User talk:Voorts/Archive 1

howdy
say stuff here. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Signature
Hi voorts. Could you change your signature? It drops a reference at the bottom of every talk page you comment on. I don't think tags are meant to be in signatures. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 20:10, 27 April 2023 (UTC)


 * already done. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:22, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Sandy Galef
Per your request to be notified, I've removed under construction from Sandy Galef. In the future try to remember to remove it. Thanks :) ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 00:26, 1 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I didn't remove it because it's my understanding that under construction should only be removed if there are no edits for several days, and that other users should change it to in use when they're making edits. My last edit to the article was one day ago, so I think the tag should stay up for at least a couple of more days. Please correct me if I'm misusing the tag, though. voorts (talk/contributions) 00:34, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The purpose of the template, along with in use is to mark pages while they are actually being edited (or going to be edited), to prevent edit conflicts. While under construction does say otherwise, keeping the template on the page for too long can discourage other editors, and isn't needed. Hope I explained that well. If you plan to make more edits, and you'd like to add the template again, feel free to go ahead and do so. ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 00:40, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to explain. Just to clarify, what's "too long" in the context of under construction? voorts (talk/contributions) 00:42, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * There isn't really a set time (aside from "several days" per the template), but if you have finished editing, or don't plan on editing for a couple of days, there is no reason to leave the template on the page. ~ Eejit43 ( talk ) 00:53, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

GOCE Requests page
Hi Voorts, just a small request here; when you complete a copy-edit, please use Done rather than Completed; the page archiving bot only responds to the former template and won't archive requests marked with the latter. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  00:06, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Baffle gab1978 Will do! voorts (talk/contributions) 00:34, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: Biographies request for comment
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Roanoke College page
Hi! Thanks so much for your question on the request we posted to the Talk:Roanoke College board. We wanted to make sure to flag our full response to you:

''Thanks for your question! Our request had two parts:

''1). Change the college logo shown on the page from the old imagery to the new imagery. The old imagery currently appears at the bottom of the gray box on the righthand side of the page immediately under the line labeled "Website." The new imagery can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College Branding.”

2). Change the image of our college president from a photo of our past president to a photo of our current president. The photo of our past president currently appears on the page in the image labeled: "11th President of Roanoke College, Michael Maxey." The photo of our current president can be found on Wikipedia Commons under the title: “Roanoke College President Frank Shushok Jr.”  Roanoke College Communications (talk) 16:37, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Please follow the edit request process:
 * "Sometimes, responding editors may request further information, and disable the template by changing the parameter to 'yes' — e.g. . Feel free to re-enable the template when the additional information has been provided or additional consensus has been obtained by changing the 'yes' in the template to 'no'. If you're unable to do this, you can simply respond on the talk page. If you do not receive a response in a day or two, then submit a new edit request."
 * Please note that there is a backlog of conflict of interest edit requests and that an editor may fulfill your request in due course. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:12, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment
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Leonard Schoonmaker
Hi. I removed the PROD you placed on this article. The amount of prose in the Olympedia profile, and the breadth and depth of it, suggests to me that newspaper archives and the like will probably have been used to compile it. It would surprise me if the article could not be developed to include enough sources to meet BASIC at least. I certainly don’t think that with that prose we’re looking at a PROD candidate here. I doubt I’ll have time to work on it very much myself, although I will try to remember to add some of the details tomorrow if I get the chance. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * e2a for example, this obit from the NYT. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:43, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking the time to review the PROD. I don't think I'll have time to add anything to the article myself. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:14, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Watching David Lynch cook quinoa
Happened upon your user page, and am currently watching David Lynch cook quinoa. I'll tell you how it goes. Aiue (talk) 21:29, 20 May 2023 (UTC)


 * the recipe is legit, by the way. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * is it? do you know from experience? if so, how fresh was the water you used? Aiue (talk) 21:35, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * hm. I can't tell if this was the best or worst 20 minutes I've spent on YouTube. I went into it fully expecting it to be an average cooking video, as I had no idea of who David Lynch is. the recipe also seems incredibly salty, if liquid amino acid tastes like soy sauce. Aiue (talk) 21:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You should watch some Lynch ASAP. I recommend starting with Blue Velvet or Twin Peaks if you're looking for a show to watch. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Best closure ever
Your closing statement in the Putin arrest warrant article is the most considered and disciplined closure of any discussion I have witnessed. Thank you. —Michael Z. 03:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you! voorts (talk/contributions) 03:29, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I completely agree with here, this article was on my watchlist and I popped in to see what all the ruckus was about, incredibly formed judgement on your part. Zorblin (talk) 16:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind remarks. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors June 2023 Newsletter
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Speedy deletion contested: Global business interests of Pat Robertson
Hello Voorts. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Global business interests of Pat Robertson, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not implausible enough for R3. Use redirects for discussion instead. Thank you. BangJan1999 22:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of October 1 (film)
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Chief mousers
Hello voorts. A few days ago, you took on the GA review for Sybil (cat); today, I've nominated her predecessor-but-one, Wilberforce (cat) for GA. It's almost exactly the same length and on a very similar subject, so if you'd like to review it, you can. If you don't want to, there is, of course, no obligation at all. Cheers, Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Tim O'Doherty I might have time. I'll take a look. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Cheers. Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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Peter II (cat)
Sorry to bother you again, voorts, about my GANs; this is the last time, I promise. I've nominated Peter III's predecessor for GA. It's quite a bit shorter than the last four, but he was only 8 months old when he died, and from the sources available, I believe that I have produced the best product I can. Again, if you're not interested or don't have the time, don't worry at all. Someone else will pick it up. Cheers, Tim O&#39;Doherty (talk) 20:03, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll take a look. I have a couple of pending GANs as well; would you mind reviewing one? voorts (talk/contributions) 14:01, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of October 1 (film)
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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Todd Lincoln
Just wanted to let you know that I took care of those three "cites needed" for this DYK. Thanks for looking in on it and doing the review - I think it's now all good to go at this point? Shearonink (talk) 14:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Looks good. I gave the DYK a green tick. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Looks like you might be having trouble with getting it "green ticked"? You just need to update the status from ? to y. The upper info stuff at the top of the template/page is only for DYK Volunteers to edit. Shearonink (talk) 02:39, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Good to know. Thank you. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:40, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It's been so long since I've submitted something for DYK, I'm kind of bumbling around myself. If it's alright I could ask one of the DYK coordinators to look in on this DYK - that is, if you don't mind. Shearonink (talk) 03:02, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't mind at all. It's my first review and would appreciate any feedback. I probably should have done that myself to begin with. voorts (talk/contributions) 03:08, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I just asked leekycauldron on their talk page to look in on it. I'm sure everything is fine. Shearonink (talk) 03:17, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Since leekycauldron hadn't gotten back to me I asked Kusma to look in on the RTL-DYK to make sure everything was ok/fine. It's good to go, the bot just moved it to Template talk:Did you know/Approved where it can be found at Template talk:Did you know/Approved. Thanks for everything, Shearonink (talk) 17:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shearonink Thank you as well! voorts (talk/contributions) 18:29, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

small update:
 * I should have done this in the first place but I have added an image to the RTL/DYK? If you could take another look at the DYK and review the image I have added to the Nom - yes or no (freely licensed/used in article/clear at 100px/suitable for the Main Page) – that would be helpful. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 04:23, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually I decided that each present hook should have an image so I have added two images to the DYK Nom. If you could check them both out on the image parameters that would be helpful. If you're too busy I can always ask other editors, just has to be someone other than the DYK nominator (myself). Thx, Shearonink (talk) 20:00, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ voorts (talk/contributions) 21:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Wagner
What you said about the first sentence is simply not correct: the first sentence has no places of birth and death, no age, no link to his list of works. Please consider rephrasing. - To me, the little box frees the first sentence from clutter, and makes the facts available in a predictable position where expected, for those who need them. (Try to hunt for where he died, for example.) But I will not participate in the discussion. The principal editor doesn't like a box, and I'm ready to please him. (I said so right above the RfC.) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Please keep this discussion on the article talk page. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 12:22, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd hate to correct and lecture you on the article talk page. - I will not participate in the discussion, still feeling misunderstood on that talk, even ten years later. - Up to you to reconsider what you wrote, and rephrase, or not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:58, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I prefer being told when I'm wrong (especially when the person doing so is being polite), but I understand your reticence to get involved in the conversation there. I will correct my statement. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:45, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

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About canvassing
WP:CANVASS says "The audience must not be selected on the basis of their opinions" such as "editors who previously supported [keeping] an article" (which would certainly include a PROD remover) and "do not send messages to users who have asked not to receive them".

Do not put messages on my talk page about AfDs, or send me echo notications from AfDs, just because I removed a PROD from an article that appeared on the alerts list. I check the deletion sorting list regularly, and do not need notifications from you about AfDs on that list of PRODs that I removed. I have made it repeatedly clear on past occasions that I do not want messages or notifications that make it look as though I have been canvassed. James500 (talk) 06:20, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * AGF. I gave you a ping and posted to your talk page as a courtesy because you reversed my PROD. Additionally, I've never interacted with you on WP and you have nothing at the top of your talk page indicating that nobody should ever post on your talk about AfDs. How am I supposed to know what you've done on past occasions? All in all, this is a needlessly aggressive overreaction to what was quite obviously a courtesy ping and post.


 * voorts (talk/contributions) 12:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Built to Spill Plays the Songs of Daniel Johnston
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Your GA nomination of Built to Spill Plays the Songs of Daniel Johnston
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Your draft
Excellent work. I'll approve it, but I've got to get rid of the pesky standing in the way. I've put in the proper request, and now we wait. By the way, you can create articles directly, no need for AfC submission. 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  06:11, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Done! It's live. Please add categories. 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  07:04, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I know I can create articles without AfC, I'd just never done it before and assumed it would go from draft to published quickly (which I guess it did!); I kinda blew past the screen where it told me that it might take four months. I've requested to be an AfC participant so I can help reduce the backlog. voorts (talk/contributions) 12:15, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This actually happened to me as well. I submitted Martyrs of Campo di Marte to AfC despite not having to. Well, you were kinda lucky that I happened to pick up that draft so quickly. Next time, simply move the page from draftspace to mainspace yourself. Happy editing! 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  12:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Content Review Medal of Merit

 * Thank you so much! You've been great to work with. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for October 1 (film)
—Kusma (talk) 12:02, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Determination of consensus
Regarding [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:In_the_news&diff=prev&oldid=1165639978 this comment]: many articles have few watchers, and their associated WikiProject talk pages aren't actively watched either, so a lot of discussions don't get a lot of participation, and thus are decided by whatever set of people happen to comment at the time. Even the outcomes for article for deletion discussions are subject to the whims of whoever happened to be active that week. Unfortunately, In the News is not unique in this way. isaacl (talk) 13:47, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Yes, but closers at AfD, etc., should ostensibly be discarding arguments that don't reflect policy, guidelines, or well-established, written consensus (as opposed to silent norms). From the discussion, I'm learning that policy, guidelines, and consensus apparently don't really exist at ITN. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:05, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Many closers refer to for guidance on determining consensus in discussions, which allows for discounting arguments that are counter to policy, but not guidelines. This follows English Wikipedia tradition that guidance is based on the outcomes of content discussions and that consensus can change, rather than guidelines prescribe results. For better or worse, this means the results of many discussions will vary depending on the arguments of the current set of participants. isaacl (talk) 23:22, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Built to Spill Plays the Songs of Daniel Johnston
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 22 July 2023 (UTC)