User talk:Sj/Arc7

2009 highlights.

OLPC article in Wikipedia
+sj+, you wrote: > Have you looked at the XO map recently? It's been getting a lot of attention! > I'm hoping to update the OLPC article and get it to FA status; would appreciate your help. +sj + 20:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC) As I'm only an occasional wikipedian, I only found today your message.

Was any progress made in getting the OLPC article to FA status? I guess a first step would be to get it to GA status ? I would be happy to help you progressing this.

I think I've made a big part of the edits of sections Technology, Distribution and Deployment during 2008, although often not being logged in, from a structure and content point of view. I'm a real beginner as far as the MoS, GA status and FA status are concerned: in fact I'm discovering these concepts just today, but I'm interested to learn. I've been working as Quality Manager in an IT consulting firm for some time, so I think I have (some of) the required competencies for the job. However, I'm not a native English speaker/writer, so a final review would surely be welcome :-).

Just leave me a message to let me know where you suggest to start. Luc Bollen (talk) 20:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Years
Deilvered by §hepBot  ( Disable )  at 01:33, 11 January 2009 (UTC) on request of Wrad

Greetings from an old Dudley Friend, Justin White
Sammy --

It has been a long time! Shoot me back an email to let me know you're all right. I have been out of communication with most people in my life but have begun to reconnect. The world will be oodles better for it!

Justin White (THE:DANE) justinwhite2000 gmail
 * Sure enough. Let's stay in touch! -- are you coming back to Cambridge this June??  +sj + 23:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikivoices and you
Unbeknownst to you, you've been co-opted into a 'Wikivoices' 'vodcast'! - we've been running podcasts for about a year, and I'm now interested in dipping my toe into the whole 'vodcasting' thing - you no doubt recall giving this interview last year, and I've been in touch with the creator who's happy to release it CC licensed, and I thought it would be a great fit for a bit of an experiment into 'vodcasting' here on the wiki!

We crossed paths briefly when I sought to have a chat with you around the board elections, and it's partly because you seem to be such a wiki-involved, and wonderful kind of chap that I'm afriad I didn't swing by for permission ahead of time here (still, easier to ask forgiveness than permission, right?) - I think the interview is fantastic, and you communicated some really important points clearly and succinctly - so thanks for giving it, and huge thanks in advance for forming part of the first-ever-in-the-whole-world on-wiki vodcast!

If you're up for an audio conversation at some point before too long, it'd be great to have you on the 'show' too :-) cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 05:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * ps. it's on the Community portal too :-) Privatemusings (talk) 05:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

What's notable in the future?
As a member of the WikiProject Years, could you please contribute to this discussion? Thank you. ––bender235 (talk) 18:29, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
 * the future is just the past with a different POV. the same question applies to years past. +sj  +  00:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Account creation tool
I've just applied to use the account creation tool. +sj +  00:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've approved your account so you should be able to access the tool. Please review WP:ACC/G before acting on any requests and feel free to ask questions on my talk page or in . - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

OCL
We had a long discussion about codgering at RCC this year! I was advocating for the return of OCL. You read my mind! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 01:01, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

outline-of-knowledge
WikiProject_Outline_of_knowledge -- phoebe / (talk to me) 22:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

This category does not look very reader-friendly. Please consider splitting off a subcategory with draft outlines. In this way, the category screen, showing only the article space outlines, will become uncluttered, while the drafts will be on a lower level. They will be moved "up" as they are released to article space. --Zlerman (talk) 03:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No need. We'll be moving all those outlines to article space starting immediately.  It's time to shake things up and shift this project into hyperdrive.  The Transhumanist  19:46, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with this. I also wonder if starting the outlines project with countries is the most helpful thing -- since country pages are already quite well outlined (you're moving from a level-3 outline to a level-2 outline, perhaps; but most topic articles are only a level-5 outline of the subject, where the benefits of a higher-order outline are more immediately obvious).  I know you've been doing this for many moons, so are not about to change, but I'd like to see more effort go into pages like the outlines of science... +sj + 23:50, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I've moved the outlines to article space.


 * Here's a convenient list you can use WP:LINKY on to access and edit these quickly. Please copy the list's link to the top of your talk page so that you can access it easily.

There has been growing pressure on me to write up the administrative pages for outlines - their instructions, guidelines, etc. Therefore, I'm now in the process of composing these. Fortunately, it is mostly a matter of gathering material from messages I've written to you guys over the past year. Still, this is taking up most of my time, and I will be buried in these for the foreseeable future.

The next big task after the government branches sections are cleaned up is link support for the outlines.

You mentioned that "You can manage renames quite effectively with a script, and have it take minutes, not hours". Please teach me how to do this (please post such help to my talk page). I would love to take a look at scripts that do this. Can you point them out or email them to me?

Thank you. The Transhumanist 22:52, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

P.S.: There are several people I know of besides me who would be very interested in how to do this. I've CC'd this message to them (Juliancolton, thehelpfulone, Robert Skyhawk, and NuclearWarfare). I will pass along to them any know-how you provide. You have yourself an audience. :) -TT


 * You...can...rename...pages...with a script? NuclearWarfare dies of shock. Please tell me how, oh wise one :) NuclearWarfare  ( Talk ) 23:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It might be listed at WikiProject User scripts/Scripts, but I didn't find anything at a quick glance. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I should mention the python script of pywikipedia - movepages.py. This will probably be script that can be used so long as you have installed python and pywikipedia, although it will require a bot task, if it can reach such speeds as it can run automatically. Sorry I didn't mention this earlier ;) The  Helpful  One  18:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was thinking of using a pywikipediabot. There's also maintenance/moveBatch.php which can act on a textfile containing pairs of article titles... which is itself not to hard to scriptably update with a search-and-replace. +sj  +  05:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Further discussion archived at User talk:Sj/OOK.

Adoptee
Hi, it was suggested to me that I explore the adoptees program and I think your interests fit with my current project. Just wanted to introduce myself to start and see if you are still available for help. Ward.Allen (talk) 22:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Sj, I have initiated the change thanks to you. Once it's done I look forward to having a little more fun with things but I was hoping you could help me with my ongoing problem in the meantime. I am trying add a reference to the wiki I have created. It is an employee newsletter from a hospital network released by their public relations. There is no copyright on it. Even in the absence of copyright, I phoned them and got full permission for use here. This document is a .pdf. I uploaded the pdf but when I click on it it doesnt work.....it almost like adobe reader cant recognize it or it cant access the whole file......what can I do? Ward.Allen (talk) 17:57, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

WWE guy
Hey SJ - the WWE guy is at it again. Before it get's CSD'd do you want to move this to his userpage... seems sad for his first three articles all to be shot down. JCutter (talk) 23:34, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Nozio
Hi SJ, you removed the CSD tag from Nozio... the person who originally put the CSD tag on the article has restored it (and nomed it for deletion.) I personally am not seeing the reason not to speedy the article. Could you comment on the articles talk page? Generally I am opposed to restoring CSD tags once they have been removed.--- I'm Spartacus!  NO! I'm Spartacus! 23:54, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Giambiopia
Excuse me, could you please reinstate Giambiopia. It is not offensive in anyway and is a nowhere near an attempt at vandalism. What does bjaodlin style mean? WendyGoatsGruff33 (talk) 16:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree with the previous statement regarding Giambipia. There is no way that this would constitute vandalism while you allow pages for White Power and blatant racism.Muffintops69 (talk) 17:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

for you.
.... Happy Passover! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 05:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:nah
I'm confused. When you say "conversions"... that's in regard of... what? :)--Fluence (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Mmm... was that about the tabs and interface stuff? If it was, I worked that out on the Betawiki translator. Really easy and practical. The mainspaces tabs were modified by Siebrand I think. For example, "Category" was successfully changed to "Neneneuhcāyōtl", so now writing ":Neneuhcāyōtl:Something" is understood immediatly as a category. But that's basically all I went to ask. So, Betawiki (I think now it's called TranslateWiki) was source for all :)--Fluence (talk) 21:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Deleteing the page for hoop angelz
Dear Sj, Hoop Angelz is a website exactly like Club Penguin,but it is not completed yet. Latrobe 12 Excitement (mine at least) is building as we approach the Super Huge Expansion, during which notices will be placed on thousands of subject talk pages and their corresponding WikiProjects (see below concerning which ones). Though not all on the same day! - this will take place over a period of weeks or months, because it's best not to open the flood gates all at once.

User:Sj/Survey
I was wondering if you ever published any results? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * We never promoted that variation of survey. The questions were used as background for future surveys, however. I don't recall that a single full survey was submitted save by the people working on the questions... +sj +  02:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Attalus I at FAR
nominated Attalus I for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Cirt (talk) 07:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Boston event
It depends on the date. I'm not in Boston right now and won't be back until this Monday at the earliest. But I would very much like that since it looks like I am going to be unable to attend the New York conference. JoshuaZ (talk) 05:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Confirm that I'll be in Boston this Monday. So any date after that will work for me. JoshuaZ (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Coworking space in Boston!
Hello Sj,

I recently came across the Boston Coworking forum and noticed your interest in coworking space. I am the Marketing/Office Manager at WorkBar, a coworking office in Boston. I wanted to contact you and let you know about WorkBar and let you know that not only do we have plenty of space available but that we are also looking to work with local Boston meetups and organizations who may be looking for a place to host events. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. Feel free to email me at evona@workbarboston.com and also, refer to our website: http://workbarboston.com/

Best,

Evona
 * Awesome, thanks Evona! I'm definitely interested and will get in touch.  There are a lot of hackspaces opening up, which is excellent; now if only we can bring another few dozen cafes into the city and put a bit of effort into our parks and green spaces, it will be a much more pleasant place to meet and work.  +sj +

Newton articles
Hallo SJ,

I was just now looking at some of the WP articles on Isaac Newton. It seems that, way back in 2004, they were in some way split up, very likely with some plan in mind. Your name looks as if it was attached to the initial set-up of those split parts.

Revisions have developed over the years, and in a way that doesn't necessarily relate very much to whatever any initial plan was. While in WP that's not a controlling consideration I guess, it would be interesting to have your reminiscence -- if you care to say anything about it -- and to know what your thoughts were or are, for a sensible development of this subject-matter.

I'm not sure at this stage how much I can do or when: I've put a bit into a few related articles. There clearly are several things in the I.N. pages that could usefully be updated (or even cry out for updates), and the tags in the articles themselves say that much.

Anyhow, any views of yours would be of interest here.

Regards, Terry


 * Hiya Terry, there were both short and long forms of the article way back when. The detailed bio was split into a set of specific topical articles and merged with Isaac Newton (combining the section struvture and adding for details see links at the top of relevant sections). +sj +
 * The simple plan was to provide space for Newton biographers to add extensive detail without making the overview biography too elaborate. Don't be shy about rearranging the smaller articles, or recombining them to better effect.  +sj +  13:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hiya SJ, thanks for the info -- noted. Terry0051 (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

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Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You are a sweetheart; I really appreciate it, Rlevse. Thank you.  +sj +

Wiki-Conference New York panel
We have moved your "Barnraisings and cross-wiki collaborations" panel from slot B-3 on Sunday to slot B-2 on Saturday, to avoid a scheduling conflict. Thanks!--Pharos (talk) 17:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, it would also be good if you folks could make some preparations among yourselves about how best to work together on the panel. I'll be sending you all an e-mail on this soon.--Pharos (talk) 17:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

not getting emails
Hi Sj,

I'm not receiving emails from you, but I noticed in my(?) userpage comments you said you'd sent me a message - was that an email? Or did you message me somewhere here? Apologies for being on the low end of the wiki learning curve right now. Thanks for your help and support,

--Nina (Nina Paley (talk • contribs) 14:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC))
 * Hi, I sent an email - let me see if it came back. Better to use your userpage, however, so the discussion is on-wiki for others to jump in - I responded further there.  +sj +  14:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Courtesy of Rich Farmbrough, here's a list of editors by their edit counts over the previous month (8th June to 8th July).


 * It would be nice to get the most prolific Wikipedians involved with WP:WPOOK. If you can, find a good reason to contact one or more of them, and invite them to work on a relevant outline - or all 500!

Facilitated community discussions
Thanks for your kind feedback. Would you be interested in starting a new Wikiproject with me? I'm thinking of calling it Community council and its mission would be to start writing the issue pages as I've described them. The council would be open to all, and have a fairly strict code of conduct on how the pages were to be written. Along with writing the issue pages would be the explicit goals of creating order out of chaos by using a creative problem solving approach; focusing discussion; encouraging collaboration; and reducing noise. Hopefully the council would become the main focus of attention for dealing with difficult issues. The work of the council would not be to discuss and decide issues, but rather to document and organize what has already been done. Project members would help organize and write issue pages with links to discussions, essays, etc... that have already taken place. It would document and collect the work of the community. The project would also link the appropriate issue page to any relevant discussion about the issue, whether it be on the talk page of an article, a policy, a guideline, or a user. Gradually, the Community Council could expand more into facilitation. As I've envisioned facilitation, it will only work if the issue pages are created and the community focuses their attention on an issue to one centralized place. Since Wikipedia only changes in small incremental improvements, the first step is to start creating the issue pages. Does this sound like something you would be interested in working on with me? Let me know. Thanks. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 07:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Your point about finding the right name is right on the money. While I'm just not sure of the perfect name, I'll stay away from anything that would imply decision-making authority.  So I'm ok with  Community Facilitation, and it should be very clear that it is a wikiproject, open to all, with no decision-making power.  Along with creating that page for organizing the project, there should be Community Issues, which would be a centralized directory of issue pages, each issue having its own subpage.  Talk pages should be organized the same way as article talk pages, so the discussions on the issue's talk page should be ONLY about the writing of the issue page, and not about discussing the issue itself.  The issue page can link to discussions elsewhere and summarize them in a NPOV way. If  community members knows how to write an article, they'll know how to write an issue page.  The first order of business for the wikiproject should be writing the issue pages, and as that work progresses, there can be discussion on the best ways to help facilitate the community decision making process.


 * I'm going to move my user page proposal to Community Facilitation, adapt it into a wikiproject, and also move this discussion to Wikipedia talk:Community Facilitation. If the links are blue, join me there to continue this conversation. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 20:49, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

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We're working on something special...
...to award Buaidh for all his hard work.

It's at User:Penubag/Sandbox3.

But it's not done yet. Feel free to help improve it.

I'm hoping that everyone involved with the WP:WPOOK will sign it (please sign without a timestamp).

Thank you.

The Transhumanist 23:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up!
It is nice to know that I'm not alone. I'm going to post something about the project that is a bit more public soon, but first I'd like to feel assured that the project won't be misinterpreted. It is hard to avoid controversy these days. If you can, please look over the project page and make whatever improvements you can think of. If we can attract a small percentage of the people who like to complain about the way things are we will be a mighty force. Thanks. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 02:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You are not! I left notes on some related threads -- though when you're taken with a new idea, everything seems related, hein? -- on wiki-en, WP:PEREN, and the discussion about a 'development council' (an idea that really just wants people to start talking about WP:Issues and avoiding getting derailed). We need a few more people to sign up, and then you might want to post about this to a few central discussion forums.  +sj +  14:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

who can vote?
I get a “Sorry, you are not in the predetermined list of users authorised to vote in this election.” message. —jacobolus (t) 12:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. Apparently I have to go to special:securepoll from en.wikipedia rather than from meta. —jacobolus (t) 12:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Facilitated discussion
Transhumanist, you are among other things talented at facilitating discussions in an unusual way -- through your energy and enthusiasm :-)  I'd appreciate your input on the Community facilitation project, which among other things aims to maintain a set of long-term discussion pages at WP:Issues.

Regards, +sj + 15:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Seems redundant to the Village pump.


 * Unfortunately, User:Dbachmann is waging a war against outlines. He failed at merging them, so now he's lobbying to move them to portal space, but he's using all manner of tactics.  False accusations, posting arguments directly on guideline pages, etc.  He strikes in a flurry of activity every month or so.


 * I'm going to be preoccupied for the foreseeable future with this conflict.


 * I'm sorry I can't be of help.


 * The Transhumanist 21:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * P.S.: For an example of how this guy twists things, see User talk:Dbachmann.

OOK collaboration: Outline of knowledge (eom)
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 * (I do not have much to say here... it simply needed solid mediation. –SJ +  )

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Congrats
Congrats, SJ! I think you'll do a bang-up job on the board. Raul654 (talk) 15:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations. I would issue congratulations in person but I'm not going to be able to make the meetup tomorrow. JoshuaZ (talk) 02:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

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Adopt-a-User
I noticed that you're still listed in the Adopters area. With your new responsibilities, are you still available?

I'm RoyGoldsmith and I met you at the Wiki-Conference in July. I'm a fairly new editor, only active since March. Being a newbie myself, I possibly overcompensate by being extremely forgiving to other newcomers.

By and large I get around Wikipedia OK. But I have an occassional question, mostly on either navagation in the wiki itself or my wanting advice on how to handle a specific situation.

So, do you have time to adopt a new user? --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 11:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of 0 A.D. (game)


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Talk:List of digital library projects‎
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Speedy deletion nomination of Rodovid
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hey SJ
it was nice meeting you tonight. you said this was the best way to contact you :) hope to talk to you again soon. -- julia 140.247.43.112 (talk) 02:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It's a very reliable way to contact me -- but if you don't have an account here or leave a way to reach you, it can be tricky to reply! <goes to look for a supplementary email>  +sj +  22:28, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Raptor Education Group
Nice work! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 06:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If only we had as many bot-enabled people working through WP:Cleanup as we do people speedying pages...  +sj +  07:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkpage reversions and ANI discussoin
Hello, Mr. Blue Eyes.

Why do you revert my discussion page?

 Relly Komaruzaman   Talk   11:59, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Relly! See below.

May I please inquire as to your rationale for having reverted a recent edit to my Talk page, in an apparent attempt to prevent people (me?) from seeing the message another user had posted there? I would prefer to hear your explanation for such a seemingly odd action on your part, before I came to my conclusions about it. Thank you. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 12:05, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking, Kevin. A single-purpose IP started contributing to an ANI discussion about a revert war on the Wikivoices main page.  It was not about our Wikivoices interview at all, but the IP spammed all of our talk pages apparently to confuse that discussion.  Once I figured out that the ANI discussion was not in fact related to that event, I reverted the talkpage spam so that you wouldn't all waste the same effort.
 * If you want to discuss the Wikivoices episode (which I am also quite miffed isn't public yet) the right place to do so is at Wikipedia talk:Wikivoices. Cheers, +sj +  22:13, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, the user who was editing via that IP address takes exception to your claims, as evidenced at its talk page. I'd be interested to read more about your side of the issue once you review that page.--otherlleft 17:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

CF&I
Hi Sj,

I was out of town for a while and otherwise busy, so I haven't been doing much. I hate working on things by myself, so I'm happy to see you get involved. I think the next step is to take one issue and really develop it to the point that it becomes a demonstration of what we have in mind. By doing so we will:
 * Create an example that makes the value of an issue page self evident to anyone who reads it.
 * Work out a format for future issue pages.
 * Find out what it takes to engage people involved in the issue to contribute to an issue page.
 * Incorporate what we learn into the guidelines at WP:CF

Do you have an idea for a good perennial issue to start with? Should it be huge, like "Notability" or something small? Who do you think we can get to help us?

Once we have a good example issue developed, I think we should publicize this broadly. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman 08:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think we're on the same page. I'm happy to jump into any issue and help link, write, edit, refactor, etc...  I haven't been very active recently, so I don't have an idea of an issue to pick.  I'll trust your choice in this.  Let me know and I'll be there. -- &#x2611; Sam uelWantman  09:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

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issues
boy do I have them. Two columns make my head hurt; surely there's bluelinks somewhere for some of those redlinks? And it's not totally clear to me what the focus of that page is.. maybe more of a community portal style would be helpful? -- phoebe / (talk to me) 07:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll think about good presentation styles. My instinct is to group by topic :) but there's not so many issues right now. I'm less worried about the difference between blue & redlinks. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 16:30, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

ref breakage
in case you don't read the 'post comments as closely as I do :) interesting sidenote that the 'new' system of references dragonsflight made possible in cite.php (putting ref content in )is breaking bing's rendering script for articles. As a content reuser you might doublecheck to see if it works with your scripts; I'd be curious. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 16:30, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr. Klein
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one navbox per article?
I love that this proposal argues that it's data-driven.

AfD nomination of Oscar van Dillen
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order-of-magnitude pictures
That sounds great! This is a project that's been put off indefinitely due to other things happening (the wonderful thing about Wikipedia is that someone else picked up my work and improved it anyways), but I'd love to come to the next meetup (I even live near Davis.). Paul Stansifer 23:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

what a pickle
I know a thing or two about pickles... also olives. Meshariffic. Much like the WP:Department directory and editor's index... let's talk making meta useful soon. I want to reply to ongoing discussion w/ something constructive. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 19:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

and nice redesign. Did you know that your background image comes up as the tooltip when using WP:POPUPS? An interesting quirk. -- 19:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I am looking for a a "mathematics and physics zealot" oriented Mentor
I am looking for a mentor who is analytic and science oriented, who likes articles with an outline format, with numbers and bullet points to find information for use as a REFERENCE encyclopedia, NOT one who likes expository writing styles written for enjoyment or to be easy to read from start to finsh. HkFnsNGA (talk) 19:21, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Contributions
Dear Samuel:

Happy New Year! Sadly, I've been aware that you have concerns about many of my contributions, simply tagging them "disputable" on the argument that there are no "online sources". I appreciate also your concern to keep Wikipedia for its true purpose, which is most relieving. Anyway, I should explain to you the reasons why so little or anything is found on internet on some of the subjects.

My name is Corrado Trione, and I work for the University of Bologna in Italy. Since 1999 I've been, with a team of 2, trying to save some of Italy's oldest genealogical lines, mainly from Piedmont, and this has been no "online" work, as it might seem in these days, but a matter of going to the parishes and "excavating information". The process has been slow, but gratifying. I'm a member of Italy's Heraldry Association, and my projects have been sponsored by two universities in Italy, one in Turin, where I live. AcademieIT (talk) 18:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Based on this, I can only tell you that such tag of "unreliability" is doing a very great deal of damage to the families that were object of my serious research, and I rather ask you to remove them at once, for the best of everyone. I am very concerned about it because I quoted from books accesible to Wikipedia readers (never obscure books), but your charges, as were once against Socrates, are because "no many pages in the internet say anything about them". I ask you to review this as it is now concerning me.

Regards and all my best,

AcademieIT (talk) 18:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)AcademieIT
 * Replied on your talk page. +sj +


 * Thanks Sj! Replied you there too. Now that you are back, I appreciate your concerns and writing. About the problems on the contributions, an editor from the nobility workfield here also raised questions, but I explained him some of what I wrote (citing my online sources) and he had suggested then to remove the conflicting names to avoid further controversy and rewrite the article for cohesion, as it is clear, as you stated, that despite there's little or none online information you can Google with one click, doesn't mean that there aren't enough records on private databases or that the family doesn't exist, or that it is a hoax of mine. Some misleading info led to the creation of an article I regret now, as it won't happen again. I will even merge 2 articles, as it is clear is the same family we are talking about. The names on the page I blanked will be removed from the article as accorded by suggestion of the Wikipedia nobility editor. Only the main names will remain, the ones related to the main trunk and spouses only in the first part (to avoid further conflict). About A. Habsburg-Lothringen, as strangely there's no record of her online (despite she's actually buried in Italy), the editor suggested to remove her titles, and leave only the name. Will keep in touch. Also, if you have any other suggestions, will be glad to read them at User talk:AcademieIT :) AcademieIT (talk) 04:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Articles corrected and information disputable has been deleted, according to suggestions. Further comments can be made in the User talk:AcademieIT. AcademieIT (talk) 21:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)