User talk:See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d

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 * Hello Bilby, I am glad to see your response on my article. Really detailed, timely, informative, and much needed. I am considering redrafting this article while keeping an eye on the raised concerns. I will reach out should I need help. Thank you. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 18:10, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d. As per the request from, do you have any COIs to disclose? Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:58, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, MrsSnoozyTurtle. Yes, I do have some COIs that I think should be disclosed. Nevertheless, I believe they did not impede me from writing this article as impartially as it should. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 12:52, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for clarifying, please see WP:COIEDIT. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I understand, MrsSnoozyTurtle and will consider this in my future submissions. Again, thank you for the heads-up. I'm sorry about any inconveniences I may have caused by not disclosing ahead of time. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 04:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi. In moving forward, just note that you need to fully disclose your employer and the articles that you have been employed to work on. Instructions on how to do that are availabe here. - Bilby (talk) 00:49, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, Bibly. I appreciate your input and will be careful to disclose in future. Just to mention that it was my idea, and I always prefer to go with the truth because I believe it is easier to defend the truth, but whoever I consulted was vehemently against, and I thought it was not the best position to take. Nevertheless, I had informed them that it's the best practice and that in one way or the other, I'd disclose. On this, I will be sure to do just what I know policies say rather relying on someone's views. Thank you, again. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Amsterdam Stories USA for deletion
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Comma copy-edit
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 * Oops! I'm sorry if I went against any guidelines. Thank you for the heads up, I'll be careful. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 06:24, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

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AfC notification: Draft:Quark Baby has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Quark Baby. Thanks! -- NotC hariza rd 🗨 07:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the comment, @Notcharizard. I'm looking into this right away. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 07:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Quark Baby (August 28)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Quark Baby (August 31)
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Cabrils (talk) 00:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Rob Rombout moved to draftspace
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CS1 error on Leah Marangu
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 * A "bare URL and missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. ([//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leah_Marangu&action=edit&minor=minor&summary=Fixing+reference+error+raised+by+%5B%5BUser%3AQwerfjkl%20(bot)%7CQwerfjkl%20(bot)%5D%5D Fix] | [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&preload=User:Qwerfjkl%20(bot)/helpform&preloadtitle=Referencing%20errors%20on%20%5B%5BSpecial%3ADiff%2F1174557964%7CLeah%20Marangu%5D%5D Ask for help])

Your submission at Articles for creation: Quark Baby (September 12)
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Cabrils (talk) 23:17, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Rob Rombout (November 5)
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Concern regarding Draft:Quark Baby
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NRG radio moved to draftspace
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Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. CycloneYoris talk! 20:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello, thanks for letting me know. I published it by mistake. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 03:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in Ngong Hills
Category:Wikipedians in Ngong Hills has been nominated for merging. Please see Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_5. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Noted. Will check. Thank you. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 11:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024
Hello, I'm Waxworker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Bird Paradise, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Waxworker (talk) 12:46, 6 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm working on it right now. Will be redoing and adding citations as fit. I'm sorry for the confusion I caused. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 12:56, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: I effectively made the needed changes by providing adequate citation to my contribution(s).See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 10:48, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

WikiProjects
Wikiproject categories, such as, go on the talk page, not on the article. Bearcat (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hi See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d. Thank you for your work on Magistrates' Court (Kenya). Another editor, SafariScribe, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 14:40, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

May 2024
Hello See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to KETOS, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 04:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the detailed message. I have always disclosed my COIs. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 05:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Would you mind clarifying whether you promote your paid editing services outside of Wikipedia? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 05:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I do not offer "paid editing services" and as such, I do not promote the same. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 05:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see a disclosure on your User page which is required by Paid-contribution disclosure. Please read this section over. Liz Read! Talk! 06:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello, @Liz. Thanks for your input. Please check again and advise. It's the first thing on this talk page. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 06:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d, in that case, may I know how you are being hired or paid? Or are you not being paid at all? GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 08:04, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * "Hired";"paid"? That's not the best way I'd describe this. I connect with subjects or representatives of subjects when I reach out to them via any available means to solicit for information that may lead to the best encyclopedic coverage of the topic. In any case, my aim is not to be paid but in the process, most people feel the need to even just make a compensation for resources spent. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 08:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. It is apparant that you have been doing work through Upwork or related sites. What GSS is refering to is any site where you advertise your services, which includes your profile where you would offer your services at sites such as Upwork, Freelancer and Fivver. The details of the policy are at: Disclosing external accounts on Wikipedia. - Bilby (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * When it's Bilby, I am not surprised. Bilby has never had anything positive to say about my contributions. Always reverting, and undoing, and tagging, and deleting, and accusing, and the list goes on... See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 02:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If you do get work through any of these sites, you need to disclose each and every client on your userpage separately using the paid template and must not create articles directly in the main namespace. Additionally, in such cases you are required to provide a link to your profile(s) where you advertise paid editing services. <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 14:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It's interesting the way you guys discuss and your general modus operandi. Why is it that you try your best to sway the discussion towards your side even when you think it'd be best to consider all possibilities? Why would you say "If you do get work through any...you need to...", well, and what if I do not?
 * Or make me understand, do you guys just assume bad faith by defailt? See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 02:39, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * GSS, I do not understand why you've chosen to dratify my work while tagging it a violation of WP:PAID. I must mention like I did before that I have always disclosed my COIs. Can you please tell me which clause of WP:PAID I violated given that I had (as required) disclosed my COIs on the article's mainpage, it's talk page, and listed the same in my talk page. I have technically followed all the requirements of the very guidelines you're saying I violated. Please explain to me why this is happening. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 10:41, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

<div class="user-block uw-upeblock" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px"> Your account has been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, please read our guide to appealing blocks to understand more about unblock requests, and then add the text  at the end of your user talk page. For that request to be considered, you must: Have reviewed the case. Long term promotional editing and refusal to disclose who is paying them and what group they are a part of despite this being clearly explained this is required. Extensive copyright violations on Commons related to that promotion. Despite multiple warnings this has continued.
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 * Impressive, Yamla. Very very impressive. See-N-e-v-e-r-M-i-n-d (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:RSP Architects Planners & Engineers has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:RSP Architects Planners & Engineers. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 07:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:RSP Architects Planners & Engineers


A tag has been placed on Draft:RSP Architects Planners & Engineers requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

"G11, two paid editors, both fired, company editor blocked as meat. This is a blatant advert."

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