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Photograph
Hey Sprucegrouse. I noticed you uploaded File:The Hon. Robert Victor Evan Wong.jpg as your own work. Can I ask you how do you own the right to this photograph? Did you take it in 1935?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:12, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

It's an image of a family photograph, which I inherited. There's another picture of RV in one of the news articles I cite, at the http://www.stabroeknews.com/2008/guyana-review/11/06/glimpses-of-guyanese-history/, but I looked at the rules, which seem to encourage uploading of your own works. For the text, I've relied on published sources, but I thought new additions to the WIkimedia Commons were encouraged.

Hello? Is the photo being rejected, or is it still under review? Are you worried that it's not really mine to post? (10/27/2015 11:49PM)Sprucegrouse (talk) 03:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Robert Victor Evan Wong has been accepted
 Robert Victor Evan Wong, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! MatthewVanitas (talk) 11:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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Nice to meet you at WikiWednesday
It was nice to meet you at WikiWednesday. I will check out your article. Feel free to reach out with any concerns. -- Aliceba (talk) 16:39, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Nice to meet you, too! See above re the problems I'm having getting an uploaded photo accepted. Any suggestions? I will follow your advice re the Guyanese Chinese page, and make revisions one at a time, and contact people who've based revisions on weak sources containing misinformation before deleting anything. I think the best approach is to put the better-sourced information up first. Sprucegrouse (talk) 03:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Never mind. Photo has been accepted, and is now up on the page! Sprucegrouse (talk) 03:27, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Great! ~We've added your article to the Afrocrowd articles created list. Feel free to add any other articles you create regarding Guiana there too. -Aliceba (talk) 16:03, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Turns out that [|many others are reverting changes] by the person with the inappropriate obsession. Glad to see the system works.Sprucegrouse (talk) 12:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

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Reverting vandalism?
I fail to see how blanking huge sections of content falls under "reverting vandalism" I also restored your blanking of large sections of sourced content claiming that the content was "irrelevant and scurrilous". Can you please explain why you feel that way on Talk:Interracial marriage? - Takeaway (talk) 17:34, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The text I deleted were copied and pasted multiple times to multiple pages by a user who seems to have an unhealthy interest in race-mixing involving Asians. You are right that I should have given a fuller explanation of the reasons for my deletions. That user has been identified [|identified by many other editors] as a bad actor, and reversion of his edits has been requested.  Please explain why you think text like the following is appropriate to an encyclopedia article on Eurasian (mixed ancestry), or revert your reversion.


 * "Peru and Cuba some Indian (Native American), mulatto, black, and white women engaged in carnal relations or marriages with Chinese men, with marriages of mulatto, black, and white woman being reported by the Cuba Commission Report and in Peru it was reported by the New York Times that Peruvian black and Indian (Native) women married Chinese men to their own advantage and to the disadvantage of the men since they dominated and "subjugated" the Chinese men despite the fact that the labor contract was annulled by the marriage, reversing the roles in marriage with the Peruvian woman holding marital power, ruling the family and making the Chinese men slavish, docile, "servile", "submissive" and "feminine" and commanding them around, reporting that "Now and then...he [the Chinese man] becomes enamored of the charms of some sombre-hued chola (Native Indian and mestiza woman) or samba (mixed black woman), and is converted and joins the Church, so that may enter the bonds of wedlock with the dusky señorita." Sprucegrouse (talk) 19:17, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Takeaway: Please also these comments from other editors on the same Gass Gess material posted under Miscegenation, a substantially identical article. See also comments on the [|Gass Gess talk page], where an administrator threatened to block him[?} if he posted any more of the same, He hasn't since, but this was an attempt to revert changes he posted during a short period in July.
 * If I deleted more than necessary, please let me know.Sprucegrouse (talk)


 * I'm a bit busy at the moment and can'really look into this matter for a few days. I hope that it can be put on hold for the time being? It would seem to me that the contributor is (hopefully loosely) quoting the sources used for the above section that you copied. If the wording is objectionable, perhaps a rewrite would be more appropriate than a complete removal of the content? - Takeaway (talk) 13:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I'm happy to leave this page alone for a week, but in the meantime, I'd ask you to respect the "truce" and not revert the parallel reversions I made to Gass Gess's "contributions" to the Miscegenation and Jamaican Chinese articles. Once you start reading the "content" in question closely and in the context of the articles as a whole, I'm sure you'll agree that no re-write is really possible.

A better description of the Gass Gess problem is Coat-racking, as pointed out by Vixdino on the Gass Gess talk page. As noted on that page, he (or, I suppose, she) tends to coat-rack wholesale material about prostitutes from Asian countries, or more generally references to sexual relations with persons of Asian descent, anywhere and everywhere. When you have time, please identify the particular Gass Gess contributions that you consider interesting, valuable and relevant to the subject matter of the article, and encyclopedic in nature.Sprucegrouse (talk) 20:57, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

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Needed for the Steven J Gould. best Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 12:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought I included an auto-reference to the original hard cover edition of The Panda's Thumb: 978-0393013801

The full citation should wind up reading: 1941-2002., Gould, Stephen Jay, (1980-01-01). The Panda's Thumb : More Reflections in Natural History. Norton. pp. 167–68. ISBN 9780393013801. OCLC 781219337.

Sorry if my Wiki skills weren't up to posting that correctly. If you don't have a copy of the book handy to check my citation, you should be able to see it in full text on Google Books here, where it allows to expand out from snippet view.

https://books.google.com/books?id=z0XY7Rg_lOwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Panda's+Thumb&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi3pKvT2aPRAhWGLyYKHRXdAsQQ6AEIIzAB#v=onepage&q=Down&f=false

The point citation is to page 167-168, where Gould writes in 1980 that the term "Mongoloid" is still in common use in the United States and, after some equivocation, coming down in favor of replacing the term with "Down's Syndrome". The text you restored says the older terminology was abandoned in the early 1970's, and I believe this citation forms a valid basis for my revision, which I urge you to restore.

Kindly also restore the references to Dr. Cookshank. The text you restored does what I consider to be a serious disservice to Dr. Down, by attributing to Down the racism that was only injected into Down's terminology 70 years later by Dr. Crookshank. Happy New Year. Sprucegrouse (talk) 14:53, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Sep 28: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election/Members Meeting (+October 2 picnic)
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Sun Oct 2: WikiNYC Post-Election Wiki-Picnic
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Sat Oct 29: Wikidata Day in NYC
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Sat Nov 12: WikiConference North America in NYC
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Nov 30: WikiWednesday Salon in Brooklyn + online
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Dec 28: WikiWed Salon (+ Wikipedia Day on Jan 15)
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Sun Jan 15: Wikipedia Day returns to NYC!
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Feb 15: WikiWednesday Salon in Brooklyn
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Mar 8: WikiWednesday Salon by Grand Central
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Apr 12 WikiWednesday + Earth Week (Apr 15-23)
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Sat: Earth Day Edit-a-thon + Sun: Wiki-Picnic
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May 17: WikiWednesday Salon + Queering Wikipedia
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June 21: WikiWednesday Salon back in Manhattan!
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July 19 WikiWednesday + New York Botanical Garden Edit-a-thon (July 29)
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WikiWednesday (Aug 23) and Governors Island Wiki-Picnic (Sun Aug 27)
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Sunday: NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Gov Island
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Sep 20: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting
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Sun Oct 1: NYC Hispanic/Latinx Heritage Month 2023
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Wiki.NYC Pavilion for Open House New York (Oct 21–22) and Wikidata Day (Oct 29)
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Nov 15: WikiWednesday Salon + Wikimedia NYC Executive Director job
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Wed Dec 6: Hacking Night + job listing
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Thu Jan 4: Hacking Night + Wikipedia Day soon
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Thu Feb 8 NYC Hacking Night + Feb 21 WikiWednesday
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:16, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Tue March 5: Wiki Gala NYC
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WikiNYC: 3/14 Hacking Night + 3/16 Queens Name Explorer
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WikiWednesday (April 10) and City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon (April 11)
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Thu April 25: WikiNYC Hacking Night
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May 8: WikiWednesday Salon with new Executive Director
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June 2: Hacking Sunday (+preview of June 8 Wiknic)
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Sat June 8: Governors Island Wiknic
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June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC
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Fri July 19: Wikicurious in NYC, Editing Wikipedia for Beginners
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--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2024 (UTC)