelry wire gauge

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Rich Farmbrough, 14:50 25 April 2007 (GMT).

Deleted item
Self-organization processes of prime integer relations Rich Farmbrough, 16:51 28 April 2007 (GMT).

International motorsport hall of fame
What's with "Date fragments delinked.rm surplus table end. USA->U.S."? What's the point in that? John Anderson 18:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Per WP:MOSNUM it is not generally necessary to link bare years.
 * There was a random "|}" in the article.
 * Perfectionist, maybe, but U.S. is the preferred WP abbreviation for the United States, so I cahnged that wile I was there.
 * Rich Farmbrough, 18:43 28 April 2007 (GMT).


 * OK, I didn't know that. The years were linked even before I started to reshape the list.
 * I know, I am currently reshaping the list and was coming to that.
 * It is perfectionist, especially since it is not even seen for the reader.
 * Thanks for your answers. John Anderson 09:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

SmackBot deleted hyphen in template name
This edit replaced with. The deleted hyphen gave a redlink to the template. PrimeHunter 14:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 15:55 29 April 2007 (GMT).

Smackbot and current-related
This is not a major problem but I think it should be pointed out. When Smackbot comes across current-related it changes it to Current related, which is a redirect. Example --Philip Stevens 16:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, fixed. Rich Farmbrough, 16:05 29 April 2007 (GMT).

Union Stock Yards GA
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Virgina Tech
Thanks for your kind comment on my page. Life is happenstance and fragile. An engineering grad student, who is one of my favorite contra dance partners, emailed me that he had been chained into the building by Cho, but thankfully was safe in the lab on the first floor, unlike many of his colleagues. At a dinner party last night in Roanoke, a friend who drove up from Montgomery County and works at Tech with the wife of one of the professors killed, told me Dr. Granata was in his office on the third floor when he heard shots. He locked students in his office, went down to investigate and never returned. I just looked it up and his story in the Washington Post is here:. Another friend at dinner told me that her friend who works in a local hospital said someone in the building in the aftermath said the eeriest thing was the sound of thirty cell phones on the floor repeatedly ringing.--Beth Wellington 22:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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I think this may have happened before where the bot tries to "correct" this particular template parameter (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dred_Scott_v._Sandford&diff=119276990&oldid=119179788). Cheers. --MZMcBride 09:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Guster

 * Thansk for the invite. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52 3 May 2007 (GMT).

Smackbot feature suggestion - autolowercase Date
Earlier this month I added to Russian witchcraft. Notice the typo with the capitalized D in Date. This breaks the automatic "Category: Articles to be merged since April 2007" system. It took me awhile to catch my mistake. Consider having SmackBot fix these types of trivial mistakes. Thank you. Davidwr 03:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * SB should fix these errors, one way or another. However it has had a few days off. Rich Farmbrough, 16:19 3 May 2007 (GMT).

Date fixes
SmackBot is still using "April 2007" for date fixes (cf. Conductor: this diff). -- JHunterJ 17:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, fixed. Rich Farmbrough, 17:10 3 May 2007 (GMT).

Subst with dlw-inline
Substing problem on, both dead link and dlw-inline use the same format as the fact templates. —Dispenser 23:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this is due to a bug with WP interpreting Magic Wordss within ref tags. I have a workaround for this in place. Rich Farmbrough, 09:25 5 May 2007 (GMT).

Birth and death dates
Do you think SmackBot might convert birth dates in infoboxes, such as:



or



to



and, if there is no death date present, to



If there is a death date, that could be converted to



or



Thank you. Andy Mabbett 11:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Seems easy enough. Let me do some trials in a bit. Rich Farmbrough, 11:21 20 April 2007 (GMT).


 * Note also, as used on Infobox Military Person. Andy Mabbett 21:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Any joy? Andy Mabbett 22:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

At the same time, you could check (do they match?), and if necessary add, year of -birth and -death categories (though I and others would agree that such categories should be included in the templates; in which case you'd need to remove them from elsewhere in the article). Andy Mabbett 14:12, 21 April 2007 (UTC)


 * How does this fit with PERSONDATA? Rich Farmbrough, 16:06 29 April 2007 (GMT).


 * Persondata is metadata for specialist parsers of database dumps. Microformats are metadata for parsers of be pages, including ordinary users with the requisite browser tools (native support will be in Firefox 3). It's also my belief that Persondata is a developmental cul-de-sac, but that's by-the-bye. Andy Mabbett 21:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Any news? Andy Mabbett 11:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I think the bot should maintain the default date format by applying templates such Euro birth date where a day first or little endian date format is found e.g.:

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My name is Rich Knight and I work for SMITH MAGAZINE. I'm interested in interviewing you.
Hello, my name is Rich Knight and I work with an on-line publication called SMITH Magazine(http://smithmag.net/). Our mission is to explore storytelling in all its forms, and we'd love to write a story about the person who's written (or edited) the most wikipedia entries. This story would be the first in a series we're looking to start that would chronicle the lives of many others who've made vast, vast, (VAST) contributions to the web, and what better place to start than with a dedicated wikipedia writer? The interview (either by instant messanger or emails) would definitely turn some heads and would get wikipedia some great press.

SMITH Magazine has already been recognized by many established publications, and one of the projects that ran on our site is even featured on wikipedia itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_War_%28comics%29). I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you and take care.

--Riknight36 14:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Chicago Landmark Stubification
I am writing you because you either (1) edited Chicago Landmark 5 weeks ago when it was the WP:CHICOTW (2) edited it or created a stub last week when we had the stubification drive for it or (3) you nominated an article to be the CHICOTW in the last few days.

I have finally had a chance to take a tally on last week’s stubification effort. Based on my manual count we now have 109 bluelinks on a total of 241 landmarks. Preliminary indications were that for our article to be successful at WP:FLC we would need to eventually rename it (something like List of Chicago Landmarks) and get the majority of the landmarks linked. Based on my cursory count we need to write 12 more articles to get to a majority. It would be great if you might be able to assist by creating a couple stubs to assist in this effort. Here are some of the stubs that were created during last week’s efforts: Black Metropolis-Bronzeville District, Historic Michigan Boulevard District, Arthur H. Compton House & One North LaSalle. Among the articles still redlinked are 2 buildings on this week’s CHICOTW, Magnificent Mile (Perkins, Fellows & Hamilton Office and Studio, Woman's Athletic Club). Recall that each redlink on Chicago Landmark has a footnote to a reference that gives you enough info to create a stub. If you create a new stub please add it to WikiProject_Chicago so that we can keep track of the progress. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

SmackBot question
Hello. Should this edit have been for "2007" instead of "07"? It looks like there may have been 16 articles which were affected and are sitting in Category:Cleanup from May 07. I'm not sure if there are other similar red cats out there. --After Midnight 0001 22:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, yes it should. I believe I have fixed all cases of this problem, and the underlying cause. Thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 10:58 19 May 2007 (GMT).

Recent SmackBot edit
Hi Rich. FYI, in this recent edit to 2005 United States Grand Prix, SmackBot changed "Date = June 19" to "date = June 19" thereby breaking the infobox. I'm not sure how often this occurs, or how easy this circumstance would be to avoid in the future; maybe it's just easier to fix them on case-by-case basis. Regards. DH85868993 01:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * This is a tricky one. Thanks for letting me know. Rich Farmbrough, 14:12 19 May 2007 (GMT).

SmackBot and caption breaks
Hi Rich. I'm contacting you wrt to some recent edits by SmackBot to the article Eurovision Song Contest 2008. The bot has removed a break from the caption of Image:Pre-ESCmap 2008nonsemi.PNG, on May 14 (first time and second time) and earlier today. It's not a severe error and it can easily be undone, but it is an edit that disrupts the deliberately chosen layout of the caption. If SmackBot performs such edits on this article, it might do it elsewhere as well. I would like to know if it was written to do this, if it was a glitch, or simply a consequence of the chosen layout. A ecis Brievenbus 13:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a general AWB fix to remove surplus line-breaks. Strangely the forced line break of the bulleted list doesn't seem to work in captions, this may be a mediawiki bug.  I've put a fix in to the page, so that it is unlikely to be changed again (actually the blank space after the break also worked, but that is the sort of thing likely to be fixed anyway).   I may do a search for bulleted lists in captions, I imagine they're rare.  Thanks for letting me know. Rich Farmbrough, 14:04 19 May 2007 (GMT).
 * You might want to have a look at this edit as well, where SmackBot partially removed a flag from a header, but left the pixel size in place. A  ecis Brievenbus 00:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Tricia Yearwood
Hi there. Did you actually create Tricia Yearwood? I was kind of puzzled by your edit summary of "copyedit". Anyway, I've redirected it to Trisha Yearwood. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. Sorry for the bother. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Category links
In this diff SmackBot removed the piped part of category links that cause the names to be sorted by last name. Is there a new policy on this? -Ravedave 14:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, you may not have noticed SB also inserted { {DEFAULTSORT:Kline, John} }, this causes the correct sort to take place both for explicit and implicit categories. Best wishes, Rich Farmbrough, 14:54 19 May 2007 (GMT).
 * Excellent, thanks -Ravedave 15:14, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Burnham Park GA
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

SmackBot on uncategorized pages
Hello, SmackBot is putting uncategorized pages into "May 07", not "May 2007", filling up Category:Uncategorized from May 07. Thanks! -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this is a known problem that should not recur. Rich Farmbrough, 23:16 19 May 2007 (GMT).

Interesting edit
SmackBot just changed to  . Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see the point of that one. Anomie 00:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * SB visited the page because of the undated fact tag that was removed (in the previous edit) by the time it got there. SB canonicalizes the tags it deals with because it is the only realistic way to deal with the thousands of different (valid and invalid) combinations of layout, capitalisation, format, synonymical templates etc..  It will not normally visit a page where it would only make that type of change. Hope that helps, Rich Farmbrough, 14:55 20 May 2007 (GMT).

Patent model
Thanks for your message on my talk page! Cheers, --Edcolins 20:12, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Does SB think 4711 is a year?
Hi, SB made this edit to We (novel). SB removed the link to 4711, which is an article about the Eau de Cologne number 4711. I have restored the link. What do you recommend to prevent a recurrence? --Jtir 18:32, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I've answered my own question. "4711" is a date per WP:DATE.
 * "A page title that is just a positive whole number is always a year."
 * This guideline seems to be citing 4711 as a counter-example, however.
 * I'll see about getting the article renamed (and maybe fixing the guideline).
 * There is already a redirect from 4711 (brand), which would seem to be the preferred name.
 * --Jtir 07:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone had renamed "4711 (brand)" to "4711", so I reverted that. I also fixed the guideline. I believe this problem is resolved. --Jtir 09:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

You did the right thing. Rich Farmbrough, 10:20 21 May 2007 (GMT).
 * Thanks for your confirmation. --Jtir 10:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Honestly
Doesn't Smacky have better things to do than this? —Angr 20:37, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed. It was attracted by unreferencedsection, which has been renamed in the past few days. Rich Farmbrough, 10:25 21 May 2007 (GMT).

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Category:Articles with unsourced statements since August 2006
fits the criteria for speedy deletion for the following reason: '''G6 (housekeeping). Empty maintenance category that categorises by month ... should not be repopulated.''' --Android Mouse Bot 2 00:42, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

No content in Category:Uncategorized stubs from April 2007
has been empty for at least four days, and its only content has been links to parent categories. (CSD C1). --Android Mouse Bot 2 02:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

CHICOTW
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Theatre GA
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

HMS Royal Oak
Hi there, a few weeks back you edited this disambiguation page to read Eight (or twelve, depending on how one counts) vessels of the British Royal Navy have been named HMS Royal Oak. Isn't the correct figure Eight (or eleven, depending on how one counts)? 8 physical vessels, one of which was rebuilt three times, making a total of eleven. Or am I going mad? Regards, &mdash; BillC talk 20:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No you are right. I spotted that the first figure was wrong, and assumed the second would be out by the same amount. Rich Farmbrough, 21:30 23 May 2007 (GMT).
 * Thanks. &mdash; BillC talk 21:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Template "current" and its relatives
I have taken the liberty of removing from several hundred articles the tag that were no longer current,or  incorrectly using the tag, and the like. I see you've had some relationship to the template it in the past, and I guess you were involved in getting the dating feature working for the template, and getting smackbot to date all template's uses. Thanks. I would like to put forward for consideration a much narrower policy on the use of, and also revise the categories that templates like  and various others use. I also see that the current events portal suggests using current in a rather expansive way compared to the original development of the template. It does seem that no one pays much attention to the tag...not a peep from editors of all of those articles, for example. Who are the leading individuals who would care about this to consult with, as I stumble toward writing up a well-formed proposal? -- Yellowdesk 06:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)