User talk:Vanished user 342562/Archive 7

Comment from User:ManBuiltPrice

 * Note: The above header has been added and it was not in the original post. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:37, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

WELCOME TO WIKIPEDIA, WITH YOUR LAST EDIT, YOU ADDED AN UNHELPFUL TAG, INSTEAD OF ADDITIONAL CITATIONS. PLEASE ADD CITATIONS INSTEAD OF TAGS IN THE FUTURE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ManBuiltPrice (talk • contribs)

Requesting removal of unjustified warning over one time edit enforcing wikipedia policy
Hello, you have placed a warning about an edit war on my account. First of all, I was enforcing wikipedia policy, as the list is in clear violation of two wikipedia policies. Prior to my one time removal, I have explained this in full on the talk page. There even is a third violation in the list, being a link with "objectionable amounts of advertising" and you have put this back two times now. I request removal of the warning from my account, I don't believe it is justified over a one time removal of a list that violates wikipedia policy. Especially not because I have shown to be contructive on the talk page and brought up the issues already two days ago. Species8473 (talk) 16:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Points why the removal was justified, and your warning at my user page not:
I hope you can either remove the warning, or respond to these points in a swiftly matter.
 * The list was added ignoring priorly started discussion on the talk page (as only contribution by a completely new user).
 * The only source for the list was bad, as confirmed on the reliable sources noticeboard.
 * I had explained the issues with the list in detail on the talk page prior to the removal. You have not taken part in that discussion. Nor have you explained your re-adding of the list in a timely matter, as I requested.
 * You have re-added (parts of) the list three times now (123), which makes me wonder who is involved in an edit war here.

Awaiting your response, Species8473 (talk) 07:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Scripps National Spelling Bee
Hey, Terrier... FWIW, I've already rv'ed 3 instances of the "phonetic spelling" argument at this page and used a level 3 warning last go-around... I was considering taking it to the Noticeboard if he/she does it again. Amnewsboy (talk) 19:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyeditting help
You are listed as an editer who may be contacted for copyeditting help, so I am leaving this message here to ask if you could copyedit the page Montana class battleship. The article is currently list at Featured Article Candidates, and several people have suggested the article would benifit from a copyedit. Anything you can do to help would be apreciated. Thanks in advance. -- TomStar81 (Talk) 22:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Deleted article
There you go.  jj137  ( talk )  02:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Posting at the bottom
I hear you loud and clear. Please reply on my talk page. Unschool (talk) 02:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Radio Wikipedia
This is today's issue of Radio Wikipedia. StewieGriffin!  • Talk 10:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC) PS: May I suggest archiving?

Heads up
Heads up: I got three Did You Know? notices over a four-day period (May 30-June 2). I was a bit happy and wanted to share the news. :-) Ecoleetage (talk) 12:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Incredibly, another DYK just came in -- my second today and the fourth in four days! Woo woo! Ecoleetage (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Homeschooling
Hi! I appreciate your efforts on the homeschooling page. I was a bit puzzled by your decision to mave this list of homeschooling individuals under the heading of "supportive studies" rather than history. Please re-consider, ok? These historical figures certainly lend support to efforts in home schooling, but their historical roles seem to be far more important in the scheme of things. Besides, I would rather not let this section turn into a bargaining chip in the "school wars" that are so common, even on this page. These individuals and their reputations say a lot by themselves, and as I see it, represent an example of products of homeschooling (but not a justification of it). Thanks for considering this HomePolice (talk) 18:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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WikiPolitics Blog
I would like to ask you two things:
 * to start new opinion polls on other issues, about the United States (for example Obama's VP choice) and not
 * to invite more users to the blog in order to have more opinions

Kind regards. --Checco (talk) 07:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks
Hey D.T., just wanted to thank you for participating in my recent RFA... you said you offered to nominate me, I don't remember this (I would've been happy to have you as a co-nom... did you mean support?) anyhow, I left some templated thank-spam for you below. also, feel free to check out my in-depth RFA analysis and comment. keep up the diligence! xenocidic (talk) 13:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC) templated rfa thank-spam 

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2. Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).
 * Thank you for your support

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I really can't remember where! Sorry about that. I know you said you would support me here, but that's about it. xenocidic (talk) 14:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ahhh, gotcha. Well no matter, alls well that ends well =) xenocidic (talk) 14:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia e-mail
I sent you an email as an reply to the other e-mail. — ComputerGuy89010 0 Talk to meWhat I've done to help Wikipedia 04:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for the barnstar and the kind words. I was getting very depressed here, due to some nasty conflicts I stumbled upon. But several people encouraged me to give it another chance, so here I am. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh my, thank you (again) for the kind words. It is truly appreciated! Ecoleetage (talk) 20:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

How to add a language to the language box when the article is semi-protected?
Hello there, How are you doing? I finally finished working on the Ann Frank article in Farsi, but i have a problem. I wanna add that article's link (in Farsi) to the language box in other pages including the English page, however, that page is semi-protected and therefore, i can't edit it or add any information to it. Can you tell me what i should do? Thanks. :-) Dictionary-worm (talk) 18:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. As always you're so helful to me.Dictionary-worm (talk) 11:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:TLDR
I think that, if you are attempting to be humorous, you should know that I do not share your mood. You have systematically avoided discussing every substantive point that I have made, and even accused me of trying to draw attention from my own misdeeds. DT, WP:AGF is not boundless; there comes a point when one can reasonably assume that the other party is not acting in good faith, and I think that a neutral observer following our interaction over the past few weeks would likely wonder why it is that you have such trouble answering my questions. I have tried, as I explained before, tried to reconcile these matters with you amicably, for the sake of harmonious encounters in the future. You have done nothing to advance the discussion on your side except to ask me to repeat points already made and to cite policy without providing context. I ask you again to provide a fellow editor with the courtesy of trying to work out our differences, addressing the matters straight on.

My answers have gotten lengthy. You have made this necessary, by claiming that you either do not understand, or do not remember, or cannot find the questions that I have asked before. My length has been to more carefully develop points that you have indicated that you did not follow the first time.

Please quit avoiding my questions.Unschool (talk) 18:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Radio Wikipedia Daily Delivery
 Radio Wikipedia

Issue 6: Lawsuit

(Previous Issue) StewieGriffin!  • Talk 19:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Continuing the conversation.
Thank you for your reply. (Was that so hard?) I look forward to continuing and hopefully soon completing the conversation; my reply to your answers is on my talk page. Cheers. Unschool (talk) 20:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your last reply. It was good to have you actually talking.  I'm guessing that we're close to wrapping this up, but that's up to you.  My reply to your comments awaits. Unschool (talk) 21:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooops. Posted a bit ago and forgot to tell you. Unschool (talk) 21:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Questions answered. I may need to get off line soon, I'm not sure, so forgive me if I don't respond immediately. Unschool (talk) 22:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Question from anon
WHy did you delete my last edit about sheffield —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.159.145 (talk) 21:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

template:user NUS
Just wanted you to know that the edit you reverted was made inadvertently. I don't recall consciously blanking the page. Sorry, and thanks for the reversion :) Peace! Abhikmajumdar (talk) 22:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Refactoring
Well, I see you've succeeded in getting the subject changed, once again. But this time, I must confess, I'm actually interested in the side show. I've got a question or two for you on my talk page, on a new section. Unschool (talk) 23:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see my talk page. Unschool (talk) 23:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * DT had nothing to do with my comment.  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  23:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Signing off
I've got to go for now, may not be back for a few days. Hope to find a reply to the actual issues we were discussing upon my return.Unschool (talk) 00:10, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I've been gone for five days, and—oh, that's right, I need to leave messages at the bottom. Unschool (talk) 02:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Audio Barnstar
Your AudioBarnstar to Stewie Griffin is not awarded on "the sixth day of may", actually. It's the 7th of June today. Or am I missing something? Channel &reg;  00:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * In the UK it just became the seventh day of may about 46 minutes ago. I gave the barnstar on Eastern Standard Time.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 00:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops...I put May; I meant June. Thanks for pointing that out!  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 00:48, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Being a few hours out, okay, but a month... Tsss... English... ;-)  Channel &reg;   00:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for pointing that out. And also, that for signing my autograph book :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 00:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Category:Republican Wikipedians
You have created a category that was previously deleted at User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/August_2007 with strong consensus in a discussion on a whole range of similar political ideology categories. I suggest that you edit the useboxes to remove the category and then when it is empty it will be deleted. --Bduke (talk) 01:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't say there was a strong consensus at all. The category was kept in previous nominations, and it was also taken to deletion review where it was restored.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 01:08, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I expect this to go back to UCFD. Note the category has been protected by the administrator who deleted it. The only deletion review I see is tagged as procedural. I note also that none of the other political ideology categories has been restored and I see the consensus to remove similar categories to these as having grown since last August. --Bduke (talk) 01:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for you message. No I would not unsalt this category. It was deleted by CFD and can only be restored by a deletion review. Alex Bakharev (talk) 02:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see Deletion review/Log/2007 June 21 for the deletion review. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 14:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar. StewieGriffin!  • Talk Sign 11:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Issue 7
Hi. Here's todays issue.  Radio Wikipedia

Issue 7: Attention Please!

(Previous Issue) StewieGriffin!  • Talk Sign 15:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Blog Invite
Thanks for the Invite, Diligent Terrier. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to decline. (I'm not a huge fan of blogs, I've had bad experience with them.) But thank you anyway for the invite, again. I joined your Wikiproject - I am homeschooled, so I could probably make some contributions. Thanks again! (I saw your userboxes too - we think alike!) :-) -- Panic!out U've Been Discoed! 20:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I've had a couple of bad experiences. In the past, I wasn't very smart on a blog and got in BIG trouble with my parents, so I'm kind of banned from doing that kind of thing. Another time, I used to answer questions in the Religion section of Yahoo! Answers and got bashed, pretty much. I'd like to accept, but I don't think I should. (I'm sure the people on your blog would be nice, but I wouldn't do it because of the first reason.) But thanks very much anyway! I'm flattered at your request; have fun on the blog! -- Panic!out U've Been Discoed! 21:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, I completely understand. If your parents are ever ok with it, let me know and I'll invite you. :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks!-- Panic!out U've Been Discoed! 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:NPOV, WP:AGF, and WP:TROLL
I tried to assume good faith, but none was immediately apparent about the claim that current scientific thinking follows a non-neutral point of view. It's not even a matter of one person's point of view over another's. Science by definition cannot really include people's opinions. The featured article contained no-one's opinions. It merely stated what is generally regarded as fact.

As you may have noticed, intelligent design (which includes alternate theories on the earth's origin) was once a featured article. This article also does not violate any policies because it makes no attempt to claim that this is the only correct theory. It presents intelligent design as an alternative to general scientific consensus.

In particular, the first sentence of yesterday's featured article makes no attempt to persuade readers that other theories are wrong. It only enlightens them and leaves them to make their own decisions. Text that simply presents one view does not, in itself, violate WP:NPOV. Several other wiki-editors are in agreement on this point, especially as it pertains to the article and sentence in question. I found (and still find) it hard to believe that someone would argue with us on this point, and as such I came to the conclusion that you were trolling.

If you weren't trolling, then I obviously owe you an apology, and I'm sorry. In the future, you will find it helpful to read and understand relevant policies before trying to apply them. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (talk) 00:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Um, you probably do owe DT an apology (which was already given), for I highly doubt he was trolling. Also, I have learned the hard way the WP does not work by definitions. However, I am going to attempt to stay out of this discussion. (blip)  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  02:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, so I wasn't trolling, I just apparently don't have a clue about Wikipedia's policy according to you. Now I get it.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 23:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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The Blog Thing
About this... I just realized I can't create a Google Account because I don't have e-mail. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 03:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's up to you ... you can create an Gmail address, and join. You can still comment on posts anonymously.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

RfA
Even if I don't think I will ever be nominated administrator, I accept the nomination. Thanks for your support. --Checco (talk) 07:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, I don't have the time to write up the nomination right this minute, but I'll probably have you set in a few days. Great!  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 13:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Radio Wikipedia Staff
I have removed you from the staff of Radio Wikipedia. I don't want to seem nasty, but you aren't. If you would like to join, contribute by sending me a sound file. StewieGriffin!  • Talk Sign 18:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Just wondering why you removed your name? Just because I removed you? StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 21:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You removed my comment where I offered to deliver it, and acknowledged it here, so I assume you don't want me to help. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 15:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well yes you can help with delivery, after you discuss it! StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 20:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I'm no longer interested. I merely offered to help, and you removed my comment.  Wikipedia is a collaborative project; as long as you take actions as such, Radio Wikipedia will continue to be owned by you, while not allowing other editors such as myself to contribute.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:41, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's like: you can't go into a building and start work. You need to interview! Xenocidic (or secondary reporter) did three issues before he was staff. StewieGriffin!  &bull; Talk Sign 06:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And you just provided extra evidence for why there are people who aren't fans of Radio Wikipedia and are considering starting a deletion discussion on it, StewieGriffin!. You clearly have ownership issues here and you're creating a bureaucracy (you have to interview to be a staff person??).  Please take a bit to read WP:OWN.  Metros (talk) 16:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

...
Erm, what is this all about? And why am I contributor to it? Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 22:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Whoa! I have no idea how that got there.  That's the first time I've noticed your name on the list.  I'll remove it.  No idea how that got there.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I just sent you an email about this. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 23:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied. Nousernamesleft copper, not wood 23:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Adopt Me?
Hi DT, I was just wonder if you would be kind enough to adopt me? Although I've been on wiki for over a year I'm pretty new to proper contributions. Thanks »xytram« talk 12:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'd be happy to adopt you :) - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 13:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) - I've updated my userpage to reflect this. I'm a bit busy over the next week or so - but I'm usually lurking around on a daily basis! &#0149;xytram&#0149; talk pics  10:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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RE: Portal:Homeschooling
G7'd. Sorry, just haven't had enough time to maintain it. Feel free to create again later on. Thanks. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 21:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd sorta forgotten it existed. :)   weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  21:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

homeschooling
Dear Diligent Terrier:

I must say that I am confounded by many of the recent changes to the Wikipedia homeschool page. I initially went there looking for basic information, which I found lacking. I signed up to edit this article on good faith (I came to the page, as many other probably have, to get the basics, including examples of homeschooled individuals, which I added). However, this is supposed to be a simple reference article that gives facts, not an ideological opinions battlefield of some kind. This really turns me off wikipedia.

Snow555 (talk) 23:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Pattern
It's an interesting pattern you follow. 1) You avoid as long as possible discussing the issues that I bring up, then, 2) when I finally get you to start talking, 3) your friend, RC, chimes in with non-constructive comments, 4) I ask RC to not disrupt the conversation, 5) you cite me for some ostensible violation of Wikipedia policy (which still you have not explained, despite my request that you help me understand, and then 6) you drop the discussion without explanation.

DT, it would seem to me that good faith would require that, at the same time that you take me to task for violating policy, that you continue our discussion, unless you feel that I am not exercising good faith. I not only have been exercising good faith, in the face of your protracted forays into tangential issues, but I have also been exercising the patience of Job. Could you please now, if you are not going to answer my questions about policy, please pick up the discussion where it was before your friend injected this non sequitur into the conversation? Unschool (talk) 02:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB
Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 02:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Weissmann
Hi DT, A query on the user Weissmann is in the last few days he's gone a bit crazy creating lots of new articles (most of the CSD). I posted a caution on his user page at wikitime 08:38 and since this he has created 8 new articles which have all also been marked for CSD. Looking at his contrib it looks an almost inhuman amount of edits in a very short space of time. I'm unsure how to progress on this one. Can you advise? Thanks, xytram<span style="background:#def;border-left:1px solid #48C;border-right:1px solid #48C;padding:0px 1px 0px 1px"> talk pics  13:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't view deleted edits, but what I can tell you is that I do see a few helpful edits that he's made, so I would try to assume good faith for now, and see if he takes your warnings seriously. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 13:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I did notice, on his talk page, he has replied to a couple of the CSDs on there (rather than on the articles discussion). I've advised him that and will AGF. Thanks! <span style="background:#fff;border:1px solid #048;color:#048;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;padding:1px;">&#0149;xytram&#0149;<span style="background:#def;border-left:1px solid #48C;border-right:1px solid #48C;padding:0px 1px 0px 1px"> talk pics  14:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Hi. I am asking if you would adopt me. My former adoptor retired after only about one month of being my adoptor. (To see more about him, see User:WikiZorro) While I am saddened by the loss, I know I must find a new adoptor. So, to sum it up, would you be kind enough to adopt me?-- LAA Fan  21:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'd be happy to adopt you. :) - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you.-- LAA Fan  01:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

It has now been a week that I have waited for a response from you.
Of course, I'm sure you're not deliberately avoiding me; I'm just providing you with a reminder.Unschool (talk) 05:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that - do you want a response regarding the "Another distraction?" thread or the "What is an attack?" thread. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * While I would prefer to finish the original discussion, I did indicate that, for my own edification, I am interested in why you believe that I have violated policy in separating RC's non-sequitur, which added nothing—and succeeded once again in starting us down a different line of thought—from our original conversation. It seems to me that comments that have no bearing on the discussion should be able to be moved out of that discussion.  And don't just tell me the name of the policy.  I've read it, and I still don't see what you're seeing.  Quote me a line in policy that makes it clear that what I have done was not correct. Unschool (talk) 17:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Dead Horse
I assumed good faith, you were wrong to re add a warning that someone else had removed after a lengthly amount of time had passed, and he had tried to carry on a conversation with you about the warning. After 10+ days of no response, he was well within his rights to remove it himself. You were wrong to re add it. As stated in the talk page guidelines, anyone can remove anything they want from their pages, although archiving is prefered. Dont create wikidrama where there was none. You're beating a dead horse.  Qb | your 2 cents  12:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Co-Adoption?
Hey, I know this is really quick, but could there possibly be a co-adoption? I mainly want to get the chance to learn from two users; one an admin; the other a soon to be admin. I came across User:Piotrus one day and thought he would be a great co adoptor. He is not actively looking for adoptees, but I would like to ask him to be the other co-adoptor. I haven't asked him yet, and he could say no, but would this be okay? No personal offense should be taken; I just think working with him and you would be great. However, if he says no, I wouldn't want a co-adoption at the moment. So please give me an answer soon. Thanks. :)-- LAA Fan  19:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's perfectly fine with me. Co-adoption is legal.  Hope all is well.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, all is well. I asked him. I'll let you know the response.-- LAA Fan  19:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

New?
Well, I had six DYK honours in five days. I caught a copyright violation on a new article for The Blue Mountains (Elgar) -- a relatively obscure work, but I saw it as a major problem. The author who posted the article put in a hang-on notice, and I provided information from a British government web site showing the work was not public domain and was under copyright protection through 2029. Funny thing is that I got a complaint from another editor for being too fast on a speedy delete, but no thanks for that other catch! I also joined up the WikiProject for Burkina Faso to help out on their work. Otherwise, la vie est belle. And you? --Ecoleetage (talk) 19:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear you're still active and doing well. I'm doing just fine.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * All things considered, life is good. Thanks for thinking of me. --Ecoleetage (talk) 20:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like the previously red link in your first comment just turned blue. You think it's still a copyright violation?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As luck would have it, the article was resubmitted in a Wiki-friendly format. This was done in response to my previous CSD warning. However, I commended the writer for his work in fixing it (no sense in not praising good work): --Ecoleetage (talk) 20:11, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Alright, I didn't see the original so I didn't know what was copyrighted. You might also be interested in knowing that your AIV report was declined.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, the editor got a second final warning. Go figure! --Ecoleetage (talk) 20:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I really think he should have been blocked for having a vandalism only account. Giving multiple final warnings teaching newcomers not to take warnings seriously.  Thanks just my opinion, anyway.  Also, check your email.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, this is a funny old world here on Wikipedia. I sometimes half expect the Walrus and the Carpenter to show up. If anything, it keeps me on my toes. --Ecoleetage (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! I have been enjoying a lot of DYK attention lately. Those folks have been very generous to me! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's great! I'd like some tips on how to get all of those. :P I haven't gotten any. :( Check your email, too.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I know, I have to reply to your email. It's been a bit busy here. On the DYKs, it is just luck for me, nothing more. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 22:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

wrist
Broken no. Sprained yes. So I'll attempt to edit once in a while, although a lot of things happened today that kept me away.  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  02:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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Adoption
Piotrus said no, so it looks like it will just be you and me. I've decided not to have two adoptors, unless you have one you want.-- LAA Fan  20:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

newsletter
your joking right?  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  20:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * my wrist, although it might be better in a few days. I'll see what I can do, although days like today aren't gonna help any.

MFD
Your nominating my talk archive for deletion? Pedro : Chat  22:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That was a mistake; I thought the IP user that had archived your page had created the new archive. I withdrew the MfD nomination after noticing that.  Sorry for the inconvenience.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No probs - I've got some whacky browser issue going on again that keeps loggng me out. Sorry! Pedro : Chat  22:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou for signing my guestbook
Electrical <sup style="color:gold;background:Black">Vandilize Me 22:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

re:blog
I have read it a few times. But honestly, I'm not that versed in politics to make meaningful comments, I'll still poke my head in once in a while but probably not that often. I'm truly sorry, maybe recruit people from WikiProject Politics.

OH! And thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it! :-D! I'll see what I can do to contribute! -- penubag  (talk) 22:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! WikiProject Politics is a good place to recruit people.  Thanks for the suggestion. :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> - Pedro Has given you a surreal piece of lettuce. Lettuce indicates that Pedro is using a third rate web browser coupled with a not to hot ISP and lives in the middle of sodding nowhere, at some considerable distance from the telephone exchange. This results in his computer randomly logging him out after a while, and thus an IP archiving his talk page. Sorry for the confusion, and thanks! Pedro : Chat  22:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's very cute - thanks! - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, are you interested in politics at all? - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Only UK Politics - why - did you need input on something?. (BTW - you might like to archive your talk page!!!) Pedro : Chat  22:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I was wondering if you'd like to contribute to a blog - WikiPolitics. We could use a UK writer. :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 23:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Blog sites that "disable" the back option on browsers are an issue for me. Sorry. Pedro : Chat  23:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? I didn't mean to "disable" anything.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 23:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the tardiness in replying. The site does not alow use of the back button, at least on Internet Explorer - one has to manually close the window to exit. I find that to be an indication of an untrustworthy site. If their content is so poor as to force people to stay on the page I want no part of it. Sorry - it's of course no offence to your good self. Pedro : Chat  21:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I never meant for that to happen like that. I use Firefox and it doesn't appear that way.  Maybe it just opens in a new window in Internet Explorer?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not on IE7 - If I go to the site from WP I can't use the back button to return to WP - it refreshes back to the same page on the blog. I'm a bit rusty, but IIRC this is done with a little .js tweak to force people to stay on the page (maybe do-able in HTML as well actually - I'm sue their is some kind of  call). I hope you understand why I don't work on sites that disable local settings. Pedro :  Chat  21:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a bit strange because it doesn't display that way in Firefox. I search the code to see if I can find what does that.  Yes, I can completely understand why you. don't work on sites that disable local settings.  Would you reconsider contributing if we could find out how to disable that option?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I had a skite though the code and couldn't find it either- it's possible it's in the css but unlikely if I recall the limitations of style sheets - it may be an external .js file. I'll take a look, if I get some time, at helping you there but WP is my key leisure internet activity. BTW - time to archive this talk page dude! Pedro : Chat  21:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking through the code now... - Diligent Terrier (and friends) 22:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I found out that there are three ways to disable to back button and searched the code of the blog and didn't find any of them.  Are you sure that its just not opening in a new window?  It's also possible that there is something that's not loading in Internet Explorer, and you can't hit the back button because your browser is still trying to load the page.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * 100% certain - tested it on IE 6 & 7 with the same thing - clicking back is disabled. No major matter I guess, but it can be a concern as it's a classic trick of booby trapped sites. And please archive your talk !! Pedro : Chat  22:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

IP Comment
If you guys could stop giving me unessacary vandilism warnings, that would be fantastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.56.193.157 (talk) 23:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

For signing my guestbook....
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Reply to your "Conclusion" . ..
. . . now at my talk page. Unschool (talk) 03:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Your good faith is becoming very hard to detect . ..
DT, you write, Due to time availible, I was not able to read your entire reply. Whence comes this artificial time limitation? I have been waiting patiently for over a month for you to engage me in a serious discussion, but now you don't have time to read my reply? I don't care if you can't read it today or tomorrow, what difference is it if I have to wait a week, after how long I've been waiting?

But far more important than this is that it is growing increasingly difficult to conclude anything other than a lack of good faith on your part: You write, ''your little discussion with RC caught my attention, and I noticed where you said that debating is a good thing. That statement confirmed what I felt all along - that you are just looking for a fight.'' This, DT, is what is known as cherry picking. Did you not have time to read the next sentence? For the record, I wrote (with emphasis added): I think that debate is a good thing. It may be difficult while you're going through it, but if both parties participate in it sincerely, then when you are finished, you are likely to have reached a resolution which will make future relationships more peaceful. How does this come across as someone who is "looking for a fight"?

I think it is clear that you simply are doing everything you can to avoid direct discussion. You always have time to read my posts when you can find something that you claim violates Wikipolicy, but somehow, when I make salient points to which you have no reply, you "don't have time" to read them (for this is not the first time you've claimed ignorance of my posts to you because they were too long or you had insufficient time to read them. How convenient that must be.  But again, who has created these time limits?)

Your statement that I am looking for a fight is not what I would call uncivil (though I'm sure that some who share your personal philosophy of wikinteraction would call it "an attack"), but it is disingenuous. I have been bending over backwards, patiently waiting your belated replies, not growing heated over your attempts to distract from the issues at hand by going into other policy forays, and just generally being the patient sort of old man that I am. I do think that an apology for your accusation that I am "just looking for a fight" would be appropriate, but the manners with which you were raised are likely different than the manners with which I was raised. I was taught never to turn my back on someone who was talking to me, you obviously were not. I was taught that the purpose of rules and laws was to stop bad people from doing bad things, not simply to be used in a game of "Gotcha!" Unschool (talk) 20:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You've now said some things that are completely misleading ... but you know what - I'm done with taking your bait. Your arguments have already taken enough of my time, and as I have said: I stand by my initial comments, my warnings on your failure to follow the civility principle, the rollback policy and the Refactoring talk pages guidelines, and my conclusion statements.  If you feel I have made an error, please take your discussion to the administrators' noticeboard or WP:AN/I.  Thank you. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)


 * What have I said that was misleading? It was you who not only misled, but deliberately twisted, by taking my comment about trying to reach peaceful accord and turning into a slander accusing me of wanting to pick a fight.  Just how does this statement of mine:


 * I think that debate is a good thing. It may be difficult while you're going through it, but if both parties participate in it sincerely, then when you are finished, you are likely to have reached a resolution which will make future relationships more peaceful


 * "confirm" (your words) this statement of yours?:


 * you [Unschool] are just looking for a fight


 * I know why you haven't and won't answer this. Because you can't—placed side by side in their proper context, the absurdity of your statement is patently obvious.  Look, I both acknowledged the reasonableness of your perception of incivility on the original edit summary and apologized for it over a week ago, (now, of course, you will seize upon this as proof of your correctness) but that was never even the issue over which I wished to engage in discussion.  I took issue with your association of either this edit summary or this one as being even remotely comparable to a personal attack, and I believe your position remains an absurdity.  I have acknowledged my errors more than once in this discussion, but you appear to remain incapable of recognizing even the possibility that anyone could disagree with your characterization of my comments.  So is it safe to assume that you regard your judgment in matters of Wikipedia policy to be perfect?  Unschool (talk) 00:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Can we please just drop the stick?  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  02:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ I have had it with arguing over nonsense with an editor that has apparently much more time than I do.  Unschool does not show any signs of giving up his arguments including misleading information and this discussion is still not getting anywhere.  I will not be spending any more time on this subject; Unschool should not expect a reply if he chooses to continue.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Once again you repeat your defamatory comments about my "misleading" comments without offering one shred of evidence; I called you on it in my most recent post, and yet you have not and cannot answer it, because the charge is false. You accuse me of personal attacks and then you say such lies about me?  I will not call this an attack, because I think you are just reacting emotionally and not thinking clearly, so I assume no attack was intended.  It is, however, obviously very uncivil to make such false statements.


 * And what a laugh, about not having enough time for this. Since the beginning of the year, I have averaged 357 edits a month on Wikipedia, and you have averaged 953!  You're the one who lives on Wikipedia, not I.  You've been spending plenty enough time on this when you want to, but when you're being confronted with someone who actually doesn't get intimidated by your bullying you turn around and run.


 * You call this nonsense? Nonsense can be refuted with logic.  Your lack of refutation to my points goes far towards establishing the saliency of my arguments, and proves the lack of foundation in yours. Unschool (talk) 00:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * (reduce indent) As an uninvolved party, I am going to suggest that both of you refrain from making changes to each others talk pages for a couple of days and let the heat die down. This discussion is a waste of time, and the many breaches of policy are looking like getting both of you blocked. To both parties, keep it cool. Five Years 03:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (Grunt) I no longer have to be the voice of reason.  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  04:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, Five Years. Once again, Unschool, WP:AN/I is the place to go if you have a problem with me.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 15:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Vero Beach Vandalism
So any further edits to this page is considered vandalism? How is adding that a punk rock band if from Vero Beach vandalism (especially when it is true)? Do I need sources?

1 2 3 4

thanks --1sneakers6 (talk) 05:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

or you can ignore me...that's cool too. --1sneakers6 (talk) 00:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Peer review for Martin Luther King, Jr.
Hi, I saw on the volunteers list that you are interested in American history and willing to help with peer reviews. If you have time, could you please look over this article and comment in its peer review? I've put a lot of work into sourcing it, but I know that it needs some other fixes before it's ready for GA or FA. I've been staring it at for eight days now, so some fresh eyes would be great. Thanks, GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:41, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Florentino floro revised user page
Hi, thanks again for your precious times in adopting me. I was inspired to study how to create a good user page, by viewing many administrators' pages. I want it to be succinct and terse, now, just 51 kilobytes. Let me stress, that my philosophy in Wikipedia, is that it is gold and it deserves nothing less than a true user page, plus true and honest contributions. I usually devote 10 hours, daily here, and I don't want or need to edit other edits, since my main work and belief, is to add most NOTABLE edits, from global events and Philippines, inter alia. I still need to revise my page, since I have to add more on quotes and about me. I read the rules, and I state that Wikipedia will love my page and stay here. I cannot really write my page with a shorter one, since my biography and all about me, had been tersely condensed, here to the best of my ability. If anyone would like to amend or edit it, please do ask me and/or my now diligent adopting parent first.
 * IN TIME, I know that my story, my bio and my stay here will be "inspiration" not only to many users, editors and admins here, but I am certain that my contributions, my bio and my TRUTH, will be shared, loved and remembered or used in many schools, law journals, inter alia, using Wikipedia as source, as even kids will never forget me. I will never forget you and your kind diligence.--Florentino floro (talk) 12:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Retirement again
I'm not leaving forever, but I am leaving for some good time. I may be back on as early as August (note I said may). And no, I haven't been following the blog. I'll probably catch myself up when I come back nearly part time on Wikipedia. Cheers! -Preceding signed comment by Basketball110

Unblocking
I'm back... elisa talk. 14:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiPolitics Reply
Definitely! ---G.T.N. (talk) 16:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please enable email on your account and drop me an email. :) - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 16:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Your CSD U1 requests
Done. - Penwhale &#124; Blast him / Follow his steps 16:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 16:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hangar 9 Sundowner
Hey DT, why did you add a prod and an AFD to this article within an hour of each other? Usually one or the other, I rarely see both added, especially by the same editor. As you know I removed the prod to let the afd run, I was just trying to follow your logic there. Fill me in? Keeper  |   76   |   Disclaimer  14:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, User:Xenocidic had basically declined the speedy (see his talk page and the article's talk) but didn't remove the speedy tag. I prod nominated it at first thinking that I was going to withdraw the AfD, because it wouldn't have been spam if it was cleaned up a little bit.  Hope that answers your question, and I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.  Cheers!  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries. It all works out in the end everytime :-)  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * (ec - damn you keep) well i didn't really decline the speedy, just kindof recused myself and also tried to determine the validity of the "hangon" tag. But yea, all 3 deletion processes was a little overkill (but still gave me a chuckle ;>). <font face="Verdana">xenocidic (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I kind of got that feeling. :) I was debating with myself over whether to clean up the article and withdraw the nom (which would probably disappoint everyone who supported deletion) or to just let the AfD run.  Right now, I'm not sure to do since it's been cleaned up and looks much better.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * And that hang on tag rationale didn't make much sense to me at all. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, it wasn't a proper hangon rationale, but in the spirit of not being bitey, I wanted to draw out from the creator whether the article could possible satisfy inclusion guidelines. <font face="Verdana">xenocidic (talk) 17:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (damn e/c xeno!) I would just let the AFD run at this point. The community will get it right, we usually do.  And when we don't, we have WP:DRV.  No need to do anything more really at this point.  Cheers,   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * (e/c with Keeper) Yep, that completely made sense to me, and I originally had doubts on whether the article could be speedy deleted as spam, which is why I took it to AfD. But that's where I saw that others supported speedy deletion, so I notified an admin.  What should I do now?  The article has been cleaned up and no longer looks like spam.  The question is over notability.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Consider working with the creator to add citations. I've asked him to add sources from the magazines he says this product is discussed in. <font face="Verdana">xenocidic (talk) 18:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. I'll withdraw the AfD only if I think the article has gotten good enough and it is notable enough.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Summer
What was the smiley for. Thanks anyway. ' Chubb ' enna  itor  17:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've just seen you around everywhere lately and figured I'd give you a smile. :) Hope it cheered up your day!  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Journeyman
Yes, I have been that for a while -- I never got around to changing the Userbox. Thanks for the kind words! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Have you been reading the blog?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have. Good stuff, too. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The comment
The comment was trying to help convince users for keep. Because admins who close it look at the reasons, I am adding my comments and reasons for keep. I was that user, and I believe without the AWC I wouldn't have found my way to where I am right now. This as your first real experience as my adoptor, so on a lighter note, cheers.-- LAA Fan  21:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I actually meant the comment by your former adopter that you added. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The comment was, at least what I felt, a good reason. I just gave Wikizorro for the comment.-- LAA Fan  22:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC) P.S. How do you make Wikiproject Space? When my other wikiproject was made (Chicago Cubs), RyRy5 just gave me the link to start the page. Can you help? I would like to Solely found a Wikiproject.-- LAA  Fan  22:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * WikiProjects are in the Wikipedia space. I've started two before.  What WikiProject do you want to start?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

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need help on mKR
I'm having one hell of time figuring out what's happening here. (1)Before I ever got to Wikipedia, I had spent a couple of days interacting with someone at Wiktionary. So I knew basic editing, and I thought I understood that everyone contributed to Wikipedia. (2)So I put together a short writeup on mKR (programming language) ((I had seen the MKR name conflict, and I had seen, I think it was Unicon (programming language), and I thought I was doing everything right. (3)Wrong!!! mKR (programming language) was deleted within 60 seconds!!! From then until I started working with NoDepositNoReturn, I could hardly think straight. A couple of guys were constantly trying to delete mKR. My only supporters were NoDepositNoReturn, and the guy I had "met" at Wiktionary. (4)For a couple of days, I was "left alone" with NoDepositNoReturn, and was following his advice. (5)Then he "left", and you came on board and deleted everything that NoDepositNoReturn told me to add. (6)aside: While you were doing that, I was on the road from my home to Lake Tahoe -- I am officially "on vacation" now. (7)Back to the main thread -- NoDepositNoReturn might be a subject-expert ??? He remarked at one point that he did not work for Wikipedia. Perhaps now, you can understand why I am feeling so frustrated. I'm told very little about this process which has been unleashed on me. I get direct opposite advice from different people who are assigned/volunteered/??? to "help" me.
 * Please, please, talk to me. Help me understand what is happening. Rhmccullough (talk) 13:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I stopped at your User page on the way back here. It definitely qualifies as "cool". It put a smile on my face. Rhmccullough (talk) 14:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I like your attitude towards editing. Rhmccullough (talk) 15:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I appended a new sentence to the Lead -- it sets the stage for the rest of the article. Let me know what you think. Rhmccullough (talk) 15:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. I put a lot of new comments on mKR discussion since your last entry. Rhmccullough (talk) 15:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Question
I have a question about the assessment scale. I have been working on an article, Homer's Odyssey, and would like to nominate it for GA after I've worked on it some more. However, it's only ranked at Start Class because it was rated a long time ago. My question is, can I go straight to GA, or does it have to be passed as B Class before it can go for GA?-- LAA Fan  14:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can take it straight to a GA nomination. I would suggest requesting assessment by a WikiProject before nominating for GA status, just to make sure that it is currently at least a B-class article.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Goodbye
I saw that you are officially leaving Wikipedia. Because I have no Wikipedia Email, I'll say it here. I'll go find a new adoptor. I'm kind of afraid, though, I think I am the Wikipedian Merchant of Death. Anyway, thanks for all of the kindness and help. Have a nice life.-- LAA Fan  21:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'll probably come on every couple of days just to check my talk page and see what's up, and my adoptees are pretty much my top priority, so unless you need someone that's on every day, I think I'll still be able to help you. Hopefully, I can help you get this new WikiProject started, also.  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want someone who will be on every day, I'll do it.  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  22:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
Okay. I didn't go to find a new adoptor, so that is fine if you still want to put up with me. :) Thanks for the advice on GA. As for the Wikiproject, I haven't exactly come up with a Wikiproject. I just want to know how to start one. I could go with another baseball project, but I decided I want to make something new. I'll let you know when I've decided what the Wikiproject will be.-- LAA Fan  21:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Just a suggestion, but before taking the article for a GA nomination, I would suggest having a relevant WikiProject member informally review it and reassess it to B-class if they think it has reached that level, and then have it Peer reviewed. That way you'll get some ideas from some other people if you're doing a lot of the work. :-)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, i'll do that. I asked for someone to assess it again on the talk page of the Wikiproject already.-- LAA  Fan  22:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

David_Davis_for_Freedom_campaign
Hi, you identify yourself as a non-admin and you closed the deletion debate for David_Davis_for_Freedom_campaign inside 24 hours. Have you objections to me putting your decision up for review?--91.104.20.23 (talk) 22:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can re-nominate the article if you have grounds for doing so. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Page deletion
I don't understand. Why did you tell me to insert or whatever on the page for seedy deletion. So the Q500 page is safe?

mKR (programming language)
Do you have any knowledge of the subject matter? Rhmccullough does. How about cutting him a little slack? Friday (talk) 17:22, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

DT, I want to discuss a couple of changes. Are you still here? Rhmccullough (talk) 20:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
I appreciate the help you've shown that new user re. his contributions on the subject of radio control. He's contributing in earnest and I'd hate to scare him off. Many, many thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

My Username
Honest opinion here, do you think I should change my username to LAAFan? It is what users call me, and writing out my full name gets tedious. Reply back soon.-- LAA Fan  15:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Since you've asked for me to be honest, I'll tell you that the first time I ever saw your username, which was when you edited a page on my watchlist, I struck me as an awfully long username. Looks like I'm a bit late to reply to this as you just changed it, but I think it's a fine idea, but remember you could have a space in between "LAA" and "Fan".  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
I've thought about this for some time now, and I do need someone who will be on Wikipedia every day, for whatever little thing I might not know. However, I found that you are extremely helpful when you are on Wikipedia, so I am requesting a co-adoption between you and RC (I forgot what the entire username. The user who offered it on your talk page). -- LAA Fan  16:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be me.  RC-0722 361.0/ 1  16:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Sorry to see you go...
D.T.- You have always been a great user to the project and have been very kind and civil. You were a great vandal fighter and article writer. Good luck with your future adventures.

Sincerely, Red Thunder  19:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Retirement
It's unfortunate you had to leave. We didn't talk much but you seemed like a good contributor (yes, very descriptive). Well, I wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide to spent your free time on now :)   jj137   ( talk )  02:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Hangar 9 Sundowner
You can make the appropriate merge/redirect is you want it, but I've went and re-read the AfD twice over, and I'm not seeing another possibility besides delete. Only maybe one person felt like keeping it, and while most of the deletes were in the beginning when the article was at its worst, I'm uncomfortable restoring it myself. Wizardman 23:13, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

take some more pics, in ur retirement!
As part of a drive in wp:NRHP to tally illustrations for articles about National Historic Landmark sites, i notice again, a pic of urs that i had admired before, which we adopted for Middleton Place. If you have any time in ur retirement to take more pics, please consider filling in any of the empty spaces in List of NHLs in SC, List of NHLs in CO, List of NHLs in NC, List of NHLs in FL or in any other of the U.S. states. Browse List of NHLs by state to see what's needed. Anyhow, thanks for the one pic, at least! cheers, doncram (talk) 03:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

on this AFD
It's likely there will be a deletion review regarding Articles for deletion/MKR (programming language) (2nd nomination). I noticed you were involved in closing Articles for deletion/MKR (programming language) during which you said (correctly) that a COI isn't a reason to delete. But you also implied the article was about something notable, which I don't see at all. Why do you think this? Also, your pages claim you're retired, but it doesn't look like you are. Friday (talk) 14:22, 30 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I've been officially retired from active editing since June 22, even though I've made a few edits since then (oops!); so I'm only online really now to check in with my adoptees, although I may make some mainspace edits at some point in time when I'm reading Wikipedia for research. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 19:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)