User talk:Ritchie333/Archive 108

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oldest Belgian families
it looks as if no one but the article creator argued to keep at Articles for deletion/Oldest Belgian families, against delete supports by Piotrus, myself, and Eggishorn, and a comment by Peterkingiron stating in part " Basically this is families recorded in a certain genealogical dictionary, I am not sure that is an adequate basis for a WP article". Wouldn't a "delete" be the more logical conclusion from this than a "no consensus"? Fram (talk) 08:43, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * After ’s relist on 4 February, the debate stayed open for a further nine days without comment. I therefore closed it owing to a lack of interest. A NC close like this does not prevent a second AfD. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  08:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've started a DRV instead, see Deletion review/Log/2020 February 14. Fram (talk) 09:39, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Starting a second AfD would have been simpler, wouldn't it? Now it'll need to be delayed while we discuss this. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * This way at least we'll have some guidance whether the closure was correct or not, and no one can complain about rapid renominations or "why didn't you take the other one to DRV instead". Fram (talk) 12:20, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oxford Circus
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Oxford Circus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pkbwcgs -- Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Good Article Mentor
Hello, I'm a pretty new editor on wikipedia and have just completed my first good article review (On the nominator asking me to do so directly). I saw your name listed on the good article help-mentor page which states that you're keen on geography/place reviews. It also recommends that new reviewers should contact one and therefore I'm here asking if you'd like to take a look at my first review (for the article for Mangalore). I've gone through WP:GAI and WP:GA? and tried to be as thorough as possible. Thank you. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 13:56, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've read the article, but not in depth. There's nothing that would obviously cause a GA view to immediately fail, and the nominator has worked on it extensively over a significant period of time. Provided the issues you have found with wording, verification and reliability are addressed, I don't see an issue with this passing. You mention "May have WP:UNDUE weightage in the Sports section" - I think this needs to be more specific. The "Sports and passtimes" section looks quite concise and appropriate. Or was this addressed during the review? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It was fixed, the sports section used to contain subsection dedicated to each sport (cricket, football, golf, etc). The nominator did fix all the issues that I had mentioned so I've given it a good article pass. Tayi Arajakate (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thetford
Just nuked a lot of this, mainly unsourced, typical haphazard bloat. Interested in working on it sometime this week? No worries if you're busy.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:33, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I realise I have not been pulling my weight enough recently with GAs, so this looks like another one to have a crack at. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  13:10, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oxford Circus
The article Oxford Circus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Oxford Circus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pkbwcgs -- Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:42, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elham Valley Railway
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Elham Valley Railway you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pkbwcgs -- Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

DYK for A1206 road (Great Britain)
--valereee (talk) 00:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Elham Valley Railway
The article Elham Valley Railway you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Elham Valley Railway for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Pkbwcgs -- Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't suppose you could give this a quick review? While I'm reasonably confident I know what a GA is, I'm sceptical that a couple of underlinked sections is the only thing wrong with it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:02, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Happy to take a look, for sure. Not sure about what happens if two reviewers conflict over sentencing, but we'll cross that bridge in due course. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:07, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

Deletion of John DIliberto Page
Hi- I'd like to know why the page John Diliberto was deleted? And I'd like it reposted please. I am John Diliberto. There's about 500 mentions of me in Wikipedia. I am an international figure, albeit a minor one. Thanks. John Diliberto — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdiliberto (talk • contribs) 20:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
 * As the deletion log says, John Diliberto was deleted because : "G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of echoes.org/about/people". See User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to copyvios for more information. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

The Who tour articles
Is there a reason why you redirected the articles about the Who's tours and performances before 1979 to List of The Who tours and performances? Additionally, The Who Tour 1969 was awaiting a peer review, so I don't know why you redirected that article. Chrisnait (talk) 19:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm in the middle of merging / expanding the articles together, so I have added an "under construction" tag. The Who Tour 1969 seems to be a copy / paste of the "Live performances" section of Tommy (The Who album) - I can recognise parts I wrote for the latter article. We don't need two articles saying the same thing. A list of every single gig played is probably overkill for a general purpose encyclopedia. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * @R333 fair enough. But I see you left a reminder for Chrisnait to H:FIES earlier. No offence, but if you had done the same when you redirected that nine-year-old article, the I wouldn't have had to find out on the bloody PR page. Wot gives?! Perhaps you are on the 5.15 :p  ——  SN  54129  20:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, the tour articles are mostly rubbish (the 1969 one having been expanded by Chrisnait is not bad, though as I've said, splitting it per year doesn't make sense) and had been bugging me for years, so this evening I decided to sit down and do something about it. I didn't realise one had been expanded and put up for PR! <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I apologize for not putting an template at the top of the article while expanding it, because I didn't know of the template's existence until now. Also, I'll admit to using sections from the "Live performances" section of Tommy (The Who album) during the expansion, because I couldn't find a way to write certain sections of the article in a good way. Additionally, I do agree that most of the tour pages were pretty bad, since they lacked citations and were short. I was actually in the process of a long-term project to update all of the tour articles before 1979 with more citations and information, beginning with The Who Tour 1969, but now I can't, because most of the info in the pages are being moved to List of The Who tours and performances. Chrisnait (talk) 21:08, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That's alright, I apologise that I had an idea to do something about these articles about 4-5 years ago and never bothered to get round to doing it or telling anyone about it. Great minds think alike! Anyway, we now have the Tommy Tour article which has all your work. Also, the work on the other articles is not lost, and if you don't think it should be a redirect, you can follow the bold, revert, discuss cycle, revert the redirect, and we can discuss it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds good to me. I'm currently in the process of expanding the Tommy Tour article. Chrisnait (talk) 22:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , could I please make an article about the Who's 1967–68 tour supporting The Who Sell Out? Chrisnait (talk) 22:02, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * There wasn't really a "tour" in the conventional sense; it was just the disastrous Australian tour followed by months and months of just gigging without being any sort of planned tour. When you've got a band that's not making any money (because the receipts from gigs get cancelled out by the smashed guitars) then just gigging indefinitely is what you have to do. I don't think I've done much work on The Who Sell Out article itself, so that could be one to improve to GA, if you've got the source material. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:17, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * What about the band's Who by Numbers tour? The Who by Numbers WP page barely mentions the tour. Chrisnait (talk) 00:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, the 1975-76 tour could do with an article. It was one of the longest, resulting the band getting back to their '69-71 peak, and was the first to be a typical "greatest hits" set as opposed to all previous ones which showcased new material. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:29, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm working on the article right now. Chrisnait (talk) 21:02, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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PREPARE
Could you unprotect this from creation, then I can move PREPARE (project) to it? Thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've moved the article directly onto it, which admins can do. The original protecting administrator is no longer around and is indeed globally locked as their account is compromised. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:12, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Could you please check your email?
I emailed you something important. Analog Horror, (Communicate) 19:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look, but unless it involves confidential information that should not be published in a public place, I don't see why it can't be dealt with here. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:02, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've had a look. The page, Flying toast said, verbatim : "flying toast The Flying Toast video has more that 200000 views. about the video the 2 second video contains two pieces of toast slowly flying in the air super fast". What on earth makes that a suitable article for a global encyclopedia? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey Threesie. Get down with the kids, dude. Or your tenure here as an admin is almost certainly over: Martinevans123 (talk) 13:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC) p.s. but you might find this useful.
 * "Look! I don't want any toast, and he doesn't want any toast. In fact, no-one around 'ere wants any toast! No toast, buns, baps, bagets or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no teacakes, no potato cakes and no hot cross buns! And definitely no smegging flapjacks!" (But Welsh cakes, absolutely...) <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:16, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Mail
Schazjmd  (talk)  16:37, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Wincheap
Maybe it’s the heat here in Brazil but I don’t understand — how is it obvious that the road gave its name to the suburb? <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 14:35, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * A search for local sources (for local people) brings back Wincheap Park and Ride and Wincheap Morrisons and Wincheap industrial estate. None of which are on Wincheap. The WP:ASTONISHME factor is - a road is an inanimate strip of tarmac, how can it give anything to anything else?<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:18, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, I get it now. The trouble is, ASTONISHME is a plea to omit the obvious, not the impossible or illogical. <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 16:56, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Poor Morrisons shopper (for local people). Maybe "Ten Perch Road" gave its name to ten local fish?? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:12, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * When I was a kid I thought, “Fish Ranch Road? They grow fish on ranches?” <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 17:49, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Right. That's it! I'm leaving... I`m gonna take up with ah mermaid. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:51, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , yup: fish ranching. --valereee (talk) 10:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Prompted by your helpful post, I dug a bit deeper and learned something. When I got a bit older I realized that, of course, Fish Ranch Road was named for a ranch owned by Mr. or Mrs. Fish. But it turns out I had been right in the first place: there was, in fact, a "fish and frog farm" in the area owned by the "Oakland Trout Company". <b style="color: red;">E</b><b style="color: blue;">Eng</b> 17:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Urban Dictionary tells me that may be connected with the Jolly Rancher, which sounds delightful. (It also has a definition for fish farming, but I'm not sure we should even go there). Martinevans123 (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

The Paul McCartney Archive Collection
Hi Ritchie, I know you've done a lot of work on Beatles-related articles in the past, so I wanted to get a second opinion... does the Paul McCartney Archive Collection seem like a redundant article to you, and possible AfD? As far as I can tell, it's just a list of all his albums that have been remastered, and the two that have won Grammys for Best Historical Album, well, those can be mentioned at the respective albums' articles. Richard3120 (talk) 19:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added two independent sources and done a bit of fact checking. I think we should be able to make something of the article and flesh it out. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:22, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ritchie – not living in the UK any more means I don't have access to anything regarding British music releases except online sources. Richard3120 (talk) 17:28, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

Classic Keys: Keyboard Sounds That Launched Rock Music
Thank you Ritchie333 for your intervention with MrOllie. I would welcome you or an editor of your choice making an assessment of Classic Keys and its relevance to keyboard articles. There are a number of starting points embedded in the paragraphs I wrote on MrOllie's talk page. However, I'm happy to answer any questions you have. There is an overview website at www.classickeysbook.com and the Amazon US listing contains 21 reviews from readers. David Robertson Docrobbie (talk) 06:34, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * As a source, it looks fine - the book has had a positive review in Sound on Sound and their trustworthy and independent view is it's well researched and clearly written by subject experts. I would have to get a copy and read it myself in order to determine its factual accuracy, and would need to see if it adds anything over and above the sources already used in the articles. In particular, I would like to compare its Hammond coverage over Scott Faragher's book, which is what is currently used and is (IMHO) the definitive source for the instrument. I have long wanted to get Wurlitzer electric piano to good article status, and this source may be the missing link I need to do that. I don't know what on earth MrOllie's playing at, he's going to end up blocked if he carries on ignoring the substance of an article and just parroting rhetoric (and that's not a threat, that just a plain old observation). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I had a look at the website and .... wow, the book has been endorsed by *gulp* Rick Wakeman, Donald Fagen, Chuck Leavell and Steve Nieve. Just missing Tony Banks (but he's never been one to look back on old gear). Never mind reliability, I want a copy for my own personal enjoyment! I also had a look at another website and invite to leave a witty remark in response. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:02, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * * Considers establishing a reputation for being sarcastic-on-demand about minimal content creation combined with a reliance on automated tools; realises it would set the seal once and for all on my reputation as an utter turnip-head* ——  SN  54129  11:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * *bang* give me a witty comment or you're dead *bang* give me a witty comment or you're dead, my lord. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  11:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Hello Ritchie333. It was a great relief when you joined the discussion. I was ready to walk away - and I regret to say I was honing some parting words. I'm relieved that you like what you see of Classic Keys so far. I do hope you can lay your hands on a copy. It is, of necessity, an overview of mid to late 20th Century instruments winnowed by the significance of the instruments' sounds to use in rock music. While there are clearly more complete single-subject accounts of instruments, such as the Hammond organ, the Mellotron and the Moog synthesizer, this is, as far as I'm aware, the only "complete" discussion of this era of keyboards (besides the two overview chapters in Vintage Synthesizers). I'm a hobbyist restorer of keyboards. It's my restored Pianet N that is sampled on Nord's collection of vintage instruments. I've contributed various innovations to the vintage keys restoration world - such as the hammer alignment tool that Clavinet.com now sells. And Vintage Vibe has used my replica Vox Continental vinyl in a few of its restorations. As I pointed out to MrOllie, writing a book about Classic Keys is not a path to wealth. The amount of money earned from the exercise is in inverse proportion to the amount of effort spent. Amazon is making good money. The publisher will, if they are fortunate, break even. And Alan and I are effectively giving away $100 with every copy sold. I assume that it will still not be acceptable for me to revert MrOllie's reversions of my additions of Classic Keys into the Bibliographies of keyboard articles. I hope you find sufficient value in the book to feel comfortable editing it back into the relevant locations. If you want to carry on general discussion of vintage keyboard things that you feel are inappropriate for Wikipedia discussion pages, my contact details are in the book, or self-evident in my author biography on the book's website. Docrobbie (talk) 01:40, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm glad to hear that. The more I looked into the situation, the more impressed I have been with your track record, to the extent I would now trust your history and technical knowledge of the Hammond over my own. It did not take me long to identify your expertise in this subject and your receipt of the Queen's Birthday Honours in 2014. I've been a Hammond player for about 30 years, not in any bands you'd have heard of, just local party / function / wedding stuff, but I've always found the older electromechanical keyboards easier to set up and play something in a band set up that digital synths just don't seem to be able to do. A consistent talking point at gigs is "wow, how do you get that Hammond sound". I use a Nord Stage 2 as my main sound board (I'm on the Nord User Forum but I don't have much to post about). Anyway, I've got a bit of a gripe with Amazon; is there anywhere else online I can order the book? I've already put a link to the website on my personal Facebook page with the simple intro "Want this", but Christmas is a long way away......
 * Anyway, per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Instruments I am happy for you to use the book as a citation in keyboard articles; for example if page 123 contains a detailed description of the features and mechanics of the Farfisa Compact Duo, and you add  to Farfisa (see Template:Sfn for an explanation of how to cite books using shortened footnotes with Harvard referencing), I would not have an issue with it. If you get any problems, contact me and I'll address it; it's unusual for subject experts to edit Wikipedia articles and that's why some editors get confused, but in this instance the source has been independently checked out.
 * This is the second time this week I have found you have been actively disruptive and driving subject experts away, and I see from a quick perusal from your talk page that is far from the first complaint on this that you have received. So, please take this advice - stop and think. Read the source material you are presented with and at least attempt to understand what it says; don't be quick to assume bad faith on anyone who talks a reasoned argument. Don't parrot policy at new users, it's not helpful; instead look at what is best for the encyclopedia, then if you aren't sure, refer back to policy as a guide to how contentious situations can be resolved. On a number of occasions, you have come close to violating the three revert rule, and I'll remind you that if necessary for the good of the project, you can be blocked for that just like any other editor can. I know we all specialise in different areas, we have content creators, gnomes, copyeditors, vandal patrollers and sockpuppet investigators, but we all have to work together, and frankly you are coming across as not just ignorant, but proudly ignorant, and that is a completely incompatible attitude with the teamwork ethic that we need here. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:51, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheapest available copy at the mo, fyi ——  SN  54129  17:04, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * As Peter Kay put it, logged in, bought it, f***ed off.... estimated delivery 7 March???? Ah well, you get what you pay for, I guess. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:10, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

As a consequence of photographing and assembling the book I ended up with seven tonewheel Hammonds, including, remarkably, the beautiful B-3 and M-3 organs shown in the book. I had given up the thought of ever owning one, but, over a few years, formed a friendship with the owner before he died - all stemming from an initial request to simply photograph the instruments at the owner's house. I have never played one in public, and I don't consider myself to, in any way, be an expert on Hammonds. Alan and I had to pragmatically divide the research and writing tasks, and Hammonds are his great love - so, if there is debate to be had, you'll have to take it up with him. Alan has a journalist background. So, as is his way, in the course of the project, he became close friends with many of the significant Hammond techs in the US and spent many hours fact checking with them. He spent some time interviewing Sal Azzarelli before he died and was able to find safe homes for his valuable collection. Thanks for the link to The Advertiser article. I'd forgotten about that. They must have used a file photo of me because I also don't remember being that young. I assume from your sign-off that you bit the bullet and bought a copy of the book? That long quoted delivery suggests that the company is not actually holding copies and will order it from the relevant distributor now that you've ordered. I do hope that the UK distributor is holding copies and that you'll see it sooner than expected. Regrettably, the fastest way would have been through Amazon US. The book industry is extremely US-centric. While I'd love to see Classic Keys included in Bibliography entries, I think the safest path is for me to back away from Wikipedia and leave things to your judgement once you've assessed the book. I will see emails sent to my business Icarus, and will welcome any correspondence. Thank you for your help. Docrobbie (talk) 05:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Alte Liebe
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Did you know ...

... that Elke Heidenreich, two-time winner of the Grimme television award, wrote the book Nero Corleone featuring a tomcat as the bullying protagonist?

15 February 2020 (her birthday) I brought a cat to the Main page ;) - thinking of yours on the harmonium - a late Valentine --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

... and today a bird: a bird that is normally only heard, acting on stage (well, it was the right balcony, to be precise, for most of the time, until she walked with Siegfried, carrying a little backpack) - the last reminiscence of the impossible made possible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, today I have been listening to File:Ralph Vaughan Williams - English Folk Song Suite.ogg, which I recall trying to play the clarinet part in the school band when i was about 11ish and making a ham-fisted job of it. And unlike my rearrangement of Boléro with electric guitars, Hammond organ, Mellotron and Moog synthesizer, it's out of copyright so I can do a similar take on this and upload it here. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  17:26, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
Plenty of music on my talk, enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:20, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Sandra Pinel


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 * I can't for the life of me remember why I started this; any ideas? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * do you think it was part of an editathon? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Romford Garden Suburb
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Draft/test edit
Are you able to delete Draft:Ploedf, which seems to be vandalism or possibly a test edit? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:38, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. (You certainly have been). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Also is a Walter Brandt really needed with only one entry? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:56, 1 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Nope, I've moved the remaining article over to being the primary, and only, topic. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:34, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


 * 'Ere, Threesie me ol' china.... I 'ad that "extremely courteous" Ugly Patel in the back of me capital punishment cab the uvver night..... String 'em up, I say... it's the only Home Secretary language they understand! -- ChristieCabs123 (talk) 12:24, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Shoes
Here in the tropics we don't often wear shoes. Mainly flipflops and never any footwear in houses or buildings. It's got to the stage that I don't care much now whichever way the cookie crumbles, not that by saying so I want to make their job any easier. When I said anything, I was accused of doubling down. Where I chose to turn off my watchlist for the rest of the vindictive tripe and turned to my piano and drum kit, it was called "no comment = guilty = desysop" by an arbitrator. Take your pick. There is no knowing how equitable the committee can be - or not, either this one or its previous composition, but they do appear to have a predilection for desysoping. is very happy since he turned in his tools, so I guess I'll get along fine without them if I have to, I've handed them in a couple of times already for health related issues, and back in 2014 I took an entire 3 months off Wikipedia and no one noticed - not even the witch hunters. They only notice when you procedurally ask for for the tools back, and then they'll try to crucify you if they can. Sadly, there's a lot of truth in Money Emoji's statement. Now it's back to watching some of this - which I wrote, or this - which I wish I could play or even jazzing around some Bach and Chopin, which I can!. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's absolutely amazing how such a large, relatively new Committee can be taking so long. It wouldn't be so bad, but those who are uninvolved but who try to make it look as if they have an axe to grind, despite the pages being closed, are using the delay to keep piling on, even including the one who has become the major  complainer. What a mess! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how to respond to this. I don't think anyone can deny the huge impact you have made on the project, not least for persuading me that I should give RfA a go in the first place. I did say some of the comments that sparked the Arbcom case off were out of line and not acceptable for an administrator to say; however, I don't think any of them rose to the level of a desysop. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:39, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Underpass Festival
Hi there - attempting to set up a page to act as an archive for the bands who have played Sheffield's Underpass Festival - an annual festival starting this year.

It'll be a very similar page to the existing one for Sheffield's Tramlines fest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramlines_Festival

You took the Underpass page down the other day - is the issue that Underpass Festival needs to have happened before we can have a wiki page?

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23Copley23 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a repository for historic information for researchers to look up. By definition, a festival that hasn't taken place yet is not going to have any coverage, so it's impossible to write a neutral and balanced article on it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:25, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Fakenham
Hi, can you find something for a transport paragraph on this? There is some info in the history but wasn't sourced.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * There is unquestionably a significant amount of detail you could add about the stations; the problem is, as usual, all the good sources are offline. I am absolutely confident that The Directory of Railway Stations: Details Every Public and Private Passenger Station, Halt, Platform and Stopping Place, Past and Present will cite the opening and closing dates of both stations, but I don't have a copy ( does, I believe), and the library's copy is "reference only" so I can never take it out. I think it's high time I actually bought my own copy given how prone I am to citing it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheapest available copy at the mo, fyi  ——  SN  54129  12:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it doesn't look like the sort of book you'd reprint in paperback. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:36, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * But comes with free gift? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:15, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

You never know, you may win it during the Destubathon :-) Thanks. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:26, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Tsk tsk, Blofeld, that's paid editing and will get you teh banhammerz. :-P <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  12:34, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I bet there's a billionaire trainspotter out there somewhere!! Looks better now. I'm strongly tempted to blast St Albans sometime..♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:20, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I've used my copy of Butt to amend both Fakenham East railway station and Fakenham West railway station. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:36, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Redrose, that's very helpful. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:40, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Can you add a bit on transport for Watton, Norfolk to finish off what I did, no more for a while now, I have a contest to run soon!♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I can. In the meantime, I'm having a quick look at Berkshire Maestros (which sounds like a second hand car dealer, if I'm honest) to see if it's salvageable before it goes off to AfD ... again. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:01, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm picturing a car dealer who looks like Eddie Hearn too! Crap name, but it looks just about acceptable to me.♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:16, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Remember to add the articles to the bottom list too, that's the most important thing!♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:13, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah. Had look at Taunton Deane services but I can't think much to write about other than "Taunton Deane is a service area in the middle of nowhere. If you're here, you're probably heading from the Midlands or Bristol to somewhere nicer, but are just busting for a wee, so you had to stop...." anyway, you get the picture. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:26, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Some ten years ago there was a mass AfD for articles on motorway service stations (Taunton Deane was in the list), and was rather miffed as a result. Anyway, most motorway service stations are in the middle of nowhere, for several reasons:
 * land requirement:
 * they need a lot of space since the car parks, fuel retailers, and refreshment franchises all need to be within the site
 * land is cheaper out in the country where compulsory demolition (with attendant compensation) is much less likely
 * they like to have the service areas at fairly even spacing, and the large towns are randomly spaced
 * there's no point putting them near large towns
 * towns usually have all the necessary facilities already, albeit spread out and not one self-contained site
 * with a few exceptions, service stations don't provide access from the motorway to the outside world, so the lack of a nearby town is not a disadvantage
 * Look at the earlier service stations on the M6 - Hilton Park, Keele, Knutsford, Charnock Richard. All named after villages or small towns, all about thirty miles apart. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 00:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Me? Miffed? Never! Just remember, you can get a service station to GA status, been there done that! Jeni  ( talk ) 09:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Greyfriars, Winchelsea
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On yer shelf
You wouldn't happen to have ISBN 978-0-76790-956-3, I suppose...? Have a good weekend :)   ——  SN  54129  12:44, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Fraid not. I can check in the library tomorrow lunchtime if you want? <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  13:13, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Very kind offer, but I've made it far too complicated. I've cited it 24 times (possibly, or possibly not, all from different pages) and now of course I want to attribute page numbers to 'em—so have to look up each index page and find where i've used it. What a palava.It's about £30 used; I got a good deal with the Trynka and Clayson books, less than a tenner for both, inc P&P. So it might be worth laying out for the other...could always give it me dad fer his birthday :D   ——  SN  54129  13:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find the book in the library; also that book about old keyboards hasn't turned up yet. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries, appreciate you looking. You got much on the Stones, early years especially? ——  SN  54129  16:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This?
 * -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:15, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, d'you have that at arms length? ——  SN  54129  05:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No. It's at the other end of the room, next to books about The Doors and the Sex Pistols. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 20:08, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * @Glimmer Twin, would you be able to go to the other end of the room, in your own time and have a look for something...? ...if it's not too late of course :)  ——  SN  54129  20:21, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * @Glimmer Twin, would you be able to go to the other end of the room, in your own time and have a look for something...? ...if it's not too late of course :)  ——  SN  54129  20:21, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Railway stations book
Did you buy that book then?♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Which book? No, I borrowed them out of the library; or yesterday I had a bit of a blitz through stubs using the "reference only" books that were there. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Brendan Kavanagh
Would you take a look at the edits I've made to this article? Primary author is an admin, I was kind of shocked at what they were using for sources and would like a second opinion as I'm not much for music articles. --valereee (talk) 20:13, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I haven't looked at the history, but I think what we've now got as an article is okay. I don't know if everyone will agree he's notable, but there certainly seems to be detailed reliable coverage spaced apart regularly that shows that he is well known for basically doing "stand up" piano performances in odd places. A few more sources like a piece in The Guardian or The Independent would help, but the Irish Independent is a recognisable national broadsheet source. It's had a pretty rigorous DYK review so I think what we've got now will be alright. I recognise the pianos at King's Cross St Pancras tube station immediately and walk past them all the time. PS: My initial response was "I'm not getting involved with that, it sounds like a drama magnet" then realised I was thinking of somebody with a very similar name. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * hahaha, yeah, there's no way I'd go anywhere near that. I removed half the content and probably half the sources for the Kavanagh article. Just felt like it was a pretty big change for something that had gone through DYK. --valereee (talk) 21:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Wincheap
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

A Brucie Bonus for you!

 * What? Not the cuddly toy? Anyway, what did you think of the AfD, Bruno? It was like a whiiiirlwind of consensus to redirect so the history can be preserved to perrrrrfection! And Craig? One word - fab .... u ... lous, darling. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is fantastic. As the great man would say: you're my favourite. YorkshireLad (talk) 16:04, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Holly Butcher
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 * Please pardon but I am confused here? KartikeyaS (talk ) 19:31, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Is it a bug or you really submitted yourself? Anyway, I made a self-revert. Sorry for the trouble. KartikeyaS (talk ) 19:33, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

With my thanks
Hi Richie! I just wanted to publicly thank you and for both your nomination and continued support through the RfA process! You helped out more than you could know. Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , happy to welcome you on board! Now go move some DYK preps to queue lol --valereee (talk) 21:03, 13 March 2020 (UTC)