User talk:Storye book/Archive 27

Bach
my joy - more on my talk - thank for reviewing his cantata, and great help with other DYK articles! What do think about the Mühlbauer nom? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It took me a while (I have short-term memory problems), but I found it and linked it in your comment so that I could find it again. I've had a quick glance and I'll look again tomorrow. Storye book (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to get caught "canvassing", - compare the deletion discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I didn't know it was problematic to ask for an opinion? Anyway, I took a look and made a comment, and I didn't take sides. I hope it helps. Storye book (talk) 23:07, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * You are a wonderful diplomat, and eloquent, and I will turn to you right away next time we have this cultural misuderstanding, silently hoping there won't be a next time, but I said so for Elena Guseva, and still ... ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hehe, Thank you! Good luck! Storye book (talk) 11:06, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ... and all this because I failed to nominate TeleTrusT in time ;) - busy remodelling the life storey of Hans Neuenfels from what I found: a collecton of scandals. Then George Crumb about whom I know nothing but that he deserves to be mentioned on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:23, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you for helping with both - I'd love to give his wife, whom he met early and who played leading roles in plays, more prominence, but as I don't know yet how, I'll turn to Crumb first, - you are quite welcome to beat me to it regarding his wife, and am sure that you could tell their story better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 8 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the links to Neuenfels and Crumb - two naughty boys - great fun. I knew a teenager in the 60s who used to put plates, cutlery and other stuff from the kitchen behind his piano strings, play loudly, and break strings. He told his mother it was Bartok, but now I'm thinking it sounds more like Crumb's influence. That teenager grew to be a fine pianist and he still does piano concerts, I believe.
 * Sorry I can't take on any new articles at the moment (though I am still on call for DYK review-type contribution). I have an article which I really must finish (have to read a book on it first) and I'm currently preparing to give a lecture on the Mawer Group.
 * If you mean Crumb's wife - well, the article is big enough to take a special section about her, so you can write as much or little about her as you have citations for. Storye book (talk) 12:18, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks much, nono, Neuenfels wife, see his ibox, - she has her article, - no special section but mention her when meeting and playing and playing what, all this very early in his career - now I'm hungry, more later --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Valentine's Day edition, with spring flowers and plenty of music - do you have an opinion on Cosima Wagner? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * wonderful post there, thank you! perhaps somehow bold "support infobox"? - Did you know that the particular article was mentioned in the 2013 arb case, in which my friend who had inserted the infobox (on Christmas Day 2012, the day after her TFA appearance, - imagine, he was careful to not cause "disruption" on TFA day) was suggested to be banned? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. There has been further conversation there, and I have replied in the hope of keeping the peace. I don't think it would help to inflame certain people who have strong views by adding bold headings to my comments. I don't think that the issue there is about getting an infobox into the article; that would only make things worse. I think the problem is that there are bullies there, and we need to keep the peace. Luckily the article can survive without an infobox for the present, because not having one doesn't take anything away. Storye book (talk) 19:41, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Ukraine, sigh. - Tsallagova: I'm out of there, just clarifying that it's always dangerous to treat a translation as almost a quote. "interesting when only looking around a corner" is my rough idea of "eine Darstellerin, die sich vollkommen natürlich entfalten kann, die interessiert, sobald sie nur um die Bühnenecke lugt", more precisely: "sich entfalten" would perhaps better be "flourish" (The German is what flower petals do), and she is interesting, when she only peeks around a corner of the stage.

Thank you for reminding me of Cosima Wagner, - it's not a matter of survival but accessibility. I don't know if you know the essay by RexxS about what to consider, - linked from my user page. See also the close of Peter Sellers RfC (of yesterday). I don't comment on editors, period, - haven't seen a bully for a long time in the field. But I may hopefully point at the latest edit history there, - in the article I mean. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see what you mean about difficulty with translation and the issues with the Peter Sellers article. Having seen Tsallagova act, I can vouch for the truth of your translation, even if it cannot include all the subtleties of the original. The translation expresses a truth about her acting, which I believe is OK - it is just one way of saying that she can act well, and we cannot argue with that. So maybe it's time to relax and be happy about DYK hooks - they are ephemeral, after all. All we want is for the hook to lead the readers to the article, then they will see all the things that we want them to see. So turn off the news about Ukraine, have something nice to eat, and enjoy some lovely music. Storye book (talk) 21:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Good advice, just stupid me doesn't follow ;) - Music was Così fan tutte tonight. DYK - what I see is that millions see the Main page each day, and only a few thousand actually click a hook, so I love to give the millions one thought to remember. - Ukraine is pictured on my talk. They sang from Rheinberger's 8-part a cappella mass, among others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
 * stand and sing Prayer for Ukraine --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 28 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I took the pic in 2009, and it was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - As for Cosima: my mode of getting back to ibox adding was: suggest on the talk, wait a week, add when no opposition. I could by now add it, because no serious opposition, but how about more neutral you do that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * That's a lovely photo, well done! As for Cosima Wagner, I unwatched its talk page because that last reply by Charles01 sounded hostile; this is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, not social media. Sometimes talk pages become toxic. I had understood "proposal" to mean the beginning of a discussion about the suggested content of the infobox. So I suggested content to fit "known for". And when you changed "known for" to "occupation", I agreed with that. So he had no grounds for complaint becaise I was not off-topic. Yes I agree with your tactic about replacing the infobox - I hope it works. The article does need an infobox. Storye book (talk) 12:40, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

March editathons
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March songs
Thank you for a hook for the soprano that made people look (even if I don't understand why)! Listening to the charity concert mentioned here. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Well done! I think you must be one of the most hard-working editors here, so you deserve a lot of views at DYK. I look forward to seeing your next one. Storye book (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * With my niche topics, I normally don't get many views ;) - I got all the views for Kafka on his 130th birthday, DYK? He had the google doodle, - I had no idea what that means. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! And keep up the niche topics - people who just try to please the herd just end up with lowest-common-denominator work - and that is not going to happen to you. And no, I don't know what google doodle means, either. It sounds like an American expression, meaning maybe the Google jig or celebratory dance? Storye book (talk) 10:27, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Google doodle ;) - thank you for the barnstar! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! ETA - ah so that's what a google doodle is - duh! Storye book (talk) 16:12, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Now, you can also listen on YouTube, and more music, the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices call "Freiheit!" (freedom, instead of "Freude", joy). Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:31, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I enjoyed that! Storye book (talk) 18:07, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you - St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. Lovely! Storye book (talk) 09:10, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Bach's No. 1 today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It's on Youtube: J.S. Bach - Chorus "Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern" from Cantata BWV 1. I was going to add the link to the article's External links section, but as it's currently featured, I wasn't sure if it would stay there. Anyway, it's a fantastic recording. I love the hunting horns - they totally make the performance - and I'd never heard of a hunting oboe. There's a harpsichord (my friend Denzil Wraight makes them, including the German type (or used to) near Naumburg - I wonder if that's one of his?). So if the other instruments are historic, I'm wondering whether the strings are viols? A powerful performance, anyway. Storye book (talk) 16:46, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, - you can add it, it will stay or not, - worth trying. The strings are violins, - viols play in other pieces, such as BWV 106, - they were old-fashioned in Bach's time already. - Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I added it to External links. Let's see if it sticks (Update: it didn't). Storye book (talk) 21:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * It didn't because it was a duplicate which I didn't check. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I did check, but I didn't see the video in the other link (it's there now, and working fine). Storye book (talk) 10:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello
You left such a beautiful message for Gerda. She is amazing and a wonderful friend. I don't know if it was intentional or not but you left the barnstar and message on her user page instead of her talk page though. -- A Rose Wolf  13:02, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Oops, my bad. I have put it right. Thankyou. Storye book (talk) 14:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * You are so welcome and the thanks belongs to you for your kindness. You left such a beautiful message for Gerda that is so warranted. Your user name in the history of her talk page giving her that barnstar was more important and community building than me forcing adherence to some policy or etiquette by moving it myself. -- A Rose Wolf  15:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Euphemia Steele Innes
Well done on your great work on Euphemia Steele Innes! I hope you don't mind, but I have moved your links regarding the 2nd Northern General Hospital from Fir Vale Hospital in Sheffield to 2nd Northern General Hospital in Leeds. A full list of the locations of these military hospitals is at Royal Army Medical Corps. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 20:08, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you. I really appreciate your help and corrections. This subject is a labyrinth, due to all the name changes etc. over the years. Please feel free to correct more of it if you need to. Meanwhile I'm struggling to track down a clearer picture of Innes. A London institution agreed on the phone to scan a particular photo for me - so I'm hoping. Storye book (talk) 21:08, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

April Editathons from Women in Red
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April songs
Thank you soo much for your patient diplomacy. I hope so much it will sink in eventually. All these peanuts - compared to Maks Levin ... - I unwatched the Serhiy Kot nom, can take only so much at a time. Have the same nominated in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your April songs. Hehe, it was not so much patient diplomacy for me this time. I totally lost my temper. You can tell when I get really angry - I become very carefully formal, sometimes icy - and make jokes. It's because I think you have a troll following your templates around. I think that that person's attitude is unhealthy, although they don't break any rules as far as I can see. They just waste everybody's time. I wonder what would happen if you gave them the sort of stupid hook that they are looking for? We need to find a musician who once got drunk and fell off the stage, or something. We all need something to cheer us up. Your article about Maks Levin made me cry. Storye book (talk) 17:05, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The other side probably sees it the opposite way: that I am only good for lengthy discussions ;) - Not "my article" at all, many began, but when this translation tag appeared, I had to act. We sang yesterday (see my talk) - Verleih uns Frieden, with some intensity. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * if you watched DYK: some signs of "peace" could be detected - memories: two people on DYK, both connected to Oper Frankfurt, and don't miss yesterday's video of Pink Floyd given to me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * All good news! And I love the Pink Floyd recording. All will be well, now, I hope. I think I mentioned that I had a photoshoot to complete this week - here is a little bit of it. I had been trying to get permission to photograph it for several years. A thing of beauty, and worth the effort of the photo-essay. Enjoy. Storye book (talk) 20:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * interesting perspectives! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That's the idea! Storye book (talk) 09:09, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * got it ;) - Main Page history/2022 April 13: the TFA is hard to overlook, but there are also peace prayers, a soprano and a theatre manager, - if you don't find them try here --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:51, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You are doing a great job. Thank you for the links. Storye book (talk) 09:07, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * more if you like: dance and singing, peace doves and icecream --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you - good vibes for April! Storye book (talk) 09:10, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * next offer of vibes: now you can listen to what I heard live yesterday, (that's 25 April in Dresden, a different violinist, but the same program) - ours pictured here - dove sono as encore --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, definitely good vibes. Thank you for copying this to me. Storye book (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

New "article"?
Did you intend to create Assisting copyright-holders to give permission for uploads in mainspace or your user space? (It's currently in main)  Schazjmd   (talk)  16:45, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Aagh. Thank you for the heads up. Yes you are right, it was supposed to be in userspace, for my own records only, of what had worked so far. I have now given the mainspace article a speedy template, and I have removed the content to my userspace. Thank you again for alerting me. Storye book (talk) 17:15, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Euphemia Steele Innes
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Deb
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 * I have responded on the article's talk page. Storye book (talk) 10:04, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Guy Alfred Wyon
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Gerda
Thank you for the story behind Guy Alfred Wyon! - I have another stalled nom, Kyiv National Academic Molodyy Theatre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Glad you like the Wyon article. His carved stone memorial portrait is really beautiful in real life (pity about his photo, which is not so cute). I have made some suggestions for new hooks on the template. I hope someone can find something that they can use. It is not easy to please everyone. Storye book (talk) 14:33, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, only: I'm busy with Easter, and we have two days. I thought the very first suggestion was much to the point, + correcting that this theatre sailed for more than a decade as youth theatre, instead of young theatre. New hooks much later, if at all. We'll never please all, but it's my belief that the nominator should be heard first. If I'm not too tired after singing Hallelujah tonight, I'll sent Easter greetings ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

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Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings @ Storye book,

Hi, I am User:Bookku, I find information and knowledge gaps, try to recruit article expanding editors and promote drafts articles for further expansion.

Requesting your visit to following drafts / articles and help expand the same if any of these interests you.


 * Encyclopedia


 * Logical fallacies


 * Draft:Irrational beliefs

I came to your user page after reading one of your recent posts @ WT:WIR. I do not have any quick fix magic solution to offer against confirmation biases and vested interests; IMHO, behavioral change in any community is long drawn process. IMO we can make community indirectly revisit their core values by working on information and knowledge gaps in related spheres.

Thanks and warm regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the invitation. However I don't think that I can help you with these subjects. Although I enjoy playing with logic, philosophy and allied subjects personally, that will not help. What you most need in those articles is citations, and to help with that I would need to be a student of that subject or have qualifications in same - because then I would be able to track down the books which contain the necessary citations. I could skim through the three articles and see if there is any copyediting needed, but that would be it. Sorry. Storye book (talk) 15:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for William Beauchamp Nevill
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 03:30, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Constantine Zochonis
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

wikipedia library and bogus urls
Please be mindful of the urls that you take from the wikipedia library. None of the urls to JSTOR that I replaced in this edit allow our readers to get to the JSTOR source; wikipedia library hijacks them. Not good for readers. For JSTOR sources, the best thing to do is to use the jstor parameter because almost always, the JSTOR source is behind a registration wall; urls should be reserved for free-to-read sources.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll bear that in mind. Storye book (talk) 09:32, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

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May songs
I have the quirky DYK today, which is rare, and I don't quite know why music for peace was deemed quirky. - I took and picked the blue-and-yellow pic last year for May. - In case you are not yet exhausted from my DYK problems, there's Serhiy Kot. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Would you offer an icon? - serious today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 4 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Done. Storye book (talk) 10:02, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you! - two songs today: Hey Hey Rise Up! (written by friends) and Glauben können wie du, sung by the person I have on DYK today, right below the other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Your music just gives and gives. Thank you for this! Storye book (talk) 15:29, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * today performances in Ukraine - for Ukraine - for peace, at the bottom an imaginary set of eight DYK - and more May pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I couldn't find the imaginary set of 8 DYKs??? Storye book (talk) 15:51, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * "at the bottom", no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, haha, I see what you did. Great! Storye book (talk) 16:31, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * done for vanity ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * :-D Storye book (talk) 20:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * today more pics, and should this woman have an article? - or only her sons? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. I have commented on the article's talk page. Can you get access to Nikolaus' book? Storye book (talk) 14:19, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * There's limited access, and I used what I can see which is not much. The tag is gone for now, and I'll go out now ;) - thanks for helping that distant relative --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Back, and refreshing it was: here is another review of the book. Don't waste time arguing, just enjoy the pics. I read now in Meine Familie, the preface by the editor, Alice Harnoncourt (whose article is in a sad state, next project ...), which says that the strong and unique character of his mother always remained a mystery to her husband, then the first "scene", narrated by him, beginning with his mother pouring a bucket of water over him, a naked yelling little boy, who interrupted yelling only for a short while, then her own memories of the things she did to her teachers ending with the threat of no first communion - nothing too encyclopedic I'm afraid. Back to: enjoy the pics, photos and caricatures. Where I live, it's already the next day, with Unita Blackwell on the German Main page, and Teresa Berganza on the English. To bed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 13 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Great pictures - thank you for the link! Storye book (talk) 09:58, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Congrats to the DYK! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Storye book (talk) 10:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 * today Melody (not by me), and more pics - did you see Theo Lebow's DYK nom? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt to Theo Lebow. I'm guessing that Lebow is of Flemish extraction. There is a Flemish actor with the surname "De Bouw" in Professor T (one of my favourite series). And it's good that Ukrainian music including Melody is getting worldwide publicity and compassion right now. Storye book (talk) 10:15, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you for the approval - my choir in Idstein performed an evensong (pictured), two years and two months after the last! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Excellent! :-D Storye book (talk) 09:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you - a strong woman singing today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Super picture, too. Storye book (talk) 10:08, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * yes, article by Ipigott, pic - the reason to have it - by Adam Cuerden - I only did formatting per project opera. Next for DYK: Liva Järnefelt, the usual nom storye, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Storye book (talk) 14:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * thanks for understanding ;) - next great singer today, and some glorious colours --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, you found a good one there. Storye book (talk) 09:34, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * the singer, you mean? - blue: today saw my pic of the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra on the Main page - blue light for you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

That's a great picture. Well done. Please could you tell me what "blue light" represents? In the UK it used to represent the police, because police stations once had a blue lamp over the door. In banks, here, they use a blue light to look for forged banknotes. I googled it, but it said that autism charities use a blue light as their symbol. You are not talking about those things, so forgive my ignorance, I'm puzzled! Storye book (talk) 10:17, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * In the concert hall, it was the blue from the Ukrainian flag colours, there's also yellow but less prominent for my little camera. (Same was on the right of the stage, so there were moments when the tuba was bright blue!) By pure coincidence, the following image also had blue light, here by the sun coming though church windows. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, of course, silly me, I forgot about that. It must have been a beautiful concert. Thank you for the link to the picture. Storye book (talk) 16:04, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Great concert, on YouTube (not what I heard but same program), link on my talk. Did you watch Cosima Wagner? Someone from the old days of infoboxes not wanted read obviously nothing of the discussion. 10 years precious, and learned little, sigh ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, I have just seen the discussion on the Cosima Wagner talk page. I do not understand the fear of infoboxes at all. They do summarise basic information, and I have not yet seen an example of a non-useful infobox. But there are people on WP who have strange objections: for example they may object to galleries, and there are some who object to pictures per se. I currently have a problem with an editor who does not object to pictures, but who will find any excuse to remove a Commons category link (commonscat). My suspicion is that those who do not want an infobox on Cosima Wagner's page would like to hide something; probably something political. Whatever the truth of the matter, I believe that it is an unhealthy atiitude to object to an infobox. If an article creator does not want one, then that is a different matter - but usually the article creator knows what is best. That is what I think, anyway, regarding that article. Storye book (talk) 17:23, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Problem: the author (the legendary BB) is dead, and his friend thinks it's kind of bad to touch articles he left. Only, BB wasn't against infoboxes, but obviously was successful in hiding that from his friend(s). His friend didn't read the discussion, but just came up with the old rhetoric, and I don't know if I should laugh or cry. I asked today for valid objections, and prejudice is no valid objection. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sadly, some people have never learned the art of discussion. All they know, is to resort to emotion, to raise their voices, and to repeat themselves. If one is too close to it, it looks like stupidity or rudeness, but it is really caused by poor education. Because such people cannot argue back, they become frustrated, and that makes them angry - then they use impolite language, and in real life their fists come up. So I am not joining the argument on the C.W. talkpage. Those people are not worth it. Of course I would like the article to have an infobox, but I think it will have to live without it so long as those people are behaving like that. Storye book (talk) 22:31, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I see a different problem: people educated on such a high level that they want to force readers to study the elaborated prose (instead of finding where she died in a box). I may repeat myself, but the attitude showed in a nutshell in the discussion for The Rite of Spring (recommended reading), when an editor said "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ps in case it's not obvious: that's also an article by BB, and received an infobox while he was alive. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree; I think we are both right. In every article there is a place for summaries, and a place for detailed writing, and there is nothing wrong with having both. Storye book (talk) 15:55, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * You said that well! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
... a day late, sorry, I was pleasantly occupied by music and family, see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 7 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thankyou! Glad you had a good time. Storye book (talk) 08:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I did, just see pics of four musical events in two days, imagine - on my talk or here, - singing in choir in one! my brother playing in 2! singing the song people associate with me the most in the fourth! - I'll be back with the June flowers when the next DYK set hits the Main page, still in preparation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * ... and thank you for help with the tenor, all fixed while I was away! I will have no excuse with the new hook to list him on Germany DYK, though, but it will not be much of a difference. Did you know what my idea was: ... that tenor TL created roles in 27? - Why "originated" instead of "created" I fail to understand, but I have enough of things I didn't get to for the last days, - lets not get stuck with peanuts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't know that hymn - I guess it's a chorale? Some of our best hymn tunes in the UK are chorales imported from Germany. I agree about "originated", it's rubbish, but frankly I just wanted to get the thing through DYK. At least the public will understand that Lebow did it first, and maybe they'll then hear him on YouTube. I guess a lot of nonsense gets into DYK because people want to push past all the bickering. Storye book (talk) 10:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you ;) - I don't know what you mean by "all the bickering". I could give you 10 samples easily of opera singers passing DYK without problems (1, 2, 3 ...). I all depends on the reviewer. Can't help thinking that same reviewer might oppose "take off" as a description of a flight "originating", because readers may know the phrase in a different context. - The song is not a hymn (and a chorale is a four-part-setting of a hymn), but a refreshing summer song. I should make it GA. You heard it here the first time ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I added a YT to the song article, first step. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

June events from Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

John Farrah
I was surprised that you reverted ALL my edits to the page on John Farrah without any explanation. Some may be arguable, but all?


 * Children = Three -- OK, no argument
 * Parents = Joseph and Esther Farrah -- OK, the parents aren't notable
 * nationality = British removed (obvious) undo Tag: Reverted -- You seem to have thought better of this
 * death_place = Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England -- Do all readers know where Knaresborough is? Surely it's helpful to say that it's in Yorkshire.
 * birth_place = Harrogate, Yorkshire, England -- as with Knaresborough, though more readers will have heard of Harrogate
 * caption = John Farrah removed: who else might it be? -- Is it really necessary to tell readers twice that the picture is of John Farrah, both above and below it?  Athel cb (talk) 17:40, 2 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Done. My apologies. I meant to correct "Yorkshire" to "North Riding" but forgot - that's why you found it missing. As for the caption, I agree, and that was a mistake on my part. That part of Yorkshire was the North Riding in those days, and If I hadn't corrected it to North Riding, another Yorks editor would have done it. I hope we are at peace now. Storye book (talk) 21:14, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for William West (botanist)
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for William West Jr
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

DYK for George Stephen West
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Thomas Eyre Macklin
—Kusma (talk) 00:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

Christof May
Thank you, excellent story! - Tell me, I am undecided. Christof May - you will have seen, - the easiest way would be no DYK, as I did in other such case. But making his position of hopes better known, I'd love to say something, but how to do that without leaving the allegations out? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:02, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look. Storye book (talk) 06:53, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, yes, I see your point. Poor man. Whatever the truth of the matter, one strong possibility is that it was a false accusation triggered by the wide publicity of his controversial sermon. Before making a DYK nomination, I think we would need to see the police (or some other authority) investigating the accusations/accusers, in the hope of discovering whether his name could be cleared or not. If there is such an ongoing investigation, even if there is not yet an answer, at least that would formally bring the accusation into question. Until that new investigation happens, I would not personally attempt a DYK nom. But that's only my opinion; do what you think is best. At least we have the article; that is the important thing. Storye book (talk) 07:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 * The nom would have to be today, and we still don't know more, and possibly not much detail will come to the public. We know that a farewell letter was found, but not a hint at what it says, for example. I think I will do as in the other sad case: nothing. He received a 5-digit response for RD, and a 3-digit-DYK result is not needed. Promotion of his ideas is a different story. That sermon ended: ""Ich wünsche mir ein Ackerfeld, einen Weinberg des Herrn, der bunt ist – und nicht neben, sondern mitten in der Gesellschaft steht." (I want a field of crops, a vineyard of the Lord that is colourful - and not next to, but in the middle of society.) - Having written that, there's a new article in Die Zeit, but I have no access. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * ps: In the sermon, he mentioned a homosexual couple by names, with their permission, the actor Till Krabbe and Berthold Possemeyer (who was Elijah in "my" second performance of Mendelssohn's oratorio, at Kurhaus Wiesbaden, that hall pictured with the Kyiv Symphony Orchestra, remember?). I have no facts but would not be surprised if May was also homosexual, and why not. He was a very sensitive flute player, filling the large church (where the two mentioned have been active as lectors and other functions) to begin Lenten devotions, - lovely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:39, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does sound as if the allegations were all lies. Maybe one day an investigation will clear his name. I hope the authorities will be pressured to do that. Storye book (talk) 15:13, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

June music
Ukrainian peace music is now "on"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Our linguistic misunderstandings fascinate me ;-). Yes, of course, by bickering I meant the ankle-biting by any individual who may have a bee in their bonnet (i.e. over-anxious obsession) about role-hooks - whoever they might be.


 * I have absolutely no idea of what you mean by "take off". As a verb in informal English you can take off your clothes, an aeroplane (or escaped convict) can take off in flight, a comedian can take off (parody) an unpopular politician. A take-off (noun) can also be the beginning of a successful development, e.g. in a career or business, but because that usage is so informal, it can be misunderstood by international readers. The expression "take-off" is increasingly being used now to mean plagiarism, e.g. a take-off of someone else's musical phrase, to be used in a new song - that used to be an homage, now it's stealing. Yes at the same time the very joy of the English language is its inherent ambiguity, depending only on context for the meaning of the words.


 * As for "chorale", well, yes, I was taught at GCE music in 1967 your definition of the chorale (we studied a Bach partita and a Handel oratorio; I still love both). But all the chorales that we use in the UK for hymn tunes have the same type of key, rhythm and tune. They are all recognisable for their origin, and you could march to most of them if you speeded them up a bit. So to me they are tunes from chorales - I apologise for my imprecision! Now I am reminded of music GCE - it was wonderful and also a nightmare. My mother had a mental condition, and when she was given a free ex-church piano she sold it within two weeks because the couldn't stand her child practising; if I had played full-blown Rachmaninov that would have been acceptable ... So, as a kid having no previous musical experience, I had to teach myself to compose four-part harmony in my head and write it down correctly, and so on. None of the other kids in the class could do that, and they had full hearing capacity, which I didn't. The teacher hated me for being "too b****y clever by half" and refused to allow me to study for the A-level exam. But neither she nor my poor mother could take my love of music away. Storye book (talk) 13:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I think you got what I meant, this argument that we can't say "create (a role)" because it could be misunderstood for different usage, might as well be applied to "don't say "a plane takes off" because readers might misunderstand it, used to "take off a week". - If I remember I may go to "ERRORS" for the "originate" because it's plain unprofessional, and we should not teach our readers such a thing ;) - I'm happy that the hook about the conductor says something meaningful, while I'm still cross with that we couldn't say anything positive about the violinist, because the before-mentioned reviewer found that "held" is too ambiguous. On my user page, I still use something positive. Did you see the video? (bottom of his page), "from the stage into war"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Wow. Semenenko is a brave man. His situation is beyond terrifying. If you to to Errors, please send me a link; I would be happy to support that change, if that is needed. Storye book (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * As ERRORS wants not to discuss but say right or wrong, I tried at WT:DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. That editor is stalking you on his watchlist, otherwise, how would he have seen it so quickly? Storye book (talk) 09:42, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * That editor is watching WT:DYK. Look for the name in the archives, - the most frequent one there, I believe. I came for a different thing: Violin Concerto (Berg) should - I believe - have Berg's dedication in the lead, not only in the infobox. I bet you could word it better than I could. It's in the prose but the lead should shorten it and I don't know how. The line should of course stay. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Storye book (talk) 10:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Now try to have the commission first, the dedication second. Berg had procrastinated the commission until she died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Storye book (talk) 14:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * You know, that article about Berg reminded me of how at school, between classes, I sat and read the whole of this book from the school library, because I had no piano and no more music lessons, but I wanted to understand. Girls who had grade 8 piano would come and look over my shoulder and wonder, because they hadn't learnt about the 12-tone scale yet. Well, neither had I, I just wanted to know. Self-education is sometimes, just sometimes, better than school. It's strange, looking at that photo of the book cover, and recognising it, after all these years. Storye book (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * amazing, yes - today: a song about getting through the night, after plenty of music over the weekend --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Great music, and great picture. Thank you. Keep up the good work! Storye book (talk) 08:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! - the nom of the Ukrainian violinist is open again, and you know who approved one of 4 hooks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
 * . Have you seen this? I have sought advice from an admin who tells me that the article that I expanded "clearly meets WP:GNG". Storye book (talk) 20:10, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Alfred Egerton Cooper
Hi SB! Thanks for your excellent work on this article and the co-nom for the DYK.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 11:35, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I have a bit more to do (there are more sources out there) and then I'll summarise it all in the header. I hope to get it done soon. Storye book (talk) 15:47, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Storye book (talk) 09:46, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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Women in Red in July 2022
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1882 murders


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A cup of tea for you!

 * Thank you! And thank you for your patience with the nomination taking such a long time. Storye book (talk) 17:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)