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Hello R. I wanted to let you know that about this thread Administrators' noticeboard where you are mentioned. I doubt that the editor would ever let you know about it. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 01:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Roland you live in Walthamstow I live in southgate enfield But I'm from annayalla Monaghan Which you keep getting involved in Do you work for Wikipedia od why is it your always editing annyalla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reidzer84 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I am just an ordinary editor. As I have explained to you on your talk page, if you want to add information to the page you need to find a reliable secondary source which confirms what you are adding, and you have to establish that the information is significant enough to be added. In this case, you seem to be adding, without any independent sources at all, information of doubtful significance about yourself, and then suggesting that other editors contact the local museum to confirm this. But this is not how Wikipedia works; it is up to you to add the source, and to show the significance. Unsourced trivia will continue to be removed by other editors. RolandR (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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Amalek 0 through 9
Hi, RolandR. Thought you'd want to know that I made a suggestion to that user on Debresser's talk page. I am cautiously hopeful that it will put a stop to the edit warring. FWIW: Personally, I think his subject is important and needs to be aired. I'm not so sure that Wikipedia is the place to do it. But I do think that at very least if it will happen on Wikipedia, it won't be so disruptive now. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The subject may be important, but not the way Amalek was addressing it. I was concerned that s/he was cherry-picking details from a fringe source, apparently to prove a hostile agenda. RolandR (talk) 16:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, and we'll have to keep an eye on it. But at minimum, this should be happening without disrupting the flow on main articles. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

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Repeated removal by others of my edits of article on Alan Dershowitz
RolandR: I appeal to your obvious much-greater familiarity with the Wikipedia process. I am a complete neophyte.

You offered a comment with regard to an edit I made to Alan Dershowitz' article (involving his opinion about administrative detention being strongly criticized by Fousi El-Asmar). That edit has been now repeatedly completely removed with effectively no reason by another editor. This occurred several times in all, one editor advising me to get consensus (without offering alternative language) and one who claimed a copyright concern (that my investigation of WIkipedia guidelines and policy led me to conclude was not valid).

I have explained my views on the Talk page, and invited the offended editor on his user Talk page to engage this with further explanation or suggested changes, and nothing back yet from anyone.

I am of the firm opinion that my edit regarding Dershowitz is relevant to his status as a public figure who asserts expertise in issues involving Israel, and his intellectual honesty is seriously called into question by El-Asmar's remarks. Having read El-Asmar's personal memoir has led me to conclude that his telling of what he has faced in his life as a Palestinian in Mandatory Palestine/Israel is extremely compelling and credible.

Any advice for a beginning about what is most appropriate to do next? Improvethewiki (talk) 10:27, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have been too busy on other matters to look at this closely. But I suspect that part of the objection is due to the length of your edit, which is disproportionate in this article. I think the incident deserves a significantly shorter mention, with pointers to where further information can be found. As I mentioned earlier, I propose to write a new article about Fouzi, in which this incident probably deserves greater prominence. RolandR (talk) 10:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the feedback. Improvethewiki (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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I just only want to talk about is how why Soviet Communist leader Vladimir Lenin was not the critic of religions, and Soviet Communist Leader Joseph Stalin had the critic of religions? Not so called edit war. Marxistfounder (talk) 16:44, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, can you locate and translate a short paragraph for me from Hebrew to English?--Makeandtoss (talk) 19:03, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Probably. What is it you are looking for? RolandR (talk) 19:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Page 29 Can you copy paste the Hebrew text that says that the Battle of Karameh had no aerial opposition encounetered and its respective translation.--Makeandtoss (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Might be this part "השתתפות חיל האוריר

נהנה מעליונות האווירחיל של צה"ל שדה המערכה אווירית מוחלטת מעל נ"מ ממקלעים ולמעשה להוציא אש"--Makeandtoss (talk) 19:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

השתתפות חיל האוריר חיל האוויר של צה"ל נהנה מעליונות אווירית מוחלטת מעל שדה המערכה למעשה להוציא אש נ"מ ממקלעים, ותותחים מהירי ירי לא( מונחי מכ"ם),שנורתה כעיקר מעל מתחמי שונת-נימרין ומעדי, לא נתקל החיל בכל התנגדו

"Participation of the air force

"The IDF airforce effectively enjoyed total aerial superiority above the battlefield, and with the exception of anti-aircraft fire from sub-machine guns and rapid-fire cannons (not radar guided), which which was fired mainly over that areas of Sunt Nimrin and Ma'adi the airforce met with no opposition".

Was that the bit you needed? RolandR (talk) 20:25, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I think so. The structure is a bit confusing, is it saying that no Jordanian aircrafts participated?Makeandtoss (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I can find no reference at all to the Jordanian airforce. I haven't read the whole document. RolandR (talk) 22:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

"The airforce met with no opposition"= no Jordanian aircrafts?Makeandtoss (talk) 11:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I translated what the source says: with the exception of some small-arms fire, there was no opposition. No anti-aircraft fire, no RPGs, no aerial opposition, nothing. But the author does not specify, he simply states the very limited opposition that there was. I think it is safe to conclude from this that the Jordanian Air Force played no role. RolandR (talk) 11:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Makeandtoss (talk) 11:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

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I had absolutely no idea that mishmash on Gish happened, I'm trying to make that a good article! I must have accidentally triggered a bunch of keys. It was like 2AM where I was.--<small style="font: 13px Courier New">Monochrome _ <small style="font: 13px Courier New">Monitor  14:03, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * I couldn't work out what had happened, or what you were trying to do. But it was clearly unintentional, so I thought the best was to put it back as it was and let you start again. RolandR (talk) 15:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
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Thank you so much for your notification. I was not aware that I wasn't allowed to edit Racism in Israel. However the content I added was correct. In fact although it was slightly adjusted it was basically the same as content which I had added (about condemnation; not about apology- that was indeed mistaken) before the arbitration ruling which you had reverted (I believe wrongly, though you might find my adjusted revision more acceptable.) Please reinstate it. --Naytz (talk) 00:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Your sources mention just two organisations. These do not constitute "several Jewish organisations", which was what your edit claimed. And, in a section about religious racism in Israel, the views of a former Chief Rabbi of Israel are clearly relevant; the views of two diaspora organisations possibly not. RolandR (talk) 12:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Possible 1RR and not Arson. Firstly, you might be in violation of 1RR, and more importantly the fire is not arson. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/11/fire-breaks-out-at-jerusalem-offices-of-human-rights-group-btselem Just take a look at the news reports. I will not revert since I don't want to be in violation of 1RR but I ask you to self-revert. Sir Joseph <sup style="color:green;">(talk) 17:23, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
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I just reverted you, Roland. With all due respect, I think an adherence to the "letter of the law" has kept you from seeing the sentence for what it is -- a trivial statement about an electrical fire at B'Tselem's office building. In truth, it doesn't belong in the article at all, and certainly not in the lead section. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 12:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. But the IP should not have been editing there (and, since the article is now semi-protected, no longer can). And this is clearly a content dispute, not meriting the AE report noted below. RolandR (talk) 12:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello there, I edited a page regarding Old Connaught House last evening, inserting information of a historical nature along with three photographs I took myself. You deleted all my content and claimed that there was a copyright infringement. I would like to ask why and how you have done this? I have done nothing wrong. I would be very grateful if you would contact me directly at micheal@macsuibhne.co.uk Thank you Micheal Mac Suibhne Oldconnaught (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
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I wonder if your research skills can fish out Robert Wistrich's coining of the term '(contemporary) anti-Semitic anti-Zionism' in Hebrew in a talk he gave on 10 December 1984 to the  Study Circle on World Jewry, in the home of the President of  Israel Chaim Herzog, which is now being appropriated as if it were something novel. The translated version is at Robert Wistrich, Anti-zionism as an Expression of Anti-Semitism in Recent Years. That's the earliest example I've found. All we have with the new appropriation of this old word is an attempt to strip it of its complexities and stick it exclusively on 'the left', which is what you would expect of a media hack like Alan Johnson. Pierre Birnbaum in his French works long ago analysed anti-Semitic anti-zionism as a characteristic of the radical French right, like Le Pen. Best wishes Nishidani (talk) 14:28, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The translation is on the site of the Vidal Sassoon International Center for the Study of Antisemitism, which also includes a recording of the lecture. Strangely, however, they do not seem to have a transcript of the original lecture. I have listened to the first five minutes, in which it is explained that Wistrich is still learning Hebrew. My assumption, though this is not stated, is that he actually wrote this lecture in English, and then translated it (possibly with assistance) to Hebrew. The opening of the lecture is not the same as the English translation. I will have to make time to listen to this properly, in order to answer your query; I'll try to do this over the weekend. RolandR (talk) 17:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the bother (in a way), but this opens up a fascinating possibility, that the said phrase might not have been used then (10 Dec 1984) but added later to the Hebrew version. Just the sort of philogical intrigue I love. It's unfortunate that my curiosity about it barges into your time though. Very best, and thanks Nishidani (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstood me. The December 1984 lecture, which I plan to listen to over the weekend, was in Hebrew. The phrase may have been added to the English translation on the site; I will be in a position to let you know after I have listened to it. RolandR (talk) 22:02, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you for the WP:ACDS warning on my talk page which I can only assume was made in good faith, nevertheless, as so many Israel haters are prone to point out, anti-Semitism and hatred of Israel are not necessarily synonymous so please do not conflate the two. In this case, this ruling clearly does not apply, because it is about Sizer's dissemination of anti-Semitic material, and not about the Arab-Israeli conflict. Clivel 0 (talk) 22:23, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't try to teach your grandmother to suck eggs. And the ruling certainly does apply to edits relating to anti-Zionism. RolandR (talk) 00:25, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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I am intrested to know
Is there a point in being Jewish when you are a an Anti-Zionistic communist? I mean, if you were Haredi, I would understand, but you are Marxist-Atheist and you are also seem to oppose "Racist Jews", at least this is the only ethnic group that you mention in your userpage that is racist (And I suppose I am one of them).--Bolter21 (talk to me) 19:52, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That makes as much sense as asking " Is there any point being male when you are pro-feminist?" That is, no sense at all. I am Jewish, that is aan objective statement of fact. And, as an anti-racist, of course I oppose Zionism. I have no idea whether Bolter is either Jewish or a racist, so I cannot comment on his other remarks. RolandR (talk) 23:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There's a difference between being a male and being Jewish. You can deny the fact you are a male but you can't deny the fact that biologically, you are a male. Being Jewish though, is an almost purely subjective thing, you can choose if you are or not a Jew. But since you are Marxist and Atheist, as well as Anti-Zionist, what holds you as a Jew? I am an Israeli, I am a Zionist, I am an Apatheist and I feel solidarity with other Jews everywhere. Since you claim you are not connected to Judaism by religion and you oppse Zionism and you are also a Marxist, I still don't get why still call yourself a Jew and not just a "human being". To me it sounds like a clash of ideologies, it seems you share more ideologies with anti-semitics rather than Jews.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 06:44, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your very intelligent and perceptive comments. I must admit that I have never thought of things that way; you have obliged me to completely rethink my life. Goodbye. RolandR (talk) 11:17, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. (assuming you don't feel like answering)--Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:52, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi RolandR, can you please give your opinion on the censorship issue on Talk:Yisrael Katz (politician born 1955)? 2A02:C7D:3FDE:D400:34AC:583A:B24A:5AF3 (talk) 15:14, 24 April 2016 (UTC)