User talk:TonyTheTiger/Archive 50

Millennium Park
Hey, congrats on FA for Millennium Park! I admit there wasn't much I could do to improve it. Kevin Forsyth (talk) 00:28, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations on the FA for Millennium Park; I'm glad I was able to help in a small way. I need a day or so to think about Juwan Howard and your generous offer. I'm pretty sure I could help, and I like Howard, but I need to be careful not to overbook. What kind of timeline do you have in mind? Finetooth (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OK. That makes perfect sense, and the time crunch is not too crunchy. I'm fine with Howard; he played for Portland (where I live) last year, and I've been aware of him since he was part of the Fab Five. I'm not a content expert when it comes to Howard, but I won't be totally clueless either. The first thing I'd think about doing is adding the persondata (metadata invisible except in edit mode) to the bottom of the article. I have a handy script for doing that. Finetooth (talk) 03:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


 * My congratulations too (and thanks for the thanks). I should finish the copyedit today (only reception and the lead left to do), but would really like to take this to Peer Review. It always helps to have other eyes on it before FAC and the PR backlog is very small right now. Congrats too on having Fountain of Time as TFA right now! Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations! What's the update with the featured topic thing? Dr.  Blofeld  15:42, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

So if Exelon Pavilions passes FA, then the feature topic can be regained? Dr.  Blofeld  15:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I see. Well it shouldn't be rushed but it would be nice to get another FA before it does get delisted. I'll try to look at it when I can. I'd better not comment at the FAC though as I've neglected reviewing articles of late so Sandy would have a point if I turned up to support it. Dr.  Blofeld  16:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Dan Cocoziello
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Juwan Howard copyedit
Hi Tony. I worked my way through the end of the "High School" section today. I boldly made changes that I thought would not be controversial; feel free to revert any you think are not good. In some cases, I have questions about the content, and I've posted them to the Juwan Howard talk page. I'm sure to have more questions as I work my way through the lower sections, but I thought posting small batches as I went along would probably be better than saving them all up. Finetooth (talk) 23:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Got the two e-mails. Thanks. I'll keep beavering away; I'm moving on to the college section today. Finetooth (talk) 20:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Done, yes, except for two fairly easy questions I posted to the article's talk page this morning. Finetooth (talk) 19:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ryan Mollett
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Valued picture candidates/Map of Chicago 1830

 * This nomination is one month old and i think it should be retired and i was gonna vote i just wanted to save it for last beacuse im not used to closing nominations im getting used to it. Spongie555 (talk) 03:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There is two votes now(i voted). I think it is very historical. I wanted to close it beacuse we have too many nominations over 7 days and this nomination was 1 month old that it too old. Spongie555 (talk) 03:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes i know about that if you voted you cant close it but i when i asked another VP user about closing he said it was an unwritten rule Spongie555 (talk) 04:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Even though i think it was ok for me to close it i asked a picture vetern to look it over. Spongie555 (talk) 04:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I opened the nomination again beacuse it needs 2 more votes. I was told by a picture veteren. Spongie555 (talk) 04:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Alex Hewit
The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Trombino
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Chicago 1830 plat
I think that the reproduction on p. 18 of M.M. Quaife's book here: http://www.archive.org/details/chicagoshighways00quairich might be the original version of this plat. Initially I thought to replace the A.T. Andreas version that I originally uploaded with this one, but on further thought I think that the Andreas version is clearer—if the Quaife version is of the original though perhaps it has better historical value. —Jeremy (talk) 18:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for David Morrow (sports)
The DYK project (nominate) 00:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Chicago River restitch?
Hi Tony. Any progress on having the image at this nomination restitched? If an edit isn't coming any time soon, I'm inclined to just close the nomination. You can then re-nominate at your convenience. Thanks. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:59, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jon Hess (lacrosse)
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Chris Massey (lacrosse)
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Josh Sims
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 06:07, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jesse Hubbard
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DYK for Scott Bacigalupo
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for B. J. Prager
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Matt Striebel
-- Cirt (talk) 06:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Exelon photo
Hi Tony, what do you think of this photo on Flickr of the NE pavilion for the article, if the photographer gives permission? If you like it, do you want to ask the Flickr user or do you want me to try? I would use it in place of the current NE pavilion image, but if you like that better, please say so. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I prefer the infobox image of the NW pavilion too. SOrry to be unclear - the Flickr image is of the NE pavilion and I was thinking of using it in place of this one in the article. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 15:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I looked at all freely licensed images of BP Bridge on Flickr and found a new one I added to the article - what do you think? Feel free to remove it if you want. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for identifying the location and fixing the caption. I would be willing to work on Lurie Garden for FAC, but not right away. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me think anout it - I do not like working on Wiki on deadline - too much of that in real life ;-) Plus I have some other things I promised to work on first. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:19, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I uploaded the photo on Commons and added it to the article - I think it is a much better picture of the NE pavilion than what was there before. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:52, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Trevor Tierney
-- Cirt (talk) 18:02, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

SUPPORT
Fuck the protocol! Sorry I snapped at you the other day. I think we actually have a good few things in common... J Milburn (talk) 21:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For the time being, I'm deliberately not participating in VPC, as I have very mixed feelings about the project. It would seem that there are plenty of people who feel there is no issue with the license plates, so I guess I don't have an issue with it. J Milburn (talk) 21:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Not one that I know of, though Commons may have some advice buried somewhere. By the way, the mushroom people left you a gift. J Milburn (talk) 21:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it is violating protocol
Dude, be prepared to have the stuff kicked out of you. I've had Milburn and Raeky kick the stuff out of me. Weather the storm, keep trying and don't take FPC rejections personally. Gut Monk (talk) 21:40, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ryan Boyle
-- Cirt (talk) 06:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for E. Normus Johnson
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DYK for Big Johnson
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my neglect
Tony, very sorry to have left off your FA promotion. Tony  (talk)  11:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar, FAC, further
Thank you very much for the barnstar and kind words. I think you are probably right about the FAC, but it's always hard to guess how smoothly that process will go. I hope that I did not miss anything substantial. It occurred to me this morning that I had not checked the image licenses, so I checked them just now, and they look fine. As for doing another one, oh, ouch, that's what I get for being quick. :-) You are insatiable, but that seems to be part of your success. I must say no, really. Although I spend an unusual fraction of my life reviewing, I like to do a lot of other things as well, and I have plans for off-wiki as well as on-wiki adventures this fall. As a reviewer, I like to help a wide variety of writers rather than just a few. Finally, I see that you have a large lead over all other WP:CUP contenders. I'd be surprised if anyone caught you. My best, Finetooth (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Thompson Chicago plat 1830
Hi Tony. Although I have commented at this FPC I haven't voted. Even though I sourced and uploaded this image I would actually lean towards opposing this as a FP—it is just a screen capture from Google Books and the quality of the scan is not that great. I have looked in to finding a better quality scan, but so far I have had no luck. If I find a copy of Andreas' book that is cheap enough I may buy it and scan it myself. I also tend to agree with the editor who commeted along the lines that, whilst the EV of this image is indisputable, it perhaps lacks the more broad appeal necessary for a FP. —Jeremy (talk) 19:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Barry Bonds
Heyo! Just letting you know I just signed up to review this rather massive subject at GAN. I'm working on the review right now. As to the complaints on the CUP you just removed from your page... Let me swear to you I'd be surprised if you don't finish in the top 2-3 (and have a very good shot at winning). Staxringold talkcontribs 19:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Juwan Howard
Hey Tony, I think there are some major edits needed to Juwan Howard before it can be FA worthy. First of all, I pointed out huge omissions about his wife and kids that were only covered very lightly, and with an IMDB and an "unknown" reference at that. They also mentioned he lived in Miami for a while, at least as a side home. The whole "Personal" section is rather poorly organized, and the beginning paragraph of it would be better suited for an "Early life" section. Finally, the prose is decent, if not brilliant in some spots. ~ <font color="#F900">EDDY  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 01:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Quick fail
I don't think those three are ready for GA just yet; the season sections are very light and don't really delve into as much detail. I wouldn't expect them to be as detailed as 2008–09 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team or the 09-10 one, but they should at least be detailed in their own right. Previews and recruiting I could understand a tiny section, since that's rather recent in terms of the volume that's written on it, but season info should be quite easy to find and convert into prose. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 01:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1997 Michigan Wolverines football team
The article 1997 Michigan Wolverines football team you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:1997 Michigan Wolverines football team for things which need to be addressed. <font style="color:	#002664">~DC <font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma">Let's Vent 18:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I responded to your comments. <font style="color:	#002664">~DC  <font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma">Let's Vent 20:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Congrats it passed. <font style="color:	#002664">~DC <font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma">Let's Vent 03:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Tony, congrats on getting this one to GA status. Jweiss11 (talk) 01:11, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Denard Robinson
Please, please don't turn the Robinson article into a "TMI" 30,000 byte article about a guy who has started one game. Let the article develop over time. I spent hours trying to weed out the "TMI" effect in the article on the 1997 team, and you've asked me to do more of that. Please don't create the same problem here. I'd like to keep the Robinson article manageable and readable. Cbl62 (talk) 15:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you really going to add a game-by-game summary of every interception and drive as a back-up in 2009??? Aaargh!   You've taken a concise 18,000 article and bloated it into 23,000 bytes already.  Please bear in mind the "TMI" factor.  I have to leave now, but hopefully you'll consider my comments.  I'll come back to it tonight. Cbl62 (talk) 15:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please stop re-inserting the footnote about Navarre's "total offense" with receiving yards. I added the footnote last week when it occurred to me that Navarre's total in a particular game, if receiving yards were included, was higher than the 383-yard total by Robinson against UConn.  Accordingly, it might have still been argued that Navarre was the "current" record holder.  That point has now become moot given Robinson's 502-yard performance against ND.  And his status as a "former" record holder is already established without the need to include or reference receiving yards.  Some of your edits to the article have been constructive, but your edit-warring on this point is disruptive.  Cbl62 (talk) 06:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Tony. The content is not only irrelevant.  It's simply wrong.  Navarre is a "former" record holder in total offense regardless of whether you include receiving yards.  To say he is only a "former" record holder if receiving yards are included is FALSE.  06:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Opposite
I recently nominated Chicago Union Station for featured picture. I wanted to let you know since your the Chicago expert. Spongie555 (talk) 04:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont understand the scientifc value of the image either but i put it anyway. Im not good at science but its probably about the light coming in. Spongie555 (talk) 05:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I dont know much about chicago but someone questioned the EV. Spongie555 (talk) 05:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Its actually a picture of the waiting room on the station Spongie555 (talk) 06:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Someone commented on the nomination proving EV. I dont know if peoeple will change their mind but i just wanted to say. Spongie555 (talk) 22:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

1988–89 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
Don't know if you saw the news, but Rumeal Robinson, whose free throws won the championship in the final seconds against Seton Hall, was convicted on multiple counts of bank fraud the other day. He's heading to prison for quite a while. A tragic story. Not sure if you want to mention it in the 88-89 team article, but a major expansion of the Robinson article may be in order. Cbl62 (talk) 07:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You may be right, but given your interest in the basketball team, you should consider a major rewrite of the article on Rumeal. Cbl62 (talk) 07:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Barry Bonds
First off, I am striking as I see things finished. You asked me that on my talk page about 5 seconds after adding new responses to the GAN. Secondly, they are not all finished (see the prose section). Third, that's hardly everything, that's mostly just the reference issues. Staxringold talkcontribs 22:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Howard FAC
I've been watching with interest. I'll do a c/e on the new material, for sure. If I can help in some other way, give a holler. Finetooth (talk) 04:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Links inside direct quotations are a MoS "no-no". WP:OVERLINK says in part, "Items within quotations should not generally be linked; instead, consider placing the relevant links in the surrounding text or in the "See also" section of the article." You are right about needing to link "jumper", but we need to find another way to do it. Finetooth (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Just got back from a bike ride and saw your note. I've got a couple of other off-wiki things to attend to, then I'll have a look and see what I can do. Finetooth (talk) 23:51, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Augh! The latest set of questions doesn't seem to be so much about prose as about content questions that I can't answer. Finetooth (talk) 01:52, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1960-61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK nomination of 1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK nomination of College Baseball All-America Team
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Re: Denard Robinson
My reasoning on DYK credit for this article is much the same as was determined by independent commentators on both the DYK suggestions page and Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. That is, the article was brought to DYK standards by another contributor and was even nominated for two days before your first edit to the article. It is also not obvious from a quick examination of the article history that your contributions significantly improved that article. --Allen3 talk 13:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Comparing the diffs you provided, and others I was able to locate in the article history, and comparing the article size changes, allowed me to locate 1390 bytes of readable prose added to the article by your contributions. While external links, reference citations, and info boxes are useful, they do not contribute to readable prose.  DYK requirements are for a minimum of 1500 characters of readable prose, and if the article was measured solely by your contributions it would not qualify for DYK.  While I personally do not care if you get a DYK credit for this article, I do not see any good reason to overturn the consensus displayed in both of the above discussions.


 * Before continuing in your efforts to gain an additional 10 WikiCup points, I would suggest you ask yourself if you are guaranteeing a big loss through your efforts to gain a small win. Your WikiCup activities are placing a large strain upon the various service pages used by the competition (T:TDYK, WP:GAN, WP:FAC, ...).  Just dealing with your questions this morning have consumed between 45 minutes and an hour of my time, time I could have otherwise spent working to verify a half dozen to dozen other DYK submissions.  Based upon comments appearing at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations and its archives, I am not the only one noticing the amount of unreciprocated volunteer effort required to support your continued participation in a game. If you continue in this aggressive effort to maximize your point total, it is just a matter of time before enough volunteers start to avoid you and your submissions that you will have no realistic chance of winning.  I know that I will be calculating the cost of dealing with your submissions for the next few weeks before taking the time and effort needed to assist you and your efforts. --Allen3 talk 15:53, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * As shown in my first response, you went Forum shopping and in all cases that consensus went against you. Without a good reason to overturn this reason, I see no reason not to follow the decision that was already made by the time I became involved.  Reopening the debate in yet another forum while still searching for an effective argument does not appear to be a gainful use of anyone's time. --Allen3 talk 13:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

--Allen3 talk 15:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1963–64 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1965–66 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1964–65 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
-- Cirt (talk) 18:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1960–61 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:02, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

New Jay Pritzker Pavilion pano
I like it, but do not think the article needs two panoramas in a row. Do you think there should just be one panorama or should one of them be moved elsewhere in the article? Probably should discuss this on the talk page. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 02:37, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1962–63 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1974–75 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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WP CBBALL debate
Tony, WikiProject College Basketball is having a discussion on the use of navboxes vs. succession boxes, and as someone who may feel strongly one way or the other, would you please chime in? We would like if you read the discussion before opining, but it is getting long, so when you do find the time to weigh in it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jrcla2 (talk) 13:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

RfC on Featured List Criteria section 3b
Hello. There is currently an RfC in progress at Wikipedia talk:Featured list criteria in progress regarding Criteria 3b of the featured list criteria and whether it should be modified or eliminated. As you participated in a previous discussion regarding Criteria 3b when it was first introduced, this discussion may be of interest to you. –Grondemar 16:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Frieder era hooks
Tony -- I am not sure if you noticed, but I made a suggestion on the DYK discussion page for a single "multi" on the 8 Frieder era hooks you proposed. I worry about backlash if the Main Page is inundated with 20+ separate hooks. And I think the multi I came up with for the Frieder era is decent. Just in case you hadn't noticed, you might want to check it out. Cbl62 (talk) 18:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For the same reason, I've also proposed a multi for the Johnny Orr era hooks. Cbl62 (talk) 22:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Tons of hooks
See Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 21:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

1997 Michigan Wolverines football team
Tony -- I've continued to pitch in on the 97 team article as time permits. IMO, the 3 sections that still require a lot of work are the long sections dealing with the Penn State game (5,000 bytes), the Ohio State game (5,600 bytes) and the Rose Bowl (6,400 bytes). Since the Rose Bowl already has its own separate article, that section should be cut by 50% or more. There's also a lot of unnecessary detail in the discussion of the OSU and PSU games, such that they could probably be shortened by 33% or more. Do you want to take a shot at pruning these before I jump in? It's a lot of work, and if you did some initial pruning/tightening, it would make it easier for me then to follow you and do further cleanup. Cbl62 (talk) 23:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I like the changes you made in the game summaries for PSU, OSU, and Rose Bowl. The items you pruned were all appropriate IMO.  I do think more can be done to tighten these section.  For today, I re-worked the summaries of the Iowa and Minnesota games, which weren't as daunting. Cbl62 (talk) 02:31, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1958–59 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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Your valued picture nomination was promoted

 * It is a unwritten rule about closing nominations you voted on just usually people try not to do it. I'dLoveone closes alot of nomination that I'dloveone votes on. Spongie555 (talk) 04:11, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

A curious Chicago-related question
Since you know practically everything on downtown Chicago... take a look at you would at 41.86361°N, -87.61011°W (zoom in for max rez). See the star-shaped boat piers? Question: how do these folks get out on solid land after they've parked their boats there? East of Borschov 10:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1968–69 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1969–70 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1970–71 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1971–72 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1973–74 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1975–76 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1976–77 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1979–80 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1980–81 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1983–84 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1984–85 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1985–86 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1986–87 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1987–88 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1988–89 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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FP query
Hi, the magnificent Chicago River shot I've put at the bottom of F and A for next week: it's a composite of six pics, but what do you call the Fish-eye_lens effect? I presume that was imposed on the composite as a further process. Tony  (talk)
 * Thx, will ask Raeky. Tony   (talk)  13:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Hook issue
Hey Tony, I figured I'd bring this discussion to your attention from WT:DYK. User:Cbl62 has brought up issues with your article College Baseball All-America Team, which is currently in Queue 4. I figure you'd like to address the concerns with the article so I'm bringing it up to you here. Nomader ( Talk ) 19:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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DYK for 1989–90 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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Baseball hook
Please resolve this asap. <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 22:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Clarification needed on Alexz Johnson
Please find the time to specify which version you prefer ASAP, thanks, and be sure to take a look at the recent comments. -- I'ḏ <font color="FF4C52">♥ One  15:29, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Disregard that,I see your comment there. -- I'ḏ <font color="FF4C52">♥ One  18:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Buildings along Chicago River
(This is me as WikiCup judge, rather than me as a FP regular.) Can I ask why you feel you should be able to claim points for this? J Milburn (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough- this seems a borderline case, I'm not sure everyone would be happy with this. I'll raise it on the talk page to see what people think. J Milburn (talk) 20:36, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Issues (response)
Good. I really don't think Victuallers meant the comment as an attack. The 1997 team article still needs some work on a few of the game summaries. What is your deadline for submitting it to FA? Cbl62 (talk) 02:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Apology
Tony, your outburst was unsolicited, groundless and libellous. Moreover it was in reply to me offering to waive though your articles. I think you are damaging peoples opinions of your contributions and your work. I'm willing to accept your apology (but only cos I always do). I do think you ought to seriously reconsider your priorities. Is the wikicup worth all this bad feeling? Victuallers (talk) 08:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup issues
Hey Tony. Per the discussion on the talk page, I have removed the FP and VPs for which you have claimed points. There seems to be a general feeling (among participants, judges and others) that these are not legit. There is a wider issue that needs to be discussed- there's a lot of bad feeling on the WikiCup talk page at the moment, and, rightly or wrongly, a lot of it is aimed at you. I gather that now may be a stressful time for you in the real world- if it is, consider taking some time out, or, if not fully out, just a little less active. It's helped me in the past when I've had real-world issues. Wikipedia will survive without you for a short while, and, though you may fall behind in the WikiCup, no matter where you fall now you've been one of our big players. If you do feel up to sticking around, I guess my request is that you keep your head down. The upset about the did you knows (both the issue, and your subsequent conduct, which I know you recognise as crossing the line) has reflected very badly on the WikiCup, with people now calling for it to be shut down. Could you be doubly careful with your nominations from now on? Make sure they all meet the guidelines, try and throw a little variety in and try not to nominate too many DYKs? I appreciate that this may sound like a big ask, but I suppose I'm just the barer of bad news. I'm sure neither of us want to see the WikiCup become a laughing stock or see it shot down in flames, and so, basically, I'm asking you to be careful. Please don't take this personally. J Milburn (talk) 20:42, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There are also significant, legitimate concerns about the articles you have nominated for good article status. Please, if articles are not ready, do not nominate them. It may be worth withdrawing any nominations of weaker articles. J Milburn (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I got your replies, but the decision's been made. Also, I would not recommend claiming for this image, which you did not take or upload this year, despite the fact it was your work. There is going to be far more scrutiny about your work at the moment. As I say, please, don't start fights and please be a little more careful- keep your head down. The last thing either of us wants is for the WikiCup to get a lot of bad press, and, fairly or not, that's what you seem to be bringing it at the moment. I'm sure there are some who feel you should be kicked out of the Cup, but I really don't want to do if it can be avoided. J Milburn (talk) 10:21, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sauganash Hotel
The article Sauganash Hotel you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Sauganash Hotel for things which need to be addressed. -- Cirt (talk) 21:20, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Prager
Per MOS short paragraphs should not have their own sections. If the sections then get merger properly, then only a single section will be obtained. If only one section is present in the article, then the article (even though about a notable person) will probably sit better in an overview article than alone. Consider merging the information in one titled Notable lacrosse players for Princeton University. Once the content gets merged into a such an article, then it deserves being a GA. Nergaal (talk) 02:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Your valued picture nomination you created was promoted

 * Also its ok to close nomination we voted on beacuse in VP current state it must be done to close them. Idloveone closes alot that Idloveone votes on so im not alone. Spongie555 (talk) 04:16, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Incivility, failure to AGF, and abuse of Wiki processes
I have just come across this comment you made about me at DYK, and have also become aware of your flooding of other content review processes with ill-prepared nominations. Please be aware of WP:AGF, WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. It appears to me that numerous editors and all content review processes have been pushed to their limits by your excesses, but implicating my name in problems you have brought upon yourself is an abuse of Wiki policies you surely should know well by now. For the record, I don't interact in any way shape or form with DYK, and only became aware of your unfair accusations because I was pinged on my talk to look at the discussion at WikiCup, which all seems to point one direction: you bringing WikiCup into disrepute by flooding content review processes with ill-prepared articles. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 05:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Responded by WP email.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:10, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Stay out of my inbox; it is not a place for you to evade scrutiny on Wiki, continue attacks in private, launch claims about "an avalanche of [my] supplicants" or to accuse me of "clear intent and malice", as you disregard the "WP pages that [I] think are relevant", that happen to be Wiki policies. I have never posted a private e-mail to Wiki, but in your case, I just may make an exception. That "problem with a diff in which [I] was mentioned" is not "rattling"; it should have gotten you blocked. Regarding "who is going to be given credit for [your] idea in the future when it eventually comes to pass": well, I don't know what idea you're referring to, nor do I much care, but that need for "credit" seems to be what has gotten you into this position. You "don't like the way [I] interact with [you] and think it harms the project"? What do you suppose others think? Just where did I interact with you to prompt the unfair and unsolicited attack on me? I guess that means you'll want me to recuse from cleaning up your FACs and promoting them. That will save me a lot of work; I hope Karanacs won't mind. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 07:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Fahey/O'Brien double homicide
I cited the source for this as John Conroy. Now I cited it officially. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WolfgangSheehy (talk • contribs) 21:31, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Your Valued Picture nominations was promoted

 * As you can see im helping close alot of nominations. Spongie555 (talk) 04:03, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I promoted the first one with 3 votes beacuse due to lack of participation we have to close 3 support vote nominations as promoted for example in this nomination. For some reason alot of nominations will get 3 support votes and never 4.
 * If a nomination has 3 support votes and no opposes then it will count as consensus. We are only promoting 3 support vote nominations till participation picks up. Spongie555 (talk) 05:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Exelon Pavilions
I think we have resolved all of the remaining issues from the FAC at Talk:Exelon_Pavilions. Hope things are better in real life and with the cup. Ruhrfisch <sub style="color:green;">&gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 19:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

ANI
Here's a new trophy for you, your very own ANI thread. <font style="color:#660000">~DC  <font color="#003300" face="Tahoma">We Can Work It Out 23:52, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Another VP for you

 * Also are you gonna withdraw this nomination, Valued picture candidates/Wrigley Building? It could pass. Spongie555 (talk) 03:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1993–94 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:04, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

More WikiCup issues
You are now bringing the Cup into disrepute to a rather ridiculous level. Please, please, please, heed my advice from the last thread, and the advice from others elsewhere. This edit is not acceptable, and neither is your constant incivility- those images were removed from your page by me after the discussion on the WikiCup talk page. You are the only person who feels you can claim points for them. Please, I do not want to have to kick you from the Cup, but there are now plenty of people calling for it. You are close to single-handedly destroying the Cup for good. I suppose this has to be a last warning- another toe out of line, and I think that will have to be it. Do not make me choose between you and the Cup, as you just can't win. J Milburn (talk) 16:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I am fully in accordance with J's comments. We do not want to have to kick you out, but you are taking it way too seriously; step back, smell the roses, and look at the Cup as a friendly competition, not a fight to the death. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 17:13, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 1999–2000 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2000–01 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2001–02 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2002–03 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2003–04 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2004–05 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2005–06 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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DYK for 2006–07 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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Your GA nomination of Planet Earth Live
The article Planet Earth Live you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Planet Earth Live for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Afghanistan ODI cricketers/archive1
Thanks for the heads up on Featured list candidates/1993 College Baseball All-America Team/archive1, I'll review it in the next couple of days: next time I have some free time! As a Wikipedian who is clearly interested in sporting lists, I wonder if you might be able to take the time to review Featured list candidates/List of Afghanistan ODI cricketers/archive1. Regards,  Harrias  <sup style="color:#009900;">talk 07:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * All the better, you can make sure I haven't used too many jargonny terms, and that it is understandable to those who don't follow cricket.  Harrias  <sup style="color:#009900;">talk 14:55, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Your canvassing for reviews
Tony: I have stated previously that I am not going to be reviewing further lists in that series. Please do not canvas me for reviews. Thanks. &mdash; KV5  •  Talk  •  12:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Be extremely careful that you are not falling afoul of the canvassing rules. If you are only leaving notes on the talk pages of people who supported a previous nomination, well, that's not a gooo thing. Karanacs (talk) 13:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Help!
Hi Tony,

I'm not the most experienced Wikipedia user, and I think I messed up the logos on the Michigan hockey page, while trying to add links for references for number of regular season championships, which I thusly left on the talk page?

Would you mind fixing my screwed up edits, as well as adding those links to the article?

Thanks!VictorsValiant09 (talk) 03:53, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jonas Mouton
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 2007–08 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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Good job
I've always appreciated your work Tony and Chicago Half Marathon is a short, but fine addition. Frankly it was a welcome sight after having to deal with so many copyright violations! SFB 22:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiCup 2010 September newsletter
We are half-way through our final round, entering the home straight. leads at the time of writing with 1180 points, immediately followed by with 1175 points. closely follows in third place with 1100 points. For those who are interested, data about the finalists has been compiled at WikiCup/History/2010/finalists, while a list of content submitted by all WikiCup contestants prior to this round has been compiled at WikiCup/History/2010/Submissions. As ever, anything contestants worry may not receive the necessary attention before the end of the round (such as outstanding GA or FA nominations) is welcome at WikiCup/Reviews, and please remember to continue offering reviews yourself where possible. As always, the judges are available to contact via email, IRC or their talk pages, and general discussion about the Cup is welcome on the WikiCup talk page.

Despite controversy, the WikiCup remains open. Signups for next year's competition are more than welcome, and suggestions for how next year's competition will work are appreciated at Wikipedia talk:WikiCup/Scoring. More general comments and discussions should be directed at the WikiCup talk page. One month remains in the 2010 WikiCup, after which we will know our champion. Good luck everyone! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn, Fox and The ed17 23:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)